We don't need the god of the jws and all the prophetic validation that comes with it.

🐟 16. YOGA (RELIGION): YOGA & RELIGION DEFINED: The English word “religion” originates from the Latin verb “religare”, meaning “to join” or “to unite”. It is the precise equivalent of the Sanskrit noun “yoga”, from the verbal root “yuj” (“to attach, harness, or yoke”). Thus, religion/yoga implies union with the Supreme Self, or, to provide a more accurate and profound definition, the understanding and realization that there is nothing BUT the Supreme Self (“Paramātmāṇ”, in Sanskrit). Other definitions include “union of the body and the mind” and “union with God”, both of which are valid in the appropriate context. Perhaps the best definition of “yoga/religion” is “the UNION of the relative and the Absolute”, meaning, one who has fully realized himself to be, in essence, the very Ground of Being (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit), but knows precisely how to integrate that understanding within temporal existence, just as, for example, Lord Jesus Christ so admirably demonstrated during His public ministry over two millennia ago, in Israel. A similar understanding of the terms “yogaḥ” and “religion” to that given above, would be as follows: “Religion/yoga is the union of the external and internal worlds”. This refers to an authentic, HARMONIOUS integration of a human being’s outlook of the external sphere of material objects (which includes other minds and intellects), and one's internal way of being. This interpretation comports with the definition of “yogaḥ” found in the “Yogaḥ Sūtras” of Patañjali, who codified various schools of Samkhya and yoga about two thousand years ago, in India. THE ORIGIN OF RELIGION ACCORDING TO TRADITION: According to some sources, YOGA (authentic religion) was introduced to human society over twelve thousand years ago, by the Ādiyogī (first religionist), Mahādeva Śiva, in His form known as Dakṣiṇāmūrti, in the subcontinent of Bhārata (India). Lord Śiva (pron. “Shiva”) is universally recognized to be the first Avatar (“Avatāra”, in Sanskrit). an Avatāra is a man who is a pure embodiment of the Divine, enlightened from birth, and usually devotes His life to spreading transcendental knowledge. See the Glossary entry under “Avatāra” for a more extensive definition. Other sources claim that RELIGION began when Lord Brahmā spoke the “Veda” (“[Book of] Knowledge”) in ancient Sanskrit, the essential teachings of which are non-dual, that is to say, describe everything in existence having the same ground of being. In other words, “All is One” without a second. “Sarvam khalvidam brahma” (Chandogya Upanishad 3.14) teaches that “All this is indeed Brahman” (“Brahman” referring to the totality of existence/non-existence). Read the first few chapters of “F.I.S.H” to understand the concept of Peaceful-Conscious-Being. Whether or not these historical events really occurred is irrelevant to the purposes of this chapter, and to the implications of this Scripture. THE ORIGIN OF RELIGION ACCORDING TO THE WORLD TEACHER: In the considered opinion of this author, it is FAR more likely that religion began when human beings evolved to the necessary degree that we began experiencing spiritual awakenings, possibly about ten to twenty thousand years ago. This is plausible for the following two reason: FIRSTLY, the most ancient known metaphysical position, non-duality (“advaita”, in Sanskrit), is the most common conclusion of those who have undergone a spiritually-transformative experience commonly called “awakening”, “a peak experience”, “cosmic consciousness”, “unitive consciousness”, and far less accurately, “enlightenment”. So, when certain individuals began to experience such awakenings (either by observing some kind of contemplative practice, or most probably, entirely spontaneously), they would ponder their experiences from an intellectual perspective, and start to formulate explanations for their strange experiences. Subsequently, these “buddhas” (a Sanskrit/Pāli term for “an awakened being”) would most likely share their experiences with others, including those who had also experienced some kind of awaking, and in time, codify their realizations in the form of aphoristic verses, to be passed-on to their student disciples. Eventually, these aphorisms would be written-down and expanded-upon by succeeding generations, and come to be known as “Holy Scriptures”. Those who have studied the two oldest religious traditions (sanātana dharma and Judaism) will undoubtedly acknowledge my theory to be exceedingly credible, for the evidence is overwhelming once one explores the sacred texts, and considers the natural development of similar institutions. In the following chapter, the distinction between an awakening experience and the concept of spiritual enlightenment, will be clarified. SECONDLY, as alluded to above, it was necessary for the human species to sufficiently evolve (not only biologically, but even more importantly, socially and linguistically) to the level where we could reconcile our mystical experiences with our mundane daily lives, rather than focus our attention entirely on survival, especially before the agricultural revolution, approximately twenty thousand years ago. For the greater part of our history, we were preoccupied with gathering sufficient foodstuffs in order to simply stay alive. A sceptic could easily dismiss religion in general by noting that, because religion was not instantiated at the very commencement of the Homo sapiens species, it is merely a manmade institution, and therefore, extrinsic to our psyche. Hopefully, this book, taken as a whole, will prove that assertion to be a fallacious claim. I must admit that I too, when I was in my late teenage years, wondered why, if there really was a Supreme Deity, the reason for non-human animals seeming to not have any communion with the Divine. After all, if God truly exists, should not the other animals have some kind of intimate, personal relationship with their Heavenly Father? Of course, as explained elsewhere in this treatise, I now know that even the vast majority of humans who have ever lived were thoroughly deluded concerning their metaphysical perspectives of Ultimate Reality, and failed to establish genuine union with the Divine Principle, what to speak of the lower animals, which lack the requisite cognitive capacity to do so. THE DEVELOPMENT OF RELIGION: Since the prehistoric period, systems of religion have evolved, or have been revealed, by prophetic figures on the continent of ASIA. Supernatural mythologies and superstitions developed in other locations too, most of which featured animistic narratives and primitive rituals, but not quite to the same philosophical level of the monotheistic and monistic religions of Middle East Asia, Bhārata (India), and China. At present, there exists literally thousands of diverse religious teachings and spiritual paths, though they all necessarily conform to at least one of the four systems of yoga described below. This Holy Book is the culmination of several millennia of metaphysical understandings and moral/ethical rules (read: laws, or to be more precise, the law [“dharma”, in Sanskrit]) and accordingly, is the pinnacle of all religious teachings. Cont...

I don't see people being the best humans that they can be, so why should I trust some other person when he tells me that he knows the 'mind of God"? I doubt he even knows his own mind.

​@@danfrancis2707You are partially correct that we dont need the jews, but european christianity is its own thing, and what build the west and western morality. Denigrating it or rejecting it is exactly what the jews want.

I would suggest you talk next about the demon cults and tribes that are destroying the west, specifically related to the judaic talmud

man made god, if man is lost, then his creation is too

God abandons no man. There are only men who abandon God.

​@@amalebowskyewho created mankind

​@@HOENUMANthe universe

@@HIIIBEAR who created universe

Man do both. Just like the savage that forms and paints a piece of wood, kneels before it and worships.

​@@alvarogabrielaguirregarin3933spoken like a product of a cheap, public school lower education. Education in the West is a scandal.

There are only two faiths. Faith in God, and faith in man. Man is not God. God created the Universe, the world, and life out of nothing. Man is the image bearer of God, always in rebellion against the Creator.

What's your relationship with God? Did you delve into a religion?

Those who believe in God also believe in anything because God’s omnipotence makes anything possible. Man coming from dirt? Man living to be 950 years old? Virgin birth? Winged horse to heave? Dinosaurs on a boat? All possible with God.

Idk which side this quote is supposed to be on lol.

I stopped believing in god because the religion told me to precisely believe in everything within its narrative without evidence. This is no freedom.

@@shadeaquaticbreeder2914 I interpret it as a variation on: _He who stands for nothing, will fall for anything._

1 Americanism 2 Racial Superiority 3 Consumerism 4 Drugs and hedonism 5 Gun culture 6 Rampant Capitalism 7 " Freedom"

Beautifully put

It's been a long, arduous climb, and I'm pretty sure I got lost on the forest trail, but now I can see the peak and where to go. Great analogy.

The ultimate.. the unnamed, the essence of all religion and spirit...

C.H. Rathbun hypnotherapy meditation here on KZfaq based on A Course In Miracles can help, but it's just one of thousands of paths.

there is only one true Path, also known as the Way. the others are false, and dead ends.

now give me money and more drugs and make sure to thank my priests with a stipend. you forgot the last part where they used wisdom to extort the masses.

​​​@@bas-tn3umAnother straw man argument. An argument against organized religion is not an argument against God. Most arguments I see are pretending like the faults of religion somehow invalidate belief in God. They're not mutually exclusive.

@@bas-tn3umThe statement in itself is very true. I don't know why politics had to be brought up.

"proceeds to get massacred for stealing money from their followers" - Lacedeamonian Gang

m.clearquran.com/downloads/quran-english-translation-clearquran-edition-allah.pdf#page12

Things like money…fractional reserve currency, that have no value. It’s funny and sad how we sacrifice everything for something that isn’t real. But good luck convincing everyone about this.

@@SC-gw8np doesn't matter if they are convinced. It's important that we speak the Truth into the universe and let the universe do it's job.

I agree. And the beliefs and rules of God are totally real and have been passed down for thousands of years so no idiot can say God was invented by just one person or group. If you ask Jesus into your heart and to touch your soul then you will feel something very real. Just try it.

Speak life - damian Marley

@@PolishBehemothUhh. Humanity is a group and those beliefs keep changing. So … what exactly is this about? Besides, I did the believer bit for a while, “felt the touch,” then realized I was using my mind to masturbate. Try religious abstinence-it’s much more fulfilling.

You do know that ears can also be used to apply copious amounts of spaghetti on top of them?

@@romany8125 Such advises are a lot safer for the common human to ... hear.

@@HeathenDance i assume you consider yourself uncommon?

@@romany8125 I don't eat fast food, I don't drink Coke and other sodas, I don't drive, I don't watch porn, I didn't take the Covid vaccines, I don't celebrate Christmas, and I wear Cannibal Corpse t-shirts, even if I'm dating fancy girls. Etc, etc. Statistically and objectively speaking, yes, I'm uncommon.

@@HeathenDance how predictably common of you to consider yourself uncommon.

The fear of death is the beginning of god.

Love based on fear is far from real love.There is no god,lighten up.

FEAR meaning respect, one of grievous mistranslations in the Bible.

No, Proverbs is wrong. Wisdom has nothing to do with fear.

​@@digital6string1what is real love?

so a fuckin cop out tell me how islam compares to christianity in a violence scale. factually speaking not your opinion based on facts which is more violent. the one that invaded over 300 countries over 1400 years or the ones that defended their religious allies. hinduism where human sacrifice was performed or christianity where it was outlawed. christianity is by no means perfect its a human ideology and belief system but i dare you to find human sacrifice calls to unjust war or a decree to conquer the world in it. go on ill wait. now watch you cherry pick muh homosexuals muh slavery muh religious wars. you cant acknowledge the difference between religions than you shouldnt get to criticize when one is favorited.

yes, I like that is a broad stroke that encompasses the general truth 😮

​@@evanstentialyes, of course you do, because you hate Truth and Jesus. your profile picture of the all seeing eye is proof enough that you hate Christ and love freemasonry.

and for OP; No, snakes cant walk. But only because God has taken their legs, and left their stumps there to prove it to you 6-7k years later.

so a vague none specific sophistry? that you can call " spiritualism" while having no moral taboos im shocked.

I would highly recommend the book/pdf ‘The Rediscovery of Wisdom’ by David Conway. This isn’t WHY I would recommend it, but as a cool fact it is the book that caused famous atheist philosopher Anthony Flew to accept general theism. Although I would say that it’s also possible that maybe there were many other factors that he wrestled with for years…and that book just pushed him over the finish line. Awesome book!!

It doesn’t feeli like a synchronicity, my man. It is one.

@@JoeBuck-uc3bl It is normal for an atheist to accept general theism. Atheism is based on a concept that no single school of supernatural thought can prove it is the one and only true factual belief. An acceptance of general theism does not contradict atheism. Some atheists continue to observe religious-linked events even though they did not necessarily believe in the supernatural literalism linked to these events. As the main character in the musical Fiddler on the Roof described it, people did certaint things because it was tradition. 😊😊

@@fortpark-wd9sx it caused Anthony Flew to “Believe” general theism. Yes of course, different people could intellectually believe in many different worldviews, and at the same time be accepting of opposing worldviews of others. When I said ‘Accepted’ I meant ‘Accepted as being true.’ “Atheism is the one and only true factual belief.” You do realize that in order to make such a bold claim you would have to follow it up proof that God doesn’t exist right? What would that proof be?

@@JoeBuck-uc3bl My earlier words were -)Atheism is based on a concept that no single school of supernatural thought can prove it is the one and only true factual belief. 😊😊

"divine" is a chemical reaction in your body.

This seems like a dichotomy fallacy my friend. There are many other possible outlooks that others may choose to hold. I’m not sure it’s wise to expose a lack of thought in the comment section of a KZfaq channel that is designed to help uncover truth.

There are many atheists who were once very religious people. They have experienced the divine and left the faith.

@TheOsamaBahama That would be a lie or evidence that man can experience the divine and still fall away from it due to his own faults. It's a ridiculous assertion to claim that if one believed in something and then later did not believe it, that thing must be false. Plenty of people discard good and rational beliefs for inferior, immoral and irrational ones due to their own failings. This is not a refutation of divinity or religion, but an affirming of it. As many religions warn that even the greatest can fall. Your point is thus not evidence of what you have claimed, but an affirmation of the exact opposite.

It depends. What do you mean by "experiencing the divine"? Something happened once or a couple times that made you feel a certain way? Something you cant explain?

Lord, Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner ☦️

@@davidstone5595 Amen, my Brother.

I feel the same way about Santa Claus. I never used to believe in Him when I was a child, but now that I'm an adult I know the truth. He has profound wisdom. He knows when you're naughty or nice. Without Him, my life has no meaning. Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas everyone!

@@davidstone5595you are brainwashed by a fictional book into believing that you are a “sinner.” A prime example of the issue with major religions. I recommend you taking an interest in psychology and studying how the mind works. Living your life with such negativity about yourself is not healthy.

@@bruha321 That's cool, I guess. Maybe someday you'll grow out of liking secular fairy tales - or perhaps not, is doesn't matter to me either way. Who am I to judge you for your beliefs?

Yep. Human government is the manifestation of rebellion, hence a crisis.

We've not. God was used to justify power for centuries

@konyvnyelv. God says if you don't work, you don't eat. Government says you don't have to work. Vote for us, and we'll feed you, shelter you, and even pay you to make babies. So yes, we've replaced God with government and just look at the societal decay.

@konyvnyelv. the Lord says if you don't work, you don't eat. The other says, vote for us, and we'll shelter you, feed you, and pay you to reproduce. Sounds like a replacement

God says if you don't work, you dot eat. The government says vote for us, and we'll feed you, shelter you, and pay you to procreate.

LOL

Name one society that thrives without God.

@@dukeofistria5712 Norway

​@@eagle_serpentWhat does it mean to be without God?

Could it be said then that all philosophical and metaphysical concepts are therefore the results of men's opinions and therefore invalidated as you said? What about the idea of human rights? They only exist conceptually due to the opinion of the men who originally penned the idea

Exactly. God is false

Chat gpt is just as lost as real humans are, blurting out the same religious propaganda most of us have been sold since birth. comforting in a darkly comedic way. it'll probably even start to convince itself that *it* believes in God LoL

@@egrytznr8893 not sure what you are rambling on about. ChatGPT just took the exact transcript of this video and summarized it. I think the summary is accurate.

@@mbrochh82 sorry I didn't really read the whole comment or the response LoL my bad. I must have got you mixed up with the dude who asks ChatGPT for opinions about these videos, my mistake I see now it's a just summary I overlooked that both times 😬, I still don't see the point but to each their own.

@@egrytznr8893 hehe, ok under that light your comment makes more sense. I add those summaries to my Obsidian notes app. It is an incredibly helpful tool. ie I watch a lot of videos about nutrition, and after a while, all these little facts accumulate in my notes.I can then use another AI tool to ask a question like "What do I know about the impact of Vitamin D on sleep" and the tool will find all relevant summaries, add them to a prompt and let ChatGPT answer my question based on my own knowledge (not based on the bullshit it was trained on). Also, there are incredibly long podcasts, like the recent Lex Fridman + Tucker Carlson podcast... 3hrs... who the hell has time to listen to three hours of those dudes being nice to each other? In any given 3hr podcast the amount of real actionable tangible insights is maybe 15 minutes. These summaries extract exactly that knowledge and ignore all the fluff and padding. It is a huge time saver.

Religious morality means killing those who disagree

Literally impossible

That would do us a lot of good ! 👍👍

You can't argue for morality at all without metaphysics. Only in a metaphysical framework can morality be something of true significance anyways. Without metaphysics, morality is just a biological drive, and people can train themselves to ignore it to their own (or their group's own) material benefit. Should we do that? Would that be good?

@@arditienthusiast8384exactly how?

@@EBR.402 You're seriously asking me that? I cannot believe you've existed in this world for more than 10 years and don't intuitively understand through pure life experience that people are not going to do that. I don't even a theological argument for that its so blatantly obvious to any human being.

find Christ, not religion.

@@darnellpistachio2991This.

@@darnellpistachio2991 Get rid of Christ. There are other religions.

How about combining the best parts of all religions together? I would join this religion.

​@@bastiaan7777777religion without a "God"?

putting the question of good vs evil and purpose aside what kind of society do you have when there's no common moral framework that the society is build upon

God isn't objective good. It's a deontological view of whatever God does is right no matter how horrible it is.

@@pauliusiv6169 the question of defining objective good and objective evil is the single most important question that would define the welfare of a civilization. Lack of objectivity lead to subjectivity. You have no working compass because you define your own directions calling the North your south and the West your east. Reduced to basic instincts to believe in what we can feel and touch mankind degenerates to animalistic instincts of reacting to pain and pleasure ( not just physical one). From there the temptation to call right what is convenient is great and where people disagree in subjective terms of what is right then might makes right. The law of the jungle is where lack of God will lead.

@@vsupreme9386 God is objectively good. We simply are arrogant to pretend we can understand divinity and even more arrogant to reduce God goodness to human one.

Yes, a thousand times, yes!

Hinduism just slaughters thousands of animals. You know nothing about that religion.

It’s getting real

The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. - Moses (Genesis 6:5)

For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. - Jesus (Matthew 24: 37-39)

​@@hlriiiviiiv9570the heart is deceitful above all things.

We can never find God by searching in ourselves. Thats literally what Stalin and Hitler believed.

Good thoughts, but the double slit experiment can in theory be explained without a conscious observer. What collapses the wave function could be the interactive nature of observation, i.e the detector's photons physically influencing the fired particles/waves. That would be the reason we don't see quantum effects at macroscopic scales - objects bigger than an elementary particle simply can't avoid getting hit by all kinds of radiation and have no choise but to stay collapsed and "real".

@@htth3152 Yes. However, the thoughts are not my own but those of the most renown physicists who ever lived. Additionally, the mathematical reality evident in the fabric of the universe along with the required precision of universal physical constants to maintain equilibrium cannot be most reasonably explained by mere probability. Until better evidence prevails the most likely theory is that some external observer has provided the kind of order we measure, as well as the existence of The living cell, Broca's and Wernicke's areas and the human conscience, none of which has ever been adequately explained by natural processes of evolution.

@@htth3152 while many theories have arisen from the double slit, resulting in the copenhagen interpretations, it was shown that two different groups of scientists, believing in different experimental outcomes, produced outcomes that each group believed would result. This shows that strong intention of the macroscopic directly and immediately effects elementary particles. Also any number of experiments have shown how strong intention absolutely produces changes at the macroscopic levels. While changes start with elementary particles, those microscopic effects progressively effect larger states of matter. Fortunately, this delay between intention and physical manifestation, at macroscopic levels occurs, otherwise there would be utter chaos if all matter instantly responded to all intention. The degree of macroscopic change depends on many variables such as number of particles involved, rate of energetic vibration and power density, as well as any externally existing counteracting intentions.

No it doesn't conclude anything like that. The thing is that we don't know the ontology of quantum mechanics.

@@nandhakishor2659 yes it does include many things like that. The ontology you speak of can be derived based on probability, which is established science. Numerous scientific experiments have shown this to be the case. In fact, most of the great scientists, including Einstein were convinced there was some guiding organizing intelligent force that gave design and order to the universe and all creation. If you have more proof than they did, present it.

Hi, check for Marshall V. Summers and his work if you will.

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Sounds like Marx's "man as a social animal" schtick.

I was having a deep chat with a close friend recently in which he state something along the lines of "There are many new young 'prophets' being created from the newfound divisive nature of society/civilization thesedays; they all just have nowhere/nobody to aim their efforts as most of the congregations or similar forms of open-discourse have been eroded.

That sounds and looks like Materialism. Where practically unconscious people worship sensual pleasure as the highest truth.

Materialism is great.

"We don't need God" and then you refer to "sin". Which is it? Without God there is no concept of sin. Vanity is neither good or bad without the concept of God because good and evil doesn't exist outside that concept either. Try to make that statement and really leave God out of it. It's impossible. Welcome to now understanding we do need God because that's what our entire society is founded on. Every law, every moral, every belief.

I am using the word "sin" so the regular people can understand me better. So, you are saying that before the "coming of God" the people or the civilizations on this planet had no notion of morals of what is good or bad, no laws and no beliefs? The very principles of Democracy that every modern country swears by today were founded in a "Godless society" that is unless you count Zeus and crew as God...Give your head a shake.@@debanydoombringer1385

@@debanydoombringer1385 There is no god.

How can one be good, if there isn't a standard of it?

@@protagonist1358 Who said anything about 'no standards'?

@@dixonpinfold2582 with all due respect, how can one be good, if there isn't a standard of good for one to be measured by ? God is the definition of good. So, if I equate good to good, then what is the standard of good? How can you measure it ? Against what ? Other than God, the standard of good.

@@protagonist1358 That's called _beggaring the question._ It amounts to: 'God tells us what's good, because He is good. And I know this because He tells me so - in the Bible, which was written by men under his divine guidance.' (So don't ask me to reason about why I don't agree, because you've excluded real reasoning from the conversation, in favour of circular reasoning.)

@@dixonpinfold2582 calm down, if you call yourself a Believer don't get upset over a simple conversation. If I didn't understand your point or rational, please forgive me. But by your initial comment and we can agree that all words have meaning, then going back to your comment you use the words " God does not equate (definition : to consider one thing to be the same as or equal to another thing) to good". So, Yeshua said in Matthew 19.17 , Mark 10.18 & Luke 18.19 God is Good. So I'm trying to understand what you're saying.

People ignore their conscience for all kinds of reasons, simple as that

There is only one law that needs to be taught and ingrained from childhood. The law of causality. Cause, intention and effect. There is no need for a man-made-up god or organized religion.

@@thomasgriffith2953 though many people do horrible things and many times they pay no price or have any consequence for it. Not even in the life that continues after this one ends. We will continue to hang out and mingle with the ones who are like us. Kindred spirits, good or bad. What gets under my skin the most is that these bad people get away with it forever, always having their free agency. I suppose being selfish is their consequence.

If you need the fear of eternal damnation in order to behave and act as a human around others then, you to begin with are not practicing your religion or even really care about it's principles or essence, it showcases and social and cultural failure as well

Fixed morality ends when you think no-one is looking. It also ends when you elevate yourself as arbiter.

I think pretending to have a relationship with an imaginary friend sounds like a major problem.

It's a bit more sophisticated than that. It's having a relationship with the best version of humanity (as per religion) and trying to pull yourself closer to it. The order and direction this brings is worth the effort to most people.@@grandfathernurgle2840

How many assumptions in that position ?@@grandfathernurgle2840

This false dichotomy needs to stop. It’s secular propaganda. Some the greatest scientists and mathematicians are people of faith. Science and math denote that there is an order to the universe and that truth can be known. Today we’re less scientific we can’t even tell a man from a woman because secular ideology tells us that not offending people is more precious than truth

​@@grandfathernurgle2840then why does it solve so many other problems? Back to reddit with you

Wow, you could not have done a better job of explaining the joy, peace and power of Christianity!.......................thank you.

So are you hearing voices now? As for pride,ego, self-centerdness etc, I'm sure you find plenty of that in the people who go to churches. Most of them are just mindless followers/conformists who don't question what they are told. Also they just go there as part of their social life.

That depends entirely on whether or not you understand the definition of God that all religions share. It's not a person or being. It can be explained in a way even an anti-theist can understand. The belief in God and the belief in a single religion are two very different things.

communist countries like the USSR got rid of the tsar, church but still kept the gulags

@@patc6146 The USSR hasn't existed for decades! There are churches all over Russia now!

Just say Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

nope, if we put humanity over God then we dont have humanity

“Humanity” is made-up word with no real meaning. Its a trick…

The problem is replacing religion with state. The Bolsheviks tried this in Russia and eventually failed. The west is doing the same elevating the state as the ultimate source of well being and care, and is failing just as the ussr did. When God is abandoned from a society human nature which is inherently selfish takes over and destroys it. We live in a fallen world, exist in a fallen state and only the recognition of this allows us to move towards God.

@@Eldaniel300 Excellent reply.

@@eagle_serpent Nope, why do you said that? nietzsche critique against prots or what?

Lots of timeless wisdom in the Gospel of Thomas. A must read, along with the rest of the NHL.

All atheists I’ve encountered are obsessed with the Biblical God and will immediately link one to Christian beliefs at the slightest hint of one having spiritual inclination or exhibiting tolerance of religion in general.

@@michaelricketson1365 When I first found out the Bible and Christianity was a fraud, I was a "militant atheist" too bc I grew up believing in it for a long time. It is kind of a traumatic experience to lose one's faith in one's childhood religion. I prefer Buddhist or Taoist philosophy as a spiritual path over fundamentalist Christian doctrine. I see Jesus as an enlightened teacher, not a god risen from the dead.

@@bgoodfella7413 I’m in agreement regarding Eastern philosophies.

Absoulutly spot on !

Good luck with that, you will need it

So we as individuals are all we need for guidance, and there is no need to look for morality outside of ourselves? Then why should people (or societies) ever need to change their character for moral reasons if we are the true moral standards?

@@obligatoryusername7239 If you want to debate morality then sign up for a philosophy course. The vast majority of people (that aren't sociopaths) have an inherent sense of right and wrong. You're being quite obtuse.

@@kiernan415 And all that says is that morality is a social and biological instinct - and history has shown many times that even people who aren't sociopaths can disregard or twist that instinct for their own (or their group's own) purposes. Morality being an instinct doesn't make it meaningful on its own. It can't be truly meaningful unless it is objective, and it can't be objective if all reality is amoral. "Inherent sense of right and wrong" is just a delusion if right and wrong don't objectively exist.