Exactly and the amount of comments I’ve read blaming Noor for going out or not being religious enough is crazy…it’s all irrelevant but they keep bringing it up omg

​@@StarAreebaGoRandom What the hell is wrong with people, I mean how disgusting and cruel do you have to be to blame a dead woman for something that she had no control over. Why not blame the real culprit, Zahir he's the one who murdered Noor

Women in Pakistan

@@Johnne009*Women all over the world, the West very much included. Do a bit of digging, and you'll find many cases of women and girls getting assaulted and/or murdered for turning down a guy.

​@@Johnne009no, its a world wide look it up korea african the US even latin America china everywhere

@asmagul8135 As awful as this may sounds, I wish women around the world woke up to the truth & stop birthing boys. This has been happening to us women around the globe, since forever. We need to start choosing better. Will never have peace with too many boys being born, while they are just as active un-aliving women at great rates & starting wars at the drop of a hat everywhere, always plunging everyone back into the dark ages with every war they start, which is always most devastating to women. We can't control them. Even mother earth is now acting bipolar because of the stress, these males & their greed are putting her through. The numbers & the history just shows who they are. If we keep pushing them out, nothing will change, not in 20-40-80-or 120 years. Nothing! Will never have peace either.

Yet so many Americans and other Westerners think these things are an exaggeration and not happening. 🙄

Or just deal with them,as messed up as they are..😒 many times not even by choice!! 😔

Damn girl that is a universal issue but well said!!

"Boys will be boys" = boys will be awful unless corrected :

It honestly scared me

I didnt understand that part... like did his brother die or?

@@moistorphanhe was both the good and the bad son. They cherished the successful side and hid his mental illness

@@Plutonium.2 ohh thank you!!

@@moistorphan no problem it took me a second, too, lol

may ur country get better

han, and usually the upper class families casually pay the media and the case is never brought to light. It is so infuriating and sickening

I still think of your brave, intelligent and beautiful president Benazir Bhutto and the terrible fate that befell her. The hatred against women needs to end. But how? _May Allah bless you with success, health, happiness, patience and strength._ Greetings from Sweden

​​@@DEATH-THE-GOAT ^_^ let me answer to your question "The hatred against women needs to end. But how ?" By rejecting that fake religion (islam) which allows to beat women (Surah 4:34) and stop listening to the teachings of the false prophet momo who said : Women are devils Sunan Abi Dawud 2151 Jabir said “The Prophet (ﷺ) saw a woman so he entered upon Zainab daughter of Jahsh and had intercourse with her. He (ﷺ) then came out and said to his companions and said to them “A woman advances in the form of a devil. When one of you finds that he should go to his wife (and have intercourse with her) for that will repel what he is feeling. حَدَّثَنَا مُسْلِمُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، حَدَّثَنَا هِشَامٌ، عَنْ أَبِي الزُّبَيْرِ، عَنْ جَابِرٍ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم رَأَى امْرَأَةً فَدَخَلَ عَلَى زَيْنَبَ بِنْتِ جَحْشٍ فَقَضَى حَاجَتَهُ مِنْهَا ثُمَّ خَرَجَ إِلَى أَصْحَابِهِ فَقَالَ لَهُمْ ‏ "‏ إِنَّ الْمَرْأَةَ تُقْبِلُ فِي صُورَةِ شَيْطَانٍ فَمَنْ وَجَدَ مِنْ ذَلِكَ شَيْئًا فَلْيَأْتِ أَهْلَهُ فَإِنَّهُ يُضْمِرُ مَا فِي نَفْسِهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني) حكم :

May I ask, if you know. In this video she stressed how horrible killing a man is considered... is that man in the general sense meaning a human, or is it only specific to man meaning killing a woman isnt as big of a deal as killing a man?

Yeah I was really worried for a second but they came through

Me too

Where is this?

@@saralast4625 1:16:54 He appealed the ruling and instead of getting time off he received the double death penalty

whats a double death penalty? @@haha-rk4eg

my thoughts exactly. im very glad he didnt get away w such an awful crime but had this been done to a common girl, i doubt as many actions wouldve been taken against him.

Why be angry about something you couldn't/can't control?

@@create306i would say use ur brain but clearly it’s not there rn

​@@create306 "Oh my house was looted" "Oh my cat was killed by someone for fun" "oh my mom died on the street because of mysogynistic culture that the government isnt doing much about" "Cant get mad about all of it tho, since i couldnt do anything about it"

Yea we shouldn’t have cared because it was a diplomats daughter

I remember the protests and how the entire city was outraged when this was an ongoing case.

T Ty Ty et

You teyteiyq you Tyty right yħg yea tt yay 0:54 it

Gahq Hiii gea ugh

1:06 hairdt

its not Nora its Noor actually.

her name is Noor. get it right. don't disrespect her like that.

​@@intixlle9763thank you for the correction, much appreciated.

​@@strych9inesGees. That was considered disrespectful to her?

It's Noor. Not Nora.

Right like girl😭😭

@@janatomar4464 WORD like you still live with your parents at 37?! And proud?! Delusional omg 😆

​@@jessbawa4531but, like, a lot of Asian people live with their parents? We don't ditch our parents, it's not like we are living off of them, it's about looking after them. What's so embarrassing

@@lorrein9996 the embarrassing part is having a curfew at that age!! I’m south Asian so I know in both East and south Asian cultures, we don’t tend to leave the parental home really until you’re married and the girl goes to live with the guys family or get their own place if they can afford it. If you’re 37, single, live with mummy & daddy, and have a CURFEW, “you have to be home by 7pm…OR ELSE…even though you’re pushing 40 yrs old you better get back home” that is both humiliating and embarrassing.

@@jessbawa4531 well that is embarrassing i agree. and i am actually indian, my parents are pretty chill but they are very particular about me updating them of my whereabouts. not that i mind. if you are 22 and living outside for college, a lot of shit can go wrong. i do agree that if you are 37 and your parents dont trust you being alone outside then something is wrong.

Tbh same faith is reason for millions women suffering and dying. If not for the faith women and men everywhere will have equal laws

He got a double death sentence yet he's still alive and in jail.

You would be right

@@amnakakakhel1181 what’s up with sharia laws in these countries ? Why do they always get a slap in the wrist rather than getting a proper punishment smh 🤦🏻‍♀️ it’s tiring how this cases of abused never ends !

This man is a demon. I pray Noor rests in peace and the demon is taunted by evil spirits for the rest of his life. That includes the parents and the so-called therapists.

Women are raped and killed in Pakistan all the time. By the police as well. It's an absolutely awful place for women. Like so many Muslim countries.

No, there’s always going to be sociopaths who kill both men and women. That’s the reality of it

Men get abused too. I've seen far more men be the victim of a abusive relationship than men.. no one should hurt anyone especially someone who loves them. when a woman is hit by her male partner, everyone comes to her rescue and supports her. But, when a man is hit by a woman, everyone just laughs it off like "oh my girlfriend is crazy too, I hate when she does that" he's too afraid of judgement to ask for help. Also, women are more likely to not let a man go out or be jealous or check his phone. Just saying.

@@tiffanybuie2263and everything you’ve said doesn’t change anything about op’s comment. I could say the same thing as you : I’ve seen more women being in abuse relationships than men. When a woman is abused a lot of times people, mainly men, ask if she was « a good wife ». YES abusive against men should be talked about more but don’t act as if victims of domestic abuse (both men a women) don’t get ignored when speaking out or even shamed. This has nothing to do with jealousy, those people are DERANGED, in both cases, those men KILLED just bc of rejection, it’s not just petty anger. Those poor girls were SHAMED for existing, open you eyes.

@@tiffanybuie2263give me one instance of a man being murdered because he refused a girl’s advances my point is you’re trying to make it seems like its equal but its not, this isnt even about abusive relationships, its plain misogynistic murder, all genders have jealousy and possessive tendencies, anyone saying into “women does it more”/“men do it more” without substantial evidence is falling into anecdotal fallacy and no way you used “my girlfriend is crazy” in that way, hysteria was diagnosed to women as a literal illness, for things like anxiety, when women would express any form of negative emotions, they just got shoved aside, not taken seriously and called crazy “everyone comes to her rescue…..” that is so false, like please research anything you’re saying, thats only portrayed in movies which is not reality, in reality, those (male) abusers become judges, politicians, celebrities etc and face little consequences

@@andreabangu6607well said 👏🏽

I was thinking the same thing. Also the way the employees and therapy group acted makes me think he's killed before.

The way he literally chuckled when he explained that "Soliciting" is SA

That's so messed up. 🇧🇩 Rest in peace to that girl

So he got free? Sounds like a case for street justice

I'm from Bangladesh too and I remember this case very well but didnt knew that the evil boyfriend got away with it.Thats just really sad and heart breaking.May she rest in peace.

Rest in Peace, Aurna Amin

I'm sorry! Taught to oppress females to control them is so evil. Brains r better than muscles! Woman can overcome!💜🙏💜

It's so painfully true

Do you seriously not think it’s a HUGE problem in America? And only related to the Middle East?? Stop perpetuating a narrative. Women are sex trafficked in America and unfortunately abused in a majority of households, physically and emotionally and sometimes financially. It’s an epidemic yet people want to say it’s a Middle Eastern problem. It’s horrible anywhere it happens and it happens everywhere.

I can’t even imagine 😢 having to just stand by. I hope you’re doing okay today. I imagine you saw a lot over there.

It's because people use the name of Islam to cover these crimes even though in the religion they are supposed to be investigated and given the death penalty and it is very against the beliefs

I'm sorry about everything my country says and does about your religion. I'm an atheist, I don't see religion as logical but I understand the emotional aspect, and you deserve much better than how you're treated.

I was pretty confused here. It's so forbidden that if you do it, it should happen again? What is this about

​@@lemonstealinghorsdoeuvre no its so forbidden who does deserve the ultimate punishment

@@ahmadmog5018 I still don't understand. I get how abhorrent it is and seen as. And I get that it's generally the ultimate punishment devised by most cultures, so that's fair enough for me. I guess it's something like _if you do the worst possible thing, your punishment will match as the worst possible punishment._

I promise there are so many of us here in America!

I am so sorry to hear this is how the police responded. So many strong brave Pakistani women and women around the world deserve better than this sad excuse for male behavior- it’s less than human!

But this is common among muslims, not just noor muslim bachelor often kill their ex its just brutal teachings of the culture degrading women

​@@lallianzama3549agreed not too long ago a Pakistani guy in Australia killed his gf

​@lallianzama3549 oh please don't bring religion into this, not even the nationality etc... what this guy did here is solely on him. People tend to always try to pinpoint a certain group whenever someone from the same group does something bad. There are a lot of other criminals from other nationalities, from other religions... if such are the teachings of a religion as widespread as Islam, wouldn't the world be filled with such criminals?

@@lallianzama3549 it has nothing to do with religion but rather then the mentality of controlling women and poor parenting. All around the world for centuries women has been subjected to violence and abuse just because she dared said NO to a man. Violence, abuse, harassment, murder it doesn't have a race or religion, those who commit crimes are just criminals and sick twisted beings.

And u know they heard her screaming..

And they were probably used to it maybe that’s what he used to do to his mom

Men will always protect eachother's crimes. Remember that

​@@crestfire8008That is so not true.

@@daniellelopez3342 true for 98% of them

You know her in real life!?

​​@@sebastianalexander5564they're talking in regards to the way she talks about the cases here on youtube Either way im sure she is a good person in regards to sensitive topics no one in their right mind will poke fun on such things please use your brains .

Yes, if they are women.

It must have been so heartbreaking this case is so difficult to watch 💔

My sympathy and condolences to you and your friends. What lovely friends Nora had. It must have been so difficult for you and the family. What a tragedy that happened from a immature child . Can't even call him a man. The staff needed to let her go. I hope they all got jailed. My blood boiled when I seen the 2 guards trying not to let Nora go. And that immature child not even a man. How pathetic how he walked over to her. I wish Nora just said yes I'll marry you so she could just escape. I know it's easy said then done. My heart break because in India money talks and bullsh_t walks. People are bought for silence. I believe he was in the right frame of mind.

@@Mm2lov3r0 hi it truly was hard to watch. It's been 3 days I watched it and I'm still thinking of Nora.

How sad for you! It must have been devastating for all her friends. I can’t even imagine her family’s pain. The therapist should be charged.He dropped the ball.

Many men do recognise this fact, and find this case just as disgusting and disgraceful as you do. Please don't generalise and stereotype us - though I recognise it is more culturally prevalent in some areas of the world than others. Also, if this guy was frying his brain with m3th, that will make shaky personalities even more unstable. It's a curse, and extremely dangerous for some.

They could be born female too, it is not some divine reason why they are born male. Have empathy.

​​​@@willowcrowe4224the people who save you are also men. If you generalize it only shows your limited mental capacity and the pitiful understanding you have of your surroundings. Powerful positions are held by men, so changes are also executed by men. If men were the demons you are making out to be, you wouldn't even have the freedom or power to type all this sh*t.

@willowcrowe4224 you contradict yourself. Your saying 'not all men' is exactly the point I'm trying to make. And my feelings aren't hurt, they're outraged by what this poor girl was forced to go through. I've seen how m3th turns people into animals, male and female. This is the biggest factor in this outrage imo. The entitlement of power, and a brain fried by m3th.

@@alistairogilvy7696 I remember this guy talking about knowing someone on coke as well as someone on Meth. It was a world of difference, the latter just hollows people out. They are gone.

im glad to know you acknowledge that

@@amnatahir9224?

Day of sacrifice, right?

@@jeanisdancingno that is eid el Adha. And even then this comment is just disgusting we don’t kill humans it is big animals that are slaughtered in a humane way

I just feel for her and her family cause all they’ll feel on Eid al fitr is her death

@@harharharharharharharharha240 I have also heard people are starting to just donate to charity in stead of slaughtering animals. I'm not entirely sure about it though, since apparently the meat of the animals is being donated to charity, so my information might've gotten lost in translation somewhere.

This truly reminds me of a version a “honor killing”

bingo !!

I agree. He needed to spend some time in prison for assisting his son. The fact that he thought that Noor was disposable is sickening.

@fuzzamajumula Such a shame they didn't hold him responsible too.

Apples don't fall too far from the tree.

@user-ef7rx4pd7j Definitely seems like it here.

How many girls did he do this to, before he got caught! He sounds like a serial killer to me, and he spoke of sacrifices, and the way he spoke about slicing other women’s boobs and his perversion. 😢 it all screams a serial killer!!

As half Pakistani this was an outrageous case in Egypt as well, very tragic indeed. But does not represent the country nor the Pakistani culture. We can however learn from the mistakes of the “perfectionist parenthood culture “

@@ChefNourhanlies

@@MissAyame89What !?!

It must be so so scary, I wouldn't sleep either.i heard this case on rotten mango podcast..I am horrified and so broken hearted for her

Incase anyone is wondering the name “Nour” "نور" means “Light” in Arabic 💔

I think she has already covered this case I think it got deleted or slth I remelber watching it a long while back

Oh? O: I've looked and I've seen other Days of Hell videos, but not this one@@flaky_salt

@@flaky_saltoh really??? I just submit a request for her to cover that case😭

@@clairebearcomp yea just type 44 days of hell its there on one of her channels or on Spotify (:

For real

They were given 10 years of prison

@@ashley-or7zp wow not a life sentence. At least.

those other crime assistants should get the same sentence as the criminal, doing a crime and assisting is the same thing symbolically even if not technically.

​@@ashley-or7zptoo little

Same I'm also from Islamabad n this case and another where best friend had her friend presented to her dad n tortured mad me so mad n want to carry firearm for protection

I remember. And the motorway incident happened around the same time. Everyone was terrified to leave the house. And I remember people literally kept blaming the women in both cases. "why was she there?". Why don't they ask the right questions. Why don't they ask why he did what he did. Why did he think that was okay?

@@fatima_jamil oh my god yes! The motorway incident was just horrible beyond words! I cannot even imagine how traumatic it still must be for the poor mom and her kids especially with all the sensationalization and victim blaming. I pray that she's able to find peace in her life and realizes that none of that was her fault.

@@stafeleez same. I can't even imagine. I remember how unsafe the environment became. One of the postgrads in the hospital I study in made jokes about it to a classmate of mine. I felt so disgusting and unsafe. This gets talked about all the time. Everywhere. It's so scary

I wish you the best, be safe

100%

Men are the same everywhere. A 15 year old was just stabbed to death in London for asking a man to stop harassing her friend to accept flowers. Not every man in these regions share such views.

💯! In a way, this was a version of an “honor killing” to me. Breaks my heart

the racist undertones of this comment... wow.... "the way women are viewed in this part of the world". Pakistan has had a women Prime Minister... has America or Canada had one yet? There are evil people everywhere, you shouldn't be generalizing

​@@HS-ie8tj Well, no. You can find men like this everywhere, that's for sure, but don't let yourself be foolish enough to believe that the society someone lives in doesn't influence the way they are. Because it does. Almost every society, to a degree, tells men that it's shameful to get rejected by a woman and ok to defend your pride, that women have to be a bit more soft and polite than they have to be, etc. But societies like in Pakistan are way, way more patriarchic than let's say the UK. That's why crimes against specifically women are more common there. People are the same everywhere, as a basis, but it's greatly influenced by the society they live in, how they turn out and behave, since it greatly influences how they think and feel about things. So, saying the "where" doesn't really matter is kind of a slap in some victims and activists faces. So many try hard and risk all to make their country, their society, a better and saver one and you say (likely accidentally) that it doesn't matter, since it's the same everywhere anyway. Which is so far from the truth and that's proven by statistics and personal stories alike.

I honestly dont believe he killed her cause she rejected a proposal. I think thats his own way of trying to "shift blame" onto her cause she's the one who "rejected his noble request". I believe he killed her for a worse reason, probably cause she refused to have sex with him or something just as sinister. But he was trying his best to do damage control. Cause i personally would be accepting that proposal for the time being if that meant i get to save my own life

​@@moistorphan I don't think that was an option to her, just accepting now and backing out later. IIRC divorce is heavily frowned upon in the Islamic religion and hard to make happen, especially if it's a Wife wanting to divorce the husband. With Noor being very religious, I highly doubt she would do that, even to save her life.

@@thedeathray8620 i dont think i need to mention that lying to save ones own life is okay... she can "accept" his proposal. And altho divorce does become harder when kids are involved, this woman is supported by her parents and i doubt she would have a hard time getting a divorce, in the case that she does ACTUALLY comply with his wish and marry him

@@thedeathray8620 that’s true of Catholicism maybe, but not Islam.

She could have been unwilling to back out of a promise (even when it was made under threat of death) due to her own personal honor, or he could have been lying about why he killed her. We'll never know. Either way, RIP Noor.

Why do you hate religion? In all religions they don't allow this. Just some sickos that use religion to justify raping women

Yeah but Islam promotes it

@@tonyak2446 You clearly know nothing about Islam 🙄

​@@tonyak2446 I am a muslim for my whole life and can you tell me where Islam promotes it?

This is specific to one group. Don’t lump everyone into it. Statistically u r comparing an apple to an asteroid.

i agree with @RojaJaneman , i know lot of mens who dont speak up about their domestic violence because they dont want to be a cry baby. there is even a case about a famous tiktok girl who's killed her husband because he didnt search for help (stabbed him with scissors after months of domestic violence)

⁠@@hito1988nobody is saying this doesn’t happen to other genders. We are saying this is such a major problem for one specific gender that it even has a name and is disproportionately affecting us in essentially every single country and not enough is being done and not enough people care. because we are supporting the cause against femicide does not mean we aren’t supporting men. In this regard, in terms of worldwide deaths and cases, women are extremely affected and at risk and it is a major crisis. Same for trans men and women and non-binary people, it is at a rate so high that it lowers their life expectancy. When you hear these things, why not pour your support to into helping people (including men) instead of changing the conversation to something else. Men are abused and that is completely unacceptable and something we should fight as a society, truly. But this is worldwide mass murder of women. I’m not trying to be combative, but it’s so disheartening that every conversation about stopping femicide has to be rerouted to something else that really is valid, but is just not the topic we are talking about at the moment which is thousands upon thousands of women being murdered a year BECAUSE they are women and needs to be solved as fast as possible.

Naw femcide only happen in India now its ended stop victimise youself because of people like you I laugh on real raped victims

Violence n murder of men is way higher than women. We need to just stop killing ppl in general. Mental illness n anger is what needs a light shined on it….

i tried so many other podcasts but i couldnt shes too good

Saaaaame. For a male podcaster I'd recomend Aaron Mahnke, he does Lore and a bunch of different shows, but it's a completely different vibe. Sthep gives the vibe that she is really talking to you like.. telling you personal stuff. Her emotions shine through so much!

Really?

@@sarahisatitagain Coffeehouse Crime and Mr. Ballen are my go-to male KZfaqrs/Podcasters for this and similar content. Adrian, from ChC, tells the stories from the perspective of the victims, and always makes sure the emphasis is on them rather than the criminals. Mr. Ballen is just a truly exceptional storyteller of the strange, dark, and mysterious. Both are incredibly good.

Yeah I listen while I’m working

Wow... just wow. I don't believe you have ever read Genesis in your life after this statement.

@Maria Yup, even in US, the way women are viewd by some women.

For real. Other issues like racism are being fought and taken seriously, but for some reason misogyny is still viewed as “normal”. I guess thats what happens when the world is dominated by males. How come we can acknowledge that slavery is cruel, but can’t acknowledge that abortions are a human right?

Everything has advanced, except for some men, they are still cavemen or even animals.

​@@amandaa3713That's what hurts the most. With men you could argue that they are just unable to put themselves in another persons shoes, still a goddamn problem with how much of the narrative they still control when it comes to women's struggels but at least there is an explanation no matter how shitty it is, but other women who grew up with the same struggles and fears and still spout that idiotic drivel get my blood boiling.

​@@lexa2310😂nice projection. There are way more men helping women than vice versa.

That’s why I never mind listening for hours

I can binge listen/watch Stephanie’s stories!

She actually said it’s others who research a lot of these. She just tells the stories.

@@tellmeaboutit9975 it’s still very impressive how Steph made sure to have a team of researchers and I am sure she spends good amount of time to re-tell their hard work they’ve put it research. Also, we see only 2 hours, Im sure they are sitting and filming for more than 2 hours

@@tellmeaboutit9975 If the average person were to weave all of that research into a story, they would probably sound robotic, awkward, or even confused, even after days of prep. Not Stephanie, though, especially considering the rate at which she posts. She's got talent.

Absolutely yes, they deserved all of the punishments. Except poor Noor 😢

He is from a rich family in a corrupt country like Pakistan. I suspect he is going through all the appeal procedures available and also his family is taking advantage of their political contacts. I doubt he will ever be executed.

​@@suzy8109I hope that murderer will be executed and those accomplices will serve their sentences as they should be. For sure, Noor's family has connections as well. They will not let go of this case and will bring justice to Noor's death.

They should have given the accomplices life in my opinion. They had so many opportunities to let her free or call the police. They are complicit in her murder.

​@@suzy8109 noors family are literally politicians I'm sure they have a strong connection to government

The weird behavior of everyone around Zahir Jaffer is sus, like this is not the first time he held a woman captive in the house. 😮

I'm also from Asia and arranged marriages are very common. One of my distant relative got married to this "wonderful man" and on the wedding night, she realised her new husband is crazy. She called her dad the next morning, asking to initiate divorce. The husband's family said "oh he's just a little autistic, he has anxiety yada yada yada". Okay fine. A week later they go on a trip and she tears her sandal strap. Her husband was screaming and immediately slapped her right in front everybody for "breaking the sandal strap". This girl went home immediately, called her dad, said she is divorcing this insane man and saved herself from the trouble

that's subjective on what you think "violent" is. islam does say you can punish your wife if she is "disobedient"

@@yasmina1994 can you give me the page number where it says that?

They will

I mean... having to say no in the face of a really powerful family whose also a psycho, that's a very difficult thing to do when you're the one standing across from him

They assumed she was worthless, because she was female.

Heartbreaking & the horror & pain her parents have had to endure is equally beyond comprehension and heartbreaking 😭😢

No one said anything about it but you. Youbare the only one I see making a comment about the girls faith.

Helloo?? Try watching the whole video or at least google people's reactions before commenting@@karentucker2161

she was a religious girl and broke up with the guy bcs he was getting in the way of her faith; lets not bring up religion here

@@karentucker2161 maybe you don’t see it in THIS COMMENT section, but the fact of the matter IS HER FAITH DID GET QUESTIONED and BY HER OWN PEOPLE, did you NOT just watch the same video OP and I did??

Her name was Noor not Nora.

Something people dont understand in the west is that families can hold more power than government if you dont play by the rules designed to weaken the power of familes. They knew this, he was the next head have family and they didnt have time time to make another. Generations of work across centuries, wasted. This is in no way a justification but it is a lens through which you can understand the thought process of it. Its on the parents for not raising him better and reigning him in more as much as its his own fault.

lol you western don't understand islmic country like Pakistan

No

Are you able arm yourself with bear spray or similar there? :

​​@@halfwen4575does it really make a difference when terrorists are roaming around freely with ak-47 and strap-on suicide vests?

​@@arpan9937you actually think people are walking around with Ak 47s in Pakistan 😭

@arpan9937 idk the laws & suggesting something that may be a legal option >_

@@halfwen4575 you can carry pepper spray on you. A lot of people carry tasers too.

Facts!!

Thank goodness Noor was a Nepo baby herself otherwise her case really would have been swept under a rug. Daughter of a diplomat and they still tried so hard to hide the nature of her death. Disgusting. The whole family of Zahir is rotten

and the only reason why this case was solved was because the victim lost her life. even with all the evidences, there are incidents where these nepo baby culprits get away. crazy how money talks

Power and influence can help you in anything.

Whats nepo by the way?

yes, especially if the victim is a woman. Or just anything besides a straight cis man honestly... Can't even let Noor have some peace and respect in death. Disgusting

It's your faith that allows men to treat women like this. Of course not all men do that but its allowed. That's the problem. Women have no rights in this faith.

Islam may not be a violent religion in theory, but it sure is violent in practice. Just like how Christianity is a loving religion in theory, but it's hateful in practice. The religion isn't the problem, the people are.

​@@deviantmoore9744as a Christian I completely agree! Some people use their religion as an excuse to be horrible people, it truly goes past what their religion is about in the first place. It's such a shame :(

⁠@@deviantmoore9744 As a Muslim I totally agree with you, and I find it quite disgusting that people use religion as a excuse for doing something so terrible

May God bless you!

This is so sad😢😢😢.. this poor woman

Absolute bullshit. I am 100% sure if you ask a man what their biggest fear is they'll probably say 'to die'. Same with a woman. I know you are trying to make a point, but spreading this bs will not help the cause.

extremely ignorant

@@peenyweeny3834 yes it is that women live in fear while men fear rejection that is extremely ignorant and it needs to change how many women must die from a mans hands before it becomes enough.? How long must we live in fear until enough is enough.?

@@peenyweeny3834 of men? so true

What a stupid comment... Whoever told that man's biggest fear/regret is rejection lied to you. There are far more worse and scarier things. Women in certain parts of the world are treated like garbage, UK has alot of these people here that made"honour killings" and then cry about Islam and how peaceful it is.... Look at Amber heard- lied through the trial and still has no consequences while he had to endure hell for over 6y. Jodi arias is atleast in jail. Get a brai and stop playing the victim when you're not.

For real. 😠 Doing absolutely nothing

But the public in general absolutely sees it. It's just that some, too many, don't. But the overall public does.

Her name was Noor, not Nora. Just a small correction❤

her name is not Nora but Noor Muqadam

What are you talking about? There is no single "individual" who actually claims to not see this murderer for who he actually is. It's the media and the powers that run the world who try to hide these facts

Most people from the public can see it just fine, it's just a certain proportion of the netizens in Pakistan who are victim blaming Noor. The more we focus on these toxic comments the more it stays in the light. I just report them whenever I see them and move on. Platforms like youtube are actually actively removing comments like this, unlike facebook and instagram. Once a platform ignored my reports more than a certain number of times, I basically uninstall it

True... Greetings from Greece 🇬🇷 my friend Stay safe and a good person 💕

It is a shame as a muslim country to have a culture that goes against your religion in all kind of sense.

They claim that’s lies tho….

Yes exactly!!

Absolutely! An estimated 1000 women are subjected to honour killing in Pakistan each year. These are only the cases that are reported, many cases go unreported. In this case the behaviour of the parents, the people who heard everything happening, and society in general after this case came to limelight, show how efd up the reality is!!

😔rest in peace to her 😡 her ex and killer can go rot in prison and hell too.

He better get what's coming to him, swift & sure justice :

and what do you want to know ? How she was raped ? She basically opened her legs in the first place

I shudder to think if Noor was from some tribal group or from a simple poor family, this ‘Influential and rich’ family of the perpetrator would have buried the case and it would not even come in the media…forget the court of law! How evil is this!! Again a brilliant, knowledgeable, beautiful, kind and bright woman butchered just because this horrible vile monster did not like being said NO to!!!!! Parents need to raise better children to be good people and responsible citizens! Rest in peace beautiful Noor✨😔 This world lost a radiant light🌟

That's what I thought too. I thought that the therapist knew he could be violent especially if that guy was a patient at the therapists work place. I thought therapist might have brought backup Incase they needed to subdue him due to his violent tendencies. But honestly now it's just weird..

For real. 😬

Same. Makes you wish you could just reach through the camera and warn them.

When she went to the his house tht night for the first time. I was gripping my phone😟😟😟

every time u people forget that Rahman and Satan both live in form of humans in this world. There is not a single country where all are angels. We most of the time when remember the incident of APS , we think about terrorists but what about those teachers who sacrificed themselves for their students? we are so addicted to seeing negative side of things. You are a teacher and you are losing your faith, do you think you'll be able to teach the lesson of humanity to your students?

@SHAFAMATEEN I've come to a complete stop in everything I was doing previously just to reply to your comment because I feel the exact opposite. The original poster is not in the wrong here. There is nothing wrong with being shocked, disturbed, and feeling emotional when hearing about the torture and murder of an innocent woman. If anything, this teacher is showing more 'humanity' simply by being disturbed and upset over the death of someone she (assuming this teacher is female) didn't even know. Shedding tears in front of students shows that not only is it okay to cry, but that crying can help you heal-that it's okay to have a moment of "weakness." The amount of violence against women in this world is absurd and needs to stop. But, alas, here we are. We all know it will continue until the day we all die. This teacher did nothing wrong. May Noor rest in peace.

​@@SHAFAMATEEN It is always women's fault, right?

first of all sister, i didnt say that a person cant be weak, we all are humans and feel emotions, but I am just saying that parents and teachers are backbone of society, if a teacher tells me that i cant excel in my studies, i wouldnt actually bcz teachers' remarks make a great impression.@@zimtastic1171 I come from family of teachers, my father has received best teacher awards by government a lot of times and he says that Allah has given the "loh and Qalm" to teacher and he writes the destiny of his students by the will of Allah. I hate it when teachers who are supposed to make their students good Muslims and good Pakistani show faithlessness in front of their students, they need to be strong especially in front of students

did I say it anywhere? @@amandaa3713

Sometimes not even because we say no. Sometimes women are killed just because we’re women.

Nobody deserves to be tortured for two days and raped only to then be killed and disrespected even in death and treated worse than cattle in factory farms. But misogyny makes people think someone, especially women, deserve that, for even just breathing