IT DRIPS! - exploring the TC Electronic Combo Deluxe 65 - and obvious Comparisons to the UA Dream 65

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Жыл бұрын

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Пікірлер: 388
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud Жыл бұрын
Absolutely nailed it with the description of the UA being a more pleasant, post processed studio sound, while TC is exactly what I'd expect to hear coming out of the real amp. That was my reaction to other Ampworx pedals I got to try - "yup, sounds like standing in front of that amp" BYOSF; bring your own studio finessing
@mantashaft
@mantashaft Жыл бұрын
Exactly... I find these pedals sound great recorded... but what happens live? I'm assuming bar gigs would be fine... but would it make me feel the way a tube amp sounds right in front of me in a quiet environment. I'm hoping it's good b/c the prices for these are great.
@elwrongo
@elwrongo Жыл бұрын
yep, I think the TC sounds almost like a solid state amp, the UA sounds tubey
@stephenthegimp3256
@stephenthegimp3256 Жыл бұрын
funny id say its the other way round
@neilwarden
@neilwarden 11 ай бұрын
@@elwrongo My old Tech 21 Trademark 60 sounds way better. I did initially like the TC but when I started AB ing it, it fell flat. The TC does have a sweet spot but once you start increasing the gain it's horrible. Was expecting good things but to be honest I'd rather have a Joyo American Sound with pedals.
@quiksilver78
@quiksilver78 11 ай бұрын
@@neilwardenI'm wrestling with the same, here. Joyo American Sound about 30eur and this TC Electronic pedal 160eur - for the price difference, I am not sure it is worth keeping the TC pedal; it is a fine pedal but I still enjoy the Joyo more. The conundrum right now is: do I return the pedal or do I wait until - hopefully - TC releases a firmware update to address the lack of headroom in this pedal?
@donoteatglass
@donoteatglass Жыл бұрын
"Does it drip?" is the new "Will it chug"
@PG-ex3kl
@PG-ex3kl Жыл бұрын
We need to get a timeline on which came first though…. I have no idea
@ivanrodriguez8644
@ivanrodriguez8644 Жыл бұрын
I bet "the Drip" came first than the "the Chug"
@SkeeterDigs
@SkeeterDigs Жыл бұрын
Is the new?
@GregStraub42
@GregStraub42 Жыл бұрын
If it doesn't chug and drip then I don't want it.
@rosshowell7497
@rosshowell7497 Жыл бұрын
The crossover we deserve.
@phogue1
@phogue1 Жыл бұрын
It may not be as pristine as the UA, but at that price, it’s a winner. That apostrophe in the wrong place, though, is killing me.
@18-tube-wattamp64
@18-tube-wattamp64 Жыл бұрын
Xacto knife!
@tmead07
@tmead07 Жыл бұрын
It’s a sixty-five footer. Big as a house!
@Bratosch
@Bratosch Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ I didn't notice, that seriously makes it look fake and/or cheap
@Christian6.1803
@Christian6.1803 Жыл бұрын
@@tmead07 underrated comment
@Christian6.1803
@Christian6.1803 Жыл бұрын
ESL in the design studio.
@linussonearth
@linussonearth Жыл бұрын
great video man. you keep getting better and better. thanks for keeping it up.
@bmag4368
@bmag4368 Жыл бұрын
That hizumitas into the dream was great for both guitars. Also I appreciate your drip quest despite personally not caring about the drip. Any drip quest videos I always watch!
@jasonkesser
@jasonkesser Жыл бұрын
Great job Ryan - I really appreciate this video. Been sitting with a true spring in my cart for ever trying to not buy the surfy bear, then trying to true spring by buying the UA Dream 65, a 100 videos later didn’t do it. Now I know I can get the TC and get a good reverb, with a little bit of extra. Freaking awesome. You’re the man. What a blast, cheers broksy
@dustydamrel1053
@dustydamrel1053 4 ай бұрын
Great videos. I appreciate how you always test reverb pedals for the surfy sound. Most of everyone else’s videos are ambient noise.
@MYGAS21
@MYGAS21 Жыл бұрын
The testing cab sims with FUZZ tip was gold .... I always have a problem evaluating them. I'll definitely try it next time. THANX!
@charlie-obrien
@charlie-obrien Жыл бұрын
I just recently got my '68 Custom Deluxe Reverb amp and it is like a dream come true. My only problem when I chose that one was that I was also looking at a '65 DRRI and having to choose was making me a little nuts. Now with this TC Electronic Combo Deluxe '65 I can enjoy a little more of both the worlds I wanted to explore. BTW, I agree that the headphone jack is a major Plus. Great demo! Great pedal! and thanks to the Patreons for paying the freight that got this review done. When I do order, I'll be sure to go to Sweetwater through your link.
@NateJamesAcoustic
@NateJamesAcoustic Ай бұрын
This is an awesome review dude. I’m still watching and you’ve already answered all of my questions. Until now I really haven’t considered an amp-in-a-box pedal as a real option. But hearing these side by side I totally have my eye on that tc electronics version.
@GuitarHutGearZoneReviews1181
@GuitarHutGearZoneReviews1181 Жыл бұрын
There actually sort of is a bright switch on the Dream 65. It’s on by default but if you switch the boost toggle to “lead” it removes the simulated bright cap in the vibrato channel. You need to have the lead boost knob slightly above 8 o clock for it to work
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@rocketshiptoaltair
@rocketshiptoaltair 5 ай бұрын
I ordered one of these today. This is probably the best video I've seen demonstrating the Deluxe 65. I have the Jims 45 and have found some tasty tones but I think this is the one for me. Nice to hear a bit of Dick Dale and Link Wray too.. Thanks for sharing.
@bldallas
@bldallas Жыл бұрын
Very cool pedal and very affordable. I have an original 1965 Fender Champ and have always been hooked on that era of Fender amps. If I didn’t already have a Boss Fender ‘65 Deluxe Reverb pedal, I’d definitely buy one of these. Hell, I might still buy one! Thanks for the review; great job!
@nibrocnoel3240
@nibrocnoel3240 11 ай бұрын
I have a vintage Silverface vibro champ (made 1973 - I looked up the serial code) that I got used in '88 and is still my go to amp.
@BaronsDuju
@BaronsDuju Жыл бұрын
The UA sounds much more like I remember the amp sounding like last time I played one at a good volume. That warmth and bass is a massive part of that amp’s sound IMO.
@thesongwritersjourney
@thesongwritersjourney Жыл бұрын
Great review! Fantastic Shirt!!!!!
@tank3598
@tank3598 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Topanga just recently but for the price of this one, it's a good deal, love the variety of modes and settings. It is drippy indeed.
@ondrejbartak5538
@ondrejbartak5538 Жыл бұрын
TC is more natural, UA is more like a studio recording. Well described and showcased!
@MYGAS21
@MYGAS21 Жыл бұрын
I would mic the TC putting it through the insert of an amp and get whatever sound I want THAT way. The drip it has is amazing and the dynamic response is pure magic.
@davidestes9971
@davidestes9971 Жыл бұрын
I was hearing a theremin type sound in my in ears at my last gig. After watching this I have figured out it was my Dream pedal not getting the proper power after i redid my pedal board. Thank you!
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast Жыл бұрын
yeah thats totally possible.
@TriangleWaveRecords
@TriangleWaveRecords Жыл бұрын
You should definitely power the UA pedals with 500mA (and isolated) as a minimum just for safety.
@NoelHaven
@NoelHaven Жыл бұрын
Thank you Joey!
@ryangunwitch-black
@ryangunwitch-black Жыл бұрын
I’m digging those knobs!
@sgd5k292
@sgd5k292 Жыл бұрын
Perfect! Now I can have real surf drip from my Spark amp at a reasonable price! I have asked Positive Grid if they were ever going to come out with an update to add real surf drip reverb to the Spark and was told they were working on it.
@wharman1
@wharman1 Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD - That shirt is so awesome!!!
@malcolmkendall1547
@malcolmkendall1547 20 күн бұрын
Great reveiw, thanks. Let's say they were both actual amps and I was deciding which to buy on overall sound alone, for me the TC would be a no brainer,
@waynedoherty7758
@waynedoherty7758 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Will 👍
@Laserdanger1
@Laserdanger1 Жыл бұрын
The second you strummed on the UA I was like yeah, that’s a Deluxe Reverb. I have a Silver Face DR for reference
@sticksnstones23
@sticksnstones23 Жыл бұрын
I got mine tonight. I use a pedalboard into a quilter amp head into a cab. I have intention of using it that way rather than direct into a PA. I like my dirt pedal (OCD) and have no need to do anything different for a dirty sound. It’s my clean sound that needs more clean. I wanted this pedal to get me closer to a clean fender tone with good reverb and quality EQ adjustments. The pedal sounds good. I didn’t realize how good it sounds until I A/ B it on and off. This pedal clean verses the clean straight into the quilter. This pedal can get a very thin Fender tone or a very fat and rounded fender tone. The EQ works good. The reverb is good but it is not great. It gets in the way of the tone actually after 5-6. Not in a good way. The bypass mode works great. No color at all. Here is the big surprise. The OCD pedal sounds great going in front of this pedal. It brings out some great sounding presence and slightly compresses it in a good way. I will use it for my dirt tone. I don’t like how bright the pedal is. Even with the bright switch off, the reverb rolled down for the darkest tone and the treble setting way down … it has a treble frequency that is giving it a harsh sound. It can be dialed down to taste but the harshness is still there. This may vary with different guitar pickups and cabs. I have to try the direct to PA out and see how it sounds. Overall I think it is gig worthy. It is built well and great looking. Trying to use the pedal in two channel mode to get a clean and dirt out of it did not work for me. The pedal does clean well. It does the edge of breakup very well. But I don’t think most will want to use it for a dirt tone on its own.
@zloboslav_
@zloboslav_ Жыл бұрын
Wow! Good job TC! And it's affordable! I'd buy it if I didn't already have a Pod GO which also has drippy reverb.
@PacoPascualmusic
@PacoPascualmusic 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic demo, thank you so much !! Each their own but... ended up selling my UA Dream 65, also my tc combo deluxe 65 , I play every night in a country band with no amp, straight to the P.A. in both pedals I needed to use a eq pedal to fine tune the sound and make it sound like a deluxe amp, but both pedals have a big lack of HIGH freq. yes they both can sound High but not high enough like a the Amp which is crucial that freq to get the twangy sound on a telecaster... both pedals are great , I prefer the UA for many reasons... but at the end I tried the new Kemper Player and man... that's the one so far that got closer to the real deal, I can get all the highs and even more ... Kemper player is more expensive but man at the end of the day what u want is to have the best sound and forget about keep buying stuff to get the sound you have in mind. The little Kemper player it's been already 6 months in my pedalboard and it works like a charm.
@josephanthonymusic5737
@josephanthonymusic5737 5 ай бұрын
Through my earbuds, listening to this demo,I'd say there's something about the reverb on the dream that kind of softens the brightness. Like you said: there's more separation on the TC, the UA seems to have reverb that surrounds the sound of the tone, kind of warming it and softening the shrillness. With all that, I do have the TC and I run it through a cab simulator and into my daw and I like recording with it. I run an Ibanez tube screamer in front of it often and it sounds good 👌
@aj81ds
@aj81ds Жыл бұрын
I got the Jims 45 for the crunchy tones on both channels and it sounds amazing for punk rock. However I was thinking about getting the CD 65 for my clean tones and it drips. Only downside is No swapping IR's but for the price I can't complain. Thanks for the video Ryan and keep playing that drippy surf music.
@JAHDUBProductions
@JAHDUBProductions 8 ай бұрын
I grabbed a 45 as well. I like it. I'm debating on whether or not to get the 800 or the dual wreck next. The newer ones seem cool.
@asharpbflat7179
@asharpbflat7179 10 ай бұрын
Thank YOU Laura Garcia !!!!!!! 😊🙌🏽
@jakehooker
@jakehooker 9 ай бұрын
Can we get an update video after the recent firmware update? I’d like to hear the difference in cab simulator and headroom. Great video as always!
@thedreadtones
@thedreadtones Жыл бұрын
Wow…I much prefer the Drip on the TC Electronic compared to the UA. It sounds way more natural. Good job TC!
@donbishop6994
@donbishop6994 Жыл бұрын
Same.
@michelvondenhoff9673
@michelvondenhoff9673 6 ай бұрын
Here there is about $240 between both. I take the Combo Deluxe and fetch an overdrive or fuzz and still have some change in my pocket.
@sethwilliford3184
@sethwilliford3184 Жыл бұрын
Im impressed with the tc!
@Rulon-bo1ig
@Rulon-bo1ig Жыл бұрын
The tc combo 65 might be the reverb/amp sim for me, just to run into the champion 100 with a tr2. I’m not a purist but love the vintage tones and drips and chugs of that era. That dream does sound amazing though 😅
@dylansmale
@dylansmale 9 ай бұрын
Dream sounds like an actual Deluxe Reverb. It's spring doesn't sounds detached probably because they implemented it within the signal chain properly (before and after the preamp stage). But also the spring sound cascades properly unlike in the TC. Surprisingly the TC reverb does seem to emulate the spring chassis resonating at higher gain volumes (so does the Dream). I can't imagine confusing the TC for the real thing. Dream clearly stands above in terms of emulation and by a decent bit.
@diogomp81
@diogomp81 Жыл бұрын
It drips alright, but the lack of tremolo is mind blowing. We can never win, there's always something.
@ThemFuzzyMonsters
@ThemFuzzyMonsters Жыл бұрын
Should just buy an actual Deluxe 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣
@Snowcountry556
@Snowcountry556 Жыл бұрын
@@ThemFuzzyMonsters good luck with that in an apartment lol
@ThemFuzzyMonsters
@ThemFuzzyMonsters Жыл бұрын
@@Snowcountry556 Should just buy a house 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣
@ryangunwitch-black
@ryangunwitch-black Жыл бұрын
@@ThemFuzzyMonstersBasically the only reason I went into debt 💸 with my lady. Lol she wanted to get an apartment. I said “Yeah. I can’t play guitar in an apartment.”
@travisdahl
@travisdahl Жыл бұрын
my dream 65 lack of headphone jack is also mind blowing and the fact that they don't actually show you what your saved settings are in the app :(
@gsbguitarsgsb679
@gsbguitarsgsb679 Жыл бұрын
I’m digging your Das Wiggle Schticken shirt. lol… 🤓 It does the dripping of the dripper deluxe drip-a-potamus. lol yea that!
@SquizbarDeAlienOfficial
@SquizbarDeAlienOfficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks Doug 🤘
@riphopfer5816
@riphopfer5816 Жыл бұрын
I want them to add that drippy spring ‘Verb to their TonePrint library, so I might add it to my HOF.
@chickenlickin3820
@chickenlickin3820 Жыл бұрын
i have that gretsch baritone, minus the bigsby. arrived damaged but decided to keep it as is less a few schackles!
@neilwarden
@neilwarden 11 ай бұрын
I previously posted a review which highlighted the clean overhead and harshness, I recently updated with the latest firmware. GREAT update resolving all problems, I'm hanging on to it now. MAJOR improvement!
@DD_Franks
@DD_Franks 10 ай бұрын
Hi Neil. How would you say it compares now with the firmware update? How did the pedal change for you? Thanks! DD.
@neilwarden
@neilwarden 10 ай бұрын
A lot more headroom but after closely comparing it to my all analog Tech 21 Blonde I still found it too digital and the T21 overdrive knocked the TC for six. The reverb is amazing though. I sold the TC, wasnt wasting any more time on it. @@DD_Franks
@SkeeterDigs
@SkeeterDigs Жыл бұрын
Dam you Ryan, 44:12 I wasn’t going to get any new gear for a while!! 👍👍🥵
@Anonymous99997
@Anonymous99997 4 ай бұрын
I wish that Fender would create a pedal in this form factor that takes the electronics out of their ToneMaster Deluxe Reverb and puts it in to a single pedal.
@mikedr1549
@mikedr1549 Жыл бұрын
So - that sounds pretty damn good!
@CoolGreenApple
@CoolGreenApple Жыл бұрын
And actually for recording, I could see myself taking out a lot of that low end that makes me favor the Dream in this comparison, so the TC might actually be better for my purposes
@danieljohansson1938
@danieljohansson1938 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Will we see a drip check of the new boss ME 90?
@CleverAU
@CleverAU 11 ай бұрын
I wonder how much of the difference is because of the IRs I’d love to see a comparison with them going through the same cab sim
@TommySurfink
@TommySurfink Жыл бұрын
Gotta say the TC is boss sounding and that drip is beautiful! Just a bit disappointed that you didn't read out the other languages 😂
@jacobpruett3025
@jacobpruett3025 Жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome! I'd love to hear how it compares to the oceans 11
@jorgesilva6454
@jorgesilva6454 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan! First of all very nice (and detailed) review of these two nice pedals! Any chances for you to test#compare the Benson Preamp versus the Jackson Audio Silvertone Twin Twelve? Ps: waiting for my UA Dream 65 on my mail box! 🎉🎉🎉
@DangerFalcon
@DangerFalcon Жыл бұрын
Thank you Danger Falcon
@RobertHerndon
@RobertHerndon Жыл бұрын
I like the TC more than the UA in your demo. I really dig Fender amp tones. I mostly play clean, I'm not into a whole lot of gain, overdrive is just fine. I read a review on Sweetwater that said the TC didn't do clean. I think that individual didn't spend enough time with it before writing their impressions. I think this with a compressor, a boost and a univibe of some sort in front -- then a delay/reverb and an Eventide Micropitch after the output might wind up being my pedalboard. THAT PRICE! AND it sounds better to my ear than many of the Fender Deluxe models in multi-effects units.
@whatdoyoucare777
@whatdoyoucare777 Жыл бұрын
Awesome shirt
@stephanewelti8816
@stephanewelti8816 9 ай бұрын
I'm used to not understanding anything when people speak English. But I understand youI'm used to not understanding anything when people speak English. But I understand you. Thank u to for your video
@dalehuffman6773
@dalehuffman6773 6 ай бұрын
I currently own a Fender '65 Deluxe reissue and the TC Combo sounds closer to the real thing to my ears. The UA Dream sounds very processed and very much like an electronic amp sim. IMO, no sim can replace a good all-tube amp but they do offer a lot of convenience and help clean up a stage - both visually and sonically. That's really the only reason I'm even considering an amp sim - to use at church with our praise band. I'll continue to use my '65 Deluxe combo when I play out live and the amp sim pedal will stay at church. I will use the same pedalboard into both. Since I'll be using my pedalboard, I don't really need all the options the UA Dream offers. The test with the Hizumitas was very revealing. The TC sounded a little harsh on the top end but I think that was because of how you had the tone stack set. You were trying to make the two pedals sound alike so you had flipped the bright switch on to give the TC Combo more of a scooped sound like the UA Dream. Later in the video at about 44:58 you dialed the TC Combo into to sound more like the UA Dream - more of a muddy, scooped sound. But while that type sound may sound good when the guitar is played by itself, it's not a sound that is going to sit well in a mix. It would have been nice, and very revealing, to AB both pedals with a real '65 Deluxe with a good mic on the cab. Thanks for making this video! I'm going to order the TC Electronics Combo and give it a try. This is a huge move for me. I'm a tube amp purist. But, I decided to give this a try at church to reduce stage volume and clean up the stage. At $149 versus $399 - it's an easy decision. If I don't like it, you'll find it for sale on Reverb!
@shaunmartin6569
@shaunmartin6569 Жыл бұрын
With the gain up, that is a cracking Learning To Fly (Pearl Jame) tone. Lush. Does the bright switch only effect the reverb algorithm?
@tremelo68
@tremelo68 Жыл бұрын
@7:58 Nice! Meters for the win.
@frankgeick3641
@frankgeick3641 Жыл бұрын
I think the TC speaker IR is great. Not much time was devoted to the multiple UA speaker IR's but they sounded dull. I use the SA True Spring; that's my reverb. My Fender amps are a Mojotone 5E8 and Fender Deluxe Reverb; which is a chore to move around. As others have said, the UA Dream might be my choice for recording, but the TC would be way more engaging for live performance. I am coming to the conclusion, reluctantly, that so much equipment has a "sweet spot", so "set it and forget it". When I sample for my Quad Cortex it's just one configuration. The TC unit over good headphones sounded like my Deluxe, and that is all I expect from it.
@jasonkesser
@jasonkesser Жыл бұрын
Ryan, the shirt 😂😂😂 hell yes
@LuisRFeliu
@LuisRFeliu Жыл бұрын
really miss the AmPro sea chrome Jazzmaster for pedal demos :(
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast Жыл бұрын
Yeah I need to put it back into rotation.
@ryangunwitch-black
@ryangunwitch-black Жыл бұрын
I have Fender amps out the wazoo, most of them vintage so I don’t need this. BUT I NEED THIS. 😅
@marcellomontonese3362
@marcellomontonese3362 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Great demo,, it actually drips... I'm wondering if is possible use the reverb as a standalone effect without engaging the "amp effect"
@mistamovegas
@mistamovegas 11 ай бұрын
I wondered the same, but at the end Ryan says he can do that with just plugging in to the output vs direct out. TC Electronic's specs say: Output 1 x ¼" TRS, balanced with ground sensing* Direct out (cab sim) 1 x ¼" TRS, balanced with ground sensing*
@emtbwulf9215
@emtbwulf9215 Жыл бұрын
In your test, I liked the TC better. It sounded more open, less processed than the UA. Also, the UA sounded more congested with the fuzz and the TC again, more open. TC wins with the spring reverb. It seemed to reacted much better to your picking dynamics.
@sseltrek1a2b
@sseltrek1a2b Жыл бұрын
if it does things a bit better than the UA and costs half as much, it sounds like a win to me...
@jasonwilson7937
@jasonwilson7937 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you compare these two with the spring setting on the EHX Ocean's 11 or 12. How does the drip compare?
@cybermexi-8100
@cybermexi-8100 Жыл бұрын
An excellent (but unfortunately discontinued) digital reverb pedal. that has that super saturated drippy spring reverb is the Digitech Supernaturalverb. Although thats just a pure reverb pedal, its worth checking out
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast Жыл бұрын
I had one. The drip didn’t live up to the hype.
@moewhocooper
@moewhocooper Жыл бұрын
If you used a ir in your daw and not from the pedals then how close would they sound is my question
@NANIKANSEIDORIFTO
@NANIKANSEIDORIFTO Жыл бұрын
Regarding the TC's lack of cab options, since they are using official Celestion cabs, adding 2 more would surely increase the price. They likely decided it wasn't worth it considering the budget of the users they are targeting with this product. Also USB will likely provide software updates and maybe just maybe allow the user to change the onboard IR. Still even if this doesn't happen it still sounds great on its own. Like others mentioned would've liked if more drive/distortion pedals were tested but the video was already 1h long so it's understandable why they were not
@SisterRose
@SisterRose Жыл бұрын
Curious what a Bass would sound like through this. I sometimes run my Bass through the Deluxe model on my Vox ADIO Air GT
@TheGurner1
@TheGurner1 4 ай бұрын
I got the TC today - I think I would have preferred the warmer UA Dream, but it's got something going for it, though I did find it a little bright/brittle - as you say a different speaker emulation like a Jensen or Oxford would be a great thing. Still, it will serve as a DI for my Acoustasonic Tele . Thanks for a really great exposition
@JohnnyVegetables
@JohnnyVegetables Жыл бұрын
Much preferred the TC. And less than half the cost to boot! Clear winner.
@timholtguitar6999
@timholtguitar6999 Жыл бұрын
To me, The UAFX is better in every way. The gain structure sounds more natural, and it’s a lot more versatile. Both have great reverb, and the TC is a great value. Also, like you me ruined, the UA is a mic’d DR, vs the TC that sounds more like an amp on a stage. Pick whichever one works with your budget.
@jonnyf9049
@jonnyf9049 7 ай бұрын
I think you should have tried the same IR on both for matching them up or trying to make them sound simialar
@mjdbruyn
@mjdbruyn Жыл бұрын
What, no two Princetons? Unsubbed.
@DirkKProjects
@DirkKProjects 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. 😎 Do you notice latency with either one of those pedals?
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 11 ай бұрын
Nope.
@richardsinkler5898
@richardsinkler5898 3 ай бұрын
TC does make a spring reverb pedal called, 'Drip Spring Reverb'.
@moewhocooper
@moewhocooper Жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim Raffa for the Video
@lordimpaler3899
@lordimpaler3899 Жыл бұрын
Bro, I love that shirt. Is that some of YOUR merch? And does it come in black?
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast Жыл бұрын
yes. link in the description.
@pedalbreeder
@pedalbreeder 11 ай бұрын
Exactly my topic 🙂 I am running ampless - and always ask myself: does it need such a stereo, power hungry, everything smoothing out amp sim - or does a half price, simple, single amp sim pedal do the job? I hear the arguments go here most of the time in direction of the UA Dream (for it's ribbon mic simulation ?), but at least in my earphones I mostly prefered the more rough and simple TC over it. Feels like the CabSim won the comparison, not the amp. And that I AM more on the brittle side of sounds in my preferences 🙂
@GaugedFreak10
@GaugedFreak10 Жыл бұрын
It seems like the TC would cut through a mix a lot better. I'd love to hear it compared to one of the Princetons (or Deluxe Reverb.)
@Aaron-ot3uv
@Aaron-ot3uv Жыл бұрын
On a scale of 1 to 10 (where 1 is a felt padded room and 10 is a Surfybear) where do you rank the reverb of this pedal?
@lunarpollen
@lunarpollen Жыл бұрын
If they would make a pedal just like this, reverb and all, but based on an early 60's brownface, i would buy one ASAP
@DeckerIV
@DeckerIV Жыл бұрын
I wish my sky surfer sounded as drippy.
@gordontubbs
@gordontubbs Жыл бұрын
For most end-use applications where the TC is getting run to a soundboard, every audio engineer on the planet would be happy to receive that signal instead of mic'ing an amp. Once it gets blasted through a PA all of that 'small box' fizz will just evaporate. The UA on the other hand already has that 'post-channel strip' processed sound, which certainly simplifies the user experience on both sides (player and engineer).
@michaelloebenstein3930
@michaelloebenstein3930 10 ай бұрын
Quick question: can you use the two outputs (to amp, DI with cab sim) simultaneously? I'm thinking of using this live with a low watt combo on stage, with the cab sim signal going to FOH and the out (without cab sim) into the amp for a bit of on-stage monitoring. Many thanks!
@cantfindamerica877
@cantfindamerica877 9 ай бұрын
Ur absolutely correct, the TC, sounds live amp. UA sounds mastered recording. In my opinion I’d go with the TC. Because I could smooth it out to my personal perfection.
@chazotron600
@chazotron600 Жыл бұрын
I wish you would have tried to run the UA thru the non cab side of the TC and only used the TC's Reverb along with the UA's cab
@TheTwangKings
@TheTwangKings Жыл бұрын
Dude you gotta test the new Vox mini teardrop guitars. They are beyond cool.
@bayuardyawan
@bayuardyawan 10 ай бұрын
Tc electronic is a bit rough but I think it's more lifelike like playing a real fender amp. UAD is smoother, but the impression is closer to studio sound amp software
@FlyingCircusAct
@FlyingCircusAct Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Joe Terwillegar, Andrew Bimson, and Mike Oxbig!
@soofitnsexy
@soofitnsexy Жыл бұрын
hahaaa
@7171jay
@7171jay Жыл бұрын
I haven't played one of these but in this video I think the TC sounds more like a real amp while the UA sounds a little bit over produced. You could always add some compression to the TC with a plug in in post or a separate pedal but the UA is what it is so you better like it because you can't unbake the cake. Lack of vibrato (trem actually) on the TC is a major oversight but I suppose some will be OK without it. The more crunchy overdrive stuff I think sounded better on the TC. More cutting on the TC and either a bit brittle or more cutting and present depending who you happen to ask but probably could be managed with eq on the pedal or the tone knob of the guitar or in post post while the warmer more produced sound of the UA is again going to be harder to change if it's not exactly to your taste.. The lack of a headphone volume on the TC is a miss but the total lack of a headphone output on the UA is obviously a far bigger fail. Vibrato, a headphone knob and the ability to load cab sims would make the TC a UA killer but it seems to hold up quite well as is. A real Deluxe has a fixed resistor for the mids but some people add a pot to be able to control the mids so I think this was a really good addition to the TC for those who might want a more forward than scooped sound. Very good review of the pedal here and comparing it directly to the UA made the video even better. Nice job!!!
@Skoora
@Skoora 9 ай бұрын
I tried a UA Dream for a while and it just had a smallness to the sound. I couldn’t dial it to sound anywhere near as full or present as the amps I had mic’d up. Even running the Dream into the loop return of an amp didn’t do it either. Also, with humbuckers it was nearly impossible to get a decent full clean sound. It went back from whence it came.
@ronlight7013
@ronlight7013 Жыл бұрын
Seems the Danes haven't quite figured out how we Yanks use the apostrophe to indicate missing characters. They put the apostrophe on the wrong side of the "65."
@larsfrederiksen3005
@larsfrederiksen3005 Жыл бұрын
It was actually commented on during the development, but the designer won over "logic" 😛
@quiksilver78
@quiksilver78 Жыл бұрын
@@larsfrederiksen3005 The Logic being "65 FEET" ?
@larsfrederiksen3005
@larsfrederiksen3005 Жыл бұрын
@@quiksilver78 hehe.. No, the logic being moving the apostrophe to the correct place :-)
@SisterRose
@SisterRose Жыл бұрын
Someone really needs to make a two princetons amp in a box(i.e. a princeton sim with stereo input/output)
@thecaveofthedead
@thecaveofthedead Жыл бұрын
I also totally expected the reverb to be pretty limp. But it's right up there. It's a really impressive unit. It's a pity they left that one flaw - the inability to change the IR. But given the price, it'd be hard to complain too much. I'd definitely choose this unit. The completely marginal difference with the UA for the lack of headphone jack - it's only worth the money if you have a lot of spare cash. For a surf guitar player, I think that aggressive reverb response is preferable.
@quiksilver78
@quiksilver78 Жыл бұрын
I can imagine TC implementing some sort of quick editor program, in the very least, to solely change the built-in IR (the description never mentions which mic(s) are being used and, for example, I always prefer a combo of the SM57+R121 which Celestion DOES offer in the IR packs so exactly WHICH IR is being used here in these pedals?) I mean it's a pipe dream at this point but I can't imagine the sharp folks at TC not being able to figure out something
@thecaveofthedead
@thecaveofthedead Жыл бұрын
@@quiksilver78 Plus it's possible that users will learn to hack it. I've seen that done on some other devices to substitute user IRs.
@patrickkowalski8256
@patrickkowalski8256 Жыл бұрын
we all need to find that shirt. I'd wear one
@doctorskull8197
@doctorskull8197 Жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t the 65’ read ‘65? Anyway, sounds very similar to my Fender outboard reverb unit! That’s a good thing. Technology just keeps getting better ‼️🌊🏄🏼
@birdman316
@birdman316 Жыл бұрын
"driptastic" film brotha! im glad i dont have to spend 300 on a s-bear when i can get the delux65 unit for 150ish woooo!!
@LeftyF2003
@LeftyF2003 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this! I was close to picking up the TC as a backup to my Deluxe live, but after this demo I'm inclined to do the Dream pedal instead, as it seems to take pedals better and overall sounds better for me. It may in some ways sound better than my DRRI. Thanks again for the extensive demo and testing. And BTW you're a great player so don't sell yourself short 🙂
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