man there's Pensado the interviewer, the show the ads etc. but Pensado in the producer chair answering questions and sharing wisdom on his craft and art, what an experience! and what a cool intelligent human.

Dave Pensado is master of the analogy. Thanks for letting him speak it all through, Warren Huart!

this is the best pensado interview of all time.

I had an amazing time interviewing Dave! He's not only a great mixer but also a truly wonderful guy! Please if you can check out the interview he did with on his show here:- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ea2cjbmjtdWuepc.html Thanks very much I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren

He's so relatable, you can feel he reflects a lot and questions himself at times. It's awesome to hear one of the greats speak so bluntly.

"you don't wanna overpower the bacon"... My new life motto.

"All you're becoming is a great typist - you're not saying anything with your typing skills." Such mines of information you two are. I love those analogies Dave gave in this interview. Cheers, Warren, keep up the great work!

Worked with Dave here in Toronto where he was the keynote speaker at the IMSTA FESTA. Got to hang with him and listen to him impart his wonderful thought process. He is a great guy and a really wonderful mixer. Really enjoyed this interview. Cheers!!

Two very highly intelligent, gifted and skilled gentlemen chatting as only such folk can do - what a joy.

I usually try to mix fast, and once I find my toes tapping, I know I'm getting close. Then, I back off for a day, return, and start tweeking things in the mix. However, it can be a bit tedious going through to audition all the plugins...and there are many! But I'll also say through trial, error, and time, I've found a few of my go to plugins (mostly Slate, a few Waves, and fewer Plugin Alliance), and I'm finally comfortable with realizing I don't have to try and use every plugin I have...like Mr. Pensado once said, "Sometimes, less is more."

Out - Friggen-Standing! What a great wealth of audio-spiritual concepts as they relate to being... not only an inspired engineer but being a full human being; confident and bold, humble and willing to be challenged and praised (or not) regardless! Super stuff Dave! (& Warren) And I'm not even 35 minutes in... Had to comment now (while still listening) with the emotional connection I feel listening to this...non technical yet superbly philosophical and extremely valid offering of wisdom for all of us. Bravo! It's also great to see your mutual respect of each other shine through in such an easy demeanor. I completely identify with so much of this conceptually and practically. (I am relatively unknown after 20+ years as an engineer but still very fortunate and satisfied and much of this echoes exactly why) Thank you guys.

Have to say I was impressed! I know Dave is regarded as one of the top mixers, BUT, whenever I've tried to listen to his shows, I've found him rambling and hard to follow so I stopped. This interview was way different. Really came to enjoy his views and know his background better. I have much more respect for the man now. Thanks Warren.

I had no idea that Dave was so philosophical. Fascinating listening... Very inspiring and thought provoking. Thanks guys.

I just listened to this episode on Spotify and my goodness...the wisdom that Dave Pensado was sharing blew my mind. Great episode!

Intelligent conversation and observations about craft, art, influences, career, perspective and more. A refreshing addition to gear, mixing and plug-ins. Nice!

This one off my all time favourite interviews and not just limited to the engineering world. Dave has some real wisdom to share. Top notch.✊

Warren, you are an awesome musician, engineer, producer, and educator. This interview with Mr. Pensado really shows your talent in bringing out a persons inner creative voice. Thank you....

Warren, thanks for doing everything you do. All the videos you create about production and engineering are massively helpful to me and im sure many many others. Big up thanks for the knowledge. Love this episode. Pensado is the man.

Yea I will admit I geeked out on this- I love it- Dave has a way of explaining things that resonates with me- then there is Warren whom I have never met but feel we would talk for hours on end. I enjoy these not so technical sides of interviews and talking episodes.

Quite simply, the Best interview I've ever seen on KZfaq. Amazing philosophical and practical content in this one, guys. Seriously, thank you Dave and Warren.

Dave have a very special way of putting words together that make sense, and doing that it makes you remember why you couldn't get something to work in a mix....you be like wow so that's what was wrong... I appreciate Dave alot even when he's not mixing.

I'm late to this video, But loved it! I have seen a lot of Dave Pensado's videos over the years and I think he is great at his craft, and as a person with a great character! Love all your videos Warren! I'm 61 and a basement songwriter and I just like it when someone says I like that one(Song)! We all have a journey to make and at the end of the day, it's the journey that mattered! I'm not one who cares about what people will think about me when I gone, I care about what people think about me or life in general now! Life is for the living, and if we can have something like music give all people a connection, to me it is the only language that all people understand! I'm just rambling on now, but I would say that I love what I do musically but never was committed to it and I think Dave was spot on with what he said about commitment in general! To both you and Dave, THANKS!

This was the most amazing conversation between two to notch men. I learned more about why I view my craft...mix decisions the way that I do. This interview really opened my eyes to how I can become a great mixer for my clients before I even touch a fader. Thank you!!!

I felt the interview he did with you, Warren, was excellent. But this? This is a several levels beyond . I hesitate to comment on specifics, other than to tell you that there were many, too many to categorize. Lot's of people can talk the ins and outs about a subject, not too many can speak fluently at this deeper level, but that's just what you and Dave did...bravo!!

Great professionals with great life and experience. Principles that we feel every day and, many times are hard to materialize in words and even express to ourselfs and our clients. Thanks for it guys!

You're a great interviewer Warren. No awkward stuff with you. Just a good old chat about our love that is music. Thank you.

Hey Warren, I remember watching this video last month and the thing that stuck with me the most was when Dave/you said you need to "Commit" before anything good can happen. He said to just print something and moved forward. You can always go back later if you really need to. That really helped me on the last track I just finished. Thanks again for the great videos!

What a great interview, Dave is so good and yet so modest. He provided so much insight into what drives his success as an engineer, and also seems like a great person to work with. He combines his technical knowledge, creativity, wisdom and experience to the mix.

Great watch. Love the Jack Douglas story.. When I was 18 I walked around Music Row knocking on doors trying to meet Dann Huff...Still waiting..!

What I love about these vids is the guys obviously know their stuff but they don't try to 'big it up' as if it's all one huge mystery beyond the realms of the bloke in the street. Just simple methods and principles any one can use regardless of their equipment and experience. Good to see that in this ever-obfuscatory world :)

This is exactly what I need to hear. Thank you guys!

I started off with 6 years of classical piano training. Then a family member got tired of doing remixes so he asked if I could compose something for him. Eventually others at my highschool liked my beats but they had no means of recording, so I bought a an Audio Technica AT2020. Once I had songs recorded, they needed to mixed so I learned. Once my mixes improved, artists wanted to be competitive with the rest of the music out in the world, so I learned how to master. In todays world, you have to be able to provide a finished product because alot of artists are looking for convenience. To follow in Dave's food examples, you're going grocery shopping, you want milk bread and apples, you could go to a dairy farm, squeeze fresh milk, go to an artisan bakery buy bread, go to an orchard pick apples, or you can go to your neighbourhood convenience store and pick up all three items - each of which may not be the best quality but atleast you finished your list. That being said, the best mix I've done, I didn't record and the best master I've done, I didn't mix.

Pure wisdom! Really helpful information. It's like Dave said, it's all stuff I already knew but helps me reorganize my thoughts and prioritize. Sometimes you can get too lost on the technical side of things... I loved what he said about focusing too much on the process and therefore ruining the result, that's just gold to me :)

i just love the philosophy of you two guys! i literally could listen to you guys all day long! thank you!

What an amazing interview...i was compelled the whole 1:17:13 min... I came across your channel to one of your vocal mixing posts and i just happened to stumble on this interview. my journey with this interview started during my lunch break (office job) and i was so drawn in that i had to sneak in snippets during the afternoon whilst at work..lol. Finally managed to finish it after my kids went to bed and in between the wife rushing me to watch a tv program with her..lol i cant wait to see what else you've posted... thanks again Jason from Australia

Great video. . . that last part reminded me of a Johnny Carson joke - " what's the one sentence that has never been spoken in the English language? " ' Is that the trombone player's new Porsche?" Thank you for your KZfaq videos Warren. Bill

It's been a while since I watched a Pensado video, he was the guy I started with years ago. I've watched hours and hours of his video's, not sure how much of it stuck mind you but this video reminds me of how easy it was not knowing he was a Grammy Award winning engineer. Great conversation between two ridiculously talented down to earth guys.

I could watch this a thousand times. What a great perspective. Thank you for sharing this with us.

Warren, I've just recently started watching your show. Loving it. I've been a huge Pensadoite for a while and just watching that show has improved my mixing tremendously. I'm sure the same will be said for your show. Seeing the two of you together was like finding out two of your friends know each other and get along. Very cool show! Bless yah!

I love the part about commitment. Taking the leap. Just going for it. I grew up in Norway just being a kid in love with music and sound. Now I live in Vancouver, Canada making a living from writing, mixing and producing music. Never looked back. Decided to move to Canada on the last day of a 5 week North American tour. Had all my stuff shipped from Norway. Then again post a not so fruitful marriage I just said..#$#@ it, moving to Vancouver. I literary had $500 in my pocket, 2 suitcases, 1 cat upon my arrival in Vancouver. Stayed at a shady hostel for a week to figure things out. Now, in a home, have a kid, a gorgeous girlfriend and a decent studio and never have been more productive and excited about music in general. Full throttle ahead. So yes, sometimes...you have to just commit to a decision and go for it. Despite how mad it might appear and seem to others and yourself at the moment. It is hard, almost impossible to tame a dream and goals. And you never should compromise or tame it. Let it loose, whatever it is. Wherever it is.

I enjoy all your videos, Warren, and I thank you very much for the great service you are doing by making them for us. But I have to say that the interview with Dave Pensado really stands out. Mr. Pensado is a gentleman, a scholar, and an artist. That was a real treat.

My two favorites in one place. GIANTS!!!!! Thank you both so much what what you are doing for the craft.

His way of thinking is beautiful. Lot to learn. The practical lessons from mom. Nothing beats that. Take care.

Wonderful video. So much thoughtful advice. I could have listened two more hours :) This is an outstanding video of the "Produce like a Pro" series.

love your interviews.inspire me to work harder.thanks for that !

What a great interview! Best one I've seen with Dave thus far! A casual conversation between 2 respected mix engineers about what they love most. No sell sell. And mutual respect given, without becoming sycophantic or oleaginous, as I've seen delivered on other shows by other interviewers. And I love one of those final analogies - I've always said that mixing sonics in a song is very akin to mixing flavours for a meal. Thanks Warren! :D

Man this is sooo good. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Philosophy is such a big part of creativity and craft. Thanks, man.

Thanks Warren for your work. It is good to see knowledgeable humble people taking time to encourage and inspire other people!

Love what he says here about commitment and opportunity. Somebody once told me to become a successful person "you have to be the kind of person that says 'yes' to an opportunity." Try things. What's the worst that can happen--you have an experience? That's what life's about!

Another great interview. This one again with the mixing greats: Warren Huart and Dave Pensado! Talking philosophies and insights in their varied yet singular approaches to making music... and well, life.

Another GREAT one!!! Thank you Mr Warren, it really was exciting watching the two of you expand on philosophy about our craft and art. I can tell i got a valuable lesson!!!

awesome, love watching these interviews with all the big players in the game

Just watched this a second time.. DEFINITELY THE BEST PENSADO INTERVIEW EVER

I love this so much. Two of my favorite mixers and frankly favorite people, both so generous with their time and advice. Thank you Warren, thank you Dave.

I'm only 1/2 way through this, and it's already the most fascinating interview I've heard in years.

Another truly inspiring talk / discussion .. somebody once said ' we tend to agree most with people who are telling us what we want to hear & what we want to believe ' which if you are interested in psychology & philosophy is in itself a talking point.. Once again I hear commit .. by the way of this pathways leading to other skills .. I was incredibly shy until I spent 5 years working in a swimming pool ..Mostly teaching .. which taught me how to project .. public speaking .. got me triathalon fit & since water has no feelings about people one way or another I became fascinated by the psychology .. mesmerism .. hypnotism .. & the motivational side of coaching .. I learnt a lot about learning .. muscle memory & unconcious memory .. I had a band as well .. but I made more money from the catering on the side than the gigs so .. But I digress cheers .. Warren when you say 'up north ' do you mean further up than York ? lol

This channel is progressively changing my outlook and enjoyment of being a mix engineer. Great job man!!!

Incredibly thoughtful interview. Thank you both so much for sharing such mindful wisdom.

Such an invaluable interview! Learned a lot of great things! Thanks so much!!!

40:20 "You don't see the entire painting at one time ... a great painter draws around the painting to direct your eye the way he wants it to go ... well, we can do the same thing in the mix process" ... (to draw the listener to pay attention to what we think they should hear). Dave has so many wise analogies. This was an EXCELLENT interview, and so far my favorite. Warren is also a genius in his own right. Thanks, gentlemen!

He seemed strikingly authentic and relaxed in this interview, so... well done

Yet again,amazing interview and like comments before me I find myself in total agreement and Dave just cracks me up with his anthologies! Both of you .....awesome!!

Great interview Warren! I checked in just to see a few mins. I stayed for the ride!

That drum bleed was always on my mind ang I was fascinated by that! So glad to hear the real deal about it!

What a tremendous wealth of knowledge & inspiration! Awesome classic interview/conversation.

A true KZfaq Jewel this one! Thank you so much for this Interview. Humbling and inspiring. Respect to both of you Gentlemen.

Man this is so cool. I often forget how much wealth of information there is in just listening in to conversations of great mixers speaking around the art of mixing and personal journey into the craft. You guys are the best. I was just asking myself "Where the heck does Dave Pensado get his name from?" and I see now from Spain. Never knew he was 6'4'"...all together its just cool to look into his life and for once not see him as that cool sincere magic mix man I may never get to meet.

Wow. I have to say I was inspired on many levels during this interview, to the point of taking some notes! and wanting to put some quotes up in big letters on the studio wall. In particular I liked what Dave said about people not buying instrumental or acapella music and that we should lead the attention of the listener from vocal to instruments, back to vocal, back to an instrument and so on to keep them engaged during the song. I had never thought about that at all. I am actually getting back into music after a 4-year break and have been taking some time to check out advances in gear and stumbled across your´s and Dave´s channels and I have been completely blown away by the detail and information you are giving and I am very keen to put it all into practice! Watch this space :-) Thank you both ever so much.

Hi Warren! Thanks again for another great video! This one was really fantastic! The two of you showed that despite who you are known to be, you are regular approachable people. What you do with these videos is great, because you show everyone who you really are. We all appreciate that you take the time to reach out to "us"' and ask us to tell you what we think, and what we do when we make music. Yes, no matter who a person is or what level someone is at, we can all learn from each other. I also appreciate that in this interview/video we were able to see the intellectual side of both you and Dave. I can truly relate to what you both said in this interview about making a commitment, and the non-linearity of life. Very to the heart for me! I could ramble on hear forever, but I won't. Thanks! Stu

this is such an amazing interview. Sooooo many gems from Dave. Thank you for this!!

DAVE!!! One of my Fav's and WARREN!!! One of my New Fav's! What I can't wrap my head around is HOW can you dislike this interview? Smh Oh, Well! I'm enjoying it.

i am so gonna watch every video on the channel.. thank you so very much

Great interview Warren! I recently found (and subscribed to) your KZfaq channel. It's inspiring me to get back into producing. Thanks Warren! I needed that!

This is a fantastic conversation. It hits home on several levels. Very cool. Thanks!

Had to watch this twice to write down all the little nuggets of wisdom you two were sharing. Fantastic.

so many great quotes and ideas on creative work in this video! the entire thing resonated with me. i never thought about the importance of commitment, but it's always something that has led to success for me, even if that comes years later when that experience finally clicks into place. would love to have a couple pints with you two! cheers 🥂

Wow this is amazing. I never really noticed the bleed in beautiful before, even though I have heard that song hundreds of times. I had to go back and listen to the song just to hear that. It is so great!

Legend!! - so generous with his knowledge and so insightful here

I was hoping for a studio tour... Great interview! I really enjoy listening to Dave Pensado talk.

Thanks Warren for doing this , Dave Pensado !! Amazing interview

This interview is appreciably personal. Thank you both for your insights.

I Love that the Interview has been reversed as I found you through Dave's Site & am continuously blessed as a result from both of you. Finally I can make a contribution as it gives me great hope & I fully agree with you when you say that having a level of musicality & playing a musical instrument helps in communication. I do live sound at Church & because of my understanding of Band dynamics, I am able to create the perception where some of the muso's fall short or curb the over enthusiastic adrenaline based performance that is to come when I sound check my gain structure. I can then translate that information to the muso's for them to take & better improve on their delivery or dis guard it which ever they decide :-) I so prefer the controlled environment of a Studio though that allows for more personality to come out with the subtleties that you speak of & am starting to Gig like Mad now to raise the funds to get my Mac, Logic & Pro-tools DAW to better expand on my ability. Until then though I aim to download a free version of Reaper to still be able to work on projects & build on skill. What is your take on this as an interim solution?

man oh man, I cant thank you enough for taking the time to do all of your videos.!!!!!

Wow Warren , love watching your vids , they give me so much more drive to get where I want to be .... Again , as always , excellent interview dude .... Dave is such a cool guy ...

I really enjoyed this interview, especially the part about commitment and John Lennon story. It's all so true and works for so many situations in life, not just for music engineering.

Wow! Amazing time with my two favorite guys on KZfaq. So much gold in this interview. Commitment!

Great interview. My niece's christening was in the church opposite Aldershot West End Centre yesterday. Had to rewind for a double take when you said it. Long way from LA! Thanks for all the great vids.

what dave said at 24:24 made me emotional. I've had some rejection seriously cut me down even when my confidence was really high and i was proud of what i was doing. My audio work sounds vastly different from everything that i've heard both commerical and amateur and some people haven't liked it, but others have. Including some of my idols like adam nolly getgood and my sound teacher. I will use what he said to keep me motivated to not compromise my own style to appease the masses. I will continue to put my own love and spirit into my work. Whether people love it or hate it. I don't want to be the same.

Philosophers! Above being a guitarist, performer, writer, engineer, producer, cook, carpenter, or whatever You may be. It is having a great philosophy that is key! You gentleman have a great philosophy and convey it fanatically!! Many, many thanks, Gentlemen!!

one of the best interviews I saw with DP. I like the fact that you guys talk about a real track you both worked on. This way it goes way deeper than what plug did you use there - although I'd love to see all things considered outboard :) Awesome Warren!

Fantastic interview! You guys are incredibly generous with your knowledge and you have great philosophies. Thank you Warren, and thank you Dave!

Wow... just wow, and I mean it. I'm "only" 3/4 in and have to say this interview is gold. I've been following you both for a while and appreciate your style, attitude and craft but this is like a premium opportunity to "eavesdrop" into a conversation between 2 friends and professionals that goes beyond the usual technical tips like use this compressor, or apply this lowcut etc. This is a life lesson and a nice intellectual exchange. Master your skills until they are second nature but never forget you are selling emotions - if you're 5 dB and/or 500 Hz off but people LOVE your mix, you've done a great job., if you are "perfect to the bit" but you killed the spirit of the track, you blew it ;) I agree with you Warren 100% about learning being a skill, spot on, mate... And, to combine it with Dave's take on creativity (which I love), I guess it all sparks from curiosity. I love hanging out with creative people too, and I've never met a creative person who wasn't also curious or non-creative people who were curious. We're all different and it's fine but... if you are low on curiosity/creativity, you're missing out A LOT! I love his idea of the rules of thirds applied to mixing. Although, I've been knowing it for years from graphic design and photography, I've never REALLY made the connection. A great tip for balancing and panning, it helps a lot for those visually inclined. I could go on for days about how every couple of seconds I was going "Yeah, man... exactly!" but I'll spare you that. Suffice to say that yes... crossing over to other fields, "going interdisciplinary" to use fancy terms, pays up greatly. Learn some music and some instrument if you're an engineer and learn some audio skills if you're a musician, you won't regret it. Keep up the marvellous work and thanks .

So many great thoughts and metaphors! Very useful information

Wow. Such a good conversation. Art..Music..and then the Craft of Mixing ❤️

Waaao.... no words... both of you are an amazing humang beings!! thanks for sharing this moments with us!

Dave's rant about passion around 51:30 is brilliant. Reminds me of Marcus Aurelius' Meditations

Thanks, Warren! I KNEW this interview was coming..it's inevitable!! I love Dave's Mom's typing analogy!!

I've worked with Ed Seay a couple times. Didn't realize how respected he is amongst the audio engineering community. I hear the biggest names in the business mention his name from time to time.

Thanks so much for this amazing interview!

really enjoyed this time hanging with two great guys. thank you