now I understand and overstand

...Or as Richard Hammond says: Understeer works like this, you turn the corner, but the car goes straight on, crashes into a tree and you die. Oversteer works like this, you're driving along the same piece of road, but the back of the car comes round, crashes into a tree and you die. Now, oversteer is best because you don't see the tree that kills you.

I feel like this is a topic I already know about but I clicked the video just incase there's something I don't know about. Love the videos.

Your clarity and precision in explaining is delightful

Being a fan of Danny Lee is like being a fan of racing before cars were invented P.s: love the educational content

As a straight American male, I am very attracted to your voice.

Thanks Danny. Although I'm on PS5 & don't play iRacing, just ACC & GT7, your training videos have taught me so much. It's appreciated. Thanks again.

After watching two videos of your channel I have to say as a rookie simracer, there is no way around of subscribing to your channel 🤗🙂🙃. Such much love to detail in this video. Easy explaination with easy visualization. And no overwelming the viewer with hard cuts and too fast speaking or distracting music. BR Timo

Sir you are like the house of wisdom for sim racing. Thx to you I am getting better and better and can learn from previous mistakes! Thank you so much, please keep up the good work!! 🙏👍👍

Your explanation was excellent; I now have a much better understanding of bias systems. I will definitely apply what I’ve learned. Thank you for the great video

Brilliant stuff Danny! Another great informative video! I’ll be sending many people here as reference! I think it’s the best breakdown of this concept that I’ve seen and the best examples provided imaginable! The work and effort put into this video did not go unappreciated! Even though I already knew everything you talked about it was a great watch anyway. Only thing is in the beginning when you mentioned that bad driving is not under/oversteer “it’s you”. It is still understeer and oversteer even if it’s to an extreme degree. Still a brilliant video and I think the best on KZfaq! Thanks for your hard work Danny!

Your videos are always great Danny, well done and very informative for the up and coming racers out there.

Way more interesting and detailed than I expected on this topic. Thank you!

This is like the Bill Nye the science guy stuff for sim driving tips. This is golden material and can be easily digested by all levels of sim drivers.

Good video. On the other hand, I do have the Trubrake mod and Axcsim mod for the gas pedal for logitech pedals. They are great. No paid ad, just a satisfied customer. 😅

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Your explanation is great so simplified and easy to understand. Now to take to the track.

Great guide! I'd like to say that AXC Sim is absolutely legit! I bough the TrueBreak mod as well as new potentiometers a year ago and they completely changed my pedals for the better, they're easy to install too!!

I developed an instinct to balance the weight of the car in sim racing before learning the theory. Thanks for the video. Now I know that I'm doing it right.

Their are other variables involved, such as worn tires or rain conditions. Going into a turn with to high a gear. Down shifting helps as well.

Great video. Very informative 👍

Ever since i got into racing games i never understood exactly what is the reason why i spin out. This video helped me understand thank you so much

You said in the video that you were not a set up guru lol but the way you simplified the concepts in the video was very helpful, great video!

So I play Forza Motorsport because of its blind driving assists. I struggle to drive rear wheel drive cars, and I finally understand why. I always chalked it up to traction loss, which I guess it was, but from what this video implies, I'm using too much throttle, causing the back end to lose grip. Front wheel and all wheel drive cars though, drive really well for me.

There's something about learning and then applying it to something you love doing.

This video was just about oversteer and understeer but the bit at the end about setups just opened up a whole load of understanding about it. That was a such a small portion of the video, but that opened up so much for me. I have a local GR86 cup in my country next week and I'm definitely using this information to figure out how to set up my car. It's only my second race ever since I got my MOZA R5 and setup was always a mystery to me. Awesome video. Too bad i can't give you a new subscription since I've already subscribed about 2 years ago 🤣

I’m glade I found this channel. I’m able to think about different things now when I’m racing. Thanks Danny 👍🏽 Love your content. The way you explain everything is great 😊

Danny I appreciate the work you put into your explanations. Very good writing m8.

Brilliant explanation - thank you!

Wow man, superb explanation! What I really liked best was your usage of the camera angles and such - outstanding! I try to use it as much as possible for my own videos and I definitely learned a few more things about it now. By the way, if you wanna shrink the iracing watermark, just hit ctrl+pgdwn or up in order to de- or increase the ui size while recording.

3:14 this graphic is very helpful

Nice advices! Thanks from Uruguay 🇺🇾

Great video, felt like it was a paid lesson it was that good, just had to subscribe, felt it was only fair for the content provided. Cant wait to go through your other guides!

The Porsche are the baddies when it comes to understeering and oversteering seemingly in the same corner. At least in ACC.

Love the visuals

just over 6 mins in and i already know the point of this video. no need fit the rest. Im omw to find out if i prefer salt or pepper with my electrucity🤣.. Good videos.

You should've mentioned the differential. It tends to lock up under full throttle, producing understeer

At 0:10 and 1:30ish, you park that car on the apex. Nice control 😀

Wonderful and informative video Danny, muchos apprecianos!!

Just started sim racing so obviously started with forza horizon😂😂. Just getting to grips with my g923 and seat. This video has been amazing for my confidence

In the words of the great Richard petty “understeer is whe the front of the car hits the wall, oversteer is when the back of the car hits the wall”

i keep having oveersteer moments on acceleration with the amg evo in slow corners . so thankyou that nhelped me loads

Very helpful, thanks.

Thank you for excellent content that helps us :)

Tip of the teabag is one of the most british things i have ever heard! 🤣

First, this video was exceptionally efficient and explaining what exactly over/steer is. You really have a way with words when it comes to teaching. Second, I have the Logitech wheel and pedal set and I bought the true brake mod a while back and it was a game changer. It makes my brake feel so good and realistic that I’m not all worried about upgrading my petals anytime soon. Admittedly the wheel leaves a lot to be desired but the pedals are fine.

The separation of rotation to the front and stability to the rear is a good intermediate explanation, but it has flaws. Rotation comes from a torque applied to something. In a car, this torque comes from the force of each tire times its leaver to the center of mass. This gets quite obvious if you play with trail braking and let the rear step out under braking. You can get the same rotation or spin by adding more angles to the tires with the steering wheel or getting harder on the brakes. You can also understeer while braking if you load the front tire too much. That happens when the front axle toes in under load and how road cars balance tire life vs safety. Speaking of the main parameter for stability besides load is the toe. The more toe you have the more stability you get from that axle, but you lose rotation. That's quite obvious for the rear axle. With more toe the rear tires are facing more towards the center of the car. So the longitudinal forces of the tire get a smaller lever to rotate the car. On the front, it`s more difficult. The outside tire of the corner gets a better leaver, but the inside tire gets worse. Unless you fully unload the inside tire that also gives stability at the cost of rotation. That's what makes the highspeed corners in Spa or at the Nürburgring Nordschleife so tricky. At Schwedenkreuz Nordschleife you completely unload the inside front tire so you need a loaded rear to make the corner. At Radillion Spa you unload the left side, into a huge compression as well as load the left, and then unload the left again. This variation of stability makes the corner really tricky and you need to have a precise line through it. If you want to play around with this try harder or softer springs with lower or higher ride height. So the effective ride height stays about the same. A softer axle will toe in more when you load it, and a harder axle will toe in less. In conjunction with your driving style that's how you tackle over or understeer in specific parts of the corner. With a stable car, you can use more trail braking and start getting on the throttle earlier. With a more pointy car, you need to stay straighter while braking or accelerating and coast mid-corner for longer. Both styles can max out a tire's grip but they require different lines and techniques.

thank you alot, this was my issue

Wow, Logitech brake upgrade. Thanks my dude, affiliate link it is. 3rd video in and I've clicked to subscribe. Envisioning a back bumper livery saying Logitech G29 as I pass a $1k Fanatec user!!!

This information could help me in real life. When I crashed with my car that just had new front wheels. Causing it to oversteer and it was very very scary. Luckily nobody died. But I was effected and I still feel my neck after 5 years after the accident. 😢

I play GT7 and ACC on the PS5 but much of what you said can very well be used. Thanks for the great video!

I wish I could like this multiple times.

4:20 i dont think ive ever even thought of the tires in this way

fantastic video... great job.

Amazing video. Can you explain what people means que they say driving with the pedals?, whats the limit? How this work with tyre usage? Etc. i appreciate finding this channel. Keep it up

Really well explained. Thanks for the effort 👌

@danny lee Great video. Can you do a video about spring settings like dampening, ride height and rebound?

Now I understand, but I’m anxious about how much I know

Dude thank you for giving us your time :) cheers

Another cracking video mate. Your teachings are brilliant. I look forward to not being able to apply them due to my own impatience, but the main thing is, i know what you mean. 👌🏼🇦🇺

Hi Danny do you have a video on traction control and how to adjust didnt see one, could be interesting if not :-)

Yes it has thank you for sharing that knowledge with me

my favourite setup change for reducing oversteer is limiting the front suspension travel - stopping the nose from pointing at the floor too much. Without having to stiffen up the front springs or decreasing rear wing. It frustrates me if some games don't let me limit suspension travel.

Very informative

Can you make a video of how to use the clutch to take corners better?

Bop Bop Bop Bop, Bo-Bop! @2:42

it's all about rear and front high.. oversteer? rear higher. understeer? front lower. Rear wing? More straights = less wing More corners = more wing SPA MONZA wing at 1 etc.. And than you set up front and rear high to the point that you can survive the race.

It's been 84 years- I mean 8 months since the last tutorial. You have this certain philosophical approach (I can't put a finger on it) with your explanations that it unlocks other perspective of answers to the same problem.

All I have to say is wow very informative great video

This changes everything

That´s an awesome video. Thanks a lot for that!

This video really helps, but can you trailbrake with a front wheel drive car or are you better to slow down before the corner and accelerate through

Lol nice ref with Mitchell and Webb

Very informative. Earned a sub.

I have maybe a misunderstanding of the part coming at 7:18. You say that as we are under braking, the front of the car has more grip, and the rear less. Then, if we turn to brutally the steering wheel, then, the rear of the car having too low weight, then less grip, turning too much and too fast the steering wheel will lead us to ask too much to the rear wheels, that would not be able to keep the grip asked, and will lead to.... oversteering. But on another hand, there is another understanding of it that leads me to a paradox. If you turn more the steering wheel, you are using more of the front wheels grip potential to turn, and you are leaving less grip potential into braking. Then, by steering more, you brake less, and by braking less, the rear of the car regains weight and the front loses it... this gain of weight into the front and lose into the rear would lead into understeering. Or you'll either keep braking as much but get into ABS and... understeer. So regarding this conception, steering more = braking less = less weight transfer = understeering... the opposite of the previous conception, which also intuitivly makes sense to me. I learned that from Suellio Almeida on this video : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mryWdtl-yMqxqIk.html. I would like to get your point of view about it please.

I didn't understand anything until the baby analogy then it all made sense

Is there a reason why at 7:50 (fixing oversteer at corner entry) you only talk about steering less strongly and not about braking less hard? When you're coming in hot and your rear wheels start to slide at corner entry it's a tough situation to get out of and I wonder is it always better to steer wider or could it be sometimes better to release brakes? Either way it's really tough situation to stay on track. I also noticed at 11:50 you talk about oversteer again but now only mention throttle and brake and not about steering. Im curious why ? Thanks for the great explanation btw. Subscribed !

Excellent content

bottomline, keep your car stable and fast

In motorcycle's term we call it lowside or highside..

Why do your graphics look better than mine? I do full details all maxed, looks half as good oO

Great video Danny:)

very informative. subbed

How about "good luck" balance, what does it mean?

Love to know how to gauge the braking speed going into the corner. I kind of understand that hard brakes and then turn into the corner but I think I am missing out something, the car understeers and slides, while by watching others they are doing the same thing but they don’t slide.

Sorry if you already answered this and you can call me dumb, but I don't understand the part about a rear drive car suffering from corner exit oversteer from too much power to the rear. Wouldn't more throttle help against oversteer instead of causing it since it's shifting weight to the back? You recommend some soft controlled throttling to remedy oversteer in that case, but wouldn't more throttle equal an even more effective result? How does shifting weight to the rear TOO MUCH cause oversteer, shouldnt it help grip the rear? EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't consider basic physics lol. The rear wheels spinning faster reduces grip naturally, offsetting the grip gains from the weight transfer.

Another great video 👌

You forgot tire pressure, camber and suspension setups, they also have effect on over and understeer. Even a full or almost empty fuel tank is something that you can feel…. Man so many choices…. 😂

How can i eliminate understeer under braking with my gr yaris? Sometimes it just wont turn. Its also hard to get it into brake-oversteer even when applying the handbrake when not fast enough. So often the rear weight just pushes over the front tires. I think it has to do with the awd system. I already raised the rear tire pressure and applied some toe out on the rear. Any ideas? I dont want to make it completely unstable on high speeds though.

You had me until you said "iTs NoT ____, iTs You" and then i felt attacked. It can't be me IM THE BEST idc if i just got my first wheel 3 weeks ago.

Hmm, maybe I missed it but there is nothing about how to catch it as in what to do with the steering wheel on top of what to do with the pedals.

great video

Instructions unclear, I cannot steer now

6:00 Is F1 cars not lawnmowers half of the time?

In Iracing, why does it look like the track is moving and the car is just placed on top of it.

Awesome

Danny Lee I have some problem in forza motorsport 7, iam using the g920 logitech, and my car keeps oversteering! This never happens with the Japanese cars I used. Iam currently doing a muscle car race. Is there a upgrade or setting that can help me stabilize my car. I wonder if I can send u a live video so u can help me out.

So, where is dead body??

Now i understand, I suck hahahah.

That was a bit complicated. My way of doing it back when i used to drift a Silvia S14 was, if the car rotated too much aka understeered, i would left foot brake to shift weight to the front tires to give them more grip while keeping my foot on the gas to keep the engine in the power band and the turbo spooled. If the car understeer at corner entry, force the car to rotate by either more gas to break the rear loose, ebrake, or clutch kick