Dark and Darker Longsword Lessons | How to Control and Manipulate Spacing in PvP!

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Dark and Darker Longsword Lessons | How to Control and Manipulate Spacing in PvP!

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Oggieson

Күн бұрын

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@genechong6952 11 ай бұрын

“Be like water my friend” be fluid

@5amura115 11 ай бұрын

Fellow Bruce fan. Respect.

@Pyronic3000 11 ай бұрын

That flex at the end was amazing. Great video thanks Oggie. I play Warlock often. I guess the repositioning is even more important with him.

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Positioning on warlock is definitely the most important part of the weapon since you're far squishier.

@uaintitman 11 ай бұрын

The 3v1 at the end could have been a whole video. Absolutely beautiful

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Appreciate it buddy!

@mediandirt 11 ай бұрын

Awesome content. An overlay that shows your key presses and your mouse would be awesome addition to the training! Are you thinking about releasing a video showing how to play a fight while in full gear? Or even show your preferred gear choices when playing with longsword?

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

I'll see about the mouse overlay, that would be neat. I will try and make a guide that talks about longsword across the different gear levels and how to approach fights, that would be good info to share as well!

@darkfriday-cu7gm 11 ай бұрын

Thanks, nice to get some insights from a seasoned veteran longsword bro. I am indeed a parry gremlin, I will definitely try to use more jumps and do the sprint surprise attack from now.

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Will definitely improve you ability to take fights I think!

@uNoCardiologist3110 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for this lesson! I have seen couple people (including myself) fishing parries, leaving the torso wide open to free attacks. Probably the hardest thing for me is to time the attacks against Horseman's Axe since Barbarians just run straight to your face with left mouse click spam. Keep up good work!

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Spacing is hard for everyone with longsword, myself included. I still get caught lacking as well with spacing as well. Much easier to W and left click than it is to manipulate space perfectly with a super slow weapon like longsword.

@jokester5130 11 ай бұрын

Admitted parry gremlin here lol Also I let the 3hit combo play out after thrust whiff hoping they step into 2nd or 3rd hit

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes you can miss the first hit to bait people into the second one since the time between 1/2 hit is pretty short.

@Goodgu3963 11 ай бұрын

Absolutely amazing video. Great lessons, and great demonstration of those lessons.

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Hopefully it's helpful!

@atomic_godz 9 ай бұрын

Your longsword gameplay is so satisfying to watch; a real mastery of the playstyle. Would love to see more gameplay even if its just highlight compilations

@Lolstarwar 11 ай бұрын

I remember you testing out where the actual blocking point of the longsword are back in the play tests. Now look at you a master of the longsword.

@true_plays_games 10 ай бұрын

This man out here giving real life lessons in a DND tutorial I love this

@theexsalted9352 11 ай бұрын

New Longsword lesson from Sensei oggieson just dropped bois! Thanks for the tips dawg, sometimes I even forget longsord has a regular attack 🤣

@briantrochim474 9 ай бұрын

as a Fighting Game Veteran, this was well done and well translated into the mechanics of this genre. great job. very helpful my dude!

@oggieson 9 ай бұрын

Glad it’s helpful buddy! Appreciate the kind words as well!

@colinchaput3586 5 ай бұрын

Amazing Vid, still super relevant. Thanks Oggie!

@oggieson 5 ай бұрын

Hope it was helpful to ya duder

@GuNdAmWiThYoU 6 ай бұрын

That last 3 vs 1 was kinda sick, destroy full squad by just one Long sword would be fantastic 😂

@oggieson 6 ай бұрын

It's a lot of fun to go into normals and try to win 1v3 fights with longsword. Very fun challenge

@StormOberyne 9 ай бұрын

Would love a video like this for warlock long sword

@oggieson 9 ай бұрын

I do need to put more time in on the warlock.

@JohnPsplashD 11 ай бұрын

Yo this tutorial is amazing, felt like a college/excel tutorial

@alimoorad5998 6 күн бұрын

Great video man!

@xpiesboss1003 24 күн бұрын

Very nice video. Thank you !

@mewthew8290 11 ай бұрын

you are so wise great longsword god i am learning the way

@kylegilbert5234 9 ай бұрын

Not a longsword player, but I'm still taking in your advice for other classes and thinking about general strategy.

@oggieson 9 ай бұрын

love to hear it!

@samxsARAN 11 ай бұрын

Great and great tips oggie as usual!!

@LilDolphinALB 16 күн бұрын

Great vid mate really enjoyable

@thomaslyons339 11 ай бұрын

Just had my 2nd longsword duel and won! Thanks for your tips bro really helps :)

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Hell yeah!

@cjfox2311 11 ай бұрын

This video at 4:20 is what I was talking about. Barbarian Phain from the caves.

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

My boy! There's a full video of the run that clip is from on the channel too!

@saucywings 11 ай бұрын

That mage not smoking you while you fought was class

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

He was a good guy for sure. Which doesn't happen often for wizards in solos xD

@TopDesu 9 ай бұрын

Thanks coach

@ary0shy 11 ай бұрын

so much skills ! thank you for this educational content :D

@sylvaincousineau5073 9 ай бұрын

''Be like water my friend'' - Bruce Lee

@jeremy98ADS 11 ай бұрын

4:41 be water my friend 😂

@cameronhendricks5967 11 ай бұрын

Getting hella blazed and watching some ogieson! I would be interested in some full streams or longer form content (such as maybe a permadeath?) if that would be something you would be interested in going through the effort of posting

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

I've thought about a permadeath run, but in a different format using a voice over and a narrated story line concept rather than just me playing the character till I die. Something like that might be fun for everyone to watch.

@cameronhendricks5967 11 ай бұрын

@@oggieson Anything longform would be amazing! I would be super interested in that series for sure

@CocoMura 11 ай бұрын

Appreciate the content. If they add more riposte weapons will you be doing weapon techs on those as well? And a request of mine; can you do a video on the Shield Bash differences between the shield sizes. Buckler Punch Kills are the most under used funny things I've ever experienced. Like; instant comedy. You can even duck >> swing straight up and pretend you're in street fighter. Trust.

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

I would love to see a couple more parry/riposte weapons, but I don't want the combat to devolve into a focus around that kind of combat interaction. I will try some shield bashing for the memes for you lol. Sounds like it could be fun.

@hunterlikeskfc1972 6 ай бұрын

3v1 was cold

@Rumpled4skin95 11 ай бұрын

just saw you in discord. Longsword forever!!!

@caseysuttonwrites 11 ай бұрын

This video was fantastic. Watched it several times. Also made a new fighter named ParryGremlin in honor of this video! 😂

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Hell yeah great name lol

@jardanicrosx6749 Ай бұрын

I watched your video about the Longsword Masterclass, and it gave me a great understanding of using the longsword in PvE. Could you create one that explains how to parry players as well? Also, how do you attack way quicker after a block of a longsword? i immitated the reposte thingy but it's not working for me

@oggieson Ай бұрын

I have an older video of it from back during playtests that is still pretty relevant to the current game. Most hitboxes and attacks are the same and it has all the original weapons at least. However, it doesn't teach you how to parry against those that know how to fight. I held a 1v1 event with my community last week and I'm using a bunch of clips from it to help show how to fight each weapon vs players that know how to get around longsword and how to fight it. Hopefully have it out by the weekend. Here's a link to the old PvP video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7hggpppu9OXhac.html Also my riposte comes out faster because I use the shield mastery perk. It's the only mandatory perk for longsword imo

@jardanicrosx6749 Ай бұрын

@@oggieson wow! thanks for responding! I will check this one out! More power to you and you got a subscribe and like from me!

@GladiatorKirion 10 ай бұрын

great video

@heinacat 7 ай бұрын

manipulate space and reality🙏 sensei

@oggieson 7 ай бұрын

That's about what I'm suggesting isn't it xD

@ageguy 11 ай бұрын

Godly video

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Hopefully it was helpful buddy!

@BrotherMatias 11 ай бұрын

Great video Brother Oggie.

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy!

@fuckdyoud2734 11 ай бұрын

Personally, as someone who has tried almost all of the 2hers, zwei, bardiche, halberd, war maul, all the axes, I find the longsword to be the strongest among them purely due to the potential it has for amazing satisfying plays. Im not sure why its the only weapon with a parry- and return fire mechanic. It would be sick if the bardiche (which also can hold a static block with right click) also had a similar horizontal flick post block, one that would use the momentum of the strike to swing the axe blade into the enemy would be sick. I love the combat in this game but it feels very movement and ranged dominant atm due to a lack of real melee threats like this. Most of them are very readable and kitable.

@zacharyjackson1829 11 ай бұрын

i wish the quarterstaff had a punish mechanic with its block.

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Bardiche would be pretty strong with a parry/riposte type feature. Most of the game has been sleeping on it up until now as is xD but I'd like to see a couple other weapons have individual features like longsword with the parry and riposte in some form. But by outright strength I think the longsword is lacking. With the inconsistencies in the server and dsync right now it's very easy to get around longsword parries from an attackers pov and the weapon has dreadful dps and on hit slow so it's become a bit of a gimmicky "parry and win" type weapon which is a bit of a bummer imo

@ThisThing5649 11 ай бұрын

best vid yet! super fucking helpful

@davidtsang7086 11 ай бұрын

Keep up the good work

@findrest3073 11 ай бұрын

What perks do you suggest with fighter longsword & crossbow

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Depending on gear tier, Shield Mastery, Barricade, Counter Attack, and Swift is my usual. If I have good gear and want to push more PDR I will drop Counter Attack for Defense Mastery

@elliejelly- 11 ай бұрын

SOO COOL

@youngphil8766 11 ай бұрын

Nice video! What mic are you using?

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

I have a hyper x quadcast.

@josephgaetano6751 11 ай бұрын

Kill feed at 4:18 damn bro calm down

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Had a couple kills that time

@TrapKelly Ай бұрын

How do you attack immediately after a parry? It does not work for me like that

@oggieson Ай бұрын

Right click after parrying

@brooksybaby03 Ай бұрын

I play duos and consistently die to ranged. Even when I hide and begin my sprint in longsword range my oponents are capable of absorbing enough blows (or phantomize) to sheath their weapons and run. I hang myself out to dry and get caught in a short and bitter game of chicken. Do I need to bring a shield as a secondary? (My movespeed is usually somewhere around 295)

@oggieson Ай бұрын

Yeah it's an issue in the game that's been pretty consistent. When I played to take fights in optimized manners it was a requirement to have weapon mastery and a bow in duos or to have a ranged teammate with me. You do a lot more shooting with bows/crossbows than attacking with melee weapons when playing to win in duos

@brooksybaby03 Ай бұрын

@@oggieson I see, I see. I will git gud. I was hoping you would hold me and tell me everything was going to be ok.

@huntereiben3183 11 ай бұрын

I too have been a parry gremlin 😔

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

It gets to us all lol

@charleshixon1458 7 ай бұрын

What movement speed do you recommend you play with when using a LS?

@oggieson 6 ай бұрын

Literally as much as you can. With the new stat split that game this wipe you should prioritize Vig/Agi as number 1 stats. Then dex and str

@Lurowene 11 ай бұрын

how do we deal with getting oneshot out of stealth by a naked rogue

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

We grab a fresh gray longsword from our stash and run it back xD. Until they address rogue damage burst we just lose as longsword players it's quite a bummer

@RTemiy 11 ай бұрын

just wow, I need a lot of practice... Should I buy a gray gear if I have money on it? if I just go with default + longsword, I die very fast from range attacks

@shanephelps9532 11 ай бұрын

Longsword -> Bow/Xbow -> Consumables -> Armor is the order of importance.

@KEM0N0 11 ай бұрын

I buy longsword, crossbow/bow, 1healing pot, leather gloves and loose trousers, lightfoot boots if they're there. That's my set for when I'm ratting. Gray/White plate armor just doesn't feel worth it, I go for movespeed over armor until I have green/blue plate.

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

I often just go in default gear and longsword. Fighter in general is very gear dependent since our stat line is garbage. A barb can get a gray horseman's and be as strong as you in green plate, just how the scaling works with fighters so if you're losing fights don't take it too hard, base kit fighter is mega bad. For ranged issues I would suggest weapon mastery perk and longbow until you're more confident hitting shots and then try the crossbow from there.

@cargoraygaming9274 11 ай бұрын

Does jumping make u cover more distance than just walking??

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Jumping helps keep your head out of reach as you're repositioning in case the other player lands a hit is what really matters with the jump imo

@kazaren 11 ай бұрын

4:44 be WATER my friend

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

Accurate! Lol

@ButtChug96 11 ай бұрын

Oggieeeee

@froozen6294 11 ай бұрын

Mister, but i play warlock with longsword. I dont have sprint.

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

The price you pay for power! BoC poke them and then make them space for you as they fear the power of your warlocky longsword lol. Outside of the goofy answer tho I got nothing to help xD haven't played longsword warlock enough still to give y'all good tips with it. Hopefully in the near future.

@type_fool 7 ай бұрын

Any tips for parrying rapiers

@oggieson 7 ай бұрын

Trying to bait them into hitting with the second attack is usually my best bet. Tank the first and aim high off the right of their head to parry the second if you're spaced properly in tight. Good rogues gonna only poke and back off most likely though

@DBent_ 10 ай бұрын

ARE YOU STILL USING SAME PERKS??? AS LAST VIDEO

@oggieson 10 ай бұрын

Yes mostly the same perks every run

@Spirosbotos 11 ай бұрын

oggie what perks do i go with brother

@oggieson 11 ай бұрын

The standard go to is Shield Mastery, Barricade, Counter Attack, Swift. When I'm in big plate (blue/purple) I often have been dropping Counter Attack for Defense Mastery in order to get more PDR since it's hard to get good PDR numbers as a 2h fighter and PDR is the only thing carrying fighters right now.