Those people directly take jobs that for example, your group, black Americans could have used as stepping stones to more wealth. They also use government welfare for their children and families. They depress the labor market and decrease the value of labor. This show never reports on that for some reason

It’s also crazy because even when “legally” immigrating, it is incredibly hard to stay in the US through work sponsorship (incredibly expensive, limited sponsorships, specializing in certain fields, etc). The illegal immigration part comes in when the path to legal immigration and citizenship is made to be nearly impossible for most immigrants depending on where they’re from.

Illegal is illegal! This not about race you are being baited to think its about race. It's about low wage workers, which is indentured servitude. If you're not willing to work for low wages illegal immigrants are happy to!

Tell that to your hero mayors in NYC and Chicago. How's that sanctuary city thing working out for them?

​@@clownsleftjokersright7027 nah buddy, it is all about race. You wouldn't think twice about white immigrants, you wouldn't question if they were legal or not. It's only the brown the ones you don't like, we know that

They're always moving the goal posts too.

Yep no talk about building a wall on the northern border (which is much larger and more porous than our southern border)

The overstayed visas thing gets me. They'll still punish and deport and ban re-entry on people who have an overstayed visa, but they don't talk about it, because it doesn't fit the stereotype.

It' almost as if the skin color of *those* illegal immigrants is different from that of the ones crossing the southern border.

They also seem to forget immigrants can also cross by plane.

Could illegal immıgrants even afford to stay in the USA without work, when they can't access whatever meager socialised safety nets that are only available to citizens? Why aren't conservatives going after the registered companies & their owners illegally hiring these workers, and making it feasible for them to stay in the first place, with whatever parsimonious pay-packet they're trickling down over them? Or am I asking stupid questions about the American 'party of law and order', that I can guess the answers to because it fits with their ethos of whataboutism, hypocrisy, and stagnation/regression?

True, most of them were our European ancestors.

Hell I’ve always thought of Ellis Island as the place the paperless GOT papers. I’ve used “Ellis Island on the southern border” as an analogy for the kind of large-scale processing center we’ve long needed at the border.

Showed up at Ellis with legitimate claims for asylum, got off the boats and filed into the immigration center to begin the process to obtain citizenship? As opposed to swimming across the Rio Grande with no legitimate asylum claim other than looking to make a buck and getting free stuff, sneaking into Texas and trying to disappear? Yea...thats pretty similar.

Restrictions on immigration (especially people from certain countries) didn't even begin until the end of the 19th Century and it escalated severely in the middle of the 20th Century. So, it's funny how often these clowns want to both claim their relatives "followed the (non-existent) immigration laws" but also that they've laid roots in America for at least a century... I mean, it's not like anything they've ever had to argue on this topic needed to be based in truth anyway.

Exactly. People didn’t apply to be pre-approved to come here; they paid for passage and showed the fuck up and got processed through Ellis Island. That’s how my dad’s side of the family got here.

Respect less is not possible anymore for me.

Can you have negative respect for someone?

give in to it

Sunni western Muslims shouldn't live where juic, anglo-saxons and the alphabet people live. Support my plan of a civilized seperation, online gov, listing our people, membership at the OIC and negotiating a piece of unused land for Hijrah. Parts of the Sinai could be it.

You lose immediately with rightwingers when you discover and we've discovered a long time ago that they have no shame or any sense of self awareness left, they just lie and say whatever they want to say and in the case of Dave Rubin it's even worse because we know he's only doing this for the money, he's on a side who for the main part, believes he shouldn't have any rights but because he's rich and spews their garbage he gets a temporary reprieve from their wrath, that will come if and when they have their way.

As he said they are coming across the border, and we don't know many, yet every day they quote figures, which we know they just pull out of their ass.

Then its ok for us to be racist and target Dave Rubin?

Very good point.

mine came on a slave ship, was that legal or illegal or as the text books in Florida say involuntary

There really wasn’t any documentation process until the early 20th century anyway.

Ask the Naragannsetts. Oh yeah, they're ALL dead.

Easy. Are you a citizen or a dreamer.

Dave Rubin: *reads about Ernst Röhm Dave Rubin: sucks to be him but I’m different

His hatred of Muslims is what led to him splitting from TYT.

He made his bed, with sheets made of hundred dollar bills. He will put up with the hate for the money. Besides they won't go after his marriage and kids until after those pesky trans people are taken care of. Or so he hopes.

@@52flyingbicycles You had me up until Dave Rubin reading

Conservatives reject a fundamental piece of his identity beyond his control (gay) while liberals reject something that he chooses to be (racist). If you are thinking "which of these is more moral" then it makes sense to be confused. You correctly conclude that it is more moral to judge someone for their character (the way liberals judge him for his character) rather than for their identity (the way conservatives judge him by his identity). You in your daily life evaluate things by what is more moral so it is natural for you to assume that Dave would do the same. There is a flaw in your reasoning, however. The flaw is in assuming that Dave is making an incorrect moral evaluation. He is not. In reality he is not making any moral evaluation but instead evaluating which group would be easier for him to live with. If he chooses to live with liberals they will confront him on his racism. If the chooses to live with conservatives they will confront him on being gay. He would rather be hated for being gay because then at least he can comfort himself by saying "well being gay is beyond my control so no use feeling bad about that" whereas he does not have that coping mechanism available when being confronted on his racism as being racist is well within his control. If he was constantly confronted on that he would have to feel bad about being racist and he does not want to feel bad. What at first appears to be hypocrisy is instead a logical extension of having different fundamental frameworks of thought. This is the case for many other "conservative hypocrisies" as well. They are not being inconsistent but rather they are instead being consistent within different frameworks.

I thought for a long time that the Dave Rubin show was part of the Daily Wire.

Beat me to it

​@@davidfuentes9957 He wishes

It pays to be paid by billionaires

He says that from what is clearly a chair in front of a green screen. Seems a little pot-kettle to me.

You like paying taxes for illegal immigrants?

Arguably indentured servants were better off too, their contracts included clauses that their masters had to care for them, and they weren't under constant threat of deportation.

@@dakunssd Well, they were white, too. So there.

How many times does an immigration visa have to be reissued over 13 years, and what's the wait time look like for a citizenship application for someone who's been legally present and consistently employed for 13 years?

Meanwhile, the democrats were fighting to preserve slavery. 🤡

Yes why would Republicans object to millions of illegal immigrants becoming Democrat voters? It's so cruel.

Federal control of immigration did not start until the Immigration Act of 1891 was passed into law. These morons believe immigration laws are either in the constitution or have always existed.

They don’t want pathways to citizenship because the undocumented are a precarious, easily exploitable group. The status quo neither wants to secure the border nor streamline citizenship because our economy runs on the cheap labor of precarious people. They need the people, but they also stoke the xenophobia to try to make them keep their heads down.

This is truth, undocumented immigrants are needed to fill contracted low paying jobs and there is no easy way out of the hole the US throws them in. It takes generations to get out of a system created to abuse them for labor.

Nice philosophy class. Why not just make it harder to sneak across the border LOL

Excellent point.

The people who set up the laws created them illegally or at least unjustly. Claiming territory they dont own, then making up laws to say who can and who cannot come to this land. Total hypocrisy

@@highdesertbikerby that logic every nation in the world is by nature “hypocritical” and its laws can be ignored. You are full of ignorance. It’s sad.

@@MMMMMMMMMMMPGive me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...That's what our country was founded on. That's how our railroads were built. It's sad you are so hateful against people that came here "illegally" . If you were poor and starving in Mexico, how are you going to afford the education and legal requirements to get into this country. People have no issues hiring illegals to clean their homes

@@MMMMMMMMMMMP I know way more than you about this topic and would gladly debate you since you think I'm ignorant. For a long time slavery was legal in this country, then guess what? People said we are going to stand up, unite, and change the law. It's called democracy.

Maybe because Germany and England don't have huge problems with crime, poverty, etc that Latin American countries do?

@ZombieTomato Thanks for explaining why we should let them in ma’am.

@@ZombieTomato And illegals commit fewer crimes than citizens.

​@@ZombieTomato damn I wonder if that has anything to do with a century of US involvement and is a huge factor in why immigrants are coming here 🤔

​@@ZombieTomatoAnd you typed that without putting two and two together as to why someone would want to leave such an environment or country. But you got that own in didn't you, because that's all that matters, even if it falls apart as soon as you look deeper.

Dave Rubin says that all the nasty things the Europeans did to the native peoples were "coming here legally." These people are a joke.

@@Kevin_2435 In Dave’s mind, we arrived, made friends with the locals, and then all the native Americans disappeared.

@@onmike7944 Yep just by magic. He clearly never got past the kindergarten version of the first Thanksgiving. I've seen the woodcuts depicting the indigenous people's heads on spikes while the Puritans ate and celebrated their victory. They don't show those to you in elementary school.

Voting rights for one

It’s a good question. Who are all these young men flooding into Europe and America going to fck ?

Incredibly homophobic comment.

When one thinks about it, it is a bit weird. My grandma came to from Sicily, her family got on a boat that went to America. I am only guessing but the probably gave her a health check asked her and her family few questions and just let them in. I am sure there.was some red tape to become a citizen but I doubt it as much as there is now.

No, he surrounds himself with libertarians. Most libertarians believe that Europeans didn't steal North America because Native Americans didn't adequately "homestead" the land to the point where they could claim ownership. So the land was only officially owned (by the magical official universal law of property rights) when Europeans claimed ownership. It's all BS but that's their excuse. Basically it's their way of saying "my white ancestors owned their property legitimately and government has no right to challenge that right in any way and indigenous people have no legitimate claim so I'm not a hypocrite."

@@zacg_ These days libertarians tend to say the quiet part out loud and go straight to "Survival of the fittest, Baby!"

@@katelynmeaghan3410 that's true but a lot will still pretend they have some kind of pure rational self-evident philosophy. As to the survival of the fittest, I once heard of clip of Murray Rothbard (the godfather of the ANCAP movement) say that humans have no business trying to fight for the rights of animals in any way and that if animals want any protections of any kind then it's their responsibility to fight for those rights. And he wasn't just talking about opposing PETA or anyone who is against the meat industry. He was talking about people pushing to prevent the extinction of species such as pandas and so on.

All these haters (literal) should go to Ellis island today and learn some history.

It might be some sort of allusion as well to the Grand Wizard of the KKK, since right wingers keep trying to say the left are the 'real' racists.

Damn, you smart.

Not true.

The Rubin Report is astroturfed into oblivion, just like so many of these right wing shill channels

That excludes podcasting, where he's in the top 50 for US listens.

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You showed them when you moved back to Africa though, right?

@@ryanhubbard1885 nah we’re still waiting for them to pay for our flights back to the motherland. thanks for inquiring.

@@Angie-mk1vf oh just waiting for someone else to take care of you? Yea that doesn’t sound lazy.

@@ryanhubbard1885 they brought us here right? they can take us back if they don’t want us☺️

There is no point denying it is occurring. At this point you either support it and view it positively, oppose it and view it negatively or you deny it and everybody knows you're a liar.

@@pai8817 our country is becoming more diverse is a fact. Yes. U r correct. The contention and the conspiracy is over its intentionality. Is it a secret plot to...well there's multiple theories. A Jewish plot to replace the white man with black and brown people, that one is obviously just nazi bs. A Democrat plot to bring in folks they believe will vote for them because they aren't popular amongst the domestic population.....except for the fact the GOP has only won a single popular vote in my whole life. So that one is bunk. Unless you argue that the Democrats have been doing this successfully for 35+ years. Only folks arguing great replacement back that far was the KKK....so not sure if u want to make that argument. But yea u get the point

@@pai8817 Is there any real proof of it happening?

I know. Silly. A CNN article talked to migrants at Eagle Pass AZ(?). Most were women who told their stories. One was woman fleeing Cuba. Many brought kids.

Por que no las dos?

Who didn't want him to have kids? The boogeyman?

His own supporters. Try to keep up ma'am@@aquamanvonfloozerhoffen5067

@@aquamanvonfloozerhoffen5067homophobic conservatives

Name one. @@maxkrystal7403

"these" people would be the first hint. the second would be assuming that they didnt have as much of a right to be here as anyone else. the third would be the unwillingness to create solutions to the issue of illegality that doesnt involve either keeping them out completely, or deporting them when they are found to be illegal. most of the undocumented people in this country DID come here legally via work visas; they just never renewed them. now tell me whats wrong with just giving people citizenship with no hoops to jump through; the only qualification being that you arent part of a criminal organization?

He would be the one asking

⁠​⁠@@wilcee238he wouldn’t get the chance to answer before Sam popped up and ratted him out like a “good Jew.”

@@wilcee238 would he?

@@ryanhubbard1885 Haha! Classic!

you think they want to ban american companies like facebook and whatnot because of competition? are you fucking serious?

The clickbait worked on you, didn't it?

Mediocrity might be too kind for ol Dave. That was sweet of you.

@@rileyfuckingrifle haha

Where are your ancestors from?

@zivkovicable I can only imagine your replying because you just woke your illegal immigrants for the breakfast you just whipped up...

The quiet part being something people have been talking about out loud for years.