Chatting and charting! 😂

Happens all the time

Get out of my head.

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Me: Ok, don't be an asshole on the Internet, strangers don't need your grammar advi- "Chart's??? The chart's what? What belongs to the chart???" 🙃

That 200m number is not just how much the movie costed to produce, it's how much Apple spent in acquiring the rights to the movie, producing it, etc.

Adding to the above, I believe the real budget was $80 million

@@denxos also the cast...

@@hakujin7137 the cast is included in the production costs

Ah, okay. That certainly makes more sense@@denxos

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I avoided the trailer till seeing the movie - what in it made you roll your eyes?

I’ll bet it was the CGI cat and really obvious puns

I actually enjoyed watching the trailer more than I did in watching the damn movie simply because how well they used Elvis' song for the trailer 😂

I'd rather listen to a full version of that custom arrangement of "Suspicious Minds" than watch the movie again.

What’s the theatre?? Sounds like a plan I got to check out

Yes

Good points. I don't think "event" films = good or original films. Wonka is based on a book written in 1964. Barbie based on a toy from 1959. Oppenheimer based on an event from the 1940s. This is not exactly cutting edge original content. 🤭

That depends which studios you claim needs to be careful, because independent studios definitely rely on theaters, especially if they're banking well with per theater average numbers. When audiences over-rely too much on streaming, Indie studios will be the biggest casualty financially because streaming is not exactly a profitable method.

Nothing to do with Covid. Costs. Costs. And simply costs

@@dandansfu Covid shook up people's habits and forced them to make more thoughtful and active decisions (this is worth it, this is not worth it).

I'd say WB should be proud of this, but they can't. Barely a drop in the bucket for their profits, but as far as sequel prospects and Paul King reputation goes, those are gonna be up.

@@motherplayer All 3 Paul King movies have now grossed 4.5x their production budgets!

Greatest showman all Over again

​@@AllInTheGame01 That is what starting out as a director in excellent but low budget BBC series (Garth Marenghi's Darkplace & The Mighty Boosh) will do for you.

Family films tend to have better legs. I do wonder why there aren't more low-to-mid budget family films. They can get people in theaters during the slower times and kids will want to watch the same movie multiple times.

Digital can have a very high resolution, and it is possible to get digital to closely emulate the way film looks. Yes, actual IMAX is better, but this COULD be very good and worth it too.

I don't think that your last statement fully captures the reality last year. Murrell was on honeymoon for nearly all of November, so pretty much the entire timespan of the Marvels' run from disappointing debut to rapid death. His post-honeymoon catchup video was super long, so he could only afford to give brief mention to the box office disaster. I've also noticed that Murrell no longer does super in-depth looks at box office catastrophes like he's done in the past for films like Solo. The Flash was a disaster, yet he only spent one sentence or so offering suggestions as to why. My take has been that positing reasons for box office disasters is not an exact science and goes against the objective and fairly math-heavy nature of the show. You can't poll or interview everyone who didn't go see a film to know why they didn't go see it. As such, I suspect that he's streamlining this show to focus more on objective realities and less on theory. As far as why The Marvels bombed, I think that it's pretty simple (though, obvious caveat, this is merely my hypothesis). The Marvels features Kamala Khan and Monica Rambeau pretty heavily in its advertising (heck, it's in the title). The reality is that most people (even casual MCU movie fans) don't watch the Disney Plus shows and probably feel like it's homework to track down the relevant ones and sit through them all just to understand a single film. Even if those shows don't necessarily tie into The Marvels' plot that much, the advertising would not give that impression as it depicts Khan and Rambeau as characters that the audience should already be familiar with. It's also almost guaranteed that the MCU is no longer a guarantee of quality, so audiences are more hesitant about seeing them. This is evidenced by the declining box office returns, steep box office drop-offs, and lower Cinemascores, all post-Endgame. A lot of the MCU being on Disney Plus also likely reduces the franchise's prestige to being mere streaming content, something that evidently both Bob Iger and Patty Jenkins seem to agree on now with regard to streaming. Finally, even though it's usually pointless to argue against the trolls whom always wanted this film to fail, I think that one singular piece of evidence highlights the weakness in their "arguments": The majority of opening night audiences for both Captain Marvel films (or at least the film one) have surprisingly been majority male. I can't remember the name of the organization that gathers the demographic data though, even though Murrell's mentioned them repeatedly on this show.

I recall it being covered sufficiently on the channel before, though hard to remember exactly where. Dan's review touched on what he thought were problems in the movie, then he later did a "If I Ran Marvel" video that contained a lot more discussion about problems he saw with the modern MCU in general. I think there was also a charts segment or two with the franchise tracker and box office profit calculation that talked about it some more. That was probably late November or early December because he was on his honeymoon during the actual release.

@@Sounder1995 adding to the MCU turning streaming reason: Nick Fury is another major character in the marketing for The Marvels. His show, Secret Invasion turned out really bad. People only talked about it for the AI credits and death of a loved character. Many more probably didn’t watch it. Everything was going against the movie, regardless of its own quality.

It’s nuts to me earlier this year we talked so much about what a disappointment Honor Among Thieves was but it still outgrossed that movie.

As I said, it was to the best of my recollection. My overall point still stands.

I would feel so ripped off if I saw it in IMAX just for one scene to be IMAX-filmed. Did it at least have the IMAX aspect ratio throughout, or in the other action scenes? I think I recall Superman Returns only had one or two scenes in IMAX. Edit: Sorry, I think I'm wrong. I believe I was thinking of the 3D. There were only a few scenes in 3D.

​@@paulw858 only the opening scene got the imax expended ratio

Are any Theaters offering a double-feature with the first movie?!

I think that in the end it could be one of the biggest movie of 2024 worldwide, but I believe that an opening around 70 millions is correct, with a final US box office of 200-240 millions and a final total box office of 650-700 millions worldwide

Because of a rough pregnancy, I haven't made it to the theaters at all since last June. But we bought tickets for Dune 2. (I don't care how huge and unhappy I am, I will be there) And my husband is going to go see it with his brothers the day after. Dune 2 is event cinema, especially because of how clearly the first movie was designed for movie theaters. I know some people who watched it at home and realized their mistake immediately. I really hope it does well. I want Villeneuve to get his trilogy!

@@____uncompetative lol! it looks like it has a lot more action too

Argylle went the route of “hire as many big names as possible so we can put them on the poster”. Very expensive for no actual value.

To be clear, Argylle didn't cost $200 million, it cost $80 million according to the director, which sounds about right for a spy film with that many stars. Apple paid $200 million for the rights.

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Lol I hope you check it out. It was big dumb fun & my theater was ROARING

Yes. A mistake on my part. Caught and pointed out, as is standard.

Apple is not a big monolith. As I said, they have divisions in the company. I can promise you, they know Argylle flopped.

@@DanMurrellMovies What I mean is that this would not affect Apple as a company at all. But yes, it does put the future of these projects in jeopardy.

From last year alone: Movies I’ve seen in Premium Large Formats: IMAX: -Ant-Man 3 -Creed 3 -Suzume -Beau Is Afraid -GotG Vol. 3 -The Little Mermaid -Oppenheimer -Blue Beetle -Taylor Swift Eras Tour -The Marvels -Hunger Games: BoSS -Renaissance: Beyoncé -Godzilla Minus One -The Boy and The Heron -Aquaman 2 Dolby Cinema: -Knock At The Cabin -Magic Mike 3 -Scream 6 -65 -Shazam! 2 -John Wick 4 -Dungeons & Dragons -Super Mario Bros. Movie -Evil Dead Rise -The Covenant -SISU -Fast X -Spider-Man ATSV -Transformers: RoTB -The Flash -Elemental -Indy 5 -Mission Impossible 7 -Barbie -Haunted Mansion -Meg 2 -TMNT: Mutant Mayhem -Gran Turismo -Equalizer 3 -Nun 2 -A Haunting In Venice -Expendables 4 -Saw X -The Creator -Exorcist Believer -Killers Of The Flower Moon -Five Nights at Freddy’s -Trolls 3 -Napoleon -Wish -Poor Things -Wonka -The Color Purple -The Iron Claw -Ferrari PRIME: -M3GAN -Plane -Missing -Cocaine Bear -Air -The Pope’s Exorcist -Renfield -AYTG: IM, Margaret -Big George Foreman -Book Club 2 -Boogeyman -Asteroid City -Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken -Sound Of Freedom -Insidious 5 -Talk to Me -MBFGW 3 -Dumb Money -Paw Patrol Movie 2 -Dicks: Musical -The Holdovers -Priscilla -Thanksgiving -Saltburn -Silent Night -Dream Scenario -The Boys in the Boat -The Zone Of Interest -Origin Everything else I saw at a regular theater.

As I mentioned, Apple has had a lot of critical hits, but Ted Lasso has been the only one so far with real mass appeal.

Napoleon just plain wasn't good. Flower Moon *might* have pulled in a little more with a shorter cut, but given the subject material I don't think it would have been enough to make money.

This critic gave it a rotten for reasons entirely unrelated to Henry Cavill and Dua Lipa.

But KZfaq was an almost instant success. It proved itself to be a revolutionary video platform. It was obvious that it would be a massive revenue generator. Apple TV+ is now over four years old. It's not, by almost every account, a major player in streaming other than generating well-regarded but low-viewed streaming shows. The hits like Ted Lasso are few and far between. I understand that every major venture runs at a loss for a time. My point is that Apple is bound to reach a point where massive investment isn't a sound strategy anymore if it's not seeing results from that strategy.

Many times that's the case but I think enthusiasm for Hunger Games (and YA films in general) had largely petered out by the time the final movie came out.

Part 1 was not well received. It was during a time when people were sick of seeing the final movie in a franchise split into two.

Here's the top 5 highest opening weekends for a horror film directed by a woman domesticlly. 1: Five Nights at Freddy's 2: Candyman 3: Carrie (2013) 4: The Bye Bye Man 5: Silent Hill: Revelations (Similar to The Matrix Reloaded when it comes to R-rated movies) 5/6: The Invitation (2022)