286BHP 2.0 TDI VW GOLF MK7 GTD - TUNING EXPLAINED! - DARKSIDE DEVELOPMENTS
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5 жыл бұрынIf you follow us on Facebook you may have been wondering what happened to the MK7 GTD we had in for several weeks for a GTD2872VRK Turbo Kit, CP3 Fuel Pump, Ported Head and more...
Well, it is now finished and back in Ireland after making a peak power of 286bhp & 380ft/lbs.
Before the 'is that all..' comments, we know this isn't as much as we were hoping from these modifications but, the restrictions around these engines meant that we could not push this any further.
If you're curious as to why, this video is worth a watch...
Part 1 - • 286BHP 2.0 TDI VW GOLF...
Part 2 - • 286BHP 2.0 TDI VW GOLF...
0-130MPH - • 286BHP 2.0 TDI VW GOLF...
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@nasnas3478 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and the presenter know’s his stuff. I rarely comment on videos but felt I have to applaud exceptional efforts...
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
It was more than just my input in the build, lots of work in the workshop and on the Dyno!
@Miag_vip 3 жыл бұрын
Hes not going to bum you.
@nasnas3478 3 жыл бұрын
@@Miag_vip you sound like an uneducated chav
@nasnas3478 3 жыл бұрын
@@Miag_vip ..
@Miag_vip 3 жыл бұрын
@@nasnas3478 A chav that understands punctuation.
@TheOnlyMrSaver 5 жыл бұрын
Every lesson from darkside developments it's a milestone in technic and a lesson to learn, thanks and greetings from Italy. Ps I'm even more proud now of my BKD
@martinb555 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a joy to listen to someone that knows his trade. Great video keep up the good work.
@jacksmith-nf3hy 4 жыл бұрын
What h
@troop73oo 4 жыл бұрын
KZfaq is petrol head heaven, just love this stuff.
@Nick_Gerr-Pries 4 жыл бұрын
jake Stevens diesel head
@steven907 4 жыл бұрын
Great video a wealth of knowledge great and off the cough Ryan is a computer of knowledge that knows his stuff ,great session 👍👍👌👏
@cossied01 5 жыл бұрын
great to listen to an expert on the product.
@danielmarshall4587 4 жыл бұрын
.... I feel like a dog watching someone putting up a shelf.
@Jahmed5635 5 жыл бұрын
You guys never disappoint
@rjn7650 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid guys. Keep up the good work👍
@TIM612826 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and well explained. Stage 1 remap seems the best bang for buck 220bhp! 10k+ for 286bhp... Crazy
@scitec717 8 ай бұрын
Could have just bought a R or a Gti, madness
@KneeGrowDoingKneeGrowThings 5 ай бұрын
@@scitec717yeah but you getting 50mpg?
@yellowseatfr3954 2 күн бұрын
Actually you can get 245-255 with some cheap mods and good map
@TIM612826 Күн бұрын
@KneeGrowDoingKneeGrowThings I had a gtd briefly it only did 37mpg, it was a dsg and had a stage 1. My gti has better mpg believe it or not and it's around 300bhp, I think it's because it's a manual tho!
@silasdaebler7925 2 жыл бұрын
This engine is also in the A4 B8 late model facelift (190HP CNHA) and due to it being longitudinal mounted with the DPF crap on the left side and not the back of the engine, EGTs are much more managable, probably due to airflow. I am running 220Hp stable with temps up to 850°C
@b.e.s.i3813 3 жыл бұрын
That Power from a EA288 is insane. Very nice😁
@richardmills5450 Жыл бұрын
Very good info and explanation, and I never knew you were down the road..cheers
@andreasanai3542 5 жыл бұрын
This cylinder head design is....crazy. i m speachless
@RioZLander 4 жыл бұрын
LFX v6 in my 5th gen camaro sounds a lot like this. 3.6l, exhaust manifolds build in to the heads direct injection, want performance cams 700-1200$ each for 4 of them hardly a notice able difference from people who have them made in AU, the exhaust dump pipes only 1 each side of the head and there a weird oval/square shape so cant run a full 3 inch, x pipe is your only gain all performance is internally built in to the motor from factory, and supercharger kits that run well in to 8-15 grand un less i want to dump serious cash in to a v6 camaro all i can do is body kits suspension and lights oh and if you dont run a catch can your engine will get carbon build up on the intake valve that grenades the motor after the motor starts to burn a quart of oil every 1000miles. its one of those so much potential but the engineer was told half way that its going to make up mostly rental car sales. im part of the 10% of sales that said ooohhhhh it comes in manual. should of got the TDI jetta SportWagon it was sitting next to some of the stuff i look up worries me a lot about my cars future of just driving for the 3.6 there just so bad.
@toyotaturbo504 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing review, good to see the old school VW engines are still the way to go in terms of power/tuning
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
Newer is not always better!
@MoroccanAnwar Жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments what year is the stop of point of the good ones?
@maxly501 Жыл бұрын
@@MoroccanAnwar i'd Say up to the mk6 golf, it stops there
@MRGAZMOND0 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video,thorough explanation. 286bhp from 2.0tdi on the street should be very rapid,good work .
@bobans 3 жыл бұрын
I know someone with a Passat b6 2.0tdi wagon that has 300hp.
@simonbpalmer6617 4 жыл бұрын
The Brian Cox of cars..✌🏻
@nigelsim18 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, hopefully have my Passat bitdi to you soon, see what you can get out of it.
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see, the Arosa might get one of those block and heads
@sweis12 4 жыл бұрын
I know my 2013 jetta has the explosive fuel pump and I live in the usa. I added a cat 1r 7050 2 micron fuel filter and use a cetane and lubricity enhancer every fillup. I hope my pump lasts! 110k miles so far.
@Feltfx 5 жыл бұрын
Did i hear transient response? very nice! Know your stuff!
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
you did! Thanks
@deonhrupnarain 4 жыл бұрын
brilliant video buddy. I'm from SouthAftica and have a brand new GTd 7.5. was thinking about modding it and after this video , if rather trade it in and wait for the Golf 8 GTi. thanks for the brilliant video tho.
@laughalization 4 жыл бұрын
Deon Rupnarain the supposed spy shots of the 8 are horrendous. Stick with a 7.5 gti
@RoxStar_eth 4 жыл бұрын
@@laughalization one eye on an edition 40 ;)
@laughalization 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Lawson so I saw a standard 8 1.5 evo on uk roads and honestly it’s not that bad. I’m anticipating the Gti and R recon the latter will be promising
@kb8729 3 жыл бұрын
Skill level- unreal !
@TheDJWaves 5 жыл бұрын
this is so informative, shows the limits of diesel tunning on modern 2.0TDI's
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sadsack5990 2 жыл бұрын
Great informative video 👍
@Spike0000 5 жыл бұрын
You can't beat German Metal..no way!!....I've heard of Darkside Developments..and based on several testimonies online and in several top German Metal mags..these guys are amazing at all things VW/Audi/SEAT etc....This is the first place that popped into my mind when thinking of tuning: GTD/CDTI/GT 170/FR etc....DPF removal and EGR sorting is a must before upgrades & tuning....
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
Any links to the mags?
@Spike0000 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanp6138 Hi buddy..yes..Performance-VW/Golf+Mag/VW Driver etc sell them online..old editions and new ones via amazon/eBay etc....
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
@@Spike0000 I will try and find them :)
@Spike0000 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments They used to be sold in news agents/super stores/WH Smith etc. I think the only one that hasn't fully gone out of business is Performance VW Magazine. I've not bought an edition for about 2 yrs..I've got quite a few old ones at home. Thats where I first heard about Darkside Developments. If I ever get the performance diesel car I'm after..you're my first port of call for a DPF/EGR deletion....:)....
@tvanc542 5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate what you have shared here. Makes me much happier I bought a Mk6!
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
Mk7 owners will be in deep regret, the cars themselves are much nicer though! Haha
@tvanc542 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanp6138 Mk6 engine swap into Mk7 chassis
@joonapuro8055 2 жыл бұрын
I would never use so much money changing the parts so I will happily enjoy my mk7 gtd and maybe remap it, but each to their own 😎
@chippydc5 3 жыл бұрын
superb video! will be in touch.
@TsLeng 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting head design for sure.
@AdamNajak1 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for part 2
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
Tonight!
@mickehoe 3 жыл бұрын
Love all the details in your videos. Banks power in the US is the only other another channel for great tuning detail. Can I ask have you guys ever tuned the Jaguar 2.0L ingenium engine. Not a VAG I know but wondering as I’d like to get mine done.
@DarksideDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Not done one I'm afraid!
@ryanherrington9267 2 жыл бұрын
Ur a genuine guy and if u ever employ someone else give me a shout I'd like the opportunity to work with genuine people..much love!!!!!
@GarryMcGovern 5 жыл бұрын
I was so engrossed in this video, I had to go make a second cuppa!!! I was in touch with you lads before about possible mods for my A6 3.0TDi, but looking at the figures, it just wouldn't make sense. Absolutely not doubting the cost justifies the work - but my car is ancient now with over 200k miles on it, I'd be off my head to spend more than the value of the car to get it done!! Haha!! But you lads have definitely got me thinking of FINALLY changing to something newer...... I just wish I knew about you 10 years ago when I bought this! Oooh, how much power could I get from a BiTdi I wonder......... they're down around the £15k mark now....... damn...... I ain't getting any work done today now thinking about this!! Haha!! Top work lads, keep it up!
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
They make a realistic 380hp before EGT is a problem, they drive so nice though.
@GarryMcGovern 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments But I've a funny feeling, you lads have a solution for that too! 😆
@christianmeeks4430 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this it really makes me glad I got a MkVI with a CJAA if I've understood right.
@r3sp3ct3d1 10 ай бұрын
This man is a wizard
@kakaobanana1 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Just interested if 2.0 TDI CRBC could make similar gains like this? Ofc with larger turbo etc
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
Yes the same really
@kb8729 4 жыл бұрын
I have a mapped GTD with a panel filter. It's similar to a Focus ST focus 225bhp - is say the Golf has the edge low down too.. Just a rough idea for anyone interested
@g7g7s19 3 жыл бұрын
Did you have to upgrade your clutch/flywheel?
@ollyscantlebury7626 2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to bring my a5 to you to work your magic 🤯
@willfletcher8436 4 жыл бұрын
Got a mk7 gtd will the DSG gearbox hold up okay after a remap and could you guys remap the car, only in Leeds so not far
@uniden03229 5 жыл бұрын
Wish we had shops like you guys here stateside to help us US boys with our dieselgate crippled diesels. Need ideas for what to do to my 15 once my warranty is up.
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
Please send us an email with the vehicle details and we can price up some options for you - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
@iroquoispliskin6077 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely new exhaust to delete the DPF and EGR and computer tune.
@SpecialKLSX 4 жыл бұрын
Malone Tuning.
@warkrak 4 жыл бұрын
Well done, wish yall had a shope here in America. Quick question as well, if I switch from the cp4 to the cp3 will it have any effect on fuel efficiency? Thanks keep up the good work!
@DarksideDevelopments 4 жыл бұрын
It will, but not by enough that you would notice!
@Articbr06 5 жыл бұрын
Great build, big respect for it. Have the same car and thought about similar mods but now after watching this build i think i’ll stay just with an remap. Dont think its worth that amount of work... but my question is would not be easier to swap the 240hp unit? You can get easy 300hp with just stage 1... and there is still room for next mods. What do you guys think? 😉
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
The CUAA is rare and expensive even used. That's what we would do if we had to have a Mk7 based project. Or just buy a Mk6 with the better engine, 450hp on diesel only in the Arosa and 320hp in track spec in the Citigo, both pretty much smoke free, can't get better than that!
@davidhocevar9214 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Darkside...at the end of the video you mentioned that around 250HP head studs are not the problem...when do they become risky for head lift? ...is GTB2260VK big enough to lift it?
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
its all in the tuning, any turbo can lift a head. This has 12.9 bolts and is fine at 286hp.
@TheRealAnthony_real 5 жыл бұрын
@ryanP If the egt is the limit (I presume you measure this before the turbine wheel ) have you considered bigger nozzles ? I know the cp3 will deliver the pressure however more pressure is more resistance to flow ... Perhaps bigger nozzles and less duration would improve the torque mid range and the flow on higher rpm reduce the boost slightly to wash the cylinders and cool them down ? 16:1 ? I remember when I turned my Audi 2.0 PD the bigger nozzles made huge difference .. took me forever to write the SOI maps and durations but when I got there you could really feel the difference and yes it was a 2262vklr pushing everything ... With this being said I can't believe you can't fix my vklr and I have to do it myself ...
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
Always measure pre turbo. Bigger injectors are on the mod list but not quite required yet while rail pressure is dropping. If we can't get quality parts we can't repair a turbo! I hate the GTBxxxxVKLR hybrids.
@TheRealAnthony_real 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanp6138 just got myself a vklr chra ordered from Germany for 300 and I'll have to modify the lever again add a stop screw etc. etc. However I don't get to have free time for this anymore due to work. I'm just thinking that higher durations will add to bigger EGT's so perhaps bigger nozzles will alow you to reduce durations and inject the same or more mm3 in less time keeping the fuel cooler hence reducing egt ? Not sure though how much of a difference would be ... Sometimes as you said adding a 2260 and little mods for a reliable 250 will be better than pouring loads of money for an extra 50 bhp .. This was the case with all 1.9 2.0 engines if I remember well no matter what platform .
@jamesmccullough3716 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Darkside! I know these engines have variable valve timing on the intake cam. Is this used by yourselves in anyway to gain power? I know as standard it only seems to operate under light loads or at idle when engine is warm presumably for emissions on the CUNA engine as the 150bhp variants don’t appear to have it. Great work with the videos!
@DarksideDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
Its basically used like the swirl flaps so no use at all full throttle!
@daibennett9224 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing information,I liked the mk7 gtd, but now I wouldn’t want one,if you had problems just running it standard you are looking at taking the engine out depending on what the problem is,fRtK that shit
@James-ns6jm 5 жыл бұрын
Not seen any issues with K&N filters and maf sensors. It seems to be an issue when people clean them and re-oil them but put way too much oil on them.
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
We have seen so many inc damage to comp wheels we have lost count so will disagree with you there
@MikeB1972 2 жыл бұрын
As you were explaining the cylinder head design and the operation of the cam shafts I was saying out loud: nooooooooo! lmfao my dream of making one of these common rails make ridiculous levels of power ain't gonna happen lol I would literally have to do some Steve Morris level shit and make my own billet head with traditional intake geometry and cam timing/ phasing (like a K series). At that point might as well go billet block but then the whole engine isn't even the same damn design lol you're making a whole new design at that point. Idk I just have a fascination with making a small, light weight turbo 4 diesel that can make K20/ K24 levels of HP but V8 levels or more of torque... Solves all of the torque issues of a turbo 4 but with the packaging benefits and the hp as well.
@DarksideDevelopments 2 жыл бұрын
There are better CR Engines, search CUAA on our Channel!
@spudtrainspotting9149 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, you are very methodical and that is one of the main reasons I deal with Darkside Developments. I have owned my mk7 for 6 months now, and I love the chassis but not the engine. In my ideal world, I'd like to put a 2.0 BKD or ARL 150 pd motor in it.
@DarksideDevelopments 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we might go as far as putting the older Oval port engine in these for big power
@sirfurnish3828 5 жыл бұрын
Great work guys can I ask what do you think I would need to get my golf mk7 gtd to about 260 Bhp atm it's at stage 1 220bhp and 480nm was looking at a price range ect thanks for you time keep up the work
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Drop us an email and we will send a full list :-) Thanks
@salmanrafiq5708 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments can you push more power out of my stage 1 ECU and gearbox tuned 240 BHP mark 7.5 golf gtd ?
@hermdeer 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks, just bought the Mrs a low mileage 2015 GTD and was wondering what the options were for an upgrade. Probably just leave it alone as it is quite fast as standard. Might buy a cheap pd 130 and send it you up.
@DarksideDevelopments 2 жыл бұрын
Tune and leave alone
@scotten34 4 жыл бұрын
Thank man.. you are a total Pro.. I have your downpipe on my C6 Audi ASB.. From Pro Car Shop.. insane Sound.. Please develop a set of intercoolers for the ASB.. Contact me
@williamsavory5274 5 жыл бұрын
sweet video, informative. Do the same video on a pd engined car if you get the chance!
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah we always do things backwards! PD tuning video coming up in a few weeks!
@boobsthechemist2067 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 Golf GTD with coilover suspension on 19” wheels. I’ve no engine modifications so what kinda cash 💰 would I be looking at for all the extras on this motor?
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
Drop us an email - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk and we can send across some details
@uglyfiveonegunship3812 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic vid! Engine codes in this group at a nightmare, im after an octavia vrs from what i gather watching this the 2011ish CR170 is a better engine than the 184hp newer cars? Not after mad power but it be nice to have the scope, the rod bearings scare me a little after watching this too!
@DarksideDevelopments Жыл бұрын
In short, yes. The oval port CR170's have a bit more scope than the 184's. Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk for more info on them 🙂
@wakaflockaproject Жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments what about the the 150bhp? Are they better than the 184 and more tunable
@DarksideDevelopments Жыл бұрын
same crap in those!
@wakaflockaproject Жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments I've got the slightly older cr engines cbab to be exact. Are the newer ones more reliable and complicated to fix
@ado2271 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, is it bit hard to drive i mean controlling the car while accelerating it, due to huge amount of HP and especially torque, because of fwd. I like it and good job here mate.
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
It's not bad at all, everything is nice and tight so it's very sedate. A LSD would help.
@capt.future8354 5 жыл бұрын
Great, you are the best for the TDI's, what the max Turbo pressure for 280HP ?
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
2.4bar
@MasterBlasterSandblasting 2 жыл бұрын
Hello can you please advise on that could be the reason for high oil consumtion on the same engine but in leon? I drive it up to 4k revs sometimes but the consumtion can be as much as 1l per 600miles. This seems a lot. I had a shorter top ups of oil too.
@DarksideDevelopments 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a worn engine, we suggest a compression test.
@mnl493x 5 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for road test video👍
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
Tonight!
@mnl493x 5 жыл бұрын
Darkside Developments in your vid can you include some footage of when then the new turbo starts too spool from rpm in real time, owners no stock is from 1500/1800 rpm like you said, and possibly a launch too 60 mph time , how much more it smokes ,if any,hard pulls through gears so we can see speed ect as fast as you would like too go, as the car is probably going back to Ireland now this video very good , as Audi one ,but the on road vid needs a good coverage of performance,ect ,you probably already no this, for owners of this engine many thanks, keep up good work 👍
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
@@mnl493x Keep an eye out for part 2 tonight!
@Swagatron-qx3hn 3 жыл бұрын
What would be the total cost of parts and labour for safely running the 250bhp figure with upgrading to the 2260 turbo from stock? Manual gearbox, not DSG. Also my car is a Seat Leon FR, same 184 TDi engine, don’t know if that makes any difference or not? 👌🏼
@DarksideDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
Email for a full quote but about 5k
@stoeptegel50 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice comparison with the different dyno sheets. How much HP gain do you normally expect with a remapped car with a stock turbo and a DPF delete, over a stock remapped car with the DPF intact?
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
The gains are very similar We did some back to back testing on DPFs which can be seen on our blog here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/Blog/dpf-testing-present-cleaned-and-removed/
@stoeptegel50 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments Thanks for the link to your detailed blog post about power figures and EGT's with a DPF equipped. I didn't expect the EGT's to be just 5 degrees lower (expected much lower EGT's without DPF). I had a bit of turbo damage (the VTG was stuck in a fixed position) on a (tuned) car I previously owned, mostly because of a blocked DPF. I am now getting a downpipe (without a cat and DPF) for my new car in the hope I don't damage the turbo again, but with this small difference in EGT's it doesn't matter that much?
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
@@stoeptegel50 bear in mind that was a 1.6 engine at a fairly low output, as the DPF blocks the problem will get worse and as power increases it will.
@farleyjack2510 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, with the Mk6 2.0 tdi is there a big difference in potential between the stock 138bhp and the stock 168bhp. Thinking of buying one as a everyday car and will get you guys to remap so wanted to understand the main differences and limitations. Any help gratefully received.
@DarksideDevelopments 2 жыл бұрын
The turbo is the main difference, swap that and you can realise similar power when tuned,
@jonathanpower5901 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as I'm looking at a gtd, would you recommend the Mk5 over this for ease of modding?
@DarksideDevelopments 4 жыл бұрын
It depends what you are after, these are good up to 250bhp and a nicer car but if you want more than this the MK5/MK6 is the better platform.
@jonathanpower5901 4 жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments thank you for the reply.
@shmackersfield2020 5 жыл бұрын
Hi darkside, what's the most power and torque you've seen out of the 150ps diesel engine on a stage 1? Cheers
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
Safely you should expect to see around 190bhp & 320ft/lbs (on our dyno anyway)
@TheManLab7 4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the Mk7.5 is exactly the same and is it just worth getting a Stage 1 tune, as if I want more power I'll have to spend a fair amount?
@DarksideDevelopments 4 жыл бұрын
Yes same engine!
@bullseye2252 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the standard MK7 Golf 2.0TDI 140hp, most tunes I see offer up to 185hp. Is the 250hp figure achievable the same way as the GTD? Bigger turbo and new tune? Or does the 140hp tdi lack something that the GTD engine has?
@DarksideDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
150hp? Needs injectors too!
@olivercox5824 3 жыл бұрын
Scrap the new engines 1.9 Tdi PD130 swap😜
@TVD1984 5 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the EGR loop was a low pressure one. The self study on the EA288 engine says this. So exhaust gases after the DPF are taken so that the intake and EGR valve doesn't have that soot build up. What did the head/intake look like at 100,000 Kms? Thanks.
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it was corrected in the video. Older engines are dirtier than this but the IC needed ultrasonic cleaning
@TVD1984 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanp6138 Thanks Ryan, I thought I was going mad. Is there any feedback on why the latest revision was an emission corrected map? When I went to the VW website where you can put your reg number in to see if your car is part of the emissions recall, it said mine isn't affected, and mine's a 2014 Mk7 GTD. Pretty sure mine is a CUNA engine? Could be wrong. Strange but anything can happen I suppose with VW! I want to thank you for being so open in this video. Many tuners are very secretive about what they do and it's very refreshing to see a no nonsense approach and this will surely benefit a lot of your customers and those who drive these cars and are thinking about going down this path of modifying! Thanks!
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
@@TVD1984 it was the older Ea189 engine with the emissions problem that likely would never be a true 'pass'. We like to be 100% truthful to all customers and only sell products with a real use case that have the desired gains. We enjoyed this project and making the videos, we will do more in the future too! We have so many projects and builds it's hard to prioritise!
@mnl493x 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video very informative as always, I have the seat Leon fr tdi dsg 2016 same engine with 20,000 miles ,going on a 250bhp 2260 turbo bolt on ,map and metering valve ,what would the price be and time you would need car for thanks?after tune bhp and nm figures please. Do u recommend a dsg remap for clamping force ect aswell or is stock fine thanks ,great job guys
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
DSG tune is a must IMO on this engine. Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk. Thanks
@Tomekpsp 5 жыл бұрын
Watching the video one question springs to mind, you've said that the earlier engines are more capable, are you referring to mk6 platform 170bhp common rail engines? Or are there substantial differences in the mk7 platform depending on year of manufacture?
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Mk6 to Mk7, totally different!
@Tomekpsp 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanp6138 thank you, that explains a lot, what is the labour cost for fitting of a dpf delete dp at darkside?
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tomekpsp Drop us an email - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk Thanks
@honestreview1043 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 gtd. Would you recommend a Hydroflow clean?
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, never seen any positive results
@inline601 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how hot standard Gtd turbo can run? On full throttle at high speed before it melts
@DarksideDevelopments 2 жыл бұрын
1000c sustained should do it
@MrSuperTolli 3 жыл бұрын
I've got some Question. The upgrade Chargepipe for the MK7 GTD, in my opinion you need a custom remap for this, right? My CUPA has stage 1. The oilcooler from you shop for MK7 GTD, is there a thermostat included? I'm form Germany, when i want to buy some parts from your shop, how i can pay euro?
@darksidedevelopments7200 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, please email us sales@darksidedeveloments.co.uk
@thatbigblock7007 2 жыл бұрын
So after the engine build, did you guys use oem pistons, rods and crank?
@DarksideDevelopments 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@kesmil3402 4 жыл бұрын
hi,what about the performance cluch kit for vw mk7 gtd please? what cluch kit recomended for my gtd 500 torgue please? thank you , best regrds
@DarksideDevelopments 4 жыл бұрын
This clutch was fitted www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/sachs-2-0-tdi-6-speed-02q-dual-mass-flywheel-with-sachs-sre-performance-clutch-kit-for-ppd170-cr170.html Thanks
@AlphaSierra101 5 жыл бұрын
What year cars did the "earlier engine" you keep referring to come in?
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
it varies from 2010 in Seat's from 2012 in VW/Audi to around 2013/14. If in doubt email us the reg and we will check for you!
@mrazza6182 5 жыл бұрын
Where you lot based? I really wanna work in a garage/mod shop, I love cars and I’m working for my Engineering Degree 😅
@kylebudd5479 4 жыл бұрын
David The King that’s not possible during a degree you legally have to work for an established place in that field, learning from these guys would be a dream for most
@smgeraldo 3 жыл бұрын
So with no DPF and Cat out how do you get it through MOT? Really would like this conversion, got one of these, but the MOT issue is very concerning, please would you comment? Many thanks.
@DarksideDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
You would have to ask your MOT man!
@marcochavanne 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the DPF removal for the newer DPF systems. Trying to install one of your kits in my 2015 Passat. I’m stuck and haven’t been able to find any videos. The write ups don’t give too much instruction on the last step of removing the DPF once it’s loose.
@DarksideDevelopments 4 жыл бұрын
Drop the subframe!
@nicholassilvestri1804 Жыл бұрын
Will the stock oval port type heads support this type of hp without porting/valves? If you add the turbo/CP3?
@DarksideDevelopments Жыл бұрын
Around 270s usually!
@nicholassilvestri1804 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! One more question mate, do i need a different type of manifold for a gtd2260 (vband type) on a 2.0 CJAA, or will it bolt right up?
@L1ttlepsych0 2 жыл бұрын
Have you cleaned anything? In particular the compressor inlet seems way too clean for over 100k miles.
@DarksideDevelopments 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing cleaned
@richardwigley 3 жыл бұрын
Here's how NOT to design an engine. Great video
@PetSKi67 3 жыл бұрын
170, 177 hp n the old emission thief software! I’ve got an Audi CBBB 170 hp engine, does it have the camshaft module or something, that could be modified reasonably?
@DarksideDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
Those don't have a camshaft module so we have race camshafts for that engine - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/performance-race-camshaft-kit-for-1-6-2-0-tdi-common-rail-engine.html
@realmusicreallife 5 жыл бұрын
Hello dark side. I have a question. What’s your opinion on diesel fuel? Like should I avoid supermarket fuel and just use like shell diesel or should I use vpower diesel? I know the v power diesel had cleaning agents in but is it worth using it? Basically what do you recommend using and what do you use in your diesel car?
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
We just use whatever is available! no power is gained even with 'racing' fuels
@iainbeith01 5 жыл бұрын
I felt my diesel car more sluggish using ASDA fuel compared to Shell. I must be imagining it lol.
@realmusicreallife 5 жыл бұрын
Darkside Developments yeh sure But im sure when I use v power diesel it seems smoother not as lumpy. I like the idea of the cleaning additives aswell and also I’ve herd lots of stories of water in Tesco diesel recently and apparently supermarket diesel is dirty stuff aswell ! Just thought I ask you as you seem very knowledgeable
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
@@realmusicreallife Placebo!
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
Water in diesel has happened in most stations according to the customers cars we fix!
@TheMartinH13 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone ever see heat becoming an issue on these and burning out the turbo after ECU flash with dpf still intact?
@DarksideDevelopments 2 жыл бұрын
Only with terrible tuning, there's a lot of "tuners" don't know how to tune these and just disable EGT protection, which results in hardware failures.
@MrSuperTolli 2 жыл бұрын
I knew from 2 Cars without EGT Limit (both 184 stage 1) Vmax 255 (EGT 700°C @3000-4500😌) but... Stil runnin and not melted DPF. My 184 is now Stage 2 @230Hp and runs also in EGT Limit @870°C. For sure Limit of the Head.
@vIMONST3RIv 2 жыл бұрын
Not even mapping mine I don’t think, just doing gti style exhaust and new wheels, if anyone wants power then sell up and get a gti or R I reckon
@DarksideDevelopments 2 жыл бұрын
A map is worth it!
@Escape.Idiocracy Жыл бұрын
With EGT’s being the limiting factor- have you gone down the road of water injection? I know that water injection will lower EGT’s on larger diesels- I don’t see why it wouldn’t for this application, though I’m not sure how much it would drop the temps and if it would have a decent ROI.
@DarksideDevelopments Жыл бұрын
Yes this car actually came back in at a later date for water injection. It helped EGT's and saw a little more power from it.
@Escape.Idiocracy Жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments Any chance you can share a video on the benefits?? 😎👍🏼
@DarksideDevelopments Жыл бұрын
It's something we will be looking at doing in the future
@BenLZ 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to have this work done but think it would be very expensive for a map and dpf remove to a mk7 gtd great work guys love watching the videos you make geniuses in the diesel industry
@DarksideDevelopments 4 жыл бұрын
For this setup the software is £1000 + VAT for a completely custom tune. We might spend 2 - 3 days getting it perfect in all driving situations. Thanks
@BenLZ 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks sound great
@chillrasta12 5 жыл бұрын
You mentioned comparisons to the "old engine" several times. By old engine do you mean the EA189? Is the EA189 better than the EA288 from a performance standpoint?
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
Yes the EA189 is the one to have for many reasons, the Arosa has that engine and will remain to have until something better is produced!
@nunovicente34 5 жыл бұрын
Darkside Developments you need a 1.9 asz 😉🤪
@recon_ron7746 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments which golf has the EA189?
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
@@recon_ron7746 Mk6 Thanks
@recon_ron7746 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments cool, glad I picked up a mk6 😁, too bad I live in the states and diesel modifying is no where near as big as it is in Europe...
@bully5aw 5 жыл бұрын
How does removing all this stuff work out with the current MOT regulations? Do you have to put it back on for the MOT? is it done at the drivers own risk of a police stop?
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
This is all down to the customer, we advise at all this is not road legal in the UK and it is the responsibility of customer to ensure they comply with rules and laws relating to their home country
@garytivnan5937 4 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same. Dpfs are a killer! Definitely fail NCT in Ireland.
@natel5370 3 жыл бұрын
What clutch do you recommend and flywheel for a track driven GTD?
@DarksideDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
Email us!
@massimogiuliani6637 3 жыл бұрын
Hello and congratulations for the car .. I have been the owner of this model since Jan. 2014, and I thought of improving the set-up by adapting \ mounting the AIR SHOCKS. Could you tell me which types can be mounted? I am willing to accept all your advice, Hello. I only speak ITALIAN, unfortunately!
@DarksideDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
email us and we can help :)
@massimogiuliani6637 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments What is the e-mail address?
@DarksideDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
@@massimogiuliani6637 sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
@massimogiuliani6637 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopmentsSorry. I wrote! The answer was: "We do not deal with the subject of AIR SUSPENTIONS"....
@diogomartins9749 3 жыл бұрын
The turbo and the exhaust manifold is compatible to golf 7 1.6tdi? And the injectors?
@DarksideDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
Turbo and manifold will be, Injectors depend on Management, these are Bosch
@SniperGHOST03 5 жыл бұрын
Can installing low pressure egr valve delete from you change sound of the exhaust on this engine? Dpf already removed, egr only in software.
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
I doubt it, if you have hollow DPF changing to straight pipe makes a difference
@SniperGHOST03 5 жыл бұрын
@@DarksideDevelopments I asked it because, if I run on vcds adaptation of low pressure egr valve car changes sound during that to much louder even on idle. But returns to old sound when it finishes. Do you know something more about it or how to do to sound like that permanently? Maybe from installing low pressure egr valve delete?
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
@@SniperGHOST03 This could potentially be 2 things. This adaptation may be opening the turbo vanes during the process which would make the car louder in tick over. You can check if the actuator moved when you do this. The other may just be the EGR opening making it sound louder.
@Account1746 4 жыл бұрын
100k miles the engines just warming up
@Furrierity 4 жыл бұрын
honestly german engines are a different gravy all together 100k is like a brisk warm up jog for it
@AnilKumar-yn6ns 5 жыл бұрын
Suprised to see bearing ware at that millege is this due to extended oil changes
@ryanp6138 5 жыл бұрын
We think that and lower quality bearings
@MrRCichy 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryanp6138 its all years EA288 have this bearing problem?
@natel5370 3 жыл бұрын
Ryan are these cars worth doing a DPF delete on a stage one custom tune ?
@DarksideDevelopments 3 жыл бұрын
If its all working OK just leave it :)
@richardbailey2907 Жыл бұрын
Hi there - had my gtd mk6 mapped recent - 2 questions - mine is from Oct 2012 so will My ecu be mk7 ? Also I have been recommended to remove my dpf altogether ? What you reckon ? Not after smoke or anything just many short journeys like yourself
@DarksideDevelopments Жыл бұрын
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with your vin and we can check what ecu is on and offer any other advice needed
@Psgamer-vu2hp 5 жыл бұрын
Will it make a problem when you tune it up. Transmission problems?
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
The clutch was upgraded to handle the power.
@dylanquirk17 Жыл бұрын
Whats up with that fuel filter set up? I'm looking for something similar for my MK6 TDI. From North America if that matters.
@DarksideDevelopments Жыл бұрын
This is just the standard set up, we're working on an upgrade though
@DazzzTube 5 жыл бұрын
How much did it cost to do this? I have a mk6 GTD and I only live an hour and a half away, would be nice to give it a bit more kick.
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
Please send us an email with your reg and power goal and we can price up some options for you - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
@davespooney8472 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 Passat cr170, has this got the bigger standard turbo than earlier cars and oval ports in the head? Thanks 🙏
@DarksideDevelopments 5 жыл бұрын
2011 is most likely a round port CBBB Engine
@davespooney8472 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
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