“Let’s end the debate” proceeds to do the exact opposite

malgus is badass, but if we’re talking novels/comics vader he’s destroying malgus, this man tore open a rift in reality with his bare hands, he lifted the veil between the living and the dead, he survived an orbital bombardment, he’s pretty much done everything and people always seem to think vader is extremely vulnerable to force lightning, that’s not entirely true first off he’s been struck with it multiple times, but he can still fight on despite his suit being damaged for a decent while, palpatine’s lightning affects him so much bc he’s been stated and proven to have the most potent force lightning of all the sith (aside from the brother, but he’s not exactly a sith) second, it’s actually fairly easy to block force lightning, all you need is a lightsaber tbh, not to mention vader mastered the same technique yoda used to redirect force lightning, so really he’s not as vulnerable as people think he is

Malgus honestly would have been the perfect master for Vader. I truly think he would have pushed to help Vader reach his full potential, and the two would truly remake the galaxy. Unlike Sidious who only saw Vader as a tool. I also think that Vader wouldn't be inclined to betray Malgus, as the two would have an understanding of each other due to their similar situations and mindsets.

I think Malgus isn't pure evil, but he have better mindset.

I will always stay with my Lord Magus in the name of the Sith Empire.

"The test isn't difficult." The test:

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i think you are the first guy that explains why who whins. gigachad here

If Vader can find a way to block/deflect/defeat Malgus' Lightning, 55/45, Vader. If not, Vader is fucked.

I agree, they are very even, but ultimately, Sith are truly free in the Old Republic while the restraint and secretive nature of the Imperial Sith were a weakness which might give Malgus an advantage. Edit: You guys needa take a chill pill in the comments section. I never even argued that Malgus would definitively win. All I argued was that Vader’s identity as a Sith Lord was hidden, not that he himself was hidden. Still prolly a 50/50 split for me tho

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This is literally the closest a battle can be in star wars

Battle IQ would go to malgus, the dude was arguably the best battlefield commander of the whole war and led some of the empires best campaigns to victory, and saw more combat and battles than anakin and vader combined, I mean, the dude was a commander in a 30 year war, anakin was a general for 3

Great versus. Balanced and fair. The choice of music is also perfect.

Sidious nerfed the hell out of Vader so much that he's extremely vulnerable to force lightning, that and he doesn't have a proper functioning respiratory system, Malgus could wear him down with his aggression, speed, and force techniques.

This fight would probably be like the mustafar battle where ur not sure who would really win and it’s 50/50

So malgus not only lived longer, he fought more fearsome and lengthy wars against a militarized jedi order, so he would definitely win in experience

Malgus isn't limited like Vader. I'm not just talking about his cybernetics, I'm talking about his emotional limitations. In the early days of the sith empire, Malgus was limited by his emotional connection to his love interest. He knew that his lover was his weakness and that if he was to truly become a Sith and a conqueror he would need to "Break his chains" or his limitations. This would mean killing his lover. After killing the woman he loved he gained a level of focus that Vader could never conjure. Vader was always attached to Padme, he could never separate his old life from his current one. In some parts of Vaders mind, Anakin lived on. This is why Malgus will almost always beat Vader, he has complete control over the darkside. Whereas Vader is being controlled by the Darkside.

I think if they fought, they would both definitely die, but Malgus has better augments and such. Though, since this Legends Vader has gone up against several high ranking Jedi Masters. Though, I think Malgus going toe to toe with Shan is also remarkable. Though, Malgus is an amazing strategist due to the fact he switches sides several times. Malgus was also able to strategize with the Mandalorians to destroy Coruscant and wipe out a good chunk of the many Jedi back then.

I’m just happy that someone is using a different song for this edit

They have the same stories, they're like lost brothers

Malgus wins mid-high diff Speed: His speed was such that a normal human found it difficult to watch his movement in his duels. Dueling: Defeated many strong jedi and sith using only his lightsaber. (Example: He defeated the jedi master Ven Zallow in a short but ferocious duel. Zallow was often regarded as one of the greatest duelist's in the entire jedi order of his time. Feats: Sacked the jedi temple with brute strength alone. Jedi grand master Satele Shan stated that Malgus was the most dangerous embodiment of the dark side she had ever experienced. Malgus was one of darth Sidious greatest idols. Force: Dark rage is a power that allows a force user to increase his strength, speed, recilliency and resolve. Force protection is a passive (and sometimes active) enhancement of a force sensetive's durability to varying superhuman degrees. Force speed is a passive (and sometimes active enhancement of a force sensetive's speed to varying superhuman degrees

Let's fix this Darth Vader (Legends) Vs Darth Malgus (Legends) Strength-Vader (his strength is stated to be over Low-Outversal, can lift around 20 tons without the Force, with the Force he once threw a literal Moon) Speed-Malgus (Altough Vader moves at light speed with Force speed he is still somewhat hindered) Durability-Vader (his durability is stated to be over Low-Outversal fell from a nearby Moon to planet Jekara and survived with no injuries, survived not being desintegrated also unharmed, survived a blast equivalent to Death Star Superlaser that can destroy multiple planets) Agility-Malgus Stamina-both Endurance-both Iq-Vader Intelligence-Vader Knowledge-Vader Force Knowledge-Vader Sith Alchemy-Vader (Sidious tought him) Training-Vader Biq-Vader (Clone General and Sith Lord) Experiance-Malgus Battle Exp-both Skill-Vader (proficient in killing Jedi, fought 8 of them at once) Weapon-Vader (his Lightsaber burns 6 times hotter than the Sun while the normal one burns 4 times hotter, also Vader modified his Lightsaber so he can adjust the length of the blade) Defense-Malgus (From what I have seen Malgus tends to use defense a bit more than Vader) Offense-Vader (He was the best Master of Form V to ever exist) Dueling-Vader (Mastered all forms, created his own, it was still a Form V but with some upgrades from every other form) Lightsaber form-Vader (same explaination) Combat-both (combine Force Power with their dueling skills) Combat speed-Malgus Reaction speed-Vader (380 mach, dodged a blaster from an X-Wing) Force Power-Darth Vader (The Chosen One, has the most midichlorians, 27000 per cell) Force abilities-Both (they both have so many abilities, altough Malgus has Maelstrom and Force Lightening, Vader has Focused Rage and Force Schockwave, basically same level) AP-Vader DC-Vader (more power equals more destructive capability, especially with those abilities) Hax-Vader (Obviously) Versatility-Malgus Feats-Vader (Killed an Ender, destroyed the Jedi Order, killed billions of living beings including hundreds of Jedi, became the most feared and the most powerful Sith Lord to exist ever, surpassed Sidious) Darth Vader wins mid difficulty, Darth Vader has the advantages over Revan, Nihilus, Sidious, Vitiate and other Sith who can beat Malgus, it was even said that Vader scales higher than any other Sith Darth Vader>Darth Sidious>Darth Vitiate>Darth Revan>Darth Nihilus (almost useless without Force drain)...

Malgus also survived being crushed by a multi hundred pound rock

I strongly believe Vader will eventually take the upper hand and win. With High difficulty though.

Malgus has lightning and Vader's suit is vulnerable to it, a few precise attacks with it will leave Vader's suit severely damaged giving Malgus huge advantage.

A live action battle would be crazy Imo Malgus wins

I think the one thing that tips this battle into malgus' favour is the fact he can use force lightning, and seems to be pretty strong with it, which is a big downside for vader as his suit is veerrrrryyy vulnerable to force lightning

Considering that Malgus has a more aggressive fighting style and even outmatched more experienced jedi and Vader relies mostly on using his surroundings and it doesn't take a lot to disable his suit, I'd give it to Malgus.

Yes I strongly agree with you if 2 characters whose levels are absolutely the same finding winner depends on location and battle ground

Dude great edit!

I really like that you put a lot of effort on every video!Amazing dude,keep going!

They're also sort of equally broken. We all know about the tragedy of Darth Vader, but Darth Malgus actually was a lot more level-headed when his wife was around. After realising that she was an anchor, in a fit of rage Malgus killed her to make sure he never would turn to the light side, and he regretted that decision for the rest of his life

Fax it is literally when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object they both were the ones to finally get revenge on the Jedi in their eras and both sustained critical injuries to there fiscal bodies. Vader vs Malgus would truly be the battle of the century…

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If he put AP or Reaction Speed as a point then the debate would have ended, but for now the debate only relies on the battle conditions.

Darth Vader is limited by his suit and his lack of limbs, which causes him to lose, it is a theory that his force abilities are diminished because of his condition from obi wan, the lava and the count. Also his suit makes him vulnerable to force lightning

An extremely good edit

Vader legends is one of the strongest force users ever, I don’t like this style of “1v1” because it doesn’t always apply or make sense In short I think Vader would win but it would be very close

"We are mere children with toys compared to the ancient masters." Can't be comparing such different eras, both were strong in their own league but malgus is on a higher level than any of the canon sith.

Malgus killed several masters, the battlemaster of the jedi, and killed alot during his time. The only master Vader killed was the instructor/battlemaster and an shaak ti.

Malgus wins because he has force lightning. Also Palpatine respected Malgus so much he wanted Vader to basically become Malgus so he gifted him Malgus’ journal

Malgus was very tall and heavily built, and only had a breathing valve of prosthetics, Vader was missing 50 percent of his body, and his strength was clearly less. And Malgus has more experience, he attacked the Jedi temple in 1 day in a frontal attack

To be fair malgus was based of darth vader and thats very clear on the design, its only natural for them to be equals

Very surprised that Vader didn't get a clear victory. That's refreshing. Malgus is my favorite Sith, hands down. 2 things Vader, most likely, has the advantage is his dueling and force power. Every other category, in my opinion, they are either equal or Malgus takes it.

I still think Darth Malgus would win since he’s pretty much Darth Vader but more powerful.

Vader basically lost 50% of his power on mustifar. Meanwhile Melgus is a beast that keeps coming back.

I think Vader's monstrous force power and cold calculating mind give him the edge. Its close tho and Malgus was one of the most powerful sith of the old Republic era.

I'd give Malgus the knowledge point. He's extremely knowledgeable of Sith and Jedi history and actively seeks to learn about it to gain power.

finally someone that doesn't overrate Vader

im surprised that you use shotcut also this is fax asf

Can you do Darth vader versus Darth Bane

Darth Vader in Legends could be a great threat for Master Yoda. The same thing with Darth Malgus. Well, if Darth Vader gets hatred enough, then he would destroy Darth Malgus. If Darth Malgus use his "mini Force storms" (I don't remember the name of the Force abillity), then Malgus could win with extreme diff or can go other way. If you are using Oneness Malgus, then Vader can't do nothing.

Malgus looks sick in the intro

Vaders power stays the same after his battle on mustafar. Malgus only grows in power.

I would say darth vader wins because his and palpatine’s knowledge transcends sith knowledge so they know all about the Darkside and more putting them at a higher power level.

Both greatest sith of their era❤❤❤

Darth Vader 👇

Malgus is the coolest SW character ever. He’s the only force user that does not feel goofy or nerdy. He’s more like a space Ronin.

Man this is one nice vid

W edit I think malgus and Vader are equal but what if Vader fought nihilus or Reven? Even though reven is vader's ancestor

one thing i would point out though is malgus mainly fought and killed warrior jedi where vader came from a era most jedi were scholars and had become very complacent due to 1000 years of peace so even the warrior jedi tended to have lessened in quality. but overall i do think though overall its probably one of the most accurate and fair judging of the two i've come if not taking the differences between their eras into consideration.

i love how almost every single battle for vader and someone else defense does not go to vader, its halarious

I mean they both had same thing in common... Had a romance with someone but were killed later... Had face mask... Likely same armor... And most importantly... They both bald...

fax people rlly underrated malgus and/or overestimate vader, malgus may win because of force lightning it counters vader pretty well

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I was expecting to come into this and see your average “whichever character I like better wins” like almost every other video like this but was pleasantly surprised, some of the points are debatable and they recognized that and had really good points where the decision would be close. Great video 👍

In my opinion the two coldest moments for Vader (non comics) are in rebels and fallen order, in rebels it’s when he lifts the walker he got “crushed by” up and in fallen order him walking in

I would say Malgus takes feats given he sacked the Jedi Temple with brute force and not by major tricks like Vader

The thing is Vader fights with the mindset of a dead man, you can’t kill something that is already dead inside.

“Let’s end this debate.” Proceeds to not end the debate by making them tie🤦‍♂️

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I love Darth Vader, he is great, i grew up watching him, however with Darth Malgus, he just seems so powerful, so focused and so brutal, makes me think how can someone match his power

Malgus never ruled the Sith Empire lol. He tried to take it over and got beat BADLY

I doubt Vader could beat Malgus due to his vulnerability to lightning, but besides that they are very similar and equally bad ass

What song is this? It sounds amazing!

If Darth Malgus knows force lightning it’s over

Very good video well done

That’s a fight I would love to see

,,lets end this debate“

That would be a crazy fight to see

“You, were deceived. And now, your republic shall fall.”

Malgus fully committed himself to the dark side he should have that point while Vader couldn’t hence at the end of the 6th movie

I say malgus is better because darth vader was influenced by malgus, thus meaning that he is more powerful

Malgus Killed more Jedi Than Vader did.1,000 years before Anikan was even Born.😊

Also for knowledge you gave darth the point despite ancient sith knowing a lot more than galactic era sith

Bro didn’t end the debate

once vader drops the lightsaber, hes done for. ppl dont know how aggressive malgus is. in combat, he uses kicks, elbows, tackles, grapples unlike vader.

Combat isn’t a lightsaber form, that’s weapon mastery

Vader slams Malgus Keep in mind Vader was relative to Palpatine atp especially in ROTJ who was stated to be the strongest sith

When the Unstoppable Force meets the immovable object that's the fight you have right here

Bro hit the Star Wars edit with Andrew Tate anthem (I think it’s his anthem) edit: oh this is the same lady that sang Andrew gates anthem

I think Malgus would win in combat, while Vader practiced alot and his mastery is impressive, Malgus ultimately lived in an era where it was constantly the strongest leads, so he has probably had a fair share of to the death battles throughout his life and such, Vader has experience in the jedi ways and fighting a few strong contenders but not too many astounding duelists that were full on from the get go, Dooku was underestimating but also going easy at first, and Windu was taken out by surprise. I feel Malgus would win due to that experience and I know some claim Vader has beaten Obiwan, but he was slower but also didn't seem like his goal was winning

Malgus would ruin Vader. It's not even close unless you're a Disney fan.

Malgus: uses force lightning Vader:💀

I'll say Malgus will beat Vader but will struggle to do , that's my view without any biases I'm Vader fan, but still objectively I think Malgus is far better than Vader .

Let me end this debate, the only person who can possibly stand up to vader is obiwan and that's just because vader loses control facing obiwan, he just loses it, technically if he focuses and doesn't lose control obiwan doesn't have a chance, vader cannot be beaten.

Vader Wins: Mid-High Diff

Now put canon Vader in and watch him absolute stomp the entire old republic era

Malgus is powerful, but Vader had crazier feats. Ive beaten Malgus too many times to consider him a proper threat in the game