Dark and Darker Longsword Masterclass | Updated Parrying Guide to PvE in the Crypts!

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Oggieson

Oggieson

Ай бұрын

Dark and darker longsword masterclass updated parrying guide to pve in the crypts video today! Longsword bros have been showing up in droves since f2p went live and it's awesome to see! Getting out a fresh look at the parrying for PvE in the crypts today with some better resolution recording and some sharper more crisp slowmo into still frames to help people get a better idea of their parrying positions they need. Hopefully this'll help our timmy longsword squire bros from the f2p pick up on what they need to speed through the crypts and get to that glorious combat faster.
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@nalu9570
@nalu9570 Күн бұрын
Skeleton Footman 0:33 Skeleton Guardsman 1:38 Skeleton Spearman 3:09 Skeleton Axeman 3:30 Skeleton Zweihander 5:20 Mummy 6:44 Zombie 7:46 Skeleton Archer 8:37 Skeleton Crossbowman 9:12 Wraith 9:36 Skeleton Champion 10:56 that's about it.
@oggieson
@oggieson Күн бұрын
@@nalu9570 Ty Nalu
@johnvargo1242
@johnvargo1242 Ай бұрын
tbh warlock is really good for learning how to use longsword for pve. infinite heals mean infinite practice
@JonYugen
@JonYugen Ай бұрын
Yes! Exactly, shadow touch is nice, especially if you end up accidentally getting hit through failed ripostes. Other than that, it does feel MUCH slower because of the lack of the blocking perks on warlock.
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Very true!
@joelmaster329
@joelmaster329 Ай бұрын
Yes but no shield mastery :(
@CowboobsYT
@CowboobsYT Ай бұрын
I run Melee only Longsword warlock. Ghost and Shadow blade skill things. Has great burst and for pvp, back line pressure. You can ghost through front line and cause chaos.
@JonYugen
@JonYugen Ай бұрын
I have a feeling a lot of F2P have no idea what the squire is and that he can provide a longsword for free. I would've definitley made note of that at the intro of the video, or even just make a comment down here about it and pin it. Overall, great video Oggie! I pray us longsword bros get more love at some point with later updates on the hitbox : |
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
That woulda been a good idea for sure. I might make a defacto beginner longsword guide sometime soon
@jasado7908
@jasado7908 Ай бұрын
@@oggieson Do it, please.
@fadedchicken
@fadedchicken 7 күн бұрын
This is so freaking good I’ve been pulling my hair out using the Longsword because I didn’t know that the hit boxes on the pve weapons were so scuffed. Always getting hit when I see their swing hit the fricking sword
@oggieson
@oggieson 6 күн бұрын
Yeah this is the worst it's ever been actually. Not sure what Ironmace did, but they improved the dsync between players and scuffed the interaction between PvE. Idk how any of it works but I won't lie, I like having more reliable PvP encounters than PvE lol
@meyta6400
@meyta6400 10 күн бұрын
You are definitely the commander of the knights with the long sword ⚔
@BaneofMills247
@BaneofMills247 Ай бұрын
I would like to see a parry for nightmares please. You're the only Dark and Darker youtuber I like.
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Gotcha. Gonna be a couple days tho lol
@uNoCardiologist3110
@uNoCardiologist3110 Ай бұрын
Great work, Oggieson! I would recommend putting timestamps on these monsters so people can easily select the ones they're having problems with. The biggest problem for me right now with parrying is the off sync and lag. I can see attacks going through my sword and it's frustrating. Thanks again for the content!
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Dammit I always forget lol
@professorsarge2770
@professorsarge2770 Ай бұрын
You inspired me to master the longsword. Thank you for all the helpful videos.
@brooksybaby03
@brooksybaby03 16 күн бұрын
This has enlightened me that I am incapable of mastering the longsword but it looks too fun not to try. :)
@WesiteTheTestie
@WesiteTheTestie Ай бұрын
Thank you for all the time you put into this, loving learning from you and practicing. Makes it fun to then teach my friends that just started playing
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Hopefully it’s helpful buddy
@rogirek3362
@rogirek3362 19 күн бұрын
I find it easier to remember where the tip of the longsword should be, rather than where the crosshair should be. Especially when you want to be turned left, because you can precisely say "aim the tip of the sword at the skeleton's neck" instead of "look about one skeleton width to the left and one skull over his head".
@ItsBunnyHD
@ItsBunnyHD Ай бұрын
Thanks for all the work you do making these videos! Much love
@Volpasaur
@Volpasaur 20 күн бұрын
man I am enjoying your videos. thank you. I appreciate the new player kindness and instruction.
@TheRazeryan
@TheRazeryan 21 күн бұрын
Thank so much for posting this, I send this to the new fighters who love longsword and want to get better
@oggieson
@oggieson 21 күн бұрын
Hell yeah buddy!
@hiraplol
@hiraplol Ай бұрын
I love how you edit the parry sweetspots. Hoping you could do one of these for the cave troll and ogre.
@Tom2182
@Tom2182 Ай бұрын
With the Skeleton axeman , I found that u can parry the horizontal swing by crouching down and look right a bit . Your videos really helped me a lot during my learning phase for parrying with the longsword thx
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
That method definitely works as well. Catches up by the hilt. Gotta make sure you turn enough or it accidentally headshots you sometimes tho lol
@DasUngesehene
@DasUngesehene 10 күн бұрын
This helped so much thank you
@oggieson
@oggieson 9 күн бұрын
Glad it helped buddy
@user-ih8eu9bh6x
@user-ih8eu9bh6x Ай бұрын
thanks so much man ive been wanting to play longsword and just couldnt get it!
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Hopefully it helps
@kenzej8710
@kenzej8710 28 күн бұрын
I found that with the guardsman, if you put your tip of the blade when in a defensive stance into his mouth it will block the attack. This is how ive been doing it xD
@oggieson
@oggieson 25 күн бұрын
I’ll try this!
@derapprentice
@derapprentice Ай бұрын
i would love a guide on how to build longsword fighter explaining perks and skills, and gear set up. future vid maybe? anyway love the content man. have a good weekend.
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
I am due for one of these now that they nerfed sprint so hard it's tough to properly build a fighter. I'll have to run some geared HR/Normals stuff and get a better idea of what's working right now. I can at least do that for solos, don't have a trios team anymore but I can theory craft that I suppose
@derapprentice
@derapprentice Ай бұрын
That would be amazing thank you man
@despicabletaylor
@despicabletaylor Ай бұрын
What I learned from this vid even with 700 hours: mummies have increased PDR when rising from the ground and Skeleton Spearman only do the overhead when you're closed in on them
@j.d.4697
@j.d.4697 Ай бұрын
The axe hitboxes seem fine to me cause it looks like you have to hit the axe head and not the shaft, which makes sense cause the blade extends further towards your body, plus axes are heavy and there is a certain amount of give to such a parry, at least IRL.
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t mind this if it was consistent for shields too but as it is the shields also have it hit through cuz of it lol
@user-rv5xt7mm7g
@user-rv5xt7mm7g Ай бұрын
OGI OGI OGI!!! keep up! i start play LS on yours vid. And now i cant stop. Playing another weapon is boring and feels no dmg after ripost... Cheers mate!
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
I feel ya buddy! Most other weapons are big boring
@hoodwinky1
@hoodwinky1 Ай бұрын
Thanks for your efforts! Have you made people at Ironmace aware of the work you do here? Had me thinking it might save them some QA time if any they hadn't experimented with internally.
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Hmm I don’t think anyone at Ironmace watches these lol. They only have a couple English speakers on the team as it is and one of them is the ceo and he definitely doesn’t watch xD. I think their team is still just a bit too small to catch everything. I also think some of this was rushed out with less polish than usual because of the steam/epic release they pushed for
@hoodwinky1
@hoodwinky1 Ай бұрын
@@oggieson Perhaps they're too busy with the circumstances -- but they have stated in the last few patches they have an interest in adding skill expression to melee combat so I imagine this is solidly relevant to what they want to accomplish in that regard. If they don't notice it, give 'em a poke. Re: their understanding, I'd say you don't need much english to understand your video :). Worth a shot if it helps the game I'd say. SDF I think is just not as comfortable speaking, I think his understanding is pretty good. Thanks again for getting a lot of my friends into longsword, looking forward to more of the 2000s-era frag videos.
@oggieson
@oggieson 26 күн бұрын
Find the nightmare variant parries here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qL6eZ7Bq0qysaaM.htmlsi=eFmAwuqpUeV6qbA7 Thanks for the support and hope the videos help!
@CrippledPepe
@CrippledPepe Ай бұрын
You can dodge wraith's charge attack by crouching and looking straight up or down iirc
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Hmm. Haven’t had this work since they added the dash attacking lower
@ViperGTS_R
@ViperGTS_R Ай бұрын
I assume longsword doesn't have hitbox near the hilt of the blade. I might think that longsword has same block hitbox size about quarterstaff, so why longsword has no block hitbox near tip of the blade and near the hilt. I assume this out since playtest 4. And I always tried to catch where the centre aim icon placed.
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Hmm. Longsword has a hitbox from the hilt to the the tip. I’ve caught parries from players in every spot on the weapon just because of how long I’ve played xD
@vl8680
@vl8680 Ай бұрын
yo thanks a lot for this
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Hopefully it’s helpful man
@poplocker1234
@poplocker1234 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video Kevin Hart!
@davidtsang7086
@davidtsang7086 Ай бұрын
Nice vid
@kersower1179
@kersower1179 29 күн бұрын
How to parry an attack? I manage to block attacks, but I don't understand how to counterattack after the block
@oggieson
@oggieson 25 күн бұрын
Sorry buddy all you need to do after a block is click your block button again to do the riposte attacks
@brooksybaby03
@brooksybaby03 16 күн бұрын
Firstly im bad at this. That said, I instinctively want to crouch while blocking to make my hit box smaller, ALWAYS, for both PvE and PvP. I do realize this puts my head in additional danger. Should i break this habit? Also the damage buff post parry. Is this on a timer? Is it used on the first swing or first hit during this timer? Can you proc it more than once?
@oggieson
@oggieson 16 күн бұрын
@@brooksybaby03 there are some reliable PvE parry positions from crouching. I often crouch parry in PvP as well tho it’s never to make the hitbox smaller but to catch enemies attacking low or to change the angle of our combat to allow for the longsword blade angle to benefit my parry attempt with the different spacing crouching provides. Nothing wrong with crouch parrying tho you don’t need it in every fight/against every attack
@brooksybaby03
@brooksybaby03 16 күн бұрын
@@oggieson appreciate it, I will continue to learn when and where this method is amicable.
@sneakyJDG13
@sneakyJDG13 Ай бұрын
Whenever I hold block and left click I just start the thrust animation. When I parry an attack my left click doesn't work at all anymore. Is anyone else experiencing this? I've tried making new characters, uninstalling, and changing my pc mouse. It's driving me crazy
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Oh dude. I’m sorry you dealt with all that man lol. Riposte is right click. You parry an attack and right click again. It’s triggered as a defensive action and is tied to the block button
@ThomasVpanda
@ThomasVpanda 29 күн бұрын
which perks are best to use with a longsword fighter?
@oggieson
@oggieson 25 күн бұрын
I’ve been running shield mastery, sword mastery, counter attack, and weapon mastery recently. I will drop counter attack for swift occasionally if I have more than 3 plate pieces on
@oggolbat7932
@oggolbat7932 28 күн бұрын
Is the parry worth it for PvE at all, though? Aside from practicing for PvP, it's just easier to just bait and dodge, right? What do you think?
@oggieson
@oggieson 25 күн бұрын
Yes it speeds up clears immensely. PvE clears are longsword best attribute. Which is kinda sad when you consider how easy pve is really lol. Riposte attacks carry a 1.875 modifier with no sour spot damage on the attacks. The base attack chain is 1.0 1.05 and 1.10 modifiers and have up to a 40% penalty on sour spot damage
@petrkochan9818
@petrkochan9818 18 күн бұрын
Please, how do you parry and hit at the same time like this 3:04 ?
@oggieson
@oggieson 18 күн бұрын
@@petrkochan9818 you right click after a parry rather than left clicking
@petrkochan9818
@petrkochan9818 18 күн бұрын
@@oggieson thanks man, you are the goat
@freshbreeze20
@freshbreeze20 Ай бұрын
Is it possible to parry goblins?
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Yes. I have an older video showing parrying goblins still as well. No attacks have changed on them. I do need to update the parrying for centipede tho
@DillonisEpic
@DillonisEpic Ай бұрын
recommended percs ?
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
In normals I’ve been running shield mastery, sword mastery, counter attack, and weapon mastery. This is what I’d likely run with gear as well, possibly swapping out counter attack with defensive expert or barricade depending on my kit for duos. Trios I haven’t played this wipe but likely leaning toward something like the same build for duos. Possibly dropping both counter attack and sword mastery for defense expert and barricade for more survivability in melee as long as I get action speed above 10% through my kit
@afoekon
@afoekon Ай бұрын
Algorithm help out this video!
@gordon7936
@gordon7936 Ай бұрын
Longsword parrying looks fun, but unreliable as hell. Maybe I'll try it in the future.
@NinjaTylerBlevins
@NinjaTylerBlevins 7 күн бұрын
y no timestamps?
@oggieson
@oggieson 5 күн бұрын
I'm sorry I forgot when I made the video and when you go back and edit the description it tanks the impressions cuz youtube is a punk. I'll try and add them to a pinned comment but will likely not have time. Sorry!
@Chastokol_
@Chastokol_ Ай бұрын
And someome on reddit said the game hitboxes are very consistent and our indignation from longsword bros are just coping about being bad at the game.
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Lol yeah there's a few people I catch on reddit talking nonsense about things I've actively proven on stream/videos. People don't like to be wrong even when there's proof.
@qdLuke
@qdLuke Ай бұрын
you almost 3v1d me and my friends last night and my friend went to look up a parry guide after fighting you, then realized the guide was made by the same guy who killed us
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Lol good fight then boys!
@ArtorasKnight
@ArtorasKnight 29 күн бұрын
Master!?
@thrustfrombehind9869
@thrustfrombehind9869 Ай бұрын
even after all this time the arrows still stay stuck into your sword. Also hitboxes are actually such a joke aswell with Longsword pve blocking even after all this time Inertia needs to be a thing in this game aswell. TBH even after the last time I played in a closed alpha test its still the same.
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
It is surprising to see the hit boxes still a mess after this long
@sebastiancuk7004
@sebastiancuk7004 Ай бұрын
You can parry anything, but it only works 100% of the time, 50% of the time.
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Math checks out
@yoshborg7734
@yoshborg7734 13 күн бұрын
unico fan hispano aqui usando traductor
@oggieson
@oggieson 13 күн бұрын
Appreciate you translator using fan bro!
@yoshborg7734
@yoshborg7734 13 күн бұрын
@@oggieson seguiré esperando más guías 😁
@hudsonwheat6388
@hudsonwheat6388 Ай бұрын
The dude that leaves a negative Steam review still pumping out content. Sad.
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
Yeah it’s not negative bub. Y’all havin a hard time with that still
@hudsonwheat6388
@hudsonwheat6388 Ай бұрын
@@oggieson Unless you went in and changed it to positive, the one I read was negative. I just find it weird to leave a negative review on a game you've played for 100's or 1000's of hours and still are pumping out content for. Just my opinion, you can have yours.
@oggieson
@oggieson Ай бұрын
@@hudsonwheat6388 I did change it to positive since some people spamming me made good points about the F2P part of the game being focused on the normals gameplay loop which I enjoy still. I think it’s absolutely ok for people to put negative reviews about games they put hours into. I don’t want ironmace having a buncha yes men telling them the game is great and has no issues when the balance in the game is trash and their ability to balance the game has been trash the entire time. I have ironmace their compliments in the review too about being great at making content and being the best dev team to communicate with the community out there. I still make content since I want to support ironmace as a dev team cuz I think they’re dope for what they gave us in the game but being critical of their balance since it ruins a lot of the fun is where I’m at now with my hours in the game. My KZfaq and twitch make me zero and take up a lotta time, I’m just giving back to the community at this point is the only reason I continue the content Thanks for the comment tho man. Not trying to spam ya with an essay so my bad on the text wall
@Jack_the_Rizzler69
@Jack_the_Rizzler69 29 күн бұрын
Devs are so incompetent in pretty much all areas of the game. They should pray no half decent competitor comes along.
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