A year ago this month, my hubby and I used the SOS for the first time. I had fallen on trail and wrenched my knee to the point it was swollen the size of a softball. I really could not walk on it more than a few steps before I had to stop. We were 6 miles into a wilderness area, no cell and no roads. They sent a rescue team on foot to us with a horse, which I rode out. it was amazing and NO CHARGE for it at all. When they got us back to the parking lot I had to fill out some paperwork and say thanks to everyone... nothing more. We went to the ER when we got home and it was an injury that needed an Ortho doc visit. And we also sent a nice donation the the Rescue Dept of that County for their great work. Well worth it.

Back in the late 80's I was a Search and Rescue Coordinator with the US Coast Guard stationed in the Outer Banks of NC. There was a windsurfer who was missing and the USCG detached a helicopter and several boats to find him. They found him with the helicopter in a marsh. He was from Canada and I remember him saying "When I saw that helicopter lowering a man down to rescue me, I was wondering what that was going to cost me." My answer, "Nothing, we don't charge."

If you’re in the backcountry often get a satcom communicator and pay for insurance. For what it does It’s too inexpensive not to. Take advantage of modern technology and don’t be cheap. I used my Garmin to get a friend with a tummy ache off a 14er. It turned out to be a herniated esophagus. Don’t self diagnose. Doctors who treat themselves have a fool for a patient and they know more than you. If you’re thinking about pushing the button, push the button. Don’t be afraid to use it. Oddly enough, the same hike I used my Garmin to get a helo for my friend I ended up saving two other hypothermic hikers who got lost in a snow storm at night. I didn’t use the Garmin for them. I wrapped them together in my sleeping bag and made them drink multiple cups of heated water all through the night. When I found them they couldn’t answer questions. By morning they were able to walk themselves out. I didn’t use the Garmin for them because the weather and wind wouldn’t permit a helo to land where we were. I am not a KZfaqr but I do post my trip videos on KZfaq for my friends and family to easily see what I’m up to. I screenshot the actual conversation I had with rescue after I pushed the SOS button. If you’re interested it’s in my Mt Whitney video.

Definitely add more on the SAR 100 plan. I'm glad I found that years ago because I was confused about what happens AFTER you hit that SOS button. The Grand Canyon is free from in the canyon to a canyon based medical facility because it's a national park. Some SAR teams rescue for free if, for example, you get lost on trail and Garmin coordinates the rescue, it doesn't cost a penny since they are volunteers. But some of these flights cost tens of thousands of dollars and most insurances DO NOT cover them!! The SAR 100 coverage is well worth the peace of mind for the annual cost of 39.95. Great video BTW!

Good conversation! Would love to see more on this topic. A few points of clarification: 0:41 Whether you're using the Iridium Network (Garmin) or Globalstar (Spot/Apple) you're first being connected to a private service such as Garmin Response/IERCC (private) who will then connect you to the relevant dispatcher (public). I think it's important to know the difference, and who you're talking to. 5:25 "Negligence" is a bit tricky because that often comes down to personal judgment which is inherently subjective and often flawed. Being charged is rare. It's worth noting however that if someone deliberately misleads responders as to the severity of their injuries (say to get a helicopter ride) not only may there be financial consequences, but criminal charges are also a possibility. Think of it like calling 911 for a fake emergency because that's exactly what it is. 6:20 That all said, our job is to go when people call for help. Period. If you have a "tummy ache", regardless of whether it's bad gas or a GI bleed, there's no definitive way of knowing that outside of a hospital. If you feel your situation merits putting others at risk and tying up resources, then do it guilt free. Better safe than too late. Again, this is a personal judgment thing which is why it's so tricky. 7:17 Good distinction between "Backcountry Rescue" and "Frontcountry Transport". I know for a fact that Grand has an NPS chopper, but not every Park has those resources. If you'd been someplace else they may have transported you by ambulance to a helispot to meet a private transport such as Life Flight (or AirAmbu1 in Arizona). That's where insurance factors in. Depending on your coverage, health insurance might cover NONE, some, or maybe even all of the costs. That's something you might want to look up. You might have purchased additional "rescue insurance" such as Global Rescue or have that included with a membership from a group like the AAC. You'll have to go through a reimbursement process for that. Furthermore at least some air transports offer memberships if you know you'll be in a specific area or that's where you live. Unfortunately... it's complicated, and not talked about nearly enough. Rescues are all different. You might get a "talk out" where all that's needed is some encouragement and direction for self rescue. You might get a "walk out" where a team comes in on foot, ski, horseback, atv, etc to assist you. And then of course there's the "fly out" option. It's all a balancing act of risk to rescuers/rescuee, urgency, availability of resources, and of course... cost. Bit of an oversimplification, but hopefully any insane person actually reading this comment gets the point.

Love the Hiking Guy!! His videos and website have such DETAILED info on sooo many hikes. Like, turn-by-turn what to expect. Fun to see you guys together!!

Thank God for the NHS (National Health Service) in Northern Ireland. I broke my ankle on a mountain and although I made it down myself (on my bum) to a fairly safe and flat area I had to be airlifted off the mountain where I was dropped at a football field so an ambulance could bring me the rest of the way to hospital. As it's in the UK where we pay National Insurance as part of our wage deductions the cost to me was nothing. Nothing for the air support, nor the ambulance and nothing for the treatment at the time and the follow-ups included CT scans, X-Rays etc as I took blood clots later. I have to say I am utterly grateful for the system we have in the UK and Ireland. Great video as always. It's always an eye opener to the gear that's out there but also how different how health systems work.

I had a friend who died in an avalanche while he was snowmobiling. A long time ago now. It was way out in the high country and it took ems about 4 hours to get to his location via snowmobile. The closest hospital was well over an hours drive from the trailhead away. He was unburied from the avalanche relatively quickly and I always wondered what might have happened if they had pushed the button on Lifeflight instead of ground transport. The chance is slim but they may have been able to save him. That incident made up my mind to always request air ambulance in a place so remote for anything life threatening. I even carry air ambulance phone numbers on my cell phone just in case.

Hey it’s The Hiking Guy! I’ve been following him ever since I started day hiking In So Cal. Thank you Dan for posting this video, such valuable info. I saw your video of the Grand Canyon and thought about buying the inreach mini. Didn’t end up getting it before my trip. Hermits Rest to Bright Angel via the Tonto (4days) just got back a couple days ago. More trips in the future so I will end up getting one for sure. Hope to run into you both out on the trails one day!

Yay! It’s Hiking Guy!! Big fan of his YT channel. Great to see my two fav backpackers together in one video 😊👍

Dan I am sooooo glad to hear you say you have no sense of direction!! Same here and good to see Garmin is a good solution to that. Will be buying one for myself soon! Keep up the great video’s! ❤

Amazing mini dive into this topic Dave. Thanks. If I may.....The strange twist to my rescue stories, is that on both occasions, my cell phones had service in the most remote, desolate locations ever! The other bonus is that I was never charged for either rescue. But, before my cat-like luck runs out, I should probably get an actual rescue device!!!!

Been using the Garmin Inreach Explorer+ since I started solo hiking and backpacking in the California Sierra. Never had to push the button never came close, but it is a comfort that it's there and the family enjoys the text/email from all of my adventures. Don't leave home without it.

Definitely a huge help. I will be following both of you guys now. Thanks.

Why is it that your buddy Eric Hanson doesn't have more subscribers. Both of you do such an amazing job on your channels with fantastic attention to detail in your scripts and video quality. Just blows my mind. Keep doing what you are doing because its awesome.

It might be a good idea for Garmin-or Dan take the lead with HikingGuy-and develop an SOS triage plan for followers. The key is to have a safe, good outcome for the person(s) needing rescue, the SAR responders, and even bystanders, while avoiding inappropriate or misuse of the system. Trauma, chest pains, debilitating dehydration, hypothermia, altitude sickness, and a moderate range of other defined issues are definitely instances where SOS makes sense. Being tired a mile from the parking lot and wanting a lift back is not an emergency. SAR exposes people to danger. Mitigating that danger through prudent and timely use is a noble goal. No one should hesitate to punch the SOS button when rescue is truly needed and a clear flow chart would help decision-making for most people. After all, even recovery missions can be dangerous while having much more control on conditions.

Glad you did this video. I've always been nervous to buy a unit just because i know the cost of that button. I just risk it and hope for no issues. Keep pushing so i buy one for this year. Thanks

Love HikingGuy! So thorough. Good information in this video.

That's good to know! Thanks, Dan and Chris!

Glad to see Hiking Guy on!

Great information. Many of us including myself, have bought these devices but then never gave it much more thought. One step further is people should understand some of the technical strengths and limitations of the devices and the satellites they use. Iridium vs Globalstar etc. Always good to have a back up comms plan. Sometime satelite comms will not work do to geography, location or solar activity. And a radio might work. At a minimum I will have a cell phone, radio and inReach device. You dont have to be in the middle of now where. You could be a 15 min hike from town but if you just applied a tourniquet and cant move, you will need a rescue.

Awesome info! Thanks for your efforts in getting this out there.

I use a Personal Locator Beacon (a type of EPIRB or Emergency Position-Indicating Radio Beacon), specifically one from Resqlink. They are much superior to the Garmin and other Sat communicator when it comes to rescue. You do not need a subscription (you register it with your government body), they work anywhere in the world, and are considerably more powerful (3-4x the transmitter power) and use a broader range of satellite networks. They also have strobes built in, an will guide rescue helicopters directly to your position from fairly far away. They work in places where you will not get signal on a Garmin, such as inside a ravine, or under heavy tree cover, they also work in the middle of the ocean (and generally will float too).

Neat! I recall from my halcyon days of hiking, that if Parks Canada had to launch a rescue for you which required a helicopter, it would cost the hiker big bucks, if we HAD NOT signed out at the trailhead. In my day, we didn't have to reserve a trip with the Warden Service. A guy just had to sign the register box at the trailhead. It's much different today of course. If you had signed in at the trailhead, you were covered over any rescue. No smartphones/gps etc etc in my day.

it is sad that in the us we have to be worried about cost due to our for profit insurance and health care. this was really helpful information.

This was very good clear information. Thank you for this! 🥾🥾😎

This is one of the first videos you made where I knew I had to watch it instantly 🙌👍👌

I was spoiled as a child-- I grew up in a city with an all volunteer EMS, so ambulance rides/EMS response was free (as they should be). It wasn't until I moved away and actually needed to call EMS that I learned that most places charge. The fact that subscriptions are involved makes me not trust these things as mistakes get made. If I ever was in a place that I thought merited one of these, I would carry an EPIRB too. It's only a transmitter, so you get no feedback, but it's multinational and bulletproof and they won't cut your account.

Thanks Chris and Dan. As a newbie to this tech, I appreciate the content and many of the comments. I also found the content very confusing. A summary would be an effective way to draw issues together?

I've got the mini and I pay for the insurance Garmin offers along with the communications plan. I carry it with me pretty much anytime I'm away from my vehicle in the woods. In Oregon there are lots of places without cell service, and if I slip and fall and break my leg while fly fishing in a little canyon fifty yards from a well used road, if there's no cell service, I might as well be three days into the Kalmiopsis wilderness when it comes to self rescue in that situation. So yeah, I pay the insurance and I'll push the button. That said, I would certainly double and triple check my options if I were planning a trip outside of North America to be sure I knew what the best options were in the particular circumstance I was heading into.

This was great! I have additional AirMed insurance and always wondered how the whole system worked ! This was a great video, thanks !

Thank you! Such great info!!👍

Hey Dan, unfortunately I have a bit of a record with search and rescue. Some areas most definitely do charge! For instance I know the Teton National park for a full search and rescue operation to get out an injured climber or skier is about the same cost as an ambulance. But one county away from Tetons in Idaho does not charge for search and rescue. I think it depended a lot on how the local government chooses to fund the service. I also know that mt hood Oregon definitely charged for search and rescue…

Thank you, this was helpful!

That was so informative, great vlog!!

I’m confused because Dixie got helicoptered out with garmin SOS and she got a bill for $59,000. The only reason she isn’t paying it is because she purchased rescue insurance from Garmin which was $29 a month. So why is he saying a blanket statement that they won’t charge you for a rescue? It seems that’s only true if you purchase the supplement insurance.

Good video. As a recent purchaser of a mini inreach this is some good information. Makes me happy to have bought one and got the insurance.

Really appreciate this video!

Back when one of the only options for emergency rescue communications was the Breitling Emergency watch line, they were very careful to point out that false alarms carried a $100,000 USD fine penalty.

Dan Thanks for having Chris on. You are correct in that he is The Goat. Eddie in Tennessee

The legend. Love it!

It's like what is classified as an emergency? When do you call the fire department? Is this something we can extinguish by ourselves? It's good to know we can talk to get advice. Great subject Dan, thanks

Its CRAZY sitting here in Norway, listening to you guys talk about paying for ambulance. Its ALL free here. Ambulance, Helicopter, Hospital, Medicine

I really think it depends on where you are in the world. In the UK there is no charge for mountain rescue or ambulances or anything like that. Obviously, there are consequences for making false claims or misleading rescuers to the severity of what has happened, but that may bring criminal charges against you.

Something to add about the iPhone sat sos, it rained so much yesterday on the AT, I couldn't even activate the wet screen, nor keep it dry long enough to activate it to simply use Farout. Using it as a sat communicator would involve more waiting around and even more frustration as rain-activated different parts of the screen by accident.

Love your videos!

It really depends on where you are being rescued from. Up here in BC Canada it's completely free, no questions asked.

Thinking of you both as you go through this. Moxie was absolutely part of your family and journey. Take care of yourselves. Unfortunately we have lost several dogs in recent years and know the pain.

Somewhat off the subject but I was a river boatman late 60's early 70's in the Grand Canyon. A passenger got ill enough we felt she needed extraction. Our only comunication device was a signal mirror and sure enough we reached a passenger jet way off in the distance. A helicopter showed up, so ther you go.

Peace of mind is why I carry it. I bike/ trail and road so if something should happen you can hit the SOS. Ie on the road. hit and run or MTB on a remote trail. Also great to send an important text if no cell service which is often. Keep it right on my body.

Great video Dan!

A totally free helicopter ride seems like a great way to incentivize negligible behavior in the backcountry

Great conversation, i’ve had a mini 2 for sometime and the SAR 100 insurance but never had to use it.. Thank God very good knowledge to know. Thanks Dan

for the cost of rescue, when i had a spot gen 3 i paid for the world wide insurance IIRC it covered upto 1million, think its a good idea depending where you hike. but cancled membership as wasnt doing anything remote, now doing research on a better device with text support. imo big things im looking for is rescue insurance with different levels snd different countries and some countries rescue and helath care is free, others you need to pay 10s of K, and a worldwide option, abnillity to easily cancel and renew so only pay when on a trip etc.

As a European I still find it kind of biuarr, that you could even think about having to pay for calling the emergency...

The Apple watch should work with routes/waypoints. Not sure about native support for those functions, but both Gaia and Komoot have apps you can load into the watch itself and set or import routes to work without the need for a companion phone.

In Colorado they have a backcountry permit you can buy that covers any evac. costs. Or any hunting or fishing permit.

I didn’t have this when I was hiking glacier national park, but I did have to get life flighted out of the park due to a sudden illness (probably giardia) and the helicopter is owned by a private company that does NOT charge for flights in the park. It was awesome! They flew me to the visitor center and then an ambulance took me to the closest hospital and the ambulance and hospital bill were a bit pricey. But sooo glad I didn’t have to pay for the helicopter.

I bought a garmin inreach explorer +. What a waste of money. By the time it was determined to be defective, warranty was over. It would never update, and I paid for a subscription for too many years hoping it would finally work right. Sometimes it would send my text messages, more often it would not. But the GPS & map worked and it was all I had. Then I bought a good smart phone and got the same thing with an app. No more garmin.

I’ve been eyeing the 67i for a few weeks since it came out. The battery life is waaaaay better than the 66i. I’m just waiting until it gets a little closer to the time where I’ll need it. Still too much snow here. Don’t want to have to bring a bunch of winter gear right now. $600 is lofty too

TheHikingGuy is awesome!

People in my circle of influence always talk about whether you've paid for a search and rescue stamp, like on a hunting or fishing license. People seem to think that decides whether you have to pay or not. Would be nice to know!!

There was only a partial amount of info provided here. When you push the SOS button on an inReach device that signal goes to GEOS emergency dispatch center in Texas, no matter where you are in the world. That dispatch center then decides who to call to assist you, based on you location. Who pays the bill depends on who comes to get you. In some places, there will absolutely be a bill. If you have GEOS rescue insurance, that may likely cover the rescue with a REIMBURSEMENT, but make no mistake, there could be a bill. I own an expedition company in the Himalayas. The only way to ensure you DO NOT pay for a rescue, whether you're in the USA or abroad, is to have rescue INSURANCE. Not a medical evac membership, but rescue INSURANCE. In those settings, you must also coordinate your rescue through that service, not just through GEOS. If you have something like Global Rescue insurance, but push the SOS button and don't tell them, they may not cover your rescue bill, if there is one. But be sure to understand, pushing the button accesses GEOS emergency dispatch, not a rescue service. GEOS decides who to call. They decide if there is a bill or not.

I've been around when the SOS function of the iPhone 14 was used and we were able to text and get some great information

Good info!

I'm a retired wilderness SAR guy. If a volunteer ground team comes for you there is never a charge. Volunteer teams love their work! There are a number of places in the USA where it is a paid team but those are typically big cities with "wilderness parks" within them. Such as Phoenix, AZ uses the city fire department. Or a few larger and densely populated counties. I don't know if those will send you a bill. Not all National Parks have dedicated SAR, most use local volunteers. If a helicopter is used there could be a charge, again depends on who it is. Private helicopter ambulance services will charge a massive bill. Government owned helicopters are free.

Thank you ...Negligence

Good information.

I was thinking that this video is about phone carrier fee for the SOS call. But I didn't realize that in USA it matters who rescues you, because of insurances.

lol if you have to press the SOS, then I don't think you are going to be caring that much about if Garmin charges you a fee for pressing it 🤣

From what I know about prepaid cellular plans, emergency calls never get you charged. Even if you are in Eritrea or (I don‘t know if they actually enabled cell registration for emergency calls) North Korea, the cell providers always has to pay for the emergency call.

NICE WORK MATE VERY WELL DONE IAM WATCHING FROM AUSTRALIA TIGHT LINES 🇦🇺 🙂 👍

awesome video, im glad there's other brands scribbling on the blackboard. especially excited for Motorola, bulletproof equipment man, reliable too. scary to think some are afraid to call for help cause it'll render them in debt. im honestly grateful I don't have to pay for healthcare and emergencies upfront in that way. damn. we can all say negligence is negligence and that is paid in many ways... but I still think id have a different approach to some of the activities that I do, if id have to pay a whopping 50k to get rescued or get help.

I personally love the ACR personal locator beacons, there’s no subscription fee and they are very durable. I’d rather have it do one thing and do it well. GPS maps on my phone with backup paper maps and compass just in case. I try to not make everything in my pack a tech item

Well….. just my two cents and as a first responder for almost 25 years I will say that agencies are able to bill your insurance for medical care and or rescue whether that be a medical evacuation or medical care from the initial patient contact but any agency would struggle to bill for compensation for an extrication from the woods without a medical component to bill for, so the negligence part is perhaps where this comes in. Typically where there is a rescue there is a level of medical care provided. Hence the search and rescue cross trained as a medical provider. So quite often some medical evacuations can bill your insurance for a few thousand upwards of 20k. So really as a first responder looking at a rescue as such I would say it would be hard to bill someone personally for negligence without law enforcement involved in the police report. Plus agencies know they won’t see a dime from personally billing someone for services other then medical or a technical rescue. I would say that most agencies are volunteers or paid sar/ medical providers with both outcomes being the same. Helicopter evacuations are not cheap, so they all know insurance is the only way to bill for those services to the common person. There will always be exceptions but I think just having medical insurance is the first step in protecting yourself in the back country. I have a garmin w/ inreach and I really don’t know where the garmin insurance plan would really help cover expenses as it seems like there are too many loopholes in their coverage and state that they do not cover for BASE jumping, free climbing, hang gliding etc. which would warrant rescue. So to be honest I don’t know what they would cover other than $5000 accidental death or loss coverage. Perhaps a rescue outside the United States where your insurance is not valid. Medical insurance is always based on medical necessity. So anyone billing will most likely find it a billable service. So I will have to say I disagree with when people say most insurances do not cover helicopter evacuations.

Nice to know. I thought the same thing that it would cost a bundle.

Thanks

I had to be medivac’d out, but there is no way out except by trail or plane. There is no road were I was living and working. I had already bought the insurance from Hawaii Life Flight. Otherwise it would be $30,000. All I had was the ambulance fee from airport to hospital. I had chest pain. I had to suffer all night as they had to wait until daylight.

Just wait till starlink comes out with a backpacking version of their satellite dish!

just an FYI, don’t buy anything but Garmin. They sell for $39.95 $100,000 with the rescue insurance. I’m surprised they didn’t know this. That being said there’s a company called global rescue that has no limits on what they spend to rescue you and get you out and it only cost for a seven day trip per person $139. If you do travel around the world, they will even come and rescue you with a military team if you’re in a dangerous spot. Pretty cool. Never go into the backcountry without something like this. Because you could be paying the bill for a long time you should never be worried about pushing a button to be rescued cover your butt folks.

These restrictions are being revamped currently. This'll fall hand in hand with the "stupid motorist" law. If you ignore signs, you will be charged for your own rescue, and upto 3 years for involuntary manslaughter if first responders die getting to you.

It's funny that it can be free or expensive depending on what helicopter ends up being dispatched.

Huge question, what if you run into someone in an emergency and hit the SOS for them? I know the rescue insurance usually only covers you, but does that mean you'll be billed for their rescue? Or would they be billed since they were the ones evacuated?

if you need minimal capabilities but no subscription, there's also SARSAT which is operated by international treaty. Basically just a beacon but better than nothing and no ongoing prices -- just need to carry a dedicated device. The sole purpose is requesting emergency Search&Rescue, and some jurisdictions will bill you afterwards, but it's pretty fascinating.

It’s worth noting apple iphone 14 is not the only mobile SOS carried. Tmobile has partnered with starlink to give every carrier SOS capabilities in dead zones

Hey Dan, speaking of SOS, I'm curious what training you did in preparation for a winter hike up 6000 feet in snow and ice. That's some serious mileage & climbing. I want to make sure I recommend people to do more training than you did. I'm sure your answer isn't zero. That'd be tomfoolery.

I would love to see more videos on this topic. For what I understand ( I might be wrong), fish and game in the whites (New Hampshire) always charges for the rescue, negligence or not, does anybody know more about that?

I’m curious about how it works when I am in an international destination or in the middle of an ocean on a sailboat facing an emergency.

You misspelled negligence. Thanks for the info. My insurance will only cover so much for out of network ambulance. Everyone needs to look into it but ultimately, what is your life worth?

There are so many people who will go well beyond their capabilities and preparations and then use the "help" button when they are simply tired. They feel Entitled to have everyone at their beck and call. People have tried to sue phone companies because they didn't have service and needed to call for help to change a flat tire. People who are completely unprepared SHOULD be charged for their own negligence.

fun fact, my ankle bracelet had a similar button and you DID get charged for pressing it 😂

my two favorite guy, Chris and Dan

Don't forget Starlink partnership with T mobile, at some point our phones will replace all these devices. And I LOVE my Garmin, its a MUST in Montana! I will say, this is not always the case where you don't pay, I believe its state by state, some charge you for search and rescue services. And its why Garmin sells extra insurance to pay for things like HELOs. Im not so sure he is correct about not paying if they send services.

Motorola makes Iridium. I used to work on the Iridium network when it was first getting started.

Encouraging self-rescue should always be encouraged. This reduces the pressure and danger placed upon backcountry search and rescue teams. Push the button if someone is in a bad way (Dan is going down. Push the button!!). Do not push the button if someone is having a tummy ache. That is the part that was not covered in this video. Know the difference between a hard exit and a potential life threatening situation.

I think there should be a disclaimer mentioning that you COULD be charged depending on local laws. I say this because Hawai’i is trying to make it to where people have to pay for their own rescues, because we have a LOT of tourists who completely ignore warning signs and no trespassing signs and end up needing a rescue, at the expense of local taxpayers, which isn’t fair, not to mention rescue workers who are risking their lives for people who could’ve and SHOULDVE easily avoided the situation.

I am confused. Other channels say you will most likely be charged, and Dixie noted that she was charged $60,000 for the helicopter rescue in Idaho, and that was most definitely a medical emergency. Unfortunately, the global rescue insurance plan suggested by Zoleo estimated my cost would be about $750 a year, which is ridiculous. I hate to throw away a perfectly good new Zoleo, but I need a plan with insurance, period.

Take-away: Be prepared, have redundancy, know how your equipment works and how to work your equipment, don’t forget the basics. Tech is amazing, but you should never solely rely on things with batteries. Map/compass, flint and steel, and most importantly… knowledge.

When i got lost and call sos it took them 3 day to find me ather recovery I got slap for medical bill for sos but medical insurance cover 20,000 and I had to pay 10,000, as 30k for copper, atv, medical van, transport from medical facilities to special hospital and treatment plus stay as recovery

If i had to pay 50k to live i would just choose to die