Dark Events Uncovered: The Maureen Cosgrove Murder Mystery | Nightmare In Suburbia | Real Crime

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11 ай бұрын

Jobless George Maben in his early 40s and living with his 83yr old mum, lucked out when he bumped into a younger woman named Sally outside a Surrey hospital. Love bloomed, and George found himself settling into Sally's mum's large suburban home with all the creature comforts and space he wanted. Sally soon got pregnant. But her mum Maureen got tired of George's laziness asked him to leave. Back living with his 83yr old mum, and determined to get his comfy life with Sally back, George then set a plan in motion which would involve murder, betrayal and unusually for the police, a meticulous investigation that would only succeed by involving divine intervention.
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@enigmadrath1780
@enigmadrath1780 11 ай бұрын
They lost their dad to suicide and their mum to murder. God, it's heartbreaking :(
@CityThatCannotBeCaptured
@CityThatCannotBeCaptured 11 ай бұрын
Good on the cops. Great job and especially for getting the sentence increased.
@wuffothewonderdog
@wuffothewonderdog 9 ай бұрын
That was in the days before the police became woke and learnt to take the knee at every opportunity, paint their cars with rainbows & LGBTQ+/-* badges, recruiting only those with psychopathic tendencies. They don’t investigate crimes now, unless they are thought crimes.
@welshieallovertheplace
@welshieallovertheplace 11 ай бұрын
I knew the Cosgroves when I was a teenager from volunteering at a kid's charity with John. They were such lovely, wonderful people so I was completely shocked and heartbroken when, a few years back, I was looking to reconnect with John and this story was what I found. My heart goes out to these wonderful people; I cant think if anyone I've ever known who deserved this, but least if all John, Carolyn, Matthew, 'Sally' and Maureen. Rest In Peace Mr & Mrs Cosgrove.
@nobesuthuntshongwana879
@nobesuthuntshongwana879 11 ай бұрын
Qqq
@mknels1299
@mknels1299 11 ай бұрын
Sin
@nuviaerivez5876
@nuviaerivez5876 11 ай бұрын
Sin
@jeynjohnston8085
@jeynjohnston8085 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for providing a deeper insight into the family. So sorry it happened to you and them.
@Froggie757froggiefroggiefroggi
@Froggie757froggiefroggiefroggi 11 ай бұрын
Why is the other daughter being called Sally,when it's not her name?
@RhiannonRaven
@RhiannonRaven 7 ай бұрын
If it had been the judge's Mum who had been murdered, I think we can confidently assume a very different sentence. Outrageous.
@juliadesl
@juliadesl 11 ай бұрын
The judges logic for a lesser sentence is ridiculous. It was cold blooded murder, not his first theft.
@brianrodney712
@brianrodney712 11 ай бұрын
That judge should be sacked as they are just not up to the job.
@nuviaerivez5876
@nuviaerivez5876 11 ай бұрын
If he was a black man, I guarantee the sentence would have been very different.
@dianet2702
@dianet2702 11 ай бұрын
​@@nuviaerivez5876Yes ,he would have been congratulated for being himself and being a good boy.
@lanasachie8505
@lanasachie8505 10 ай бұрын
the judge needs to stop skipping his medication.
@baronmeduse
@baronmeduse 6 ай бұрын
@@dianet2702 Doubtful, but I suppose highly-conservative conspiracy theorists have to tell themselves all kind of tales to make sense of the world.
@IvorGrumble
@IvorGrumble 10 ай бұрын
Unemployed, in his 40's, living with his mother. She must have been extremely vulnerable to overlook those immediate red flags.
@frontenac5083
@frontenac5083 6 ай бұрын
🤡🤡🤡
@elizabethcotton4659
@elizabethcotton4659 11 ай бұрын
Massive respect for the detective work in this case.
@Suzyfromtheblock
@Suzyfromtheblock 9 ай бұрын
Yes superb
@JustAThought155
@JustAThought155 11 ай бұрын
I’m thinking, 🤔, a 40 yr old unemployed man, with kids, on state welfare, has come to me asking for a cigarette, I would INSTANTLY dismiss any notion of considering that man as a potential lifelong partner. 🤦‍♀️
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
Most normal self respecting women would do the same....
@franklinsfriend2035
@franklinsfriend2035 11 ай бұрын
Got that right. How many red flags do you need?
@1fan689
@1fan689 11 ай бұрын
To be fair she was mourning her dad's suicide at the time
@firenze5555
@firenze5555 11 ай бұрын
A psychopath knows how to target a vulnerable person and charm them. Sad. This woman/daughter is responsible for bringing that toxic man into her family and her mother's house and ultimately the crime. Terrible.
@JustAThought155
@JustAThought155 11 ай бұрын
@@1fan689, “To be fair” to whom? Mourning a father who gave into the voice of suicide is sad. However, which aspect of a man who fails to work even to provide for his children would convince you that he will make a great life partner? I hope to GOD her father left a better legacy that would let his daughter know her value! I plead with GOD that her father’s example was far removed from the version of a “man” that lazy murderer displayed to that lady. And what was the end result to such fairness, or enabling: that poor lady is without BOTH PARENTS! So, again, what aspect of her grief for her father is interpreted as being “fair” to that begging lazy murderer? Sorry for my blatant language, but the sympathy card simply does not work during this day and age of manipulative behavior that is spotted any and every time you view one of the hundreds of newscast, KZfaq forensic documentaries, and the new form of entertainment that shows COUNTLESS VICTIMS being swayed by manipulators.😢
@maureenstevens6824
@maureenstevens6824 11 ай бұрын
13 years for premeditated murder is so absurd and nothing more than a slap in the face to the brothers and sisters... who had just lost their father a couple of years previously... for a lazy, worthless, self serving and malicious criminal.
@amyrudolph3932
@amyrudolph3932 11 ай бұрын
Well... I guess NO point in watching now..... since u had to RUIN it 🙄
@PumaLyn
@PumaLyn 11 ай бұрын
They appealed. 18 years.
@PumaLyn
@PumaLyn 11 ай бұрын
@@amyrudolph3932 You chose to read the comments section before watching it. You ruined it for yourself.
@hekv6533
@hekv6533 11 ай бұрын
Don’t read the comments before You’re seen the video, as simple as that 😂
@somita9849
@somita9849 11 ай бұрын
They said he was desperate and wanted to be with the woman he loved. He didn't kill the old lady to be with her daughter, he just killed her to stay in their house rent-free. To stay a parasite for the rest of hist life.
@gabegood8989
@gabegood8989 11 ай бұрын
the Judge in this case was disgusting with his comments about this "kind" murderer
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree! The family should’ve done something about him, he needed to be ousted somehow, useless as a judge!
@Dhruv_Dogra
@Dhruv_Dogra 11 ай бұрын
Yes. The judge was able to relate to the scoundrel but not to the dead lady !
@dianet2702
@dianet2702 11 ай бұрын
Must have been old and decrepit with his brains turned into mashed potatoes. Some never retire .They prefer to die on their throne.
@AddyHarris-cz5bv
@AddyHarris-cz5bv 10 ай бұрын
I really apreciate how much i agree to your comment.keep it up😅
@ledesmameyer8438
@ledesmameyer8438 5 ай бұрын
Can you impeach him?
@ca819
@ca819 10 ай бұрын
I could never forgive my sister for bringing the murderer of my mother into the family.
@annehorrigan570
@annehorrigan570 11 ай бұрын
What an awful person. I'm so sorry for the family's loss.
@GaryDoyle-fd3cf
@GaryDoyle-fd3cf 11 ай бұрын
His problem was he had absolutely no respect for peoples hospitality and abused their kindness plus he was totally lazy and contributed to NOTHING?
@kellymurphy6642
@kellymurphy6642 11 ай бұрын
🎉
@wangchung_8541
@wangchung_8541 11 ай бұрын
Just a classic scumbag moocher. Dole bludgers are rife in the UK, give them a hand and they take an arm .
@Faristol7
@Faristol7 11 ай бұрын
He had no respect for a kind, middle-aged lady's hospitality ..Maureen obviously wasn't the sort to even say 'boo' to a goose, and this sucking scumbag homed in on that straightaway. If she had had her husband by her side, all this would never have happened BC Dosser would never have been allowed to come live in the house. George dominated Maureen and thought he had her exactly where he wanted her....murder was the outcome of his impatience to get his hands on everything she possessed.
@flej01
@flej01 11 ай бұрын
Its a complete slap in the face to the families these flimsy sentences. They should get life. R.I.P Maureen, my heart goes out to your family. I hope Gorge never walks out alive.
@cathybassett6432
@cathybassett6432 11 ай бұрын
Oh please. George could have gotten a job and taken his shoes off at the door per many requests. That would have changed everything. George didn't want to do that. Murder was easier. He got off far to easy.
@theresarasche3173
@theresarasche3173 11 ай бұрын
AND who put their feet with shoes on up on a couch? I mean who does that?
@adricas1704
@adricas1704 11 ай бұрын
A psychopath… that’s who 😬
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
Don’t forget that the daughter who was also just as much a waste of space as the piece of scum she slept with is to blame for bringing him into the family. Of all men she could’ve gotten involved with she chose him? A jobless dirtbag living at home with his mommy & living off welfare?! WOW! What a great catch!
@Faristol7
@Faristol7 11 ай бұрын
​@@sdmsdm7926l agree, but, knowing the father of this girl committed suicide, l would wonder if the daughter was suffering from acute depression or some sort of mental condition that prevented her from functioning normally & caused her to become dependent on weak characters whose saving grace was that they knew how to be affectionate towards her??? Just saying 🤷
@sylviabriggs4087
@sylviabriggs4087 11 ай бұрын
@@theresarasche3173lol my son
@villasoka884
@villasoka884 11 ай бұрын
The Cosgrove daughter was targeted by a narcissist. He got her pregnant with an eye on an easy life. His mother would’ve also been murdered to give him the life he thought he deserved. The only thing that saved his mother was, he didn’t get away with the first murder! Is as cold and calculating as that! Even the judge fell for it, that’s how practiced narcissists can be.
@Faristol7
@Faristol7 11 ай бұрын
I feel very sorry for Maureen who list her life partly because she lost her husband. If there had been a man in her house, there's no way this utter bum & wastrel would have wormed his way in. Men have a way of feeling extremely uncomfortable with other men who are bums, and will kick them out in the blink of an eye. These same bums tend to dominate and disrespect women and will linger around,refusing to take 'no' for an answer. As a mother who has been through TWO ordeals involving worthless bums who managed to get involved with one of my daughters, l'm just very glad & grateful that l had my husband by my side to help me with the task of getting rid of them. The Cosgrove case is very close to my heart......this is what can happen when you let these kind of dossers into your home & life. They stay. Then it's you or them.Thirteen years is not enough - this guy should have been given 'life'.
@Dhruv_Dogra
@Dhruv_Dogra 11 ай бұрын
Well said 👏 👌 👍
@sharonsmalls6846
@sharonsmalls6846 10 ай бұрын
George would have never moved into my home. If Sally needed him she wouldn't have moved back either. I am surprised her brothers didn't object to this lowlife being in their mother's home. I don't understand these people. I truly have difficulty understanding people living lives of drama.
@Dhruv_Dogra
@Dhruv_Dogra 10 ай бұрын
@@sharonsmalls6846 The brothers definitely failed as men to help their mom and sister
@sharonsmalls6846
@sharonsmalls6846 10 ай бұрын
@@Dhruv_Dogra The sister annoys me, but I feel the Mom should have never let that lowlife in her home. Why in the world did they take him on vacation? This family baffles me. Who allows a 40-year-old slacker into your life and begins caring for him? Because you're dating my daughter, I'm not feeding you and you're living with ME? 🤦🏿‍♀️
@janesmith9024
@janesmith9024 10 ай бұрын
Yes, you have to be quite direct and clear. I said to my son who has a lovely hard working girl friend she can come a night or two a week but not move in here in the week. It is just where I draw my own line.I may be female but am pretty good at saying no.
@firenze5555
@firenze5555 11 ай бұрын
When an adult child hooks up with a toxic personality it affects so many people than just themselves. That poor mother - the stress of some bum living in her space and refusing to find work and move out, getting her daughter pregnant when he couldn't even take care of himself. The fact that he was in his 40's and living with his mother was a huge red flag when he first met the daughter. She should have never let him move into her mother's home. He was pissed he was tossed out of the house and felt entitled to live in their home off of their hard work. The daughter is responsible for bringing this toxic person into the family. What a mess, the poor mother.
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
Yes, but who allowed him to move in that house in the first place? My folks would’ve said you’re pregnant by some jobless dirtbag who already has a bunch of kids?! Go move in with HIS mother!
@Faristol7
@Faristol7 11 ай бұрын
​@@sdmsdm7926 Hear hear! Our elder daughter got involved with a similar worthless dirtbag, much older than her, with a bunch of kids, 'ex's', AND a new, younger partner at the time with whom he had a toddler. Very charming, very smarmy, ALSO Scottish, l might add, he managed to charm the socks off our daughter who had just split up with her then current boyfriend. The guy was a busker who had played and sung in our place (we own a bar/restaurant with rooms), years previously and had been very popular, He & his then partner (and their kids) had stayed with us off & on, and our young daughter must have been impressed by him. We lost contact with this individual for decades until my husband 'rediscovered' him on FB & more or less invited him along to sing in the bar again that summer. He came with new partner & toddler in tow, and, to our HORROR, immediately seduced our daughter who was living with us again after splitting up with her boyfriend. Of course, we knew what he was angling at - he was quite prepared to stay with us, appendages and all, while he sealed his relationship with our daughter, feeling quite at home & in no hurry to move out. My husband & l couldn't believe it, and spent the next year & a half doing everything in our power to get him out of our daughter's life. He hung in like a limpet, would not go away, and we were very afraid that he would get our daughter pregnant and ensure himself a free pass to our property (rather valuable at the time.) To cut a long story short, we finally phoned his ex and told her the whole story. She was obviously afraid of him & didn't want to get involved, but DID tell us that this was his usual MO to get himself 'into' places, and the best thing our daughter could do was to 'run like hell'!. Eventually, our daughter 'saw the light' after some dubious past actions of his became apparent, and we were able to 'rescue' her, but only after threatening to disinherit her and her storming off to live in another country for a few months. The guy still didn't desist until it was obvious she wasn't going to answer any more of his calls, and he ex partner had told him that we were involved and were 'onto him'. Fortunately, everything blew over and our daughter is now happily married to a very nice, hard-working man. Phew!! I feel for the Cosgrove family, and am sure that if Maureen could have had the support of her husband, none of this would ever have happened.
@emmykinsy5822
@emmykinsy5822 11 ай бұрын
Maureen was obviously a kind and loving mum and did what she thought was best at the time.
@Faristol7
@Faristol7 11 ай бұрын
@@emmykinsy5822 Yes, and got herself killed. Sometimes you have to do better than your best.
@lizabethgussman331
@lizabethgussman331 11 ай бұрын
He WOULDN’T take care of himself.
@yanifree114
@yanifree114 11 ай бұрын
The detective: ‘George immediately stood out from the other members of the family, he came across as softly spoken, quite charming and very eager to help.’ If I were a loud mouth, belligerent unhelpful member of that family, I would be terribly offended! 😆
@viylangager4020
@viylangager4020 11 ай бұрын
Looks are deceiving.
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
LOL!
@Faristol7
@Faristol7 11 ай бұрын
I noticed that too....The narrator makes it seem as though the rest of the family WEREN'T charming or softly spoken Strange way of putting things.
@cleof1503
@cleof1503 11 ай бұрын
i blinked at that too , but then again these are so heavily edited that im pretty sure that comment was taken out of its context.
@adanedwardspencer6891
@adanedwardspencer6891 11 ай бұрын
No one ever deserves this, & I hope that these people who murder others, get what they deserve, & which is to be put in prison indefinitely, & NEVER released, and they must be held accountable for their actions, there is NO EXCUSE for this, EVER.
@RideoutMr
@RideoutMr 11 ай бұрын
What a good for nothing daughter...a pariah, her & George both...Maureen should never have let her daughter come & live with her but make her stand on her own two feet, get a job & pay her own way, & him to, instead of mooching of her mother.
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@alsmith9853
@alsmith9853 8 ай бұрын
Daughter was a mo ro nic thot. Edit: I wrote that comment when I was angry and I feel like it was a bit harsh because she'd lost her dad and gotten divorced. But women must learn to recognise red flags and this oxygen thief she hooked up with was full of them. Better to be single and have her mother's love than to hook up with a toxic malicious killer, a real wastrel.
@RideoutMr
@RideoutMr 8 ай бұрын
@@alsmith9853 Understatement.....poor woman. No good deed goes unpunished is sooo true.
@chriscafferkey7736
@chriscafferkey7736 7 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what suicide does to a family? This poor girl was still trying to come to terms with her fathers tragic death. This made her extremely vulnerable. Con men like George would find her easy prey, easy to con. Sally was there for her mum. They were supporting each other when in steps George. Sally could not have known what a monster he was. She deserves as much support as the rest of the family, not vilifying!
@RideoutMr
@RideoutMr 7 ай бұрын
@@chriscafferkey7736 Give it a rest. stop making excuses for this good for nothing daughter.
@Baskerville22
@Baskerville22 11 ай бұрын
Some blame to the daughter for bringing that monster into Maureen's orbit.
@ANTIONETTEFERNANDES-cg5lw
@ANTIONETTEFERNANDES-cg5lw 6 ай бұрын
The daughter should live with the Husband and not in Her Mother's house if she wanted to live in Her Mother's house than She should live alone in Her Mother's house She brought this Useless Man.in.Her House and destroyed the whole Family The Daughter is to be blamed
@nuviaerivez5876
@nuviaerivez5876 11 ай бұрын
08:07 Sally's new boyfriend George "Jordy" SHOULD be eager to help his 82 year old mother who he lives with and his children which I'm sure he's not helping care of instead of a family he just met. I'm already seeing RED FLAGS EVERYWHERE with this man.
@lidaevans5432
@lidaevans5432 10 ай бұрын
Shame on the daughter for even expecting her mom to keep her and her boyfriend up!! 😔
@AmarNahid
@AmarNahid 4 ай бұрын
Maybe she stayed with her mum because she didnt want to let her be alone .
@karmayt8956
@karmayt8956 11 ай бұрын
Those judges were wack! Oh poor George was under stress because he was in love. Gives love a dirty taste in your mouth.
@mightymouse1005
@mightymouse1005 Ай бұрын
George doesn't know what love is
@ledbesa1
@ledbesa1 11 ай бұрын
The brother is so sweet. This poor family.
@christinamenhennett
@christinamenhennett 11 ай бұрын
Yes Sally got taken up with the wrong guy and now she has to raise her baby on her ( better off if you ask me) and that's sad for the child. She didn't have anything to do with her mother's death. Tons of us have fallen for the wrong guy and he took advantage of it by being a worthless and lazy scumbag murderer.
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
He was a jobless dirtbag living with his mommy & on welfare when she met him, yet, she chose to have sex with the LOSER knowing damn well she wasn’t even on birth control. She was just as much a waste of space as he was, she was clearly spoiled by two parents who had done well for themselves. She was still living at home at her age? Come on now! Get a job & move out & on with your life instead of taking advantage of Mom.
@Faristol7
@Faristol7 11 ай бұрын
Women should be taught to have their wits about them when choosing a boyfriend. So much tragedy comes about because of bad choices.
@lanasachie8505
@lanasachie8505 10 ай бұрын
people buy the wrong pet every day; but when you find out it's a rattler not a garden snake; you don't take it home and throw on your widowed, defenseless, elderly, mother.
@laffytaffy2916
@laffytaffy2916 11 ай бұрын
Sally, please girl, you’re pregnant, STOP SMOKING!!!
@mightymouse1005
@mightymouse1005 Ай бұрын
Seriously, of everything on here, her smoking is your concern?
@grneys45
@grneys45 11 ай бұрын
I think some of u didn't watch to the end because they were able to get his sentence increased to 18 years
@PumaLyn
@PumaLyn 11 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@Dhruv_Dogra
@Dhruv_Dogra 11 ай бұрын
It was a relief to watch that part
@ladygumshoe7402
@ladygumshoe7402 11 ай бұрын
The daughter is just as much to blame! 😢😢
@miriam2909
@miriam2909 11 ай бұрын
Excellent policing!
@elizabethannegrey6285
@elizabethannegrey6285 11 ай бұрын
A clear case of decent honourable and hard working people casting their pearls before swine. This useless apology for a man, a lazy self indulgent sponger, should never have crossed the threshold. I hope the daughter can live with the consequences of her terrible choice.
@lanasachie8505
@lanasachie8505 10 ай бұрын
she was too desperate that she ignored all the red flags. She saw them all. No Job, 40 yrs old and living with his mother, lazy, willing to sponge off your elderly mother, messy, entitled, jealous and possessive, rude.
@user-il1nj7gu1c
@user-il1nj7gu1c 8 ай бұрын
Of course, she won’t, should be shacked up with the next conman before you know it
@lanasachie8505
@lanasachie8505 8 ай бұрын
@@user-il1nj7gu1c Exactly! That’s just what she will do!
@greenpedal370
@greenpedal370 8 ай бұрын
@@user-il1nj7gu1c I agree. She will do it again.
@louisacoote2337
@louisacoote2337 8 ай бұрын
The daughter was perhaps not in the best place emotionally, with a failed marriage and losing her dad. Being vulnerable, she was probably an easy target for George. Maureen was probably a bit vulnerable too, living alone, having lost her husband. She was probably glad that her daughter had found someone else after her break-up. And Maureen did lay down the law when George didn’t make an effort to find a job, not taking him on holiday after he’d behaved badly on the first one…
@nickybrooks6942
@nickybrooks6942 11 ай бұрын
Why was he on disabilty payments ? These are an absolute nightmare to qualify for even with medical paperwork and backing .
@victrola2007
@victrola2007 11 ай бұрын
IKR, but it's UK and they seem MUCH more lax from what I've seen and been told by my British friends. It's absurd. I have devastating RA, but I even had to go in in-person to meet with a Soc Security officer and endured a drawn out process. 😕🇺🇸
@judytieger8976
@judytieger8976 11 ай бұрын
I don't know if you are referring to disability payments in the UK or the US. I live in the US and it is extremely difficult to qualify for disability payments here. I personally know two people who needed disability, but had to apply time and time again for it even though they qualified for it. If they had not had people to help them they would have been homeless. After a long and arduous applying time and time again they finally got their due. Then you see people like this and what in the world!
@G-Star-Raw
@G-Star-Raw 11 ай бұрын
​@@victrola2007I don't think so, I have Lung Disease, Sarcoid oasis and asthma i don't get anything!!
@annehorrigan570
@annehorrigan570 11 ай бұрын
@@G-Star-Raw Did you get declined from ssdi?
@molliemae6855
@molliemae6855 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been told it’s far easier (in the US) to get disability if you have a mental illness rather than a physical disability. Think depression or anxiety.
@butterflygirl3359
@butterflygirl3359 11 ай бұрын
Never, never, NEVER, partner with an adult non-worker!!!!!!!!!!
@firenze5555
@firenze5555 11 ай бұрын
But he was on disability, poor thing.
@mqoh_misfitt5126
@mqoh_misfitt5126 11 ай бұрын
What an evil son in law, George is so evil, I hope he is enjoying every day in prison!
@victrola2007
@victrola2007 11 ай бұрын
I don't even think that they were married. What a parasite.
@leenaholmes2271
@leenaholmes2271 11 ай бұрын
The "honourable" judge made sure that he won't be inside for long. These so called "justice providers" themselves do injustice too, so many a times. Infuriating. And i won't be surprised if that wife of his takes him back too after his release.
@RiaLake
@RiaLake 11 ай бұрын
They weren't married.
@PumaLyn
@PumaLyn 11 ай бұрын
He wasn't her son-in-law. He was just living off of her because her daughter was looking for a father figure.
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
He is the perfect definition of a LOSER!
@carmelellis817
@carmelellis817 11 ай бұрын
It is the no hope of a daughter's fault bringing in a loser with no job, no prospects and wanting to sponge off the family.
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
Two losers together....
@JulieRushworth
@JulieRushworth 6 ай бұрын
Losing your father to suicide is no picnic, she was very vulnerable and these narcissists hone in on these people
@baronmeduse
@baronmeduse 6 ай бұрын
@@JulieRushworth Don't expect the person to understand. They only believe in 'evil' and apportioning blame. No sophisticated views of human relations.
@franceslynch8815
@franceslynch8815 8 ай бұрын
My heart goes out to the whole family. The traumatic loss of their dad. The daughter, Sally's innocence and the mother's acceptance of Sally's boyfriend living in the family home and also the lovely son, talking us through their distressing experiences. The mother could see through George but I think maybe the whole family should have sat down and discussed having a meeting with George. The mum was old and vulnerable and tired of her daughter's 'hanger-on'. Some victims say that murder happens to other people and wasn't meant to happen to them. Looking at this sad documentary I think that murder can happen to anyone and everyone.
@aaloh6154
@aaloh6154 11 ай бұрын
That sentence was demeaning!! He should be in prison for life!!😞
@AnnabelleJARankin
@AnnabelleJARankin 11 ай бұрын
The original sentence was ridiculous, and the judge's comments idiotic - glad it was increased.
@Alapahauk
@Alapahauk 11 ай бұрын
Lord Chief Justice said: “We have concluded there was a disproportionate reduction in the sentence available in this case. “We shall order that the minimum term be increased to 18 years.”
@moonshadow3946
@moonshadow3946 11 ай бұрын
@Alapahauk Thank you for posting this additional information. I really appreciate it.👍
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
Crazy ass judge hope same crap happens to him so he can realize how a miserable 18 years is nothing for taking one’s life...
@HelenaMikas
@HelenaMikas 11 ай бұрын
Even 18 was not long enough .Life minus parole .....
@brandisnyder9765
@brandisnyder9765 11 ай бұрын
Crooked judge! That dude needs WAY more time in prison!
@RiaLake
@RiaLake 11 ай бұрын
Thankfully he received more time and the original judge should have been retired for incompetency!
@thatcatboab
@thatcatboab 11 ай бұрын
Very sad. People like him prey on good nature.💔💔
@lilraider22
@lilraider22 11 ай бұрын
13 years, seriously? He was t sorry he did it, he was sorry he got caught. It wasn't about being with the woman he loved. It was about controlling her. He is an insecure bum. I've never understood why women get pregnant by men who already have children they are not talking care of. It's not like he was just sending money because he didn't work. To have their father and mother pass the way they did is so sad
@PumaLyn
@PumaLyn 11 ай бұрын
44:28 Watch and listen. An appeal to the High Court increased the sentence to 18 years.
@lilraider22
@lilraider22 11 ай бұрын
@PumaLyn I wrote the comment before the end, but even 18 years isn't enough. He should be in jail for life.
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
She was an irresponsible waste of space, she was no teenager, she should’ve been on birth control if she was so busy out there having sex! The mother is to blame as well because she should’ve told the both of them good luck go find your own place to live especially since she never cared for that bum her daughter was sleeping with. Sometimes we create our own hell.
@cleof1503
@cleof1503 11 ай бұрын
its a MINIMUM of 13 years till eligable for parole, if his parole is denied his sentance will continue; but i agree a minimum of 13 years is shamfully low.
@trevortrevatrevortreva1520
@trevortrevatrevortreva1520 8 ай бұрын
Devastating series of horrific events. Hope all of their beautiful children are rebuilding their lives together and staying close to each other. May both their father and mother be reunited within eternal heavenly peace 🙏
@nuviaerivez5876
@nuviaerivez5876 11 ай бұрын
11:27 🤯😵 Sally got Pregnant!!! Seriously, what was she thinking???
@TheRight-handedStranger
@TheRight-handedStranger 11 ай бұрын
The UK justice system always makes me angry. They spend a lot of time and money to find the murderer and then they feel sorry for him/her. They care more for the criminals than for the victims and their families. I would have not only thrown him earlier, I won’t even have him live in my home. Her daughter shouldn’t have done this to her mother , shouldn’t have brought a lazy moocher to her mom’s home.
@MrPaultopp
@MrPaultopp 11 ай бұрын
You need to look around the world ….this happens everywhere, rubbish sentences…..and the other way around
@jar7840
@jar7840 11 ай бұрын
Australias system is trash too!
@TheRight-handedStranger
@TheRight-handedStranger 11 ай бұрын
@@MrPaultopp - Yes it’s very sad. Canada, Australia and many European countries too. Unfortunately now the leftists in the US are little by little changing the justice system in the US and copying those countries. If you wish to commit a crime in the US especially as bad as murder you should do that in state that the left has control of everything, the Governor, the Senators, and the judicial system.
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
Canadians & Australians r even worse!
@sandycromhout9850
@sandycromhout9850 10 ай бұрын
Canada is far worse ..... especially with murders of indigenous women.
@maryelizabeth6286
@maryelizabeth6286 9 ай бұрын
Shocking the number of people blaming the daughter in the comments. The only person responsible for this murder is the murderer, end of. It’s completely heartless to blame her after everything she and her family have been through.
@JulieRushworth
@JulieRushworth 6 ай бұрын
I second every word.
@jackcutler9096
@jackcutler9096 8 ай бұрын
Why people get involved with such unsavoury folk is beyond me
@carmenbalcomb4106
@carmenbalcomb4106 11 ай бұрын
What an absolute poor excuse for a man,a wastrel,didn't support himself,his kids or his partner,but what a stretch to kill someone,his partner's Mum.😢
@BEAUTYnIQ
@BEAUTYnIQ 11 ай бұрын
over £4O no less .. thats like $5O US.. what a POS..
@mightymouse1005
@mightymouse1005 Ай бұрын
Making more babies he won't support
@AAXS-op1vo
@AAXS-op1vo 11 ай бұрын
Hell no! Why would you have a man in your space who won’t work, taking up all the resource, living with his mom and off benefits?? He is a cad and a USER. Why would you bring that into your mom’s house and leave her to manage all that after all she has lost? He did NOT LOVE HER. SHE WAS A CONVENIENT MEAL TICKET THAT he was USING. HELL NOOOOOOO! And no offense but Sally seems like SHE was misusing mom as well. IJS
@squirrelmanning7889
@squirrelmanning7889 7 ай бұрын
And he was annoyed at having to leave Ireland, even though he partly caused Sally to lose her job by constantly hanging around the office!
@irishsakura1
@irishsakura1 11 ай бұрын
George is the laziest person I ever heard of. What’s the purpose of his existence?
@si4632
@si4632 11 ай бұрын
she kept nagging lol
@irishsakura1
@irishsakura1 11 ай бұрын
@@si4632 can you blame her?!
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
The human leach
@maryannanderson2213
@maryannanderson2213 11 ай бұрын
I am constantly amazed at how stupid some criminals appear. They seem totally unaware that in today's world everyone and his cat has a cell phone with a camera AND there are CCTV cameras EVERYWHERE. How on earth do they think they can make any move at all without it being captured dozens of times on cameras scattered all over the place. And yet, they stupidly carry on with their nefarious actions apparently blithely unaware that their every move is being recorded. They couldn't be any more obvious if they asked a policeman to hold their beer while they commit the crime.
@MrHusang23
@MrHusang23 11 ай бұрын
And also all of them carry their phones with them every time, and the phone tower data places them on the crime scene. Every damned time.
@graykobain6001
@graykobain6001 11 ай бұрын
Lol yep and they often Google how to kill/how to hide a body etc on their personal devices.. Crazy stupid stuff
@PaganPunk
@PaganPunk 11 ай бұрын
Please don't tell my cats that other cats have mobiles!! ......
@Hecci1006
@Hecci1006 11 ай бұрын
im pretty sure they're well aware and just dont give a fuck. They dont value human life including their own.
@chloeuntrau4588
@chloeuntrau4588 11 ай бұрын
For once stupidity is a blessing!
@annalievosloo2006
@annalievosloo2006 11 ай бұрын
Image the initial incredulity on the face of the guy who picked up the discarded coat when the police appeared on his doorstep 😂😂😂
@jeynjohnston8085
@jeynjohnston8085 11 ай бұрын
I hope George's dog found a good home.
@user-qn3fk6ig8j
@user-qn3fk6ig8j 11 ай бұрын
The daughter should also be held responsible this man was a loser and she continued to stay with him😊
@BeaIEngio
@BeaIEngio 11 ай бұрын
She was vulnerable, with poor self-worth and being manipulated by a dangerous person. Happens the world over and she cannot have imagined it would result in her mother's death. I think she's suffered quite enough.
@sundeepkaur4269
@sundeepkaur4269 11 ай бұрын
​@@BeaIEngiono excuse
@dsingh448
@dsingh448 11 ай бұрын
@@BeaIEngio It was a codependent relationship and her mother paid the ultimate price for her bad choices
@BeaIEngio
@BeaIEngio 11 ай бұрын
@@dsingh448 I know.
@muddydog6605
@muddydog6605 11 ай бұрын
You sound quite pleased and smug about that? What about his mummy too, maybe it's her fault? or his ex girlfriends faults. God forbid it's just the manipulative, controlling narcissists fault.
@homesweetspice
@homesweetspice 11 ай бұрын
She was a dinner lady when I went to that high school in Carshalton!
@thegreencat9947
@thegreencat9947 11 ай бұрын
In the U.S.A....we call them " lunch ladys".👍😁
@homesweetspice
@homesweetspice 10 ай бұрын
@@traceyhall-green6191 yes St Phil’s
@michaeljoseph3528
@michaeljoseph3528 11 ай бұрын
Thanks to Detectives. The Judge understood. 🙏
@Kill--alllll---IDF
@Kill--alllll---IDF 11 ай бұрын
Sat on sofa with his shoes on the sofa left hand in his pants fidgeting with his acorn n right hand holding the tv remote 😂 pure waste
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
If that was my mother he’d be chased out of the house with a heav duty frying pan!
@alsmith9853
@alsmith9853 10 ай бұрын
Good Lord I wear my shoes in the house! But I never killed anyone. Poor Maureen, what a silly daughter getting involved with such an obvious loser.
@squirrelmanning7889
@squirrelmanning7889 7 ай бұрын
But it's YOUR house, not somebody else's!
@Glamrockqueen
@Glamrockqueen 11 ай бұрын
Quick Google, and 'Sally' becomes Lucy. Why change the name when it can be found very easily on the internet?
@mimig6511
@mimig6511 11 ай бұрын
I thought that too...one search gives her name
@Glamrockqueen
@Glamrockqueen 10 ай бұрын
@traceyhall-green6191 Bit bloody daft when you can just go on Google.
@TheDriftwoodlover
@TheDriftwoodlover 11 ай бұрын
Good God … that initial sentence was a joke. So someone “under stess” who wouldn’t hold a job to support his coming child is given special treatment? Some judges defy understanding.
@lily_m3538
@lily_m3538 10 ай бұрын
Shocking story. The warning signs were there - unemployed living with an elderly mother...... and no occupation or money..... Very sad for the Cosgroves.
@frontenac5083
@frontenac5083 6 ай бұрын
🤪🤪🤪🤪
@BEAUTYnIQ
@BEAUTYnIQ 11 ай бұрын
this is why you dont take homeless bums into your house.. theres issues there that they havent resolved in years, even decades.. and youre not going to fix it.. murdered.. over $5O .. rip dear woman..
@caroleminke6116
@caroleminke6116 11 ай бұрын
Misogyny & narcissism just go hand & glove together with revenge. It’s ALWAYS about the $ stupid 🤦‍♀️
@always_b_natural703
@always_b_natural703 11 ай бұрын
Luckily, my parents drilled into us children to get an education while they were paying, and get a good job that we'd be able to support ourselves with. They were children of the Depression, and had had to quit school at 14 yrs old and had struggled in ways they saw others with adequate education didn't have to. In my early 20s, I briefly dated a guy on benefits. It didn't take my long to figure out if I was going to do it all on my own, I certainly didn't need a leech who wasn't contributing in any way.
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
You got THAT right! Who needs those types of headaches in life?
@renakoutsoumba4739
@renakoutsoumba4739 11 ай бұрын
Some people involved in these crimes are just unlucky victims but I notice that these poor souls are very few instances. Most of them were looking for trouble (unconsciously of course) by showing an unbeleievable amount of frivolity, or naivety or by not wanting to put their children or relatives out. Hospitality and good will towards your children and relatives is completely different from pampering or accepting a stranger into your household just to fill your empty space or your heart.
@janesmith9024
@janesmith9024 10 ай бұрын
I agree. My father's parents had lots of down on their luck family members needing help and I think that is why my parents were better at putting up barriers to that kind of thing and why I am relatively strong about it too.
@charmaineswaddle2286
@charmaineswaddle2286 11 ай бұрын
I still say criminals are stupid…everything can be tracked these days…you delete anything it can be retrieved yet it doesn’t deter them…the justice system needs to change..the sentences are ridiculous…how can such a lenient sentence be enough for ending someone’s life and destroying the family…it’s a lifetime sentence for them why not the criminal!! RIP Maureen ❤
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
They need to build more prisons in England & adopt life without parole laws...
@herstory1012
@herstory1012 11 ай бұрын
Ridiculous jail sentence 😢😢😢
@janececelia7448
@janececelia7448 11 ай бұрын
I can't believe that judge... No, wait a minute I can; they're all damn useless when it comes to sentencing monsters like him. I also found it weird as shown in the reenactment (which may not be accurate) that 'Sally' was less concerned about her mother being murdered than her boyfriend being charged with it. If the police took my car away for forensic testing after a murder, I'd consider that they'd also have bugged it. That's why the creep's apology sounded so fake, though it just could have been bad acting.
@Dhruv_Dogra
@Dhruv_Dogra 11 ай бұрын
Correct ! He was acting for the camera
@judytieger8976
@judytieger8976 11 ай бұрын
What is with the daughter. What a poor judge of character.
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 11 ай бұрын
who would have a baby with that male? Some women are not fussy.
@dementedopossum8148
@dementedopossum8148 11 ай бұрын
Desperate woman and silver tongued Scot... Plenty of them around here in Ireland, strangely enough the women almost all seem to be English...
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
She likes LOSERS...
@barbarabrooks4747
@barbarabrooks4747 11 ай бұрын
Fathers don't realize how much damage their absence causes. Grifters gravitate towards homes with absent or weak fathers. Probably if the father had been there, this guy wouldn't have been allowed to move in unless he got a job. Depressed people don't realize how important they are! It's sad that nobody noticed his symptoms in time.
@WVgirl1959
@WVgirl1959 9 ай бұрын
How could a guy that won't work be good for your sister?
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 11 ай бұрын
Excellent they bugged the car, wow
@johnmchardy4502
@johnmchardy4502 11 ай бұрын
I thought murder was at least 20 years
@ceilconstante640
@ceilconstante640 10 ай бұрын
A broke unemployed man on public assistance should never be a consideration of a life partner! And even worse if he has kids with several other women! Love em & leave em, can't hold a job and anger issues. If you're vulnerable after losing a parent, do yourself a favor and don't date! Accept support from solid long term friends and spend some time alone.
@debrajohnson8030
@debrajohnson8030 6 ай бұрын
This is the most thurogh investigation ive ever watched , we need these kind of investigators every where !!!
@ranichalupsky2827
@ranichalupsky2827 11 ай бұрын
Police did a great job , ❤
@sophiamarquis
@sophiamarquis 11 ай бұрын
Divine intervention? Where and how? 😂
@CrackleCat
@CrackleCat 11 ай бұрын
The dog ate my gloves. He doesn't deserve a dog!
@Bielostotsky
@Bielostotsky 11 ай бұрын
R I P Mr & Mrs Corgrove.
@uaebifvideo5472
@uaebifvideo5472 11 ай бұрын
Court is encouraging crime by these weak sentences,in both, England and Canada !!.
@victrola2007
@victrola2007 11 ай бұрын
I hope that Sally lives with her contribution to her mother's death. He was obviously a narcissist and his 'love' is also obviously possessiveness/ownership.
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 11 ай бұрын
exactly. The more we learn about the red flags of narcissism the better, we can try and dodge having relationships and babies with them.
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
He just saw some chick with money & decided to leach off her & her mother....there was no love there...
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 11 ай бұрын
Misogyny is real
@muddydog6605
@muddydog6605 11 ай бұрын
"We are only as safe as men allow us to be"
@stevenking6967
@stevenking6967 10 ай бұрын
Cowardly bastard should be a lot more it's so frustrating RIP SWEET
@truthseeker474
@truthseeker474 10 ай бұрын
Why are your Judges more concerned about the safety & welfare of Murderers, Criminals & illegal Migrants, over those of victims & locals .?
@sylviabriggs4087
@sylviabriggs4087 11 ай бұрын
My god he takes a life and gets a holiday
@123UpNorth321
@123UpNorth321 11 ай бұрын
Unemployed man living with his mum. Sexy, what a catch.
@thegreencat9947
@thegreencat9947 11 ай бұрын
Run away...fast.
@sdmsdm7926
@sdmsdm7926 11 ай бұрын
LOL! Yeah great catch! The girl has zero self esteem.
@TraSea72
@TraSea72 11 ай бұрын
Time after time, this country seems to give extremely low sentences for murder. Very soft in crime.
@KyaniMosaic_Crone
@KyaniMosaic_Crone 9 ай бұрын
Such a heartbreaking case. That poor little one. Having to come into this world with that awful truth already a burden they'll carry for all their days. May it be a reminder to us all to be very mindful of who we let into our lives & that of our loved ones. Romantic or Platonic, our relationships have ripple effects. The only choice we get to have in what kind those happen to be was when we chose to have that relationship. We must also be mindful of those around them that we introduce our loved ones to. For instance, how many children have ended up falling victim to the step sibling(s).
@KyaniMosaic_Crone
@KyaniMosaic_Crone 9 ай бұрын
The original sentence was such an insult. And the reason given for it was clearly the magistrate victim blaming her for her own death.
@bisola7775
@bisola7775 11 ай бұрын
Great policing!
@janetdear6429
@janetdear6429 10 ай бұрын
😱 cor 13 years that's the biggest insult going. May she rest in peace 🙏, another interesting video thanks 🖤
@sylviabriggs4087
@sylviabriggs4087 11 ай бұрын
He will be out in half that time shocking
@ruthallen1159
@ruthallen1159 10 ай бұрын
It’s sickening the lax sentences these days for these criminals who deserve life, but only serve a few years and then get out to live the rest of their lives in freedom. Hers was taken away so why should he be out to do it again????
@nicholasschoonbeck6866
@nicholasschoonbeck6866 11 ай бұрын
I often think that there would be less women murdered if men had a better understanding how how ignorant they are about how to get away with that kind of crime, because so many men leave so much evidence, but this might be the best example of that I've ever seen.
@nicholasschoonbeck6866
@nicholasschoonbeck6866 11 ай бұрын
I should also say that another pattern we see in too many men, is that they either use past trauma in the woman's life against them, or don't seem to care about the past trauma, & knowing how their father died, & killing their mother in such a similar way, really shows the depth of selfishness in him.
@PaganPunk
@PaganPunk 11 ай бұрын
​@nicholasschoonbeck6866 have you Ever watched the Crime program 'Snapped' because its Mostly Women killing their Husbands!!!
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 11 ай бұрын
@@PaganPunk In the UK only 5 percent of females are in jail and 95 percent of males in jail. Men need to really look their own behaviour and do something about their anger management, and need for status and control
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 11 ай бұрын
A lot of them are psychopaths, they are arrogant and often impulsive
@ivydickson7596
@ivydickson7596 11 ай бұрын
@pagan punk, you haven't watched much of snapped, few women murderers. Predominately men.
@joycejardim7031
@joycejardim7031 9 ай бұрын
What an evil man. I wonder how the daughter feels now. She brought that loser to the house and he ends up killing her own mother.
@debwilson5236
@debwilson5236 10 ай бұрын
Heartbreaking my heart goes out to her family rest in eternal peace sweetheart ❤❤❤❤❤
@BN-hk6wf
@BN-hk6wf 9 ай бұрын
Rest In Peace Maureen. Hope you are at peace together with your husband.
@PrecipitationAndCorderoy
@PrecipitationAndCorderoy 11 ай бұрын
“Queee guapa you’re gorgeous” 😂
@prometheusunbound7628
@prometheusunbound7628 11 ай бұрын
You might call it divine intervention, but a more accurate word would be "irony."
@water4sure
@water4sure 9 ай бұрын
13 years for a sociopathic, cunning,murderous parasite who can not be rehabilitated should never see the light of day!
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