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Medieval Pleasures: What Was Sex Really Like in the Middle Ages?
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Warning: contains strong language and sexual content.
Get ready to indulge in some Medieval Pleasures. In this three-part series, historian Dr Eleanor Janega (@Going Medieval) takes us on a journey into the sumptuous world of Sex, Booze and Sport throughout the Medieval period.
In this episode, Eleanor and Dr Kate Lister (@whoresofyore) take to the streets of York to uncover the sex lives of folks living here over 500 years ago. Armed with medieval chat-up lines they attempt to woo a suitor while revealing the hidden ribald meanings behind some common words and phrases, giving an insight into the diverse, bold and unabashed sexual appetites of medieval people and the role the church had in controlling the sex lives of worshippers.
And at the Tower of London Eleanor explores courtly love and how the royal bedchamber was a very crowded place, particularly when a regal marriage was consummated. She also investigates the complicated rules governing the sex trade in the capital, where almost anything goes as long as it happens in the approved red light district.
Come with Eleanor as she ventures into the heady world of medieval pleasure...
And if you want to know more about what went on in medieval bedrooms and beyond, check out Kate Lister's fascinating new Betwixt the Sheets podcast on History Hit. You can even hear her discussing it with Eleanor Janega: pod.fo/e/11b847 They chat all things aphrodisiacs, sex diaries and religious rules, as well as bizarre fertility treatments involving actual fish in places they should never go. WARNING this episode includes explicit language and adult themes
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@tk.gaines 2 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate how in all her videos she emphasizes how you’ll never understand the ancient or medieval world if you insist on looking at that world through a modern lens.

@heidimeigs5192 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@alyciamarie4163 2 жыл бұрын

Same will happen with us in thousands of years.

@marko.1245 2 жыл бұрын

I feel that way about the Bible...

@charliejohnston1978 2 жыл бұрын

So that is what she tried to do, was look at ancient sexual activities through her own anti-church biased modern lens.

@julianshepherd2038 2 жыл бұрын

@@charliejohnston1978 just using the church as source is not history. It is a cult.

@kittkattgo 2 жыл бұрын

My Mother was born in London in 1929. She had 8 children, I was the 6th and born in the States. When I was in my 20's she said to me that, "Every generation thinks that they have invented sex." Now that I have turned 60, I totally understand why she said that.

@bethewalt7385 2 жыл бұрын

It took you until 60 to get that? That's funny and a little scary

@malikahmad8170 2 жыл бұрын

@@bethewalt7385 he is lucky to have discovered at 60-I am older and still had not found much

@Benjaminleo815 2 жыл бұрын

@@bethewalt7385 No it isn't. 60 is a good age to discover truths from our parents.

@AtlisDe Жыл бұрын

@@bethewalt7385 why is that weird? At 60 they've seen more than enough in their own experience to attach truth to their mothers statement. In short you're seeing a few generations depiction of sex by that point.

@h0rriphic Жыл бұрын

@@Benjaminleo815 sigh…and whatever age you are is far too late to have taken OP’s statement in such an insufferable, literal sense.

@jacoboleary9076 5 ай бұрын

Medieval Prague was so iconic. Streaking priests, tossing people out of tower windows, horoscopes on giant clocks... what a time to be alive

@blackkittycat15 Ай бұрын

This is the history I wanted to learn but was never taught in schools. Not just sex, but culture and everyday lives.

@mrsx7944 2 күн бұрын

There are these things called BOOKS. All of this information is out there for you to read about. You don't have to wait to be taught anything. .

@blackkittycat15 Күн бұрын

@@mrsx7944 I read the entire history textbook. None of this was mentioned, hence my complaint. It should be in book.

@mrsx7944 Күн бұрын

@@blackkittycat15 I'm not talking about your school TEXTBOOKS!! 🤦🤦🤦!

@mrsx7944 Күн бұрын

@@blackkittycat15 you do realize there a lot of other types of books right??

@blackkittycat15 Күн бұрын

@@mrsx7944 Give me a title. I haven't found any like that so I'd love recommendations. You read so it should be easy to find a educational book about daily lives in the past.

@bethnorrod5942 Жыл бұрын

My great grandmother was born in TN in 1911 to Scottish parents. Her favorite color was red,but she'd been raised that only hussies wore red. She wouldn't even grow red roses. As meek as she was,she was strong. Her husband was born to Irish parents,they married at 12. She was 22,pregnant for the 4th time when her husband was diagnosed with a brain tumor. He was getting uncontrollably violent,she would lock herself up with the kids at night. During her 8th month,told her he was terrified of hurting her or the kids,went out to the woods and shot himself. She carried him home,put him on the kitchen table,cleaned him,and held a 3 day wake. She said she'd never remarry and she didn't. She passed in 1992. After she died,we found trunks full of red lingerie,purses and shoes. It was like her little rebellion against her deeply religious parents. Deep down she wanted to be a hussy. Lol.

@colleenwhalen-pg7un Жыл бұрын

So even as an adult with a family of her own, she was still under the thumb of her parents....the parents are in Scotland and she was in Tennessee.......I dont get it?

@bethnorrod5942 Жыл бұрын

@@colleenwhalen-pg7un her parents and her in laws immigrated here. She was surrounded by people so religious and stuffy that she couldn't even wear her favorite color, it became so ingrained that she still wouldn't wear it after she was widowed and on her own. She bought pretty lingerie,purses and shoes in red,even though no one saw them,they still made her feel wild and sexy.

@medinsane Жыл бұрын

Damn that’s crazy! I’m glad I was born to less religious parents in a more modern era, I spoke before I could walk and my mum says as soon I knew the words I refused to wear clothes that weren’t red! Imagine a 1 year old demanding what colour her dress will be that day! I still like red but I wear other colours too now :)

@Mehki227 Жыл бұрын

@Ana Luiza Were not religious at all and neither were my grandparents, but she was always protecting us from boys and sex. She was very strict. Anyway my 60 something sister just told me 2 days ago, she didn't wear lipstick until she was 40 because my grandma scrubbed her face so hard when she caught her playing in our aunt's makeup. Nearly out entire conversation was about the things we do and don't do more, because of what our parents and grandparents said. Both of us are very independent women, who've bought our own homes support ourselves and raised our kids ourselves, but things from childhood no matter what will influence the rest of your life and how you live.

@justanormalwoman5230 Жыл бұрын

@@medinsane I remember when I was 12 or 13 I painted my nails red. My father, who was around 40-41 told me I looked like a prostitute. This was in the early 2000s. Prudish people are everywhere unfortunately. Luckily my mom never agreed with him. Ever since then my fav colour is red when it comes to my nails or lips. 😀

@HistoricalWeapons 2 жыл бұрын

could not have clicked faster

@ukuleonscotland674 2 жыл бұрын

😂

@shawnwhite2120 2 жыл бұрын

😆

@matthewwriter9539 2 жыл бұрын

That still won't get you any more sex.

@MrShoryuken1 2 жыл бұрын

Click clickety click click click!

@iDigsGiantRobots 2 жыл бұрын

SAME

@Earthbound369 11 ай бұрын

Nice to learn about Medieval Pleasures instead of wars, pestilence, and tortures of the era. 👍

@Manager_Mister 10 ай бұрын

Make love not war

@jnai-gr3tr Ай бұрын

😂

@anti-ethniccleansing465 Ай бұрын

Why didn’t they explain what “grap” meant? Are we supposed to know? They acted like it was a euphemism, but that is a non-word here in the USA, and the host is American.

@andersonic 11 ай бұрын

All this time I never realized medieval "courtly love" was extramarital. From a modern lens it sounded like aesthetic bachelors swooning poetically over their idealized ladies. That's probably a Victorian romantic view of the middle ages.

@kelb6073 2 жыл бұрын

The one main thing I learned after reading tons about history, is language, clothing and laws may have been different. But people weren't different at all. They lied, cheated, had fun, liked jokes. Anything happening today, happened back then minus technology. Good, bad and ugly. I think they were crazier..they really liked a good time 😂

@tempesttking5715 2 жыл бұрын

Well said! Lol

@Yellow-Rose Жыл бұрын

I think people are definitely crazier today.

@Man-cv5ws Жыл бұрын

@@Yellow-Rose I doubt it, people had picnics at executions.

@Yellow-Rose Жыл бұрын

@@Man-cv5ws but executions were normal. Anyway not everybody had a "picnic" as you call it. People do a lot of s*** today that's not normal.

@Luubelaar Жыл бұрын

People are, and always have been, just people. We really aren't that different to everyone before us.

@nickh.4917 Жыл бұрын

After my grandfather died my grandmother told me an off color story about him. I said, “My sweet old grandpa did that?” She said, “Well he wasn’t always old and he wasn’t always sweet.” The scenery changes, people don’t.

@tayespinosa 7 ай бұрын

What does a color story mean?

@jennifergleason9853 7 ай бұрын

"off-color" is the adjective here, not color. It is usually used as a way to describe lewd (not necessarily explicit but often sexual) language, such as a story or joke. I believe (don't quote me on this) it might have to do with the fact that color print and the fact that classified ads would be printed in the back pages of papers and magazines, so the ads for sex workers or sex toys or the explicit jokes or cartoons would often be printed "off-color," but again just a guess.

@optimist3580 6 ай бұрын

@@jennifergleason9853off-colour in English means that a person is not feeling well. A doctor would note a persons pallor, it’s quite common for an English speaker to say that they are feeling “off colour”

@andromedaspark2241 5 ай бұрын

the meaning appears to differ between "off-color" in American English and "off-colour" in presumably British English. In the US it means "lewd". @@optimist3580

@alicemilne1444 5 ай бұрын

@optimist3580 Idioms in English can have more than one meaning. Both your explanation and Jennifer's are correct. The meaning just depends on context.

@kaepi3 Жыл бұрын

“And here we are, 800 years later, still making fun of John” 😭

@TanukiOfficial 10 ай бұрын

4:46 Gives new meaning to the saying, "I'll be there with bells on."

@juliesmith5123 5 ай бұрын

Technically, it brings light to the original meaning but yes, I get what you are saying. I picked up on that as well.

@censusgary 2 жыл бұрын

Closing the bed curtains wasn’t just for privacy. There was a common belief that keeping out the night air would prevent illness. Also, houses were not well heated, and the curtains helped hold warmth in during the cold months.

@garethsmith7628 2 жыл бұрын

They did not realise mosquitos spread malaria and thought it was the "night vapours"

@censusgary 2 жыл бұрын

@@garethsmith7628 The mosquitoes that spread malaria are active only at night, so to the extent that the curtains kept out mosquitoes, they probably did help prevent malaria.

@Conathan23 2 жыл бұрын

J9D⁹8th .

@polarexperts2125 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, it is like nowadays coming soon in winter

@reelsforyou8567 Жыл бұрын

Also, courtly love is being used improperly here. Courtly love is the pure, unconsummated love between a knight/subject and his lady

@stephaniecuzner8147 Жыл бұрын

I love medieval manuscript doodles. I can just imagine these scribes getting bored and just doodling, no matter how good they were at drawing, not realizing their work would be a topic of art history and spread across the Internet. Can you imagine them rolling in their graves in embarrassment? I know i would if my doodles became a part of history

@naporeon 4 ай бұрын

I know, right? And those doodles also allow me to use one of favorite words: "marginalia."

@jasompinard4576 2 ай бұрын

Imagine the utter tedium of rewriting manuscipts all day. Essentially being a living photocopier. Then the temptation of being creative comes along.

@cry2love Ай бұрын

I know that you'll be embarrassed for 5 minutes and proud for your work continuously 😂

@dryroasted5599 10 ай бұрын

After I was an adult, I was talking to my Grandma about Grandpa, who had died when I was six. She told me that he had been fired from his position in the city fire department because he had been caught having an affair. He left town shortly after that and found work in a neighboring state (as a carpenter, not a firefighter.) She followed him with their two daughters after a short time, and they lived there for nearly eight years. Everyone came back to our hometown and nothing more was said about it. She never considered divorcing him. This was in a medium sized city on the west coast, but the shame of his act was enough to ostracize them in the community. I was amazed that I'd never heard this story before, and circumspectly asked my mother and aunt about it. They said they'd never known the reason why the family had moved, but had suspected when they were older. Times certainly have changed.

@marcusaurelius4777 4 ай бұрын

As it should have been shamed. Marriage is a bond. To take it so lightly makes you undeserving of civilization. Imagine being a woman married to that guy and he disgraces you in such a fundamental way. The only reason that she DIDN'T divorce his undeserving ass was because she was trapped by society. No way to get an education, job, future, etc... outside of the economic transaction that women were forced to participate in: marriage. I absolutely believe that she would have divorced him had she options to do so. I can't fathom the idea of being forced to marry some unfaithful bastard for the rest of my life and depend on everything and be at his mercy. I'm a man, and I thank god that I was born so. Society is so hostile toward women it's outrageous. Nowadays men are like, "Women are so toxic and have such high standards!" No, they have the SAME STANDARDS as you, they only now have the freedom to do so and act on those desires lol. Even still, marriage is a trap for women because their careers usually end to be the baby maker and home maker slave. Fuck that lol. God bless your GrandMA for putting up with that shit.

@JJONNYREPP 2 ай бұрын

What Were Medieval Attitudes Towards Sex? | Medieval Pleasures 1525pm 15.6.24 i think we must have imagined great cunt street.... though you'd know that.

@AlcibiadesMD Ай бұрын

Poor grandpa 😪

@anti-ethniccleansing465 Ай бұрын

@@AlcibiadesMD Poor grandpa?!?! Poor grandma! Having a cheating husband and having to suck it up because she and the kids rely on his income! Not to mention that she got humiliated in her town due to no fault of her own!

@seashelly6387 29 күн бұрын

What the hell kind of punishment was that? "You cheated on your wife so now she and the children have to starve". Human stupidity is truly limitless.

@gijbuis 7 ай бұрын

I went to a Roman Catholic boarding school run by a teaching order of monks. We had to study Chaucer but we were not allowed to study the Miller's tale - which of course became the part of Chaucer's works which we all ended up knowing best!

@pivotguydc1149 Ай бұрын

A thing being expressly forbidden makes it automatically the most popular thing to do. Classic.

@efjeK Жыл бұрын

"Marriage is sex work one man at a time" had me on the floor. Amazing quote!

@maitreyajambhulkar Жыл бұрын

Marriage is what it should be. As you have highlighted that quote.

@energyben Жыл бұрын

It's a bitter and warped comment by someone trying to belittle marriage because she resents men, probably due to her own insecurities/issues

@ogribiker8535 Жыл бұрын

@@energybenOh get over yourself, looks like you are the one with a problem !.

@Sarah-hw7ok Жыл бұрын

@@energybenhaha no. It’s true in that time with the options women had for how to make an income. Not only is it not new info, but they said in the video what women could do for work and income, and you still missed it ? It’s either jobs of the ilk of washing peoples smelly dirty B.O. fragranced sometimes poopy (more often than if you washed your own; I worked sorting charity donations and some ppl consider the donation bin a trash bin/don’t care cuz they’re not handling it) and other nasties, and after all that still make little enough money you do sex work too. How do you add all this up and still come to your comment ?

@anon2427 Жыл бұрын

@@energybenI agree

@bradleybobbs Жыл бұрын

"We tend to think about sex work as being this really modern invention." I certainly haven't thought that, due to it being so frequently called "the world's oldest profession".

@esmeecampbell7396 Жыл бұрын

Yeah there's a couple misconceptions or intentional misinterpretations that seem to have been deliberately inserted here that don't make sense to be innocent mistakes. That is one, trying to make it sound like accepting prostitution is a solely progressive move because "hey look they had it back then we wouldn't care". The other one is the disingenuous claim that transexuals were as common back then as they are now simply because ONE person was listed as having been born John but working as a prostitute. Likely that was a hermaphrodite, they were usually raised male even if they wouldn't be able to function as one, and probably only resorted to living as a woman for the work aspect (men had the money, most men wanted sex with women, thus most profitable to "become" a woman and go hooking as one of those instead) whereas these days it is rampant as really just a political trojan horse and supported mainly by people looking for attention or legitimising a fetish, or most of all suffering from a genuine mental illness. Academia is shifting VERY left wing and becoming VERY revisionist, which is essentially the worst crime a historian can do.

@SuperMegaCyrus Жыл бұрын

@@esmeecampbell7396 Trans people have been around forever and will continue to be. Cry about it.

@esmeecampbell7396 Жыл бұрын

@@SuperMegaCyrus they really haven't, Catamites are the closest thing in historical record but they didn't literally consider themselves to be women... The point is AS COMMON back then, learn to read. They simply didn't exist in the same numbers back then as they seem to now, which suggests something other than human biology is the cause, the trendiness, the fetish element, the knowledge of it spreads and corrupts other people into believing it. Nowadays it is just a sexual fetish that is masquerading as a "legitimate" belief. Personally I think in 100 years it will have faded away or been cured, because that's what it actually is, a mental illness. Now go join the 41%

@Necrovoker Жыл бұрын

@Esmee Campbell you just had to go on a transphobic tirade

@esmeecampbell7396 Жыл бұрын

@@Necrovoker I had to point out that the history they are stating was inaccurate. Historical revisionism is dangerous, just as dangerous when transsexuals are trying to insert themselves into it as when nations try to write themselves an identity that never existed.

@mojo500100 11 ай бұрын

Those who think the Bible discourages the enjoyment of sex are misinformed--it often speaks of finding pleasure in the marriage bed, etc. Prominent figures of early Christianity--including Peter, viewed by some as the first Pope-were married. Those who accept the Genesis record will find the first sin in Eden had nothing to do with sexuality. It was the perfect human couple, surrounded by everything they needed to enjoy life, failing what was a simple test by selfishly taking the one (and only) thing they were directed to not take.

@priscillak777 5 ай бұрын

Agree

@sallybalkin8507 2 жыл бұрын

These 2 ladies communicate so easily with each other. It's like watching two old friends have a natter. They are so relaxed it's refreshing to watch.

@glennduke5853 2 жыл бұрын

The ladies are good. I expect they have a good amount of familiarity with the subject in modern times!

@themanifester1807 2 жыл бұрын

@@glennduke5853 😂

@KingsPriest 2 жыл бұрын

This was historically inaccurate and a farce. This was purely a propaganda piece on normalizing immoral deviant sex. The anti-Church bias is grotesquely apparent. This is how the godless see and think. Between the fake giggles and laughter the straight up lies are insulting. She found only a single person who might be trans and without any other corroborating evidence states it was everywhere and common. Huh? This is suppose to be scholarly? Wake up people if you cant see through this then it's probably too late for you and your conscious is seared. You are on the same ship, it's on fire and is going down and you don't even know it. Very sad.

@Fragrantbeard 2 жыл бұрын

@@glennduke5853 oh, ha ha ha, women having sex.

@meldoesnails7682 Жыл бұрын

@Sally Balkin I had never heard the word "natter" used before. Thanks for introducing me to a new word. 😊

@daffyf6829 2 жыл бұрын

I think one thing that should be mentioned about the bedding ceremony is how marriage was more about politics than about love or romance especially with royals. The bedding ceremony was more like an oversight committee, a guarantee of the alliance's legitimacy and of course a legal witnessing. In fact, we still call the groomsmen and bridesmaids witnesses.

@TheSirStrazzen 2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the Meme I've seen a few times now in different formats. It has a Knight i plate armor with a Halberd and he says " She said she wanted me to treat her like a Princes ~ So I married her off to a stranger to strengthen Our Alliance with Poland {Westphallia, Saxony, Bavaria, etc....}" . Always makes me laugh when that Meme comes around again . :-) TSS

@dennisrichardville4988 2 жыл бұрын

it still is !

@delboy-su3wf 2 жыл бұрын

Watching a drama on Netflix last year think was Spain. how the Lords of the manner wd bed a man's wife before him. Like rape. I just thought yet these same men whos women wd be had before them wd go and fight for Kings and for men who had there wife's.

@TheSirStrazzen 2 жыл бұрын

Yea, and I remember from "Braveheart" the Roman Governor having some sort of Ritual with every Maiden that got married ? "Prima Nocturna? Or some such , but because Wallace hid his marriage the Garrison Commander slit his wife's throat and thus started the " Campaign to Eradicate All Romans in Scotland " , or something like that. LOL 🤣 TSS

@owensampson5380 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSirStrazzen ACA

@Perkelenaattori 7 ай бұрын

I've listened to Kate Lister's podcast for a while now and there's a regular advertisement about trying to find company on the streets of York, armed with medieval chatup lines, and I'm glad to see this video is here for all of our pleasure.

@TigerPrawn_ Ай бұрын

Are you telling me I’m going to have to listen to both their podcasts now?!😊

@Perkelenaattori Ай бұрын

@@TigerPrawn_ Kate Lister has a podcast called Betwixt the sheets which is about historical sex.

@TigerPrawn_ Ай бұрын

@@Perkelenaattori Right! I think I've heard of it! Also your username :D

@ILoveYou-rv3pd 8 ай бұрын

I don’t think anyone thinks that sex work is a modern invention. It’s literally called the world’s oldest profession 😂

@Soham.69 8 ай бұрын

More than 1000 or 2000 years old

@ILoveYou-rv3pd 8 ай бұрын

@@Soham.69 yeah, I’d say MUCH older than 2000 years.

@jeffcolorado 2 жыл бұрын

I'm reminded of the King who had someone watch the marriage bed of his son and the princess from another kingdom to make sure the marriage was consummated. The King asked the watcher if all went well. The watcher replied, "It was all very royal. The princess said, 'I offer you my honor.' The prince said, 'I honor your offer.' And that's how it went all night. Honor. Offer. Honor. Offer."

@sheilasoule2774 2 жыл бұрын

😂

@MrAdryan1603 2 жыл бұрын

Yikes.. 😂

@adamesd3699 2 жыл бұрын

You, my good sir, are the winner of this comment section today.

@rickyrydell 2 жыл бұрын

A nice variation of the classic judge (your honor) joke. Well played!

@hkumar7340 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 Just bone her!

@DavidTasselTots 2 жыл бұрын

I hate how the medieval pickup line I remember most, was the one that everyone hated. "I am an ambassador sent to you from the court of love"

@wartgin 6 ай бұрын

I liked that one the best although I don't think it would work as a pickup line (too over-the-top and cheesy) but in a Valentine or love letter in an existing relationship ❤.

@kimquinn7728 10 ай бұрын

Somehow the Church overlooked Deut. 24:5, “When a man is newly married, he should not serve in the army or be given any other duties. He should remain exempt for one year and *stay at home and bring joy to his wife*. JOY. Unfortunately, what was taught in Scripture was twisted by the church. Nowhere in the Bible does it say if you marry and there are no children AND on top of that you become too old to bear children, you must abstain. No. Sex between married people was proper and to be partaken of with consideration and joy. They have so much to answer for!

@spankyjeffro5320 2 ай бұрын

Yes, it does. Sodomy is anything other than sex with intent and ability to procreate, also has to result in procreation. Religion has a lot to answer for, yes. So does every single follower and anyone who does not directly oppose religion. Also "joy" does not mean sex, it means happiness.

@timmaxwell2348 3 ай бұрын

I admit I'm quite a bit biased on this, because when I see "Eleanor and Kate" I immediately hit thumbs up! Both are extremely knowledgeable, and fun to listen to on their own, but together they're a hoot!

@hardingdies7811 Жыл бұрын

These two Ladies make history not only come alive, but remind us that humanity really doesn't change that much, just the 'conventions of the day' vary - and the Catholic Church remains the same. This whole series has been enlightening. Thanks!

@CubeInspector 2 ай бұрын

The entire point of being Catholic is to have an unchanging religion established by Christ.

@Nunavuter1 Жыл бұрын

I just made the linguistic connection between "stew" (to sit in hot water) and "Brothel" --- the liquid (broth) being made when you stew something. Amazing how language works.

@ShannonSouthAfrica Жыл бұрын

I think the term comes from the term broth. You'd go to a tavern for a bowl of broth and you had a little something on the side....

@BoojeeRedneck Жыл бұрын

Same!!

@daniellehutchinson5724 Жыл бұрын

Bone broth 😂

@thomasjackson2223 Жыл бұрын

If you are talking about the "drinking bath water" fetish: ewwwww

@fordhouse8b Жыл бұрын

That is not where the term brothel comes from. Brothel was a Middle English word for a worthless person or a prostitute, and is related to an earlier Old English words meaning worthless, degenerate or deteriorate, or good for nothing, wretch. So originally a brothel house was the house of degenerate person/prostitute. The house part was simply later dropped, and the word came to mean the place rather than the people found there.

@TanukiOfficial 10 ай бұрын

2:48 The speaker was censored, so I didn't know what she was saying about Grape Lane: "In the city of York, for instance, Grapcvnt Lane - *grāp is the Old English word for grope* -was renamed as Grape Lane. Bristol's 'Gropecount Lane', recorded by that form in the late fifteenth century had been contracted to Grope Lane by the 1540s, sometimes then being euphemised to 'Grape Lane'." "Cvnt" was the censored word that I've misspelled.

@misst.e.a.187 5 ай бұрын

The AI is American, so butt sensitive about words like grope - which isn't even an expletive

@misst.e.a.187 5 ай бұрын

Now the C-word was used with flourish back then. It was a sexual description then as now

@TanukiOfficial 5 ай бұрын

@misst.e.a.187 Very true. The AI is very dumb to not recognize that common words should not be treated as profanity.

@musclecactus5183 5 ай бұрын

That was my first thought when she said that. Gropecunt Lane was what I remembered hearing years ago

@judypasqualone3819 5 ай бұрын

I thought it was cock….meaning part of the name of the street or location…like grape lane. All names for “that “ area!

@limitlessLtd 3 ай бұрын

It was the Victorians that really made the modern world so modest. Victorian era attitudes towards sex still prevail a lot today. Also lookup gropecunt alley, common in most English cities.

@countalma9800 2 жыл бұрын

Finally, someone busted the myth of Medieval people bathing "twice in their lifetime"! Interesting episode. Thank you!

@davidl3904 Жыл бұрын

Well they didn't really "bust" it, they just said it wasn't true but not what their sources were or if it was true for everyone.

@ericbrown1101 Жыл бұрын

I thought that was just a story about Queen Isabella of Spain specifically.

@HerveBoisde Жыл бұрын

I honestly think that capitalism tries to spread a lot of myths about feudal times to make it seem so much more dirty, depressing and poor than it really was, for the benefit of keeping the masses content with what they currently have.

@aries6776 Жыл бұрын

I could never see why that would be true. If you look at people in really deprived regions of the world today with no access to running water, they will still often bathe regularly in nearby water sources. I feel like the only time people wouldn't bathe as regularly is if they really couldn't because of limited access to water. We didn't evolve our sense of smell over millions of years just to ignore bad smells, it served an evolutionary purpose for our survival as a species.

@bobjohnson1633 Жыл бұрын

You don't need to bathe everything. Just get in the primary dirty spots and you need a couple gallons of clear water.

@lenyfreeman3807 Жыл бұрын

I had a childhood friend who's grandmother was Sally Stanford. She was a madam in San Francisco, moved to Sausalito, and created a "restaurant" with a red light in the window. The name was Valhalla. I went there as a kid, had no idea. Later, Mom filled me in. Sally wrote a book Call Me Madam. It was a run read.

@susanwhite7474 8 ай бұрын

Didn't she have a dog she named Leland, after the son of the creators of Stanford University?

@sw_9_9_9 7 ай бұрын

She has her own wiki page, and yes, Leland her dog appears to have have been named after the son of the creators of Stanford University (Leland Stanford Jr. died of typhoid fever aged 15).

@bdcochran01 Ай бұрын

50 years ago, I attended a meeting of women lawyers and doctors. The speaker was a famous madame from SF. She related that the prostitutes told her than over 1/2 the time, all the men wanted to do was talk, not to have sex. She related that she made her money be simply listening. She listened to men giving advice on investments and by listening went from having no education, no money and no support system to hob nobing with the rich and famous and city leaders.

@osajohnson1957 11 ай бұрын

Better late.... So glad I found your video! What a treat to watch a smart, pithy and vibrant historian in her element. Thanks!

@rglittle6 2 жыл бұрын

"We tend to think about sex work as a modern invention." Really? I thought we call it "the oldest profession in the world" 🤔

@LadyRavenhaire 2 жыл бұрын

No, It's not the oldest profession. The oldest profession was hunter/gatherer. Prostitution is the oldest exploitation.

@floydvaughn836 2 жыл бұрын

Sex work is code for prostitution. Sex worker is code for prostitute. New Speak. Kind of like People of Color is new Speak for Colored People. See how this works?

@757Bricksquad 2 жыл бұрын

We do

@lukeet331 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm with you I never thought it was modern at all

@norituk9824 2 жыл бұрын

@Ryan L - I thought sex was invented by Madonna. She seems to think so.

@sothic23 2 жыл бұрын

It's just so awesome to see this kind of high quality, captivating historical documentary on KZfaq! Sincere thanks and kudos for the History Hit crew! 👍❤

@TigerPrawn_ Ай бұрын

I learned that medieval people typically did not sleep the whole 8 hours through the night (a modern invention) and usually at like 1am they would wake up, get jiggy with it, then go back to bed.

@tfrtrouble 7 ай бұрын

"We tend to think of sex work as this really modern invention"?! Who has ever thought that? Prostitution is regularly referred to (rightly or wrongly) as the world's oldest profession. Historical records and literature from across the world are full of references to sex workers or laws about them. I've never heard of anyone thinking it's a modern invention.

@c704710 Жыл бұрын

One of my favorite medieval riddles: "It is pointy on top, hairy at its base, it often makes ladies cry, but they like it in the pantry" There is only one answer possible to this riddle: An onion.

@casy6203 11 ай бұрын

😒🤣🤣

@spankyjeffro5320 2 ай бұрын

Another possible answer is "A carrot in the hands of an annoying person.". "Don't count your chickens before they hatch.".

@anti-ethniccleansing465 Ай бұрын

@@spankyjeffro5320 Carrots aren’t hairy on the bottom.

@dheredia2789 16 күн бұрын

The root is hairy looking@@anti-ethniccleansing465

@Wokerati Жыл бұрын

she s the reason i’m interested in medieval period ! she’s so good at explaining and making history interesting! she and Ruth Goodman should do a series together !

@emicaron 2 жыл бұрын

Educational AND entertaining, loved this! I really appreciate their way of speaking about history, making it approachable and fun to learn about.

@bluebluelectricblue 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe John was gay 🤔

@KingsPriest 2 жыл бұрын

@deanne1671 2 жыл бұрын

If school had of been this interesting, I'd have a PhD!

@SlimRhyno 2 жыл бұрын

Educational AND entertaining?! Why, that also perfectly describes all of the best sex in my life! Hmm... so what does that say about me? 🫂😅

@Civilmonkey1 2 жыл бұрын

@@SlimRhyno nothing your profile name hasn't already 😅

@bettyharrison9537 2 ай бұрын

I’m so happy to hear that the people ignored the church’s ridiculous rules for sex. I was worried!

@Brisleep1 2 ай бұрын

I think we wouldn't have 8 billion people on the planet if they followed the ridiculous rules of the church.

@pinkgreenmelon2209 Ай бұрын

I mean almost all Catholics then and now don’t even read the Bible like those other Christians do 😂

@charlottewilliams1707 4 ай бұрын

17:16 I love to think there was at least one woman who looked at the bishop and said sobering to the effect of, “waaaait, you can do that? Cool.”

@Vox-Multis Ай бұрын

"I expect a full report on your next confession."

@LivingInCloud1 Жыл бұрын

What an excellent and balanced episode. No judging, just facts delivered in a laid back format. Loved it.

@subicstationditosailor4053 Жыл бұрын

"Laid" back..... 😉

@mehere6865 Жыл бұрын

saw what you did there hehehe

@47StormShadow 10 ай бұрын

No judging? Did you listen to it? The whole time she was talking about the churches views on sexuality it was very clear that she views them in a negative light. Tbh I feel pretty judged.

@jkkimora6350 8 ай бұрын

@@47StormShadow i think thats just your fault. the church had a lot of power and a negative view on sexuality, that is just a fact. if you are someone open minded like her of course you're going to have a negative view on how the church was back then

@47StormShadow 8 ай бұрын

@@jkkimora6350 if you mean some people in the church had a negative view of sex, like Augustine that's fine. He was a wounded man. Saying the church as a whole had a negative view simply isn't true. Aquinas, which she gets wrong by the way, held that sex always was pleasurable and that is a good thing. Moreover I'd ask you to supply an official doctrine ( as opposed to any random Catholics opinion) that states the sex is an odious necessity. There are certain puritan or Nostic groups that DO hold that view and even some Catholics then and today still seem to think that way but youve for to under there is a big difference between that and making the claim that the church as a whole held a negative view. The only way I could see you being correct is if you hold that saying fornication is a sin is defacto negative. If that's the case I have no shot of arguing you out of the point of view. Best case scenario I could make a case that it's not always cut and dry.

@LeonCouch Жыл бұрын

This was a fun video. My first real dive into this topic occurred in undergraduate music history class, where the mix of texts and such quickly demonstrated that the affluent classes (who left us written music) had different ideas sex, sacred/secular, etc. I began to quickly realize that European cultures all the way through the Renaissance had extremely different perceptions of the cosmos, morality, and so forth; and, how we often approached the music and leftover texts with modern questions and attitudes that weren't of primary interest to the writers. We also make a mistake that these writers were try to develop music and culture into what it became in later time periods, when we make up histories to explain all the evidence left to us.

@revanofkorriban1505 Жыл бұрын

What was the class called? Just curious, I took a class fitting your description. We had a good laugh about Orlande de Lassus’s tad lewd song matara, mia cara (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdJlZMyEuZ-cmHU.html).

@B_Bodziak 8 ай бұрын

@@revanofkorriban1505 The OP literally says "music history" as an undergrad. The class was likely listed as "Music History", perhaps, even a 101/102

@revanofkorriban1505 8 ай бұрын

@@B_Bodziak "a music history class" refers to the subject, not the specific course title. And you might want to drop the pretentious language. You don't know any more than me.

@pamjames9077 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, I loved the fact that brought The Millers Wife into the mix. That story brings back memories of high school, the teacher reading it and blushing 😂😂

@bikeman9899 5 ай бұрын

Nicely done ladies. I shudder to think of the risks women had to endure to survive, without a job, or a farm, or skilled trade. Pregnancy, disease, physical abuse, the list goes on. Life in those times was short and brutish for everyone. For sex workers especially so. It's still dangerous for sex workers today.

@alexblaze8878 2 жыл бұрын

No mention of horrible and sometimes disfiguring and fatal results of rampant STDs, or pedophilic sex with children, or incestuous sex that was quite common. Also no mention of the socially devastating stigma of unwed motherhood which would cast the mother into a life of ridicule and poverty as well as permanently malign the children as bastards. Seems this narration was done with rose-colored glasses to make the medieval period seem so progressive and sexually enlightened.

@Nadia-co1gk 2 жыл бұрын

100% spot on!

@adenise__122 Жыл бұрын

but then they wonder why the christians were so strict about these things, most people have been so degenerate it was almost impossible to talk any sense into their heads. raping children was quite normal for them until they were told it is a sin

@adenise__122 Жыл бұрын

and sin does not mean trespassing the law, as catholics or profs teach. it is a sickness, a disease of the soul that devours the mind and body as well.

@HealingLuckyOfficial Жыл бұрын

I understand your point but that isn’t anything new to learn, what’s the point in telling people what they already know. They’re trying to break the assumptions.

@alexblaze8878 Жыл бұрын

@@HealingLuckyOfficial I was stating the info as if it was news to people. I was merely pointing out the biased narrative.

@sumcrazychic2832 Жыл бұрын

I love the way you ladies bring it to the light without casting shame or stones. 6 minutes in and I adore you both.

@Raymondgogolf Жыл бұрын

Hi sumcrazychic I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….🌹🌹🌹🌹

@Pub4si Жыл бұрын

@@Raymondgogolf bruh

@JustDaniel6764 Жыл бұрын

@@Raymondgogolf Raymond you've copy and pasted this comment to numerous people 😂😂 What are you playing at

@whatsinaname11 Жыл бұрын

Pompeii is amazing, and eye opening.

@cherienugent9587 11 ай бұрын

It's life, it's history

@pastyman001 6 ай бұрын

In Banbury, the centre of the town is Parsons st., where Oliver Cromwell was based in the Olde Reine Deer Inn during the Civil War, Battle of Edge Hill . It used to be called Grope Cunt Lane.

@Dabhach1 10 ай бұрын

I hate the term "sex worker." They're prostitutes, and I have much more respect for any woman who uses that word than I ever could for one who tip-toes around language.

@codename495 10 ай бұрын

Imagine being so obtuse you think all sex workers are prostitues,or that they are all women.

@rvt_h3d 9 ай бұрын

found the simp@@codename495

@k8marlowe Жыл бұрын

Fascinating! I got my degree in history, but I’ve learned so much just from this one episode. Medieval people are suddenly so relatable! 😁

@stewartstubbs5278 Жыл бұрын

History is nothing but Lies. You wasted your time & energy.

@lylemitchell1991 Жыл бұрын

@@user-oy3yo7qe6o Thats not what she said.

@stevenschnepp576 11 ай бұрын

I really hope that degree was just an associate's or focused on a different period, because this is a really surface-level documentary.

@k8marlowe 11 ай бұрын

@@stevenschnepp576 😏Wow. Really? It was a BA. But, my focus was on minorities in the southern u.s.. I wanted to put my mind and energy into cultures that have traditionally been overlooked. I certainly didn’t have much interest learning about an era that’s been exhaustively researched.

@jacqueline8559 9 ай бұрын

@@k8marloweBig deal. A basic level degree, where you racked up both debt and alcohol, to emerge with a useless qualification and nano chance of securing a decent job, never mind a career. Unless you're joining that well-trod road, of all the " I've got a rubbish degree " graduates, ...TEACHING 😂😂😂

@Fugazinome Жыл бұрын

Without antibiotics and condoms it must have been like russian roulette.

@dylancrosby2451 7 ай бұрын

@larsliamvilhelmhuh, interesting. I'd always thought of that as a religious practice, so it never occurred to me that there could be another reason. It makes sense tbh.

@NietzscheanMan 7 ай бұрын

@@dylancrosby2451a lot of religious rules have very practical and naturally evolved reasons behind them.

@dantekanter5851 6 ай бұрын

Condoms existed. Not exactly a sophisticated piece of technology! They were made of sheep’s bladder.

@michaelarmstrong5065 6 ай бұрын

They had condoms made from pigs intestines

@highendservicesbarrieont8347 6 ай бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@ianperry4974 5 ай бұрын

CONTEXT. Doesn’t matter if you are studying history, theology, politics, etc. ALWAYS LOOK AT IT IN ITS OWN HISTORICAL CONTEXT.

@LorenzoWake 7 ай бұрын

"We tend to think about sex work as being this really modern institution" lmao last time I checked prostitution is the oldest job in the history books

@LorenzoWake 7 ай бұрын

"Perhaps suprisingly to our modern sensibilities some of the biggest rulebreakers could actually be found among the clergy" lmfaaooo what planet are you living on the catholic church is still full of "rulebreakers" and everyone knows it smfh

@markfilipas1763 2 жыл бұрын

"So, what is sinful about sex? Purely pleasure." Yep, that sums up the sadistic psychology of orthodox religions. Well written piece : )

@70newlife Жыл бұрын

No not religions. Only European Christians which were about 5% of the world. In fact if you remember Muslims and hindus and others were considered licentious by Europeans. Don't project your problems on others.

@notrius7754 8 ай бұрын

All religions and cultures of the world make sex extremely taboo, why? Because by living and learning for centuries and milleniums they've realized that constant pursuit of sex makes people weak, useless, miserable and deprived, this is why they see things like this: Sex = pleasure, pleasure = avoidence of hard work and purpouse = corruption = evil.

@ash_11117 4 ай бұрын

No. The main reason for the prohibitions around it is because it is our belief that any sexual act that isn’t between a married man and women for the purpose of procreation is a sin.

@ML-tr1hz 2 ай бұрын

@@ash_11117 Why?

@TheAncientEmo 2 ай бұрын

@@ML-tr1hzit is a bond and people are intertwined spiritually when they form that bond and they become one with each other, having sex carelessly with whomever you wish causes you severe spiritual pain unless you seer your conscious and have no remorse, but by that point you have already become like a animal with no rationality within yourself.

@vancouverterry9142 2 жыл бұрын

Years ago, the comedienne Erma Bombeck wrote a book "Motherhood, the Second Oldest Profession".

@vancouverterry9142 2 жыл бұрын

@JZ's Best Friend Good one, Man, good one. It was all one string-on sentence in my notification window so I puzzled over it. But to see it on two separate lines, yes I get it . My compliments on your nuanced sense of universals. Cheers!

@heidimeigs5192 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve read it. 😄

@JJONNYREPP 2 ай бұрын

What Were Medieval Attitudes Towards Sex? | Medieval Pleasures 1533pm 25.6.24 after fatherhood y' mean? much maligned, for sure... happy to acknowledge the miserable failings of my fellow menfolk but the floodgates opening leaves a lot to be desired.... especially when it's billy-no-mates left to carry the can....

@edbecker696 11 ай бұрын

I just found this site, one year AFTER it was posted. Some of those Medieval "pickup lines " at around 9 minutes are funny, others GREAT! Is there a collection of these, maybe in a coffee-table book?

@KarnageKollectibles 2 ай бұрын

You just found KZfaq?? 😮

@sabrinaleedance 10 ай бұрын

"We think of sex work as a modern invention " girl, who? Its literally called the worlds oldest profession

@dpspike9368 Жыл бұрын

If we had professors like Dr. Lister, I would still be studying at the university.

@JJONNYREPP 2 ай бұрын

What Were Medieval Attitudes Towards Sex? | Medieval Pleasures 1537pm 25.6.24 adding yeast to self raising flour and hoping for the best, madam. how about you?

@ahobimo732 2 жыл бұрын

The fear of pleasure is a crippling psychological illness. To run and hide from something so fundamental to human life is bound to leave you hopelessly confounded, miserable and a stranger to yourself.

@themanifester1807 2 жыл бұрын

But what good do indiscriminate sex and drugs of all sorts do to modern society? There is no restriction on any of this “pleasure”, and here we are in decline. I, personally, am celibate and my only drug is sugar in coffee and occasional cookie. And if you see me on the street, you would think that I could have just about any guy. And it’s not a matter of libido or fear of pleasure, it’s a matter of choice for me. These “pleasures” are greatly overrated. 🤷🏻‍♀️ There is nothing pleasurable in drinking a pack of beer or having sex multiple times per day. Just waste of health, money and time, lol.

@ahobimo732 2 жыл бұрын

@@themanifester1807 Nothing in my comment was recommending "indiscriminate sex and drugs of all sorts". That's not something I'm remotely interested in. Incidentally, I'm also celibate at present and have been for years. The reason is simple: sex for me, is something that is incredibly personal, and I would only ever want to do it with someone I am extremely close to. Since I don't have a relationship like that, I don't have sex. But I think, in the context of a relationship, sex can be a very healthy, fulfilling aspect of life. Many cultures (medieval Europe being one of them) regard sexuality with a level of fear, shame and repression that is entirely unnecessary, in my opinion. It's a form of mental illness.

@themanifester1807 2 жыл бұрын

@@ahobimo732 got you!

@ahobimo732 2 жыл бұрын

@@themanifester1807 I don't mean to be rude, but do you mind if i ask why you're voluntarily celibate? Is it a religious vow? Are you asexual? . It just seems like an unusual choice otherwise.

@themanifester1807 2 жыл бұрын

@@ahobimo732 oh, no, I am a very passionate person. And no such religious vows. It’s just that I got into tarot about 3-4 years ago, because of which I started understanding human nature and men better. Well, now I understand men better, and have become kinder and more empathetic to their needs, weaknesses, etc., but, unfortunately, I also lost my interest in them. 🤷🏻‍♀️ As I walk the streets, or look at men at work, etc., they just don’t spark my interest as men anymore. Perhaps, the problem is that I consider myself to be quite different from other people, and my man would have to be someone “special” as well. Someone who conquered his demons, for example, or survived despite all odds, would do. Lol! I don’t expect the situation to improve, however. As I expect to do better and better financially - and that attracts a slew of men with ulterior motifs.

@thebloodgod5885 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for not glossing over queer people too. So refreshing to have a historian mention queer sex and gender without judgement.

@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 2 ай бұрын

Well, why would a historian judge? That's not their job... Plus, what is there to judge to begin with?

@thebloodgod5885 2 ай бұрын

@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 historians have judged quite a lot previously. "Both women never took a husband and lived together in their country home for 30 years until their death. Their joint tombstone reads 'best friends'"

@michaelwinter742 7 ай бұрын

Saw this video on my feed and I couldn’t stop clicking.

@lohphat 2 жыл бұрын

History is why I appreciate antibiotics, anesthesia, and the rest of modern medicine.

@thatdude1066 2 жыл бұрын

My love for history makes me appreciate the present and all it has to offer.

@fangslaughter1198 2 жыл бұрын

Especially anesthesiology.

@BlessYourHeart254 2 жыл бұрын

Same 👏👏👏. Nice to not have died in childbirth as many women did then.

@nancytestani1470 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely…

@skylance25 2 жыл бұрын

I like soap and toilet paper

@dewilew2137 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe there’s other people who actually think about things like this other than myself. Also, I can’t be the only person who was confused about why she kept referring to Courtney Love. It wasn’t until far into the video that I realized she was saying “courtly love”. 😅

@narcisoanasui246 2 жыл бұрын

LOL

@Debbie1304 Жыл бұрын

same!!

@jamesmansfield9276 Жыл бұрын

Yesssss I was like WTF DOES SHE HAVE TO DO WITH THIS?!?!😂😂😂

@OneRandomLeo Жыл бұрын

Same

@slydale Жыл бұрын

"Me", too

@maxadhdking 22 күн бұрын

The Chaucer “women don’t have beards” joke had me wheezing 😂😂😂

@Fete_Fatale 8 ай бұрын

8:40 I can't help but feel that there's an obvious double entendre in that 'concealed wound'

@omicroneridani7456 2 жыл бұрын

Every video with Professor Janega is so damn worth watching. Certainly not the only historian I personally appreciate, but one of the most effective and enthralling, on a screen.

@thoughtful_criticiser Жыл бұрын

I'm watching this video during the week that my daughter's school, founded in medieval times, is allowing me to go through the library's older books. I will keep a lookout in the margins!

@emu314159 5 ай бұрын

"We tend to think about sex work as being this really modern invention..." Um, for such a smart person, she seems to not know the expression "oldest profession." I recall from Latin study inscriptions on walls in Pompeii referring to brothels.

@miguelproenca3447 5 ай бұрын

Stopped the documentary right there, that's a huge miss 😅

@elizabethbarker5276 10 ай бұрын

Something I find interesting is that individuals in the college setting in United States at least have similar views to the Medieval people. Fart jokes and chat about sex is normal as well as small quarters and shared rooms with roommates so finding a place to have sex is interestingly similar and hearing someone have sex or accidentally popping in on a couple doing the deed is not atypical and is discussed about or joked about. Seeing it in public or in dark corners when walking back to your dorm is not uncommon and for me was just a shrug of the shoulders and I went about my night 🤷🏼‍♀️ so interesting how time and history plays out!

@VivKittie32 10 ай бұрын

Those were the days. 😂

@kevinmorgan2968 Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand how this woman does not have her own show.

@alanwayte432 Жыл бұрын

Either of them, they are easy and informative to listen to

@catalina-b 7 ай бұрын

It the presenter doesn’t back up her statements with any proof

@JJONNYREPP 2 ай бұрын

What Were Medieval Attitudes Towards Sex? | Medieval Pleasures 1544pm 25.6.24 i know right.... personal tutorage...? women flying nobs? witches obviously....

@yensid4294 2 жыл бұрын

The no privacy thing might have been the real reason why there was advice against getting fully naked. It was common courtesy lol.

@peterkoller3761 Жыл бұрын

only from your(!) standpoint that a naked human body is something offensive. maybe the medievals were less prudish.

@karenjohnson5634 Жыл бұрын

@@peterkoller3761 I think she meant that as a joke!! Makes sense though.

@PC-kd7dj 10 ай бұрын

For the ~2/3 who survived childhood diseases in medieval times, the average age of death was about 50. So, eat, drink, and be merry!

@jehendrick Ай бұрын

It wasn't so much that the Church didn't want people to have fun. They, in fact, expected people to have fun--to sin--because it insured their job as intermediary between common people and God. If people didn't sin, they would be of a job. That's why most things that are fun, are considered to be sinful by the Church. The same is true to this very day.

@Mr_Eyeholes 2 жыл бұрын

They knew no one would obey their sex rules, they just wanted to hear the details in the confessional booth.

@DivineSparkStudios Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@tonytidbits2465 2 жыл бұрын

"she had a really great shoe collection, and then she found christ" lmfao

@ouchiedumpling2552 6 ай бұрын

Can we just have a weekly podcast/video/stream with Eleanor and Kate? Please????

@michellestratford9753 Жыл бұрын

I want a list of those pick up lines!! They're fabulous!😅😂. Great video!❤️

@Michael-bf1dt 8 ай бұрын

Hi Michelle how are you. Greetings from Ireland. It’s a good video. Best wishes to you 👍🙏😊 Michael

@emily9913 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve always been curious about how things revolving around sex was like back in those days. Thank you so much for a great video! Learnt so much 😊

@muzak913 Жыл бұрын

@@Michael-bf1dt man down, man down

@esmeecampbell7396 Жыл бұрын

27:30 so Courtley Love literature has a "this could really destroy our dynastic succession" trope and it is the Medieval equivalent of "oh no step bro I'm stuck in the washing machine" 🤣

@muddatucker9389 Жыл бұрын

“We tend to think of sex work as quite a modern thing” pretty sure lots of people know it’s literally the oldest profession in the world..???

@jsrodman 10 ай бұрын

I tried a few times to figure out what you were saying the Grape Alley meant, and I still have no idea.

@jsrodman 10 ай бұрын

Update, wikipedia had the answer. Rude words follow! "In the city of York, for instance, Grapcunt Lane-grāp is the Old English word for grope-was renamed as Grape Lane" I suspect part of the explanation got edited down for youtube''s war on obscenity.

@Emily_M81 10 ай бұрын

Vienna really put a new meaning to "coming with bells on" lol...

@hollyjhager 2 жыл бұрын

Wonderful translation of real scholarly history into something interesting for the general public-love it!

@KingsPriest 2 жыл бұрын

@lopopachope 2 жыл бұрын

Was always confused when people used the term “sodomy” because I only ever heard it in the context of an*l and sexual assault so I would get confused if I heard it used in different situations. I’m glad you fully defined it as I now understand!

@TsukiKatana 2 жыл бұрын

I believe the legal definitions vary. I've also heard Sodomy specifically regarding male on male anal.... action that could be defined as forced for consensual, depending on the phobias of the judge. Also changes if Buggery is a defined legal term as well.

@magnificent6668 Жыл бұрын

If you know Judaism, the source of Islam and Christianity---it is the penis entering any orifice besides the vagina.

@spicyirwin5835 Жыл бұрын

U cannot procreate with sodomy but somehow it led to ppl hating gays bc of Bibles translation wasnt clear on procreation. So sad!🙏✌️

@SStupendous Жыл бұрын

It varies, but generally universally is a**l, doing animals, pedophillia, casuals and raping people's wives and daughters (rape has always been seen to be wrong, but for different reasons as back then you were abusing someone's property - a woman.) Other than the first one the rest - quite rightly should be so - are still considered pretty bad. Some American Conservatives or Africans will tell you gay stuff is also sodomy.

@GafftheHorse Жыл бұрын

Named after one of the mythical biblical cities. I've often wondered though,what's 'gamorah'?

@MadameSomnambule Жыл бұрын

I got into a comic book series set in the middle ages and I’ve been looking into irl medieval history since then out of curiosity. It’s really cool to get even just a small look at what everyday life was like and how our social norms have changed since then.

@elizaveta157 8 ай бұрын

Mind sharing the book series' name?

@kimjongun2081 7 ай бұрын

@@elizaveta157I’m curious

@strega0 10 ай бұрын

OMG KATE LISTER AND ELEANOR JANEGA IN ONE VIDEO??? QUEENS!

@onestrangeanimal3212 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, this completely changed my views on medieval people's relationship to sex. Truly interesting and I was really relieved to learn that they did enjoy themselves.

@t.c.a.3335 2 жыл бұрын

what many people don't realize nor is it taught in high school literature... I don't know if it's taught in college level English Literature... but Romance writings like that of Lord Byron (who was married) were not based on his love for his wife... it was based on his "Romantic" liaisons with other women... any married couple will tell you that "romance" is fleeting... Romance is the chemical rush of newness... of trying to "lure" and impress another to become interested and flirt... to engage in cerebral jousting with the intension and thrill of the "hunt" and "conquest" and that is NOT a one-sided game... Women show their "assets" to attract attention either with the goal of marriage or "just for the fun of it" and the challenge... same as men... if a person is "inspired" they can create reams of romantic dialogue... but once that chemical stimulation is gone they need a New Challenge to get that feeling back... that is a True Romantic... they may marry, but they must have that continual romantic stimulation for emotional survival...

@gregoryalan9757 2 жыл бұрын

I was checking the comments and I unearthed your profile, and though you seemed worth talking to, so i added you. Hope you don't mind?

@KingsPriest 2 жыл бұрын

@Lo55790 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, we know men view marriage as co-opting a woman to slave away for them and they have no respect for their devotion. Thats why it’s happening less. Finally. Thanks for stating the obvious.

@Yellow-Rose Жыл бұрын

@@t.c.a.3335 I agree with you on continual romantic stimulation. There's nothing more romantic than true love. It doesn't matter if you're newlyweds, or if you've been married for 30 years, you can still do little romantic things for each other. However the hunt and conquest can be in keeping your partner and making the relationship last. That's the true conquest. I don't believe romance is about winning someone over and then discarding them. To me that's just deceit and lust.

@selinaw3342 Жыл бұрын

I suspect the slang “lavender” for “prostitute” had more to do with the Latin word “lavare” - from which we get lave (English) and lavar (Spanish) and other similar words - which means “to wash”. (Also where we get “lavatory” in English). Sure, they might have used lavender in the soaps, but they were basically saying “the lady who comes in to scrub your back at the public bathhouse is also a prostitute.”

@AncientStoriesVideos 2 ай бұрын

I love your channel's focus on ancient stories. You always pick such interesting ones! Thanks for your work

@Moja_Bosna_Ponosna 11 ай бұрын

Medieval period has really unique yet fascinating things to get pleasure for themselves, unlike in this era where pleasure is really easy-to-use. Shout out to this channel for the very nice information!😸

@ginao6810 11 ай бұрын

Totally. You gotta take what you can get. You may not be able to afford a life of luxury, but an orgasm is free 👍

@JJONNYREPP 2 ай бұрын

What Were Medieval Attitudes Towards Sex? | Medieval Pleasures 1539pm 25.6.24 a ship's cook and hedgehog. i see no problem with that kindda job. we have nowadays priests call round these days eg: political process asking if we have issues that need ironing out. in most cases i would say they're self evident... privacy is a boon. idiots who dont appreciate that are unseemly and pretty much unwelcome... gettin' laid...... discuss.

@steviestone1668 2 жыл бұрын

'Marriage - kind of like sex work, but one man at a time...' You have to love her honesty, if nothing else!

@magsteel9891 2 жыл бұрын

That's not honesty, it's just a shit attitude

@Powerhaus88 2 жыл бұрын

A dogshit comparison

@madonnaborromeo3961 2 жыл бұрын

And come Friday he gives you his paycheck!

@madonnaborromeo3961 2 жыл бұрын

So cookin cleaning washing and ironing plus the bed performance is our duty and the fringe benefit is the pay check on Fridays!

@magsteel9891 2 жыл бұрын

@@madonnaborromeo3961 Marriage is more than just a division of responsibilities between spouses. Somebody has to generate an income for the family, somebody has to do domestic stuff, some people do both. Certainly if you are single you will be doing both, right? But your sex life with the person you committed to shouldn't be treated like just one more dumb task that needs to be performed, maybe somewhere between a zoom call and taking out the trash. If you're seeing sex with your spouse as a chore then do him a favor and let him find someone else who actually wants him and not just what he can provide.

@briankocheraabcdt4628 Жыл бұрын

Reading Chaucer in English Literature class gave me a glimpse of how things were. Specifically, The Wyfe of Bath's story in Canterbury Tales was no doubt more ribald and saucy in Middle English than the Modern English translation. Still the translation does offer a good glimpse into medieval people's sexual appetites.

@kevineholmes9572 11 ай бұрын

Wyfe of Bath and I would have been besties

@NiechoBGC 10 ай бұрын

Love the time! Still remember having to learn by heart the prologue in the accent. Over 30+ years later, I can still recite it... Whan that Aprill with his shoures soote / The droghte of March hath perced to the roote / And bathed every veyne in swich licour / Of which vertu engendred is the flour....

@rgnotdead 10 ай бұрын

Prologue @@NiechoBGC The Merchant's Tale made me laugh, everyone thinks The Miller's Tale is the bawdiest, try reading The reeve's Tale.

@Lizzy514 11 ай бұрын

The church gaslit people about their most personal notions and thereby uncontrolled world. Kind of what is happening today

@brendanberne1970 Ай бұрын

Loved it! Where were the gay men? Not all of us identify with ‘queer’ as a word. And the trans story was great but again a different world. Would love an update to this! Well done.

@bobbygreen2134 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Eleanor Janega is wonderful. I saw her do a historian reacts to medieval movies and just listening to her talk about history was awesome love her enthusiastic delivery as she talks about this stuff

@resnonverba137 Жыл бұрын

Shame she can't speak English properly.

@ShoeboxNinjasInc Жыл бұрын

"Which is sex work, one man at a time." Gold.

@dawnkindnesscountsmost5991 3 күн бұрын

0:20 "... be prepared to hear a few harsh words and shocking truths." (pulls up my big girl pants) I'm prepared. I'm READY!

@antoniobroccoliporto4774 11 ай бұрын

The platform shoes were common with women to prevent getting excrement on ones’s clothes and it would raise you and the hem of your dress off the filthy city streets…not exclusive to prostitute.