Exactly. I'm evil even with God threatening me 😂

"Character is what you do when no one is watching" People who need God to watch them to be good have no character.

Well... They are the unhinged nutters, who clearly have some DEEP psychological issues going down. I gave up religion YEARS ago, age 12 / 13 (I'm 50 now!) and I haven't committed a serious act of evil since! Sure... I ain't perfect (who the heck is?) but I've never committed a serious crime, nor do I go around hurting people. Much rather waste my time reading books, learning about Science and supporting those people whom I love. And there are MILLIONS more out there, just like me, who can function quite well without religion!

@@Eet_Mia Jesus is against rich people. That fact alone should prove to you that Jesus would hate the current church.

I'm always reminded of True Detective when this topic comes up. If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward then, brother, that person is a piece of s***. And I’d like to get as many of them out in the open as possible. You gotta get together and tell yourself stories that violate every law of the universe just to get through the goddamn day? What’s that say about your reality?"

Be free my friend! This channel helped me so much when I started questioning

This channel helped me a lot thx DM2525 ❤❤❤

Guys imagine being suicidal for years because of the hell thing. It's already torture

And in 20 years you would think that life was much better back then.

I disagree with this because it's a "religious" point. Objectively, what is "good" and "evil". If it's up to individuals, it's subjective. Since morality is subjective, religious people can be moral and non-religious can be moral as well. This point just feels the same as "you can't be moral if you're not religious" but in an opposite way- "if you're religious, you can't be moral." It's gatekeeping morality just like religion does.

@@phi4721 no it isn't. There are religious people that are good people genuinely. Then there are those that say they're good just because they're christians. This point is calling out how the bad religious people act like you can only be good if you're one of them and believe you'll go to hell after death if you're bad. So the non-religious response is what I've quoted: "If you need the threat of eternal suffering to be a good person, you are in fact not a good person." Because, there are people who do good things out of the kindness of their heart, then there are people who do good things just to avoid punishment. For example, you have the ability to stop someone from drowning and you're the closest to them. You have the strength, stamina, and a bouy with you. The person who helps out of the kindness of their heart will help this person not drown to save their life. But the the other will only help this person so people don't give them mean looks and lectures for seeing someone who needed help, having the ability to help, and intentionally not helping. Doing it for good vs doing it to avoid punishment. Which do you think is a better person?

​@@user-in9fb9jl8sThis is why I replaced Jesus with Superman. There's tons more actual £ucƙ¡n' wisdom in Superman stories, than in the degenerate stories in the "Holy" 📚 books. And I don't care about the fact that Supes is declaredly fictional, because he's AWESOME!

@@JDdr86 Yeah

[@Deshon] agree, there is no good in such a threat, they just pretend to be good by force

This is true for many things: racism, environment, climate, politics... I thought the Internet would help bring people together, but instead the technology has unfortunately made it possible to find like-minded and keep others outside.

Kek I'm a LaVeyen Satanist and we don't even "demon worship" so I find that kind of humorous. As long as she's not hurting anyone she can think what she likes no.

How to change that ?

It did exactly the opposite . And partially responsible are certain powers who want exactly that . Google is working on Internet 3.0 . And God have mercy (I'm not a believer but use that sentence) if that comes into being . Then our way of getting information is done for

Is that the church of Satan ? I heard a lot about it .

True

Who objectively gets to decide what is "good" and "evil"? If it's up to individuals, morality is subjective.

​@@phi4721 Morality _is_ subjective (beyond the obvious evolutionary empathic instincts) and that's why we humans, as a social species, have reasoned, improved upon, argued and clashed over it for millenia and still do. Duh. And no, that does not mean that atheists suddenly have no moral arguments against someone committing mass murder etc. Quite the opposite.

@@phi4721 it's based off harm particularly physical offense is quite the gray area but if the offense is connected to harm or doesn't teach anything valuable then that is morally objectively bad

It's called narcissism.

"When I see cringe, I don't cringe, I replicate." - Goodie.

Social justice is not cringe. Without social justice we can’t have a atheistic society

@@jenathent4840 Can't do without some kind of violence, I suppose. Even though "social justice" is supposed to be reparative. Hasn't been so far.

@@jenathent4840 The problem really comes down to how people end up calling people out in bad faith for not aligning with their idea of what "justice" is. People can have wildly different ideas of justice and society in general so in-fighting has been a large reason why social justice has not gained traction. In addition, many people who are deeply rooted in these causes are extremely opposed to debate or having their beliefs challenged and often claim the moral highground as an excuse not to engage in discussions.

​@@jenathent4840Social justice is a euphemism for wokeness not the literal definition of "society" + "justice"; Aka: rainbow fascism.

they will say that correlation is not causation

I think they would just say it's not religion, it's due to technological reasons. Which is true. 200 years ago we were more religious in France for example but winters were bitter cold without electricity. However, surely religion held us back from actively looking for solutions - like electricity.

Sounds like something Mother Teresa could answer 😮🤣

@@christianbergmann8114 100% held us back "Witch" hunts, extorting scientists to recant facts or cease research over pain of death, murder of non-full-believers (not believing 'enough' or 'the right way'). I'm pretty sure religion has been a net negative on mankind.

That's the thing, a lot of them don't think times are better now. There are some who unironically want to go back to the 10th century CE.

So sorry for your trauma. This angered me. I hope that you're having a good life now.

Damn it I'm so sorry that happened to you. That sounds worse than what I went through in the military, and I went through some pretty harsh training. Terrifies me that the same thing is probably happening to others right now, cloaked by the false benevolence of religion.

🤢

@@DarkMatter2525 you know more you view atheist views and AI simulation theory the more you prove god existence how ever you have hard points which leads to absurdity of life but also maybe they refer in bible to the astronaut that maybe we were made a lab and we got out of control so we got flooded but also the aliens needed a soul to create us but this all make you think that the whole exist is a test ground which also lead to the point would anything matter if any shit happens to us because anyway nothing will last on earth for ever . and heavean awaits , but also if the universe was god then do our brain information will run in a cosmic natural internet like the energy flow in the man made internet as this eXCHANGE OF INFO IS ALSO DERIVED FROM NATURE HOW I DONT DENY PPL USING RELEGION THAT HE ASKED TO PRAY FOR THE WELL BEING OF OUR DICTATORLP AND PROMOTED TO HELP HIS COUSIN ICECREAM SHOP TO GO AS COSTUMERS AND MORE TO THE LIST ONE MISSIONARY SAID PRAY AND GOD WILL CREATE NEW TOOTH I SAID WHAT HOSPITALS ARE MADE FOR?

The fact that this is supposed to be part of some divine plan proves that god is the ultimate abuser.

Careful or a theist will say, "You think you are a god! How evil!" I'd put 'how wicked' but then I just think of how that word and rad were said in the 90s. Or gnarly.

​@@bleakautomaton4808 as someone previously religious, you may (or may not) be surprised to know this is actually the argument used against making art since creativity is by nature an act of creation, which apparently God dislikes solely because it replicates his power (according to the established religions, just to clarify). I tried my best to accept this, only to discover more prohibitions and then to find that I'm basically playing an impossible game, since any sense of power at all felt like a transgression and violation of holy scripture.

​​​@@bleakautomaton4808Then there are the so-called "new-age" versions of the benevolant god and as us, corroborating these, opposing the old testiment version?

@@TheSapphireLeo I'm sorry I musta missed something, who said anything about old testament?

as much as i think the abrahamic faiths are bullhonky, they're very good resources for creating stories. look at Dogma starring Jay and Silent Bob for example. and even though the stars in our galaxy are not angels, the idea of the biblically accurate angels being up there in forms of starts can be a compelling cosmology that could lead to some very interesting world-crafting stories.

welcome to reality. 🙂

Yes, especially in the Bibke belt. Joking

The only extremists you should worry about are collectivists like the religious or people who support large governmental systems controlling people

Me too !

The most evil people in the world, get down on their knees and open their mouths and service. Jehovah, Yahweh, Allah, Elohim and his other name Jealous. One of the most evil and depraved parts of the world is the Bible Belt. By every measure of human depravity, the Bible Belt and the Middle East appears to leave the world, and now Russia is deep throating Jesus and Jehovah. If you want to defeat, every single Christian argument, go to the Bible and send them verses about predestination. If you wanna frustrate a Christian apologist, give them a good dose of Calvinism. Calvinism/predestination absolutely destroys. The notion of free will, and exposes God for the cruel vile evil being that he is.

DONALD JOHANN DRUMPF 666

Thanks for sharing mate. Really means a lot. Keep your head held high!

You are truely lost may God have mercy on your soul.

@jacobsteele925 may the lord have mercy on your soul for following a false prophet

@@Whocares512 That’s spelled with a capital “L”. He’s Lord to you, so show some respect and REPENT, while he still gives you a little time.

All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY

@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 No one needs your propaganda. Get out.

Ayo Wtf! 😂 he does

"ZEUUUUUUSSSS!!!" "Halt Kratos car! You will not go above the speed limit of the gods!"

He’s becoming a literal and figurative godslayer 😂 Thank you, Mr matter. You’ve inspired me to lose weight, exercise, diet, and look like eren yeager.

“AREEEEEEEEEEEES! Subvert the algorithm, and my channel is yours!”

I mean your not wrong

The issue at hand is sin and God’s nature of being just. Sin brings suffering (the pleasure is short term, and the suffering is long term-on earth and in hell forever). God brings Righteousness (may have short term suffering followed by long term pleasure- on earth and in Heaven). If you love yourself repent of your sins (lying, hatred, unforgiveness, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, stealing, dishonouring your parents etc) & believe in Jesus for forgiveness of sins. (Jesus died on the Cross as a sacrifice and defeated death by rising from the dead)

Its not reasoned and well argued, its fallacious and irrational. I reject the notion that I ought to respect you for such absurd reasoning.

@@followtruthwhereveritleads Elaborate, please.

@@MaciejuCz I made several paragraphs of comments arguing for my position 23 hours ago from now. Click on (newest comments) and scroll down to comments made 23 hours ago from now, and you'll see what I said. I wrote a lot, too much to say in 1 comment. I also commented on under another name as well. If you cannot find some or any of those comments, blame googletube for that, not me.

@@followtruthwhereveritleads Source: Trust me bro

@@MaciejuCz Something isn't bad just because its against humanity or harms humanity. The assumption with moralist atheists is that a world without humans would be bad. There's also the assumption that man ought to blindly follow nature's design, which is an appeal to nature fallacy.

Epic haha ⚡️

He really does! 😂

He is who God prays to for strength.

Always make sure to wear a protective cup when you wrestle God: According to the Bible, if you're a good enough wrestler to come close to defeating him, he'll cheat by grabbing your junk. Seriously, it's in the Old Testament.

😂 “You look like an incel’s wet dream… ….that’s definitely not a diss by the way ( _you were so gentle_ 🤫)”

No, the greatest trick was convincing people that he indeed existed

Lol I've said the same thing to Christians who tried to tell me the devil's best trick was making people believe he didn't exist, yet if the god of the Bible exists he's clearly evil. So if anything he's the devil who's convinced people he's god. So the devil's greatest trick is convincing almost 3 billion people he's actually god lol 😆 They get very angry when I point that out.

@@sharonreeve7537 and did you ever see anything?

@@JohnV170 he then took his medication

@@mylerwilson4879 lol that's good.

Buy two an gift the other

​@NamelessMist That's exactly why we need him to make important decisions on our behalf. Profound thinking. When was the last time you remember anyone in the higher ups saying something as positively profound as DarkMatter?

MAN! we love throwing our power at other ppl. "power scares me please take it!"

Immoral people cannot understand what makes their society moral or immoral. Look at how the people in an area are all doing and you will see their understanding. All leftists have no understanding and so they are surrounded by poverty and suffering.

The issue at hand is sin and God’s nature of being just. Sin brings suffering (the pleasure is short term, and the suffering is long term-on earth and in hell forever). God brings Righteousness (may have short term suffering followed by long term pleasure- on earth and in Heaven). If you love yourself repent of your sins (lying, hatred, unforgiveness, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, stealing, dishonouring your parents etc) & believe in Jesus for forgiveness of sins. (Jesus died on the Cross as a sacrifice and defeated death by rising from the dead)

@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 I'll remember how great this god is when I read where he told his chosen people to murder innocent children and women in the Old Testament, telling them they can keep the little virgin children as sex slaves (Numbers 31); in addition to enslaving the people around them that weren't "chosen people." Thinking the god the Israelis made up is real any more than the other gods people made up is ridiculous. Saying that Jesus brought a new covenant, doesn't explain how slavery and child sex trafficking was okay with god, to say nothing of the genocide and the other terrible immoral things written by the ancient Israelites. It's a religion they invented to make themselves self important and to give them an excuse to steal land occupied by other people and to justify their murder.

@@stevenpike7857 Not sex slaves but to marry them Look ill share something personal. I’ve personally seen Jesus (Not worthy), Heaven and Hell. Hell is worse than what you think (I was shaking after that experience), and Heaven is better than what you think. I have also received a personal healing miracle, I can go into details if you want. This is how God works. If you give Him the benefit of the doubt, He gives you more and more. Would I spend even 2 minutes preaching if I had an ounce of doubt? (I’ve experienced way too much)

Huh, you might have a point there. All the matter in existence is already here in the universe. If the atoms get shuffled over billions and trillions of years, eventually, it will come back full circle again. Very fascinating thought!

Okay, the more I think about this comment, the more profound it becomes. Now, take it a step further: what if this is your second time experiencing this life, in this exact moment, in the exact chair you are sitting in? It was probably trillions of years ago, and you just don't remember it. What are the things you wished you had done differently the first time? What if this lifetime IS your second chance at life?

Morality is innately understood. Fire is hot and it burns, so you don't touch it. You don't like being burned, you don't like pain, you understand what it means when you burn other people or cause them pain. Morality. It is universal.

@@bobjohnson1633 It's both. Some aspects of morality are built in, part of our brain, created by natural selection, and explained by game theory and evolutionary psychology. Other aspects are cultural and memetic, changing with time, determined by societal consensus, partly what worked for societal stability and partly arbitrary.

@@Eudaletism Exactly. Groups of humans who didn't randomly murder eachother or piss eachother off all the time flourished, those that did...well didn't. Yes people still do those awful things, but the percentage of the population that does is thankfully small, and we developed systems to try and keep them in check.

@@bobjohnson1633morality isn’t inherent. There’s nothing within a human genome to say breaking and entering is bad. Inflicting pain is to some people not a bad thing, some people like pain, some people think inflicting pain is a morally correct thing. Octopus punch fish for fun, a clearly immoral trait

@@bobjohnson1633 ok but what if I like burning others why is that wrong

Most people have heard “Jesus/God loves you”. Does that mean they have a relationship with God and will go to heaven? Depends on the individual. A relationship is 2 sided, you receive love and you give love back. God showed His love by suffering, dying on the cross and rising from the dead for you, now you show Love back by repenting of your sins (lying, stealing, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain etc) and believing in Jesus as your Lord and saviour so that Heaven is in your future not hell.

In such case police and military wouldn't exist

@@portalsevil If it wasn’t the case, police and military wouldn’t exist because there would be no laws.

If you're looking for an atheist perspective, i suggest you look into atheists responding to questions for atheists. It should also be interesting to see different atheists answer to the same questions differently.

Out of curiosity, what is it that keeps your belief going? Are you a theist or a deist?

Another perspective is that you don't believe in some gods so you aren't so different from atheists is how you see the moral views of other gods' religions.

@@wandererstraining personal accounts from large amounts of people, to be honest. I'm a Christian. But I'm second guessing because he's made some really good points. I'm asking around for an explanation to the fact that there are so many religions all different from each other. He's right. That's EXACTLY what you would expect if religion was a human construct. That's why I need answers.

​@johnsuarez1404 Thanks for the honest answer. Have you considered that those personal experiences probably reflected a deep desire for certain things to be real, and could be due to a form of suggestion? To add to the multitude of gods, people of different faiths will have personal experiences relating to their faiths. Even Christians will have slightly different experiences based on the kind of beliefs they espouse. Muslims might have visions of Muhammad. Hindus of Shiva or something like that. Indonesians get possessed... by spirits of animals. I was talking with a Chinese friend a couple of weeks ago, and she didn't think that demons were scary, but was pretty scared of ghosts, even tho she doesn't really believe in them. Whereas, as a Westerner, I think that demons would be way scarier. There are a bunch of differences based in culture and local beliefs, and people's personal experiences are, as far as I know, always based on the beliefs they already hold or the beliefs that are prevalent in their culture. You never see a "non believer" start believing in a religion they didn't grow up around because of a sudden spiritual experience. If someone has never heard of it, they'll never discover that it's true by revelation.

All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY

youre a real one mr liam

They pretend to b polite or they r polite.

Yes morality did exist before the abrahamic God. But it was a much different morality you probably wouldn't approve off

Fair is subjective. Morality is universal. It is the understanding of living things of things they don't want to happen. The level of moral duty is based on our comprehension of that morality. Morally, no living thing should do to any other living thing something that harms it unless you must to live. Everything will kill for food. Nearly all things will not kill unless they need to. It is either due to understanding in more intelligent animals, or due to evolution requiring that you don't kill everything or you too will die.

Well yes as god isn't real and we have morality So yes I think it's unquestionable

​@@donaldhysa4836not really Literally every part of Abrahamic religion is stolen from thousands of tribal beliefs So a silly non point

What about amorality spread by religions created by warmongers like islam? All the prophet did was copy judaism and slap cult of his own personality and fanatic militia generatic dogma on it, with rewards for propagating it further by murder or deceit. That sadly remains being used/carried out in modern day...

i wish to die due to narcisst abuse but i believe making videod against God can be a good career choice what you say guys ?

​@@henrytuedor2650 People here care more about the truth than the slant. Speak well and be paid for it. Nothing has changed about that since the ancient Greek times.

they were the first videos of his that the algorithm showed me. thought it was wild that animations are the main thing on the channel, I was convinced that this guy sitting down and going in depth on philosophy WAS the channel

Morality binds and blinds

But netherless morality is still objective because morality is based on truth and truth is objective. In China 2 plus 2 is 4, In india 2 plus 2 is 4, In Mexico 2 plus 2 is 4, In Russia 2 plus 2 is 4 In india rape is wrong because its harmful, In colombia rape is wrong because its harmful, In canada rape is wrong because its harmful, In australia rape is wrong because its harmful Morality is meant to be built on truth and truth is objective, so morality is meant to be objective.

@@m.g.6394 Math is different from morality. In some countries it is ok for women to show their hair or even their face while in other countries it is immoral. In some countries it is ok to go to a beach nude and in others it is not. This is morality. Is it moral to keep someone alive on life support when they are brain dead? For some yes and for others no.

@@m.g.6394 is abortion moral?

@@jimflagg4009 "math is different from morality" No, both are supposed to be based on factual truth. "Rape is wrong" isn't an opinion, it's an objective fact.

The issue at hand is sin and God’s nature of being just. Sin brings suffering (the pleasure is short term, and the suffering is long term-on earth and in hell forever). God brings Righteousness (may have short term suffering followed by long term pleasure- on earth and in Heaven). If you love yourself repent of your sins (lying, hatred, unforgiveness, sexual sins, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, stealing, dishonouring your parents etc) & believe in Jesus for forgiveness of sins. (Jesus died on the Cross as a sacrifice and defeated death by rising from the dead)

Honestly, the DarkMatter guy looks like Kratos from the God of War videogames.

*GOW4 and 5 kids when they see a bald guy with a beard*

@@modmaker7617 his name is jon, he's fourty-something and is a military veteran

The book of Job was about god inflicting horrific suffering on his most loyal and devote worshipper at the time in order to satisfy a bet with the devil. So, yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath to expect that such a being would be empathetic enough to be concerned about little Timmy's life threatening struggle with cancer.

​@@meh2510 message of book of Job is clearly might-makes-right.

If you read the book of stupidity you will be just as intelligent as humanity was 2000 years ago.

brothers, what have we done. look at us. look at what we've become. This isn't right. we're wasting time going on about girls and sus drawings that don't give a f*ck about us. What is the point of lust? Why do we do this? This doesn't fix our problems, doesn't make the stress and pain go away. repent to God, friends. We must stay focused, brothers, on what really matters. I'm only 17, but I'm telling you, in the words of johnny cash, "sooner or later God will cut you down." you will lose almost everything important to you. please, for your sakes, repent and turn to Jesus. He is, in the words of Skillet, "better than drugs." He is also better than lust. love > lust. You'll find out that this is true. love may hurt, and same for lust, but lust will keep you chained down, eventually killing you. Ayo I don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested (read on) hell was never meant for us, my fellow youtube user. it was for the devil and his squad, and God gave us the Way out of there since we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. God knew we were wack, but He decided He was still come down and help us, despite our unfaithfulness. most relationships (like friendships, romantic relationships) aren't like this. Very few, but not a whole lot. religion (Christianity) is just a relationship with God along with loving others (see james 1:27) also, we have various types of evidence that backs up tthe Bible. Here's one example: Scientists have discovered that the earth "skipped" a day. The Bible explains how that happened. In the book of Joshua, Joshua asked the sun to stop so he and the Israelites could defeat their enemies. Then in 2 Kings, King Hezekiah learned he was dying, and pleaded to God to not let him die. God sent a prophet to king hezekiah who said hezekiah would live. Hezekiah wanted a sign, and that would be for the sun to defy the law of inertia and go back 10 degrees. NASA confirmed it and did the math (look it up for more info). We also found Noah’s Ark hanging out in turkey, along with anchor stones marked with crosses signifying that it’s a revered place, along with altars and many other things. Look it up, it’s good stuff The Holy Spirit exists. I was a slave to s3xual sin for 7-ish d@mn years. Finally at 16, God freed me. Also, look up John Gabbana's (boonk gang) testimony. Dude did a lot of wacky stuff. He's changed now. also, the soul exists. someone i know (i won't say who- privacy reasons) saw their soul leaving their body. like pulling off a band-aid, except it doesn't hurt. I was suicidal for 9-ish months, but then I read John 3:16, and poof- the big sad went away in one night. There are also non-Christian sources who have confirmed the existence and divinity of Jesus, some of which were hostile towards Christianity, such as: Thallus (52 AD), who said Jesus lived, was crucified, and confirmed the darkness and earthquake that followed Christ’s crucifixion; Tacitus (56-120 AD), who called the followers of Christ Christians, confirmed that Jesus was crucified under Pontus Pilate’s command Talmud (400-700 AD), confirmed that the disciples were martyred for their faith, and confirmed Jesus was executed the day before the Passover, and said Jesus had “magical” powers Pliny the Younger (61-113 AD), who said that the Christians thought Jesus was/is God in the Flesh (God the Son) Phlegon (80-140 AD), who said Jesus had the ability to predict the future, and confirmed that Jesus was crucified during Caesar’s reign, confirmed Jesus rose from the dead, and confirmed He showed His wounds to confirm He was crucified. Celcus (175 AD), who said Jesus was born of a virgin, said His father is a carpenter, and confirmed Jesus had miraculous powers (See cold-case Christianity for more details) Here’s the physical evidence of Jesus and His Resurrection: 1) No persecution would have started if He hadn’t come back (the disciples thought Jesus would never resurrect) 2) The Roman soldiers would have paid with their lives if they failed at their jobs 3) there was a 2-4 ton rock that 11-12 guys would have to move (they didn’t have any help. Everyone said “crucify Him”) major L to those opposed to Jesus 4) there was a Roman seal which was a metal pin that sealed the tomb stone 5) Stealing the Jesus’s body isn’t something the disciples would do (besides Judas. Although he hung himself after feeling remorse for betraying Jesus). 6) the disciples wouldn’t die for what they knew would be a lie. (The lie being Jesus never made the ultimate comeback) faith, science, and reason, people hit me up to learn more about how science proves the Bible or just about God in general

Ah, nice phrase, delusional spell!!!

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The world suffering wasn't God's plan, the world was perfect in the beginning and free of suffering - that was his plan. Not religious though, just explaining their mindset

@@m.g.6394 okay...interesting! Now, assuming that "God" is still around and watching, seeing the suffering, why doesn't he change it? And some things God created end up causing suffering directly (as opposed to creating something that causes harm that is out of "His control", like someone becoming a murderer, for example), like natural disasters, hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, etc. These seem like things that could have just not existed, but they do, and they cause displacement and stress and sometimes injury and death...why would he create those circumstances? What about vicious, disfiguring animal attacks? Why create animals that destroy each other, if you have the power to create a more harmonious world? Why introduce pathogens, and disease? I understand that in order for new things to grow and develop, there has to be a cycle that involves death, which is a natural part of the cycle, and we generally view it as sad and painful. I'm not talking about that, but the suffering before it, the drawn out pain before the inevitable. I know you said you're not religious, and I don't expect a full on debate or anything, I am simply asking whoever feels like they have the answer to that, to explain it to me so it makes sense. These are the questions I have always had, that no one really wants to answer directly, in my experience.

@@juliana.x0x0 Yeah none of it makes any damn sense. Why the hell does God allow bone cancer to exist? It's all insanity. There are 8 billion people in the world, but 100 billion humans have existed before that. If death didn't exist there would be 100 billion humans so the resources of the earth would be depleted. In other words, death must exist But God could make death painless instead of allowing horrifying diseases to exist Or he could create a planet that grows in size as more people occupy it, if God is all powerful and all knowing and all merciful, he could easily create a far better reality. None of it makes any sense

Yeah, religion baltantly promptes racism and sexism. Basicly if you're not the right color and gender then you're property for others to own 🤦‍♂️

Btw. Forgot to say. Love your Cthulhu shirt!

What I mean is local leadership like bad bishops bad stake presidents etc. Middle men

And occasionally top men

Rotten apples so to speak

That's more of the work of belief it or not; dark matter deals with beliefs , Trevor deals with corruption

Or heaven.

Well, you can share the video with people you know who need it in hopes it has some effect or opens some discussion. Of course many will just either ignore all the logic and/or get angry at you, so don't take this as life advice hahah

P1) God is perfect P2) Perfection involves existence C1) God exists

@@joyboy4549 All unsubstantiated claims with zero supporting evidence. Not a compelling argument to any reasonable person.

@@joyboy4549god is perfect. Perfection doesn’t exist. God doesn’t exist

@@Pull54545454 hi

yet some ppl who suffer become abusers. suffering isnt the only variable in the topic you bring up.

He spent too much time grinding in the starting area.

You must have enjoyed his word~salad.

@@bonitajanssen745 Evil people like you always pretend to be good

@@bonitajanssen745you don’t gotta admit that you didn’t understand it lol

@@theveganduolingobird7349 Because it is nothing but word~salad.

I’ve heard people say God allowed it, in religious circles, but not that God willed it. In certain religious povs, God allows evil for reasons we cannot know, but does not do evil himself.

The problem is that if you have omnipotence, nothing happens or Can happen outside of your will. In short, your inaction is the same as action if "Your Will" is the rules of reality. If you do not prevent something as an omnipotent being, then it is only Because Of You that it exists at all. If you didn't Want it to exist, it just Wouldn't.@@neuroticnation144

@@neuroticnation144god can force people to be evil however, like the pharaoh story. His heart was hardened two times, one at the beginning of the story (or way before it idk) and then one at around the end. If god is real you could compare Hitler to the pharaoh. Why does god allow genetics and the world around a person to make them evil? God could easily make a world where we all grew up to be stronger than temptation but he doesn’t.

Why do you blame God for something that an Atheist regime did?

@@friendsandfamily100 I’m sooo tired of people claiming that the nazi’s were an “atheist” regime. Hitler was a Christian, most people in Germany were Christian, nazi or otherwise, the soldiers literally had “God is with us” printed (in German of course) on the inside of their uniforms (specifically it was on their belts if I remember correctly). By no means were they an atheist; regime, nation, group, leadership, majority or anything of the sort. This is more brain dead than claiming that communists were an atheist regime, despite them being supported by the Russian orthodoxy, since at the very least the U.S government made a lot of propaganda falsely claiming as such. Edit: typo, used a comma instead of a semicolon once

It's not that the character of Yahweh doesn't care; he explicitly causes harm on purpose, holds us hostage to it to coerce us to kiss his butt, and gaslights us into thinking all of that is our fault. He cares very strongly.

@@CookiesRiot Narcissists so the same thing. It makes me wonder how many narcissists wrote in the Bible. How many were narcissists and how many weren't but naively copied narcissist views from the pages and kept writing.

​@@kacklerotMost of the bible, especially the OT, is pretty explicitly propaganda written by and for power hungry narcissists attempting to legitimize their power and control over others and validate their squabbles.

​@@kacklerotThe authors didn't have to necessarily be narcissists, they only needed to normalize Bronze Age narcissism. Paradigm shifts occur not when enlightened people find fault with old systems; they occur when the disfunction is painfully obvious to nearly everyone else. As they said in the Civil Rights movement; "You can't be what you can't see".

@@kellywalker1664 So did narcissists exploit this dysfunction under everyone's nose? Because I only say narcissist because God himself in the Bible behaves like a narcissist so I figure it might be a reflection of the authors thinking of when we owe God for being sinners we really owe this narcissist who is the author. Like if I make a character in a cartoon and people see the character behaves like he's autistic and I actually am autistic so it would be an astute observation. The character behaves this way because I can't see the world like a normal person because I don't view the world with normal eyes.

I was expecting him to look kind of nerdy, based on his voice. Instead he looks bad ass. Not what I expected.

That makes no sense. How would God knowing everything in the future stop you from having free will?

@@ShawnRKA Because if God has a plan and everything goes according to God's plan in which he knows the outcome of every single human interaction, then how could you possibly ever make a choice that goes against God's plan? There is no free will in this situation

@@spacebook8923 you don't know what free will means.

@@ShawnRKA nice job dodging the question

@@spacebook8923 God works around our free will to bring about His will. How do you not have free will?