"The risk I took was calculated, but man, am I bad at math." -Wesley

Outside: Do you really think that I'd put a loaded gun on the table? Inside: SHIT! SHIT! SHIT! HOLY FUCK THAT WAS STUPID! SHIT!

I guess he was stupid enough to put a loaded gun on the table.

Frank Castle would be so proud.

Daredevil's senses aren't nearly as superhuman as Wesley's pokerface.

This guy will kill it at Poker.

I think it’s so fucking clever that Fisk calling Wesley, one of the only people he cares for, is the reason Wesley died. 10/10 show

"You really think this the first time I shoot some one?" Now I get it.

This show has the most balls of any project Marvel has ever done. I love it.

I fucking love this scene. Karen was the most unlikely character to take out Fisk's right hand man.

Also I love Wesley's expression after the first shot. Looking back and forth between the bullet wound and Karen. He looks more shocked and confused than anything, because he didn't foresee this at all. Up to this point, Wesley was able to successfully manipulate anyone he wanted to and thought he could do the same here; which is why he was in complete disbelief that this was actually happening. The actor who played James Wesley really pulled off the subtleties of the character incredibly well.

"Seven times. I shot him... seven times, Foggy. Because I wanted him dead..." Yup... 7 shots... Had to count a few times, but yep. There's seven.

Wesley is Kingpin's voice of reason and one of his few true friends. After he is killed, Kingpin loses his shit and then...

"I shot him seven times...because the clip ran out. He deserved more." After the threats Wesley made, I'm inclined to agree.

Did anyone come here to confirm she shot him seven times?

She's shaken and disturbed by what she's down, yet she still has the foresight to take the weapon, wipe for fingerprints, and leave the body. Such an interesting character.

I love the fact that Wesley was kind of awesome but I kind of hated him too. But after he gets killed you kind of miss him and you start to appreciate him and miss him, even the actor's performance. Most shocking moment for me hands down. At least that was my experience. What do you think? Does anyone here love Wesley too?

Everyone is upset about his death, but I think it was really smart. It showed he makes mistakes. This one being his last clearly.

Congratulations. You played yourself

I was so sad to see this happen to wesley he was the most loyal assistant ever

Badass. I can't tell you how many times in a movie or TV show where the hero has the villain at gunpoint and the villain's all "oh you won't kill me, you're weak and stupid blah blah blah" and the hero doesn't because of their morals or because they think they need them or whatever. Karen was just like fuck that and started some shit. Awesome, dear girl.

I loved this character/actor. He seems like such a sinister businessman. He would make an excellent G-Man in a Half Life Movie.

1:39 I used to think she said this to intimidate him but after Season 3 we know she’s serious...

I love how Wesley's end was brought on by his obsessive loyalty to Fisk. Because his first instinct was to answer his boss's phone call, he turned his gaze away from the gun and Karen, and rushed immediately to his phone.

I was cheering her on when she shot him...then she shot him 5 more times and i was like 0_0

He was my favorite character. Not sure why, always liked the sneaky henchman character. Probably why Starscream is my favorite Transformer.

I honestly love what this show did with Karen giving her a bit of a dark side despite being such a compassionate person. They really made her layered. Like her so much more than her comicbook counterpart.

I really missed Wesley, Fisk wasn't the same man after his death, it was a good movement for the story, but, it still hurts, I liked Wesley's character...

This was another great scene in the show. Karen was scared, alone, and vulnerable; I hate the damsels in distress. Wesley is an intriguing character whom I loved/hated making him brilliant. Thinking from Karen's perspective, Wesley: 1) Kidnapped her, 2) threatened her friends and family, 3) threatened her life. I cheered when she grabbed the gun and saved herself, it was self defense.

"He died quickly, didn't suffer much" ~ Girlboss Karen page

Damn, nobody’s gonna talk about the way the episode ended. The music keeps getting more intense as the phone rings, then stops and the screen fades to black yet you still hear the phone ringing right before the credits roll in. Gives me chills every time.

To be honest, I have to give it to this guy for keeping his cool when Karen managed to get his gun away from him. He was bluffing, but he managed to tell that lie with a straight face.

1:39 the foreshadowing to season 3 ep 10 is amazing oml

Wesley was easily one of my favorite characters. Honestly he was at times and even in this scene scarier than Fisk. Throughout the series you never see Wesley lose his cool. Unlike Fisk who is full of emotion, Wesley is almost devoid from emotion (other than the fact that he does truly love Fisk and would never betray him) and that is what makes him a scary villain.

_Wilson Fisk will remember that_

SPOILERS for DD S3 ---------------------- Karen: You want secrets? I can tell you a secret, Wilson. Okay if I call you that? I feel like we know each other well enough by now... Fisk: As you wish, Karen... Karen: Great. James Wesley... What was it like for you when he disappeared? Really, it’s those first 24 hours that are the worst, aren’t they? When you call and you call and you call, and there’s just NO answer. It becomes an obsession. The calling. The never-ending loop of a ghost’s voice wail in your ear. You worry. You wonder. You swear ‘Goddammit if he’s still living I’m gonna kill him myself.’ Is that what it was like for you? Did you rage at him? ‘Cause you thought he betrayed you? Because I wonder what would be worse for you? His duplicity or his death? Fisk: [Breathing heavily] Karen: [softly] He died quickly... If you were wondering. Didn’t suffer much. You see, Wilson, Matt Murdock isn’t the person you should be worried about... I killed Wesley. I shot him 7 times. Because the clip ran out. He deserved MORE. ---------------------- Chills dude. Utter chills. I love how they brought this scene back. This show is fucking amazing...

My Reaction: Okay Karen is going to use the gun to bluff her way out Ok she shot him NOW she's going to walk away HOLY SHI- HE DEAD HE DEAD HE DEAD

I think Wesley really thought Fisk was a good man. So much that he thought his ridiculous plan of trying to get Karen to convince Foggy, Murdock and Urich that Fisk is good would work because he truly believes that himself. Anyway, this is easily the most shocking scene in the entire show for me. Perhaps the saddest too since I think Wesley could have played a bigger part than Urich for at least another season and he could have been my favorite right hand man in decades. I think he's honestly my favorite villain in the show already. Edit: Also, Wesley's actor put on a great performance. One of the best in the show.

This scene was so badass. There’s always a scene like this in a movie where the character doesn’t take the opportunity. She did. FIRE

I feel like Wesley is one of the most underappreciated characters in the show. Guy was a great character who exuded calmness.

He's only evil with his glasses on

I loved that scene. It's such a cliche that the good girl never shoots, or the empty gun thing. When she actually killed him, I was YAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS

Punisher would be proud.

Am I the only one who thought he was one of the better characters and the deaths of he and Urich kind of felt like serious losses to the show? Like, not saying it was a bad decision, but I really liked those two characters :/

just rewatched season 1 and damn, why?? Wesley and Ben were so good and it's sad that we only get to see them for one season.

AAWWWW No. Wesly was too badass to be killed of that easily. :( I actually liked his character and how he always so collected and unnerved during the hardest of times along with being kind

When he says that he's not there because he wants to, but needs to. It makes me think that, given their strong friendship, he saw that he needed to help his friend. He's one of my favorite MCU characters.

She needs a really good lawyer.

This bit was so fucking tense!

She has more balls than batman

This scene will always be amazing. The part where she shot him many times and realized what she has done just screams smart and realistic writing these writers have.

The ultimate poker face because in his head you know he was freaking the fuck out.

I remember I cried when I watched episode 12, the scene Fisk react to Wesley's death is really heart-breaking :(

I don't know if it's the director or the actress but she handled the gun quite well. She immediately grasps it with 2 hands, the first place her finger goes is over the trigger guard which is a common resting positions for one of the big firearm rules, don't put your finger on the trigger unless you're ready to shoot. Of course she immediately is ready to shoot but there was that half second where she isn't sure and she's holding the gun properly at that moment. She even puts both thumbs on the left side of the gun. Frank really would be proud.

Wesley after he died: “Oh, so it was loaded”

Wesley at 2:20 be like: yep thats me you’re probably wondering how i ended up in this situation.

I must be a terrible person, I laughed so hard the first time I saw that scene XD. That was so unreal, he fucked up hard...

Just realized she wasn’t bluffing when she said “you think this is the first time I’ve shot someone”. She shot her psycho ex in season 3 trying to protect her brother.

I don't think a death scene could perfectly encapsulate a character quite like this. It's dumb of him to put a gun in the table, in retrospective, sure, it's stupid. But this is like a great mask off moment for Weasley. He's just a nerd. He walks badass, he talks with intimdation, but he has no power himself. even if he is the cog at the very top, he's still a cog. The way he looks to his bullet wound at the end is so cathartic, because you can see how confused he is, that he would ever get shot dead being a man so powerful and close to the kingpin. He died because his ego and lack of experience took control at the wrong time.

The way scenes look and sound, the dialogue, the performances and the cinematography is goddamn excellent!

great scene, but I agree with a lot of the comments here, Wesley was killed way too soon. was a great character

I stole this from Tumblr, but Wesley is essentially what a villainous Hufflepuff would look like.

Damn Wesley poker face is amazing

Honestly it was so dumb for him to put the gun on the table.

I fucking love her. I really don't get the hate towards this character; her development has been incredible.

RIP Wesley my favorite villain character in daredevil

It's great when a show isn't afraid of having impactful characters die, in unexpected, yet significant character developmental ways. And it shows great understanding to keep other characters around who leave their own imprint on the show, like Vanessa or Karen, etc. Wesley's death was key in Fisk's growth, as was Ben's death in Matt's growth. What a show, so excited for season 3!

Wesley’s fantasy: Wesley: the gun isn’t loaded……..so why don’t you just give me it back. Karen: if it’s not loaded why do you want it back? Wesley:……..well, that gun was a gift from my father before he died. Karen: shit! Sorry. Here you go. *hands the gun back to Wesley*

This is the same actor who got shanked by John Wick in the bathroom of the club

I digged this character, and the performance by this actor, SO FUCKING MUCH. Goddammit.

The acting just so GREAT IN THIS SCENE. Karen is so flawless

Wesley was pretty smart, but boy did he misjudge Karen. He didn't think she'd have the spine.

1:49 It was at this moment, Wesley knew... he fucked up.

1:49, I like how he looks at his shoulder and back at her as if to say, "wow you actually did it!"

THIS is how you deal with threats. You don't waste time with non-lethal force. I mean, what did Daredevil accomplish by letting Fisk live? NOTHING. Fisk quickly rebuilt his empire from prison.

in some ways, I think this was sort of intentional he left himself somewhat vulnerable, Wesley wanted a way out, He expressed his distaste of the environment he was surrounded with, and also questioned the stability of his employer.

Lol, this guy first gets killed for killing John Wick's dog. Now he gets killed in Daredevil for messing up with the girl. How is going to be killed in his next flick? XD

Spilers for Season 3 Karen confronts Fisk and tells him that she killed Wesley

This is the moment I fell in love with her. Because in most scenes, the girl in this situation always hesitates and forces us to scream at the screen, “JUST SHOOT HIM!” Karen, on the other hand, just Gives a total “FUCK YOU” expression and does what we have all been waiting for since the beginning of time. She doesn’t even let him finish. She doesn’t wait to see what happens next. She doesn’t let him say anymore that would let him get to her. She shoots him once. And then again and again. She wasn’t going to risk him surviving and coming back for her. She wanted him dead. And that’s exactly what she got.

I wish they would have kept Wesley alive for another season! He and Fisk together were so great! Loved their interactions!

Who else thinks this actor would make a perfect Dr. Doom

Finally they mention this in season 3.

I seriously don't understand what this guy was expecting. He's supposed to be this intimidating calculating cold-blooded psychopath, and he just leaves the gun on the table within grabbing range. Like okay it's hubris I guess, but what did you think your terrified combative hostage was going to do? Did you just have a brain fart and forget it was on the table when the phone rang? It's very silly and felt out of the blue, like a villain being taken out because they dropped a banana peel on the ground and slipped and hit their head.

The Wesley actor can play a great scarecrow in DC comics

The first gunshot. The face he's like "bitch seriously?"

In typical cliche scenes like this the gun would actually be unloaded, the character would be too scared to shoot, the character would be too scared to even pick up the gun, or the character would just use the gun to get away. She just straight up shot him no hesitation

The funny thing is Karen probably dealt more damage to fisk than Daredevil.

Love that they dealt with this in Season 3! The fact she is still struggling with this is so human

Fisk is a social Darwinist, a megalomaniacal narcissist, and an altogether evil man. Yet, seeing him standing there listening to the phone ring is among the most heart-wrenching moments on this show. Few performances can pull off that kind of dissonance.

Season 3 Page to Fisk: I killed Wesley.... I shoot him 7 times. Me💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

“Do you really think that I’d put a loaded gun on the table where you can reach it?” Congratulations, you just set yourself up.

This sure came back strong in season 3

everyone is blaming karen about killing wesley. but in the comics, she has a pretty dark arc. not just murdering or killing, but she auditions for an acting job, loses it, becomes a porn star and gets into drugs. that is how dark she gets. maybe, that is how her past was in this series.

Do y'all think Karen will eventually tell matt about this? I mean, Matt knows something is off with her ever since she killed Wesley. Maybe in season 2 she'll tell him?

I absolutely LOVED Wesley's character and Toby Leonard Moore's performance was sublime but this plot twist takes the cake. I couldn't believe it. It was a great moment in the series. This is my favorite moment in season 1, along with Wilson Fisk and Daradevil saying "take your shot" to each other, I fucking lost it there.

Deborah Ann Woll was just an incredible job playing Karen Page it's sad how she's not Returning in Born Again and probably recasting her as well 😭😭😭😭

I had to pour some beer out for this one.

Me the first time I saw this scene: Oh great, this iss going to be just like the walking dead, and it's going to take her a whole fucking episode just to pull the trig- Show: BANG BANG BANG Me: I'm... I'm sorry Daredevil for comparing you to that shit show...

Whose here after Daredevil Season 3? *SPOILERS* After the Episode 10 flashback, guess she wasn't lying about it being the first time she shot someone either haha

The fact that this comes back full circle in Season 3 is just amazing