Holy moly. Your shirt has one hell of a frequency response.
@stefanschuchardt57343 жыл бұрын
Yes but the waterfall diagram looks pretty neat!
@johnsweda29993 жыл бұрын
Crazy like his frequency measurements lol
@yuckysamson3 жыл бұрын
I like to call it "the zebra special".
@BrentLeVasseur3 жыл бұрын
Danny is really a shape shifting reptilian in disguise and that’s just his cloaking shield which is having issues with the camera shutter frequency.
@s.t.e.r.e.o.3 жыл бұрын
Yes off access it's insane...
@riknos32893 жыл бұрын
*singing* When your shit's full of lines and makes your camera cry, that's a moiré
@joeygonzo3 жыл бұрын
shirt's
@maddogfargo31533 жыл бұрын
De-screening isn't just for tweeters. :)
@richardmanning40903 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@KeenAesthetic13 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@TheMirolab3 жыл бұрын
This Tannoy looks like a MkI version of their DMT monitor from the 80's-90's. In the first versions with 8,10,12 inch drivers, the woofers had a matte texture. For the DMT-II versions in the 90's, they changed to a lighter plastic cone material that was glossy, and these sound better than the first versions. For over 20 years, I've owned a pair of System 15's which have a 15" paper cone. I'd love for them to get the GR treatment, but they are big and heavy. (but only half as big as the monsters behind him!) IF you are ever considering buying a used pair of Tannoy System ## monitors, beware that many listers list them as DMT2's, when half the time it's actually an earlier DMT model. I see this often on Ebay. The seller either doesn't know any better, or is trying to get more $$ for them. Make sure you know what it is you're really buying. They are actually really fun speakers....
@henrym782 жыл бұрын
What is the difference in sound quality between the finishes?
@sux2bu8832 жыл бұрын
@@henrym78 I know. I would love to hear a demo of before and after.
@TheMirolab Жыл бұрын
@@henrym78 I've never heard them side by side, but the DMT-II's have a slightly higher sensitivity, and with a lighter cone material, I can only assume they will sound more dynamic. The tweeters are the same, as they use the same replacement diaphragm.
@aussie_philosopher80793 жыл бұрын
Back with ya danny. The fact you got a few decades of experience is enough for people to trust that your upgrades will sound great and be of good quality.
@vcp933 жыл бұрын
Great video, but where can I find me one of those "trippy" shirts? 🤯
@glenncurry30413 жыл бұрын
Part of the Moiré collection.
@vcp933 жыл бұрын
@@chanslorvalorum6905 Oh good.... So I wasn't the only one seeing that. 🤯
@koprcord53383 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my 80s vision skateboard.
@9mmmike6423 жыл бұрын
Vision Psycho Stick!
@sean_heisler3 жыл бұрын
@@koprcord5338 😂😂😂 The Original Vision and Vision Gator boards!
@joeg35363 жыл бұрын
Danny is conditioning our brains to get use to waterfall plots!
@chrisbarnhart79443 жыл бұрын
I just watched it backwards and Satan appeared in his shirt... scared the HELL out of me....
@fredfungalspore3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean Natas...😄😆
@jamesrobinson91763 жыл бұрын
You win the internet today! Good comment ☺
@davidcross69903 жыл бұрын
Loving your shirt Danny! But seriously, Tannoy engineered great drivers, but always put a choker chain on them with their crossovers and some of their old cabinets. My set of drivers are now direct on individual amps and digital crossovers
@ujean563 жыл бұрын
Wow - Danny - that shirt actually vibrates - cool!
@Super8Rescue11 ай бұрын
I have a pair of DMT10's since they were new. They used to be in a studio but these days they are in my home with the technics 1210. Best speakers I have ever owned. Next year I give them to my nephew as I retire abroad.
@daviddarmanin21888 ай бұрын
Wish we had someone as capable as you, with the same passion for speaking improvements in Australia
@nelk55303 жыл бұрын
you need to put some of that NoRez on that shirt.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph21203 жыл бұрын
Thanks Danny , I got my The NoRez in the mail last week been covering the KEF-Q100s internal cabneits smartly ! I even got the cutout perfect on the bottom of cabneits trimmed around the port tube 😃 Perfectly ! I am even building a Wood Rod-brace in the middle of cabneit that the back of the drivers magnet will push up against to brace the driver down even better !
@stephenyoud6125 Жыл бұрын
How did your improvements sound afterwrds?
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Жыл бұрын
@stephenyoud6125 cleaner bass ' better depth to the Soundstage due to non noise cabneit I should have already bought Danny Kit if I had enough subscriber's who own the speaker I will do it ' I will mention I my neared video ' maybe Danny can trade me for a bran new never used still in factory box Polk lsim 703 lol
@stephenyoud6125 Жыл бұрын
@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 I found something like No Rez in Switzerland near where I live snd lined all my Linn home Cinema speakers with it while I was upgrading their crossovers
@nonsuch3 жыл бұрын
Tannoy made/makes some of the best nearfield monitors. I have a pair of Ellipse 8's that I've slightly modified to use an outboard 3-way crossover and I tri-amp each speaker. They were great before but, a touch midrange heavy. Now they are perfect and much "clearer".
@veroman0073 жыл бұрын
had a flashback with your shirt danny. i am always appalled at how poorly designed high end speakers are produced by companies with good credentials. glad i got elacs, i know they did the work upfront..
@TheMirolab3 жыл бұрын
Danny..... These tweeters have ferrofluid in them, but after 20+ years, it will be dry and gummy. The tweeters need to be opened up, cleaned, and have the ferrofluid re-applied into the gap. I've done this a couple times myself on System 12's and 15's. Obviously the ferrofluid changes the tweeter characteristics, and should be addressed before redesigning the crossover. Have you considered this??
@thxepsilon82923 жыл бұрын
I'd like to do that with my DMT's, would love to get a reference on how to do that. I've thought about sending mine in for Danny to take a look at them but it's a long way from SoCal to Texas!
@Aswaguespack3 жыл бұрын
Materials that were top of the line 30 years ago, through natural aging processes of temperature and humidity swings, heavy usage and periods of little or no use can change the physical and electrical characteristics of wiring and components. That’s why using newer contemporary quality parts and upgrading wiring will make very audible improvements in the quality of the output. Great Stuff here. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@glenncurry30413 жыл бұрын
Love your shirt from the Moiré collection.
@MichaelThompson-gy8pz3 жыл бұрын
That shirt is better than acid.
@MrSwedjen3 жыл бұрын
Acid? Yes. Mushrooms? No.
@scottskillman3 жыл бұрын
Danny needs a "Caution!, Mullet in progress!" warning.
@MichelLinschoten3 жыл бұрын
That dude has the worst hair styles 🤣
@939Productions3 жыл бұрын
Danny's T-shirt vs The Camera! Who will win????? The Shirt. The shirt beat the sh*t out off that poor camera. That camera will never be the same. His lens will leave him now and his SD cards won't talk to him anymore.
@histubeness3 жыл бұрын
Polo shirt, not T.
@cabronesse3863 жыл бұрын
Coming here to read those Polo Shirt comments! Hahahaha
@martybousum10103 жыл бұрын
Glad you're swinging for the fence. People are taking notice!
@peterpixo3 жыл бұрын
I would love to send you a pair of vintage TESLA speakers, made in Czechoslovakia :) They sell super cheap, have tremendous value for how capable they are, and some big issues that DIY fans trying to address for decades.
@yuckysamson3 жыл бұрын
Finally. The danny Tannoy mind meld. Now can someone please get Danny a 15" monitor gold or hpd so we can finally put to bed what will or will not make a better vintage Tannoy crossover?? Come in hive mind. Let's do this.
@merlingarnett36133 жыл бұрын
+1 for a hpd network
@electrafixion713 жыл бұрын
@@merlingarnett3613 +1 for a GR Research designed x-over for Tannoy HPD drivers.
@tonydeniro2843 жыл бұрын
Keep your hands off my tannoy legacy eatons....I like them just the way they are...beautiful speakers
@pimianimavdo15233 жыл бұрын
I'm no drug expert (I dont even take anything more than 1 coffee per day) but Man, oh Man... That shirt is truly Trippy! ;)
@koprcord53383 жыл бұрын
I had a leopard print skateboard in the 80s that would go great with that shirt.
@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc77483 жыл бұрын
Damn, the t-shirt is alive.
@gitech74503 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always Danny! I'll have a project for you in about 6 months. 'Cus I'll have to drive them down to you from New York! :) Cheers 🍻 PS: Your shirt was hypnotising lol
@morayjames923 жыл бұрын
would love to see you do a check up on the Tannoy Revolution Series XT Mini and the XT6 both stand mount speakers. Thanks.
@lancekimmons94102 жыл бұрын
I had a pair of xt6 that I measured. They were sharp in the presence region and not super smooth. They did some things well.
@Novilicious3 жыл бұрын
May I ask you to dissect a Atlantic technology speaker? I think there’s a lot of snake oil in this trade and you are very good at debunking which brands actually put in the effort and proper components and which brands don’t! Just an idea for you! Thanks and keep up the great work!
@JAMPROSOUND7 ай бұрын
I've used my System 600's for years. The lack of top end and the mid range weirdness took a while to adjust to. I now have the gear to modify them and run full, two-way active with dsp and wonder how much I might be able to correct. Have you ever worked a set of the smaller System 600's?
@dksculpture3 жыл бұрын
Nice work! Your shirt's moire effect is off the charts though.
@robertthurston68583 жыл бұрын
Will you do a video on Big Tannoy's crossover rebuild ?
@dannyrichie97433 жыл бұрын
I probably will.
@gdwlaw55493 жыл бұрын
I want a T-shirt upgrade too….
@anoxicfiltrationplenums3 жыл бұрын
That shirt is so 1960s I thought I was at Woodstock for a minute.
@audio_acoustic_engineering3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you measure and design for a filter for the newest Legacy series Tannoy Arden. Shipping from 🇨🇦may be an issue. Did you remove the Tannoy Autoformer?
@yuckysamson3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@electrafixion713 жыл бұрын
I don't believe Tannoy used an autoformer in the System 10, they are only used in the larger more expensive models. I'm looking forward to hearing Danny's take on the crossover in the bigger model as the autoformer goes hand in hand with the various adjustments he mentioned.
@yuckysamson3 жыл бұрын
@@electrafixion71 No, but they do use an adjustable crossover (with options for both roll-off and energy) in the Ardens which is what the OP decided to ask about when this thread was started. That is what would be interesting.
@electrafixion713 жыл бұрын
@@yuckysamson The OP is my friend, he owns my old Arden Legacy speakers. I said the I don't think the System series used autoformers, but I know for sure that all of the "big" dual concentrics use them including vintage and current Ardens. Even the DC10A model I have now has an autoformer despite the fact they don't have HF energy or roll-off adjustments.
@yuckysamson3 жыл бұрын
@@electrafixion71 then we agree--it would be good to see what Danny would do for some of the classic large Tannoys and some of the newer offerings.
@wenc87963 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing something like Kenrick (Japanese co.) modding JBL speakers or even Tannoy for higher end market? Look them up on KZfaq. Their molded JBL speakers sound great and retain value very well.
@rickg80153 жыл бұрын
I hope someone brings in a pair of Tannoy XT8F.. Those have a lytic for the woofer.. I own a pair, they sound great and measure well, but curious what you could do for them..
@jeffsmith41102 жыл бұрын
The moire of your shirt was entertaining!
@djclabbe883 жыл бұрын
Cool! I wonder if the dual concentric speaker is the same in my Tannoy Saturn 10? It's the 10" coax + a 10" woofer in the S10. Still a 2-way speaker. Tried to bi-amp it once but it was just tweeter and 2 woofers.. Maybe the same crossover layout would work? The best maybe would be to make a real 3-way crossover..
@glansslapstick27063 жыл бұрын
hi Danny, thanks for the episode. please confirm: "from the factory" measurements are your initial measurements or the specification? also, were the ports plugged or open during your measurements? Tannoy produced at least 2 different versions & *reduced* the size of the ports for at least some of the series (I own System 8Mk2 with smaller ports, unplugged). I suppose this reduced woofer overhang when ports were unplugged. I'm of the understanding that all older tweeters with ferro-fluid cooling have reduced HF performance as they age & the fluid should be carefully removed & replaced to return them to to their original spec. I believe the Tannoy tweeter in your test is showing signs of aging & was originally spec'd -3db @ 25Khz if you ever test & perform the same mod on System 8Mk2's, I'm certainly interested in the upgrade. enjoying the KZfaq episodes greatly. thanks again.
@lloydfranks13572 жыл бұрын
I am with you guys that shirt is very kool!!
@OHMAudioChannel3 жыл бұрын
Looked like your measurements were with the port plugs still in. Did you happen to see how it performed with the ports open?
@Smoovindecat3 жыл бұрын
Hi Danny I wondered if the bad build quality is the same with monitors like the Yamaha hs5 or krk rokit 5 for example? Or is it any better because it’s for studio use? Great channel 👍
@spidey27213 жыл бұрын
Waiting eagerly on that klipsch rp-500m video.
@gino3286 Жыл бұрын
Hi thank you very much for your always excellent videos. I am surprised that a speaker meant for a recording studio (this is my guess) is not very well optimized More than surprised actually Quite shocked I wonder if they assume that the recording engineers equalize their speakers any way in their studios I do not know how much popular is EQ in recording studios Thanks a lot, gino
@robertthurston68583 жыл бұрын
I suppose this why Tannoy started using super tweeters as an option ?
@markushillemalm3 жыл бұрын
Hello hey Sweden watching. Must say that I love your videos. I have a pair of German Quadral speakers, Quadral Chromium Style 100, to be exact. Nice ribbon tweeter on these. Loved to see if you could fix up some of these some time. Thanks and have a nice day.
@alap43813 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I won a Tannoy Cheviot vintage. I'ld like to upgrade the xo and buy kits from you. If you please make some video on Tannoy Cheviot that will be great.
@sean_heisler3 жыл бұрын
I hate to break it to you but I think you've got a bad case of Spectral Decay, Danny.
@nicolasvincens70183 жыл бұрын
Many fixes move the cross over point lower, but we never get to see the distortion before/after modification. Maybe that is something you could add? I'd be concerned about strain on the tweeter or not being able to play loud.
@paulb46613 жыл бұрын
Distortion plots obtained for sine wave reproduction do not reflect speaker's behaviour when playing music, most speakers' impulse response falls far short of what one would expect and don't even try to reproduce a squarewave accurately. Distortion figures for speakers generally start at 20-50% at the lower end of the spectrum before gradually reaching to between 1 and 0.1% higher up for best examples. Higher order crossover placed at a lower frequency will cause less excitation of the tweeter near its fundamental resonance frequency than a 1st order crossing higher up, for example, hence offer higher SPL capability.
@nicolasvincens70183 жыл бұрын
And some tweeters have distortion above 1-5% even a good octave above their resonant frequency, ~2kHz so no, it is not only about resonant frequency/excursion. As for the impulse, it would be nice to see it indeed, which is more determined by cross over point, slope, and integration with midwoofer.
@johndavidson5075 Жыл бұрын
How come you never tackled the bigger FSM model in a video?
@dannyrichie974310 ай бұрын
Oh, I did. It was transformed into a usable speaker.
@jaguilar1013 жыл бұрын
LSD is kicking in
@jeffkalina77273 жыл бұрын
So they punish you for upgrading your dress. It was a bit strobey. Good to see you working on the Fine Studio Monitors or FSMs.
@donar313373 жыл бұрын
Can you also checkout a Tanning CPA12 ? And did you ever look at Genelec speakers, they are great.
@mikewhite2482 жыл бұрын
Danny looks like an old Ken doll
@bartvanransbeeck1341 Жыл бұрын
Great job , congratz
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt3 жыл бұрын
The spectral decay is definitely much improved but it's still not great.
@switch96551 Жыл бұрын
Doesnt the impedance rise only matter realy if you were playing that specific frequancy? music is constant overlayed frequencies and therefore the amp would be loaded down anyways?
@cebedojames3 жыл бұрын
The Moire on your shirt looks like spectral decay
@chriswelljack49103 жыл бұрын
I would like to see an emotiva airmotiv t1 or t2 on that table
@createachanneltopost3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done any Acoustic Research speakers? I have some old AR-91 speakers, which have many switches and unnecessary parts in the crossover.
@Johnny-Too-Bad3 жыл бұрын
How's that third party speaker cable A/B/X test you promised going?
@saiprasad80783 жыл бұрын
LSD TSHIRT all memories coming back to me
@histubeness3 жыл бұрын
Polo shirt.
@scottmichaels17643 жыл бұрын
Seems like a huge improvement. How did the new network bring that impedance inline?
@dannyrichie97433 жыл бұрын
impedance is pretty easy to manipulate.
@turiddu93 жыл бұрын
Bro!!!! This video's starting to make me high!
@daddylonglegs201010 ай бұрын
Hi Danny. Your thoughts on Bi-amping and Crossover upgrades for Tannoy 611 MkII's please. :)
@dannyrichie974310 ай бұрын
Send one in and I'll take a look at it.
@daddylonglegs201010 ай бұрын
If only I lived in the US lol :) @@dannyrichie9743
@oluhamilton21212 жыл бұрын
Do you think Triangle genese trios can be upgraded, and WOULD you?
@paw453 жыл бұрын
The shirt is far out man. 😎
@labalo53 жыл бұрын
But but but those measurements guys say….!! LoL. Good work Danny!
@neilalf1473 ай бұрын
i bet you measure a coaxel speaker on asis?
@wedsg3 жыл бұрын
I see you fix many crossovers by just crossing the hf driver lower than it originally was, which in itself is often beneficial in many cases, yes, except that not many tweeters and cd can go as low without distorting a lot. Plus if FS of a tweeter is higher than your crossover point then that is a pretty good sign not to cross it that low...This one seems to have over 2.5khz fs and you get it to play up to 1.5khz...Did you do any distortion measurements before and after at decent sound levels?
@dannyrichie97433 жыл бұрын
The Fs on that tweeter is much lower than that. And it is almost impossible to get any real accurate distortion measurements outside of an anechoic chamber. Plus distortion is not all that linear. It will vary with output levels. So those measurements really don't tell you much.
@seanjoell3 жыл бұрын
COOLEST SHIRT ON THE NET...! BTW enjoyed the video.
@markclancy53713 жыл бұрын
1 question why do we want a flat frequency response.when anyone over the age 35 will start to lose more and more frequencies in our hearing specially high frequency! wouldn't it be better to keep high frequency slightly high to compensate ??
@markclancy53713 жыл бұрын
@@r423sdex true! your not goin to hear them anyway.so is there any value in adding components to flatten the curve?I'm interested in knowing.
@klubstompers3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, couldn't hear you, that shirt was too loud.
@nicomodesto52822 жыл бұрын
Anyone that can clone a tannoy st300 super tweeter? Gr research will sell tons of it, did you see the price of that ?! Also I will fire it up to the roof as you explain in your video .
@marztube61583 жыл бұрын
"Get me an Old Priest and get me a young priest", that shirt needs an exorcism
@Joshualbm3 жыл бұрын
Have you worked on the Yamaha NS1000 speakers?
@fredfungalspore3 жыл бұрын
Your signal path between yourself and your camera needs some attention buddy . Try updating your Shutter motion blur crossover that would be a start....😆😎
@rothgartheviking8583 жыл бұрын
could be a candidate for a super tweeter
@jeffsloane86283 жыл бұрын
Whoah. Doppler Effect Shirt. So cool! Can you ware your comb filter effect shirt in the next video? :-)
@andrewallison703 жыл бұрын
I know its probably been said before, but how can these companies put out speakers that cost thousands with such crap measurements, and poor quality crossovers, especially with the likes of Tannoy that pride themselves decades of heritage and experience. Then you got the likes of this channel they can completely redesign the crossover and make the best out of the drivers and speaker cabinets? It just seems so many of these manufactures are taking the buyers for mugs and if you want the 'better' sound you are going to pay through the nose for it.
@freenational3 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Tannoy needs a supertweeter.
@1Uriahheep13 жыл бұрын
Hey riknos3289. You beat me to it. I suppose you meant shirt, right?
@Ricky-cl5bu3 жыл бұрын
I’m from Ireland that’s a bit far need new crossover for my JBL 4367
@markwilding38283 жыл бұрын
Danny is wearing the shirt to demonstrate the aliasing effects that are happening to your music if you listen to digital.
@walterprasek11473 жыл бұрын
Walt Prasek hey danny have you ever done imf transmission line monitors
@dannyrichie97433 жыл бұрын
We have a kit that is a transmission line design.
@frankotte36133 жыл бұрын
Shirt reminiscent of Predator-First Contact
@stephenclark52183 жыл бұрын
Hi Danny, In closing you mention atc woofer replacement on a pair of atc, faulty or abuse?
@dannyrichie97433 жыл бұрын
I saw no signs of abuse, and that tweeter would fry long before the woofer. That woofer is a bruit.
@christopherjackson89583 жыл бұрын
Please please do Ditton 66!
@zackpetrovic30293 жыл бұрын
I thought it was me watching in 360P and my monitor doesn't like red colours, but other people see it
@ac810173 жыл бұрын
I've just bought new crossovers for my FSM.
@mikewhite2482 жыл бұрын
We're didyou get them
@mikewhite2482 жыл бұрын
I have a pair looking to upgrade also
@ac810172 жыл бұрын
@@mikewhite248 Bought them from a friend here in Sweden
@staLkerhu3 жыл бұрын
Jesus Price, that moire! 😮 My eyes are bleeding! 🤣
@fredfungalspore3 жыл бұрын
Lol. It's looking at the time tunnel I'm getting dizzy 😅
@markfischer36263 жыл бұрын
When you look at these speakers, some very expensive, look at how cheaply they're made, their cabinets, their drivers, their crossover networks, how poorly they perform, and then you look at the accolades in the magazine reviews and the prices makes my head spin. The same with other so called high end audio equipment. The designs for high end amplifiers and preamplifiers have been around for decades. Except for coupling capacitors little has changed. They've been tweaked to what the designer likes but that's about the only difference. The speaker systems use kludgy crossover networks that are designed to sound the way the designer wanted them to sound without any consideration for the fact that they create impossible electrical loads to anything less than very expensive amplifiers. Those amplifiers don't perform with real world loads the way they do on a test bench with 4 and 8 ohm resistors. I'm not an audiophile, I'm an engineer. I have a critical musical ear. I study, model, can measure, and engineer sound fields. In this approach the acoustics of the listening room is an integral part of the system. It can be your worst enemy or your best friend. Realizing that there are going to be reflections you hear I re-engineered all of my speakers to create the kinds of reflections musical instruments would make. Nobody does this, engineer the speaker to adapt to the room. So called room correction by itself doesn't work. Time and space averaged in room frequency response doesn't work. The best two channel stereo can do is recreate the sound of acoustic instruments as they would be heard in your listening room but these designs can't even come close to doing that. Recreating the sound field of concert venues is orders of magnitude more complicated and difficult. That's far beyond the current state of the art. I enjoy watching your videos fixing some of the more obvious and ruinous mistakes within the limited context of how loudspeaker designs are viewed today. At least they get better than what the manufacturer sold them. I'm not sure what the design goals are anymore or whether or not those people are just deaf.
@markfischer36263 жыл бұрын
@@r423sdex In my view as an engineer who has studied and solved this problem nobody in this industry knows anything when it comes to sound, acoustics, and hearing. Those things that work, amplifiers and preamplifiers were solved decades ago at far lower cost. The rest has gone nowhere except for the invention of the digital compact disc, a remarkable achievement whether you like how recording engineers use them or not. Study the way acoustic instruments launch sound into space. Then study how loudspeakers launch sound into space. Think about how the room affect them before they reach your ears. They are so different that it's no wonder it's a failure. All of these designs IMO stink. They are all created to the same conceptual paradigm no matter how they are executed. The sound fields they create are badly distorted in time and space. That is why it's so easy to tell a recording from live music in the same room. Creating something better requires starting from scratch and rethinking the process. However, given what most people use them for and how satisfied they are with them, they're good enough for them. Not nearly good enough for me. Nevertheless I still enjoy watching these videos and seeing what these speakers really measure like compared to the BS measurements in the magazines that give them endless unwarranted accolades. They are also far too expensive for what you get.
@obscurazone11 ай бұрын
Fascinating stuff, and although I'm not an engineer, I couldn't agree more with your two posts here. It's simply a pointless and futile exercise, designing and selling hifi, when the main limiting factor will ALWAYS be the space in which the audio is played - an impossible factor to design for, irrespective of how automatic room correction is being touted these days. There is also the other elephant in the room that is never discussed, and that is simply our hearing health. If we don't have particularly good hearing, either simply through age or because of tinnitus etc, it doesn't matter how much money you throw at hifi equipment, none of it will meet your expectations. Do you have any thoughts on how we could approach the design of sound transmission going forward? How might we start designing a system that begins with the room as the speaker cabinet? (For example).
@markfischer362611 ай бұрын
@@obscurazone From the time I first heard stereophonic sound when I was 12 years old until the time I built and was bitterly disappointed in the overhyped quadraphonic sound system when I was 25 years old, I was an audiophile just like the rest of you. I believed everything the audiophiles of the day believed. It was just a hobby for me, my career took me elsewhere. Totally disgusted and fed up with the hi fi industry I decided to see what I could do myself. I started from scratch throwing everything I thought I knew away and started using my analytical skills in science and engineering my superb and hard won knowledge my superb education had given me. I started by thinking about the way sound is propagated into space and how live venues like concert halls affected them before they reached my ears. I put it out of my conscious mind but my subconscious mind was working on it. Then one day a few weeks later I had an AHA moment. My subconscious mind figured it out and handed it to my conscious mind. It was startling. I understood the problem and the solution completely. And the solution was impossibly complex, far to complex to be put to practical use. This was as an exact science. However, I decided to pare down the idea to its essentials and adapt it for commercial recordings to see whether I could get any improvement at all. And my first attempt achieved results that surprised me. It was complicated but manageable. I demonstrated it to a patent attorney and as a result I received a US patent about 5 years later. I'm a much better engineer than a salesman. Nobody was interested in it. There was an infringement on a critical part of my patent. I contacted the manufacture having bought his product and after my warning he never made another one like it. Obviously I can't tell you what that product is. Starting in 2002 I began building a second prototype around his product. It had a couple of inherent problems that made it less than optimal. It took me several years to figure out what they were and how to fix them. The system has been tweaked and retweaked for these last 21 years with few minor changes except for the added signal processing power. The room itself is an integral and indispensable component part of the system. It's used as a reflector and diffuser. The principle it works on is quite straightforward. It has to accomplish two things. First it has to get the system to have flat frequency response of the first arriving sound starting with the recording microphone and ending at your ears. Second, it has to generate and propagate the signal in such a way as to have the same relationship to the first arriving sound as the reflections from a large venue reaching your ears has to the sound from the musical instruments themselves. In short it does the same thing the large venue does but it does it a different way. This is all based on a mathematical model that is the crux of the invention. The parameters have to be adjusted one time for the room and then for each recording depending on how it was made and what is suitable for the genre of music being heard. Its current goal is to equal or beat the best sound at the best live performance venues at their own game. And it works. And it cost only about $3000 having purchased a lot of the equipment used or at a substantial discount. The usual way audiophiles judge the performance of equipment doesn't apply in this case.
@davidmorgen45582 жыл бұрын
In this case I wouldnt take his word for it?
@Ptskillz2 жыл бұрын
will it work on the system 12?
@raidendigital10033 жыл бұрын
Next time Danny will wear a plain white T-Shirt with the phrase; "Go ahead, make a KZfaq comment about my T-Shirt". Oooh! I should have one made up just to wear and confuse everyone who didn't see this video. Print all that on the shirt too I guess.
@petez46083 жыл бұрын
What are better, the system 10’s or 12’s? I know there is simply a size difference... any thoughts?
@TheMirolab Жыл бұрын
I had System 12's (rev1) and still have System 15 DMT-II's, and can tell you the 15's are far better than the 12's, but they are much larger, and have paper cone vs. plastic on the smaller ones. I would go for the 12's over the 10's if you have the space, and much favor the DMT-II version.
@petez4608 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMirolab thank you. Do they all have a classic Tannoy sound?
@theoriginaldanalogue Жыл бұрын
Depends on what you’re after. I have 10” nfm ii and I always felt that size was the sweet spot and had a nice mid range. They need space to breathe. I’ve recently had to move my studio space into a smaller room and I’m not getting the best out of my speakers now. Mid range dips. Booming bass. I might have to sell them :(