Best BUDGET 85mm? - NEW Yongnuo Vs Sony Vs Samyang Vs Viltrox comprehensive review

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Dave McKeegan

Dave McKeegan

Күн бұрын

What is the best budget 85mm prime lens for Sony E-mount?
In this video we compare the Sony, Samyang, Viltrox & Yongnuo offerings.
Links:
Sony - geni.us/Sony85
Samyang - geni.us/Samyang85
Viltrox II - viltroxstore.com/products/vil...
Yongnuo - www.hkyongnuo.com/productinfo...
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
2:51 - Build & features
10:40 - Image Sharpness
14:00 - Chromatic Aberrations
14:44 - Vignetting
16:06 - Bokeh
16:56 - Distortion
17:51 - Autofocus
23:14 - Price
24:23 - Conclusions
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@mentorsway
@mentorsway 2 жыл бұрын
The Viltrox version II is an amazing lens, especially for the price. I recommend it. And they regularly update the firmware.
@ciaochow4205
@ciaochow4205 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, keep it up. Good to see Yongnuo offering more choice (value) esp. for the hobbyist, Viltrox has been on my radar already
@trouwfotomakerij
@trouwfotomakerij 3 жыл бұрын
Good video Dave, well worth the wait :) Yongnuo has surprised me a lot too, with flash guns, triggers and lenses. Especially for those pieces of gear that you don't use enough to justify large investments, it's a brand to certainly consider.
@keshibhalla
@keshibhalla 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Very rich in data.
@trouwfotomakerij
@trouwfotomakerij 3 жыл бұрын
18:50 - The images we were waiting for :-)
@rutaemilija8653
@rutaemilija8653 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the review I needed. So torn given that I need reliable auto-AF for moving subjects but not willing to splurge on the Batis.
@Leonard2077Zenee
@Leonard2077Zenee 3 жыл бұрын
I love the manual focus ring on the viltrox mark 2! And this one has weatherseal. +Update possibility on the lens.
@smoronikaofficial7415
@smoronikaofficial7415 11 ай бұрын
very helpful video Thank You
@RusiruRupasinghe
@RusiruRupasinghe Жыл бұрын
Very Well done! Thank you.
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 3 жыл бұрын
Much thanks for the exhaustive comparison! In your comparison of F1.8 vs F1.4 portrait @25:00, I actually preferred the F1.8 aperture over F1.4, where the ear was blurred out so much, that it didn't seem to belong to the head anymore. I realize you can mitigate that by changing other variables besides the aperture, but yeah, I wouldn't even want to get close to anything that's part of the subject's head turning into Boke. Maybe I should just get a 50mm F1.4 instead of the 85mm . . . . what do you think?
@creativework2506
@creativework2506 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this compairison!!!
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, hope you found it useful 😊
@ronaldconiglio9942
@ronaldconiglio9942 2 жыл бұрын
This was helpful. Thank you.
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it
@tonyjedioftheforest1364
@tonyjedioftheforest1364 3 жыл бұрын
I have the manual Samyang 85 1.4 which I believe is the same optical construction as the newer version. I use it on my full frame Canons and think it is excellent and an absolute bargain.
@MarcelVolker
@MarcelVolker 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting that you mention the hood of the Samyang as not attaching very firmly... Could that be wear? Or copy variation? Because mine actually fits really tight and takes a bit of effort to click into place. Rock solid.
@anthonyparsons4743
@anthonyparsons4743 3 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at 85mm len3s for my nikon 1 via an adapter many thank for this video fingers crossed I can invest soon in 1 of the lenses
@stuffnuns
@stuffnuns 3 жыл бұрын
Oo, I want that 2/3 stop of extra speed, the Rokinon/Samyang.
@udaproductions2
@udaproductions2 3 жыл бұрын
The Yongnuo is listed for $250 US right now on B&H. That's a great price for an amateur to the semi-pro photographer! I recently bought a used Sigma 85mm 1.4 and I love it, but if not this would be my lens to use for now.
@MattTrevett
@MattTrevett 6 ай бұрын
So I got the Yongnuo v2 and it's just fantastic. 100% perfect? No. But so good wide open. Sharp with good character. The autofocus is really good (but not perfect) in continuous mode. They replaced the plastic outer shell with a metal barrel. For $250-$280 it's great.
@hushni
@hushni 29 күн бұрын
Really? In my region, that lens is cost like $120 if brand new.. $90 if used, depends on conditions ofc..
@MattTrevett
@MattTrevett 29 күн бұрын
@@hushni Nice! Don't know if the prices changed but that was directly on the manufacturer website. It's possible there are resellers with lower prices.
@alchemist_x79
@alchemist_x79 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Sony 85 1.8 and love it. It's become a very useful landscape lens to get that nice compression effect, especially for woodland photography. Ialmost went for the Samyang instead because of the 1.4 in low light or when I do street photography. Having to spend more money on a dock if I wanted to update the firmware however turned me off from it. Sometimes I think I should've gotten the Viltrox instead, especially knowing it can be tricked into being an f/1.6 lens. (I dunno if that goes for the v2 or not though.)
@alexanderstrekalov7470
@alexanderstrekalov7470 6 ай бұрын
As far as I understand, this does not apply to the second version
@ajschot
@ajschot 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Now let's do the 35 1.8's ;)
@FuadBerhan
@FuadBerhan 3 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. However in my country the sony is only around $480 ,the Samyang is around $640 and the Viltrox v2 at around $350. I will definitely pick the Samyang if the price difference is only $20-$50
@pianoman1973
@pianoman1973 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thorough review- would love if you added to a comparison to the DG DN Sigma 1.4 lens as well :)
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
I probably will if I'm ever fortune enough to get hold of the Sigma 😊
@pianoman1973
@pianoman1973 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaveMcKeegan thanks :)
@maenkarchipay1722
@maenkarchipay1722 Жыл бұрын
Hi pro man. I used viltrox 85 and its the best in budget😋😋.Collaborate with you in future😍
@gonzaloleviatanh
@gonzaloleviatanh 3 жыл бұрын
Got the Samyang for £400 last Black Friday. Love it
@YogaLifeEtc
@YogaLifeEtc Ай бұрын
First time watching.....SUB from me!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@3Ddunk
@3Ddunk 3 жыл бұрын
I have the samyang manual lens 85mm F1.4 it’s a great lens, for a year now been thinking of upgrading to a af
@Miracle_chiedoze
@Miracle_chiedoze 3 жыл бұрын
Really I am thinking of purchasing the manual lens but don't know if it will be sharp enough for stunning portrait, as I use an APS-C Nikon D3300 body, please what do you think of the sharpness of your lens the Samyang 85mm f1.4 manual focus?
@riz6392
@riz6392 3 жыл бұрын
@@Miracle_chiedozemake some search now new available zenitar 85 from Russia.
@jimgraves4197
@jimgraves4197 3 жыл бұрын
Well done for showing that budget gear doesn't have to be totally awful. To be fair to the Chinese manufacturers they have been improving their own stuff recently.
@danev1969
@danev1969 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful review, thank you. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would assume that all of the auto-focusing instructions between the camera and the lens comes from the camera. Obviously, how good the lens' firmware and speed of the focusing motor(s) ability to respond is what separates one lens from the other. The implication is that Sony makes their lens to perfectly(?) respond to those instructions and much of that is proprietary.
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
The lens has software inside as it needs to be able to take what the camera is asking it to do and rely that to the motors etc Hence why lenses have the ability of firmware updates, not just the cameras For some cameras the lens manufacturers have to physically reverse engineer the cameras autofocus software to try and make the lens compatible
@mikey7326
@mikey7326 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant work, ta.
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mikey :)
@lewkon
@lewkon 3 жыл бұрын
Samyang came out with a 75mm f1.8 - not an 85, but could be a great alternative. Image quality is supposedly high, weight and price - low :)
@chrissoba5104
@chrissoba5104 Жыл бұрын
Can i use this Meike 85mm on Blackmagic 4k ?
@desbarry8414
@desbarry8414 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Viltrox Z mount 85mm for my Nikon Z5 it cost me £275 new, a no brainer!!
@GamingInfested
@GamingInfested Жыл бұрын
samyang.. ever since I got first gen 85 never looked to other lens maker
@cevxj
@cevxj Жыл бұрын
fantastic
@riz6392
@riz6392 3 жыл бұрын
hi where is Russian zenitar and Helios 85mm f1.5 new
@bluezikylez9743
@bluezikylez9743 3 жыл бұрын
test tokina atx 85?
@Miracle_chiedoze
@Miracle_chiedoze 3 жыл бұрын
New yongn...very outstanding image sharpness and at 272 dollars kills giants
@trouwfotomakerij
@trouwfotomakerij 3 жыл бұрын
12:45 The images from the Samyang seem yellow-ish, compared to the others, is that your WB-setting? 13:48 - Never mind. Spoke too soon :-D
@Issvor
@Issvor 3 жыл бұрын
I bought that same viltrox lens last November and my only complaint with it is that it would not connect to my computer. I thought it would be a problem, but I havent had any issues with performance with my a6400. Hell, maybe I would have even better performance if I update the firmware, but man its a beast already and I haven't even thought about it until now
@thefamzijlstra6797
@thefamzijlstra6797 3 жыл бұрын
I I had the same problem with te Viltrox tried 4 different usb cables and with the last one it connected to my computer. Updating was a breeze.
@Issvor
@Issvor 3 жыл бұрын
@@thefamzijlstra6797 oh alright, I'll have to give it a shot again. Thanks
@danniel0143
@danniel0143 3 жыл бұрын
In your af test. Which autofocus settings did you use with the running and dog?
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
For running they were set to AF-C (with priority set to focus) - focus area set to "wide" with eye-AF enable For the dog I switched the focus area down to "zone" and switch eye-AF from human to animal
@joffreyvidal6964
@joffreyvidal6964 Жыл бұрын
I wish they have meike 85mm too because it's super cheap
@stans5270
@stans5270 3 жыл бұрын
I just checked out the Yongnuo site and they seem to have a firmware update already. Perhaps that will correct the moving subject issue.
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stan I'll take a look into this and see what version the lens was sent to me with.
@mexmax1657
@mexmax1657 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaveMcKeegan And did it fix the AF problems?
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
@@mexmax1657 Unfortunately not it seems, even with the firmware update the lens is still slow to react to moving subjects
@mexmax1657
@mexmax1657 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaveMcKeegan ok. So the Sony it will be for me. Thanks. :)
@maciej5887
@maciej5887 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveMcKeegan any changes by now?
@HighlyAkicktive
@HighlyAkicktive 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Samyang AF 85mm f1.4 and think it's a fantastic lens for the money. Only drawback: you have to go through a couple of copies to find a really good one, variance is big. But the one I found is really sharp in the middle wide open and even corners are already really clear at 1.4. Also the bokeh is really smooth and pleasing
@sulev111
@sulev111 3 жыл бұрын
I got a bad focusing turd :P
@pixiedust1273
@pixiedust1273 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know this was an issue. I guess I got lucky. Mine is great.
@sulev111
@sulev111 3 жыл бұрын
@@pixiedust1273 yup, luck. I sold mine and got the sony 85/1.8. AF suddenly works perfectly.
@JayfunFilms
@JayfunFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Alex Caruso?
@parasinthephilippines
@parasinthephilippines 3 жыл бұрын
Sigma have just released the new 85m f1.4. That peaks my interest. Either that or the 85 GM.
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
Both look like great lenses however aren't really what you'd consider 'budget' 😊
@parasinthephilippines
@parasinthephilippines 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaveMcKeegan I love the Sigma glass and I would consider that as a budget lense. Maybe my own viewpoint is skewed a little but I don't believe in owning a top end camera and putting shite glass on it. 3x A7s111 on order and Im building my glass as we speak.
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with having good glass for a good sensor, however I would say there is a difference between a lens being a budget lens, and being within your budget. I.e. if you look at all the 85mm's available for the E-mount, the GM is right up at the high end of the list and the Sigma isn't that far behind them, so no doubt great lenses but certainly on the higher end of the price spectrum against the competition and probably out of many people's price range
@MrChrissk
@MrChrissk 3 жыл бұрын
If you check out Peter Lindgren review of the samyang 85mm f1.4 he actually believes that the samyang is sharper wide open than the Sony 85mm GM lens. I have used the 100-400 GM and done direct comparison while using my sigma 150-600mm sport, and honestly can't justify the extra £1400 as the image quality is not that much better. Also used a Canon 400 f2.8. Think a lot of these big expensive lenses are very overrated in my opinion.
@MrChrissk
@MrChrissk 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, yes the lens hood is very flimsy. I have used the lens at a car track day and was not to bad. Plenty of static car images on my Instagram taken using the samyang 85mm f1.4 if people want to have a look. CSKnowles Photography
@ciaochow4205
@ciaochow4205 3 жыл бұрын
Photorumours (Aug 25, 2020) had pegged the price of the Yongnuo at a price of $200 USD
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
They'd also rumoured in May it would $100 🤣 I believe the only official mentions of price at the time were for the Asian market, probably in the local currency as well and the rumour sites have estimated the price based on exchange rates
@ciaochow4205
@ciaochow4205 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaveMcKeegan Wow, $100 would have been too good to be true LOL,
@vincentnavea6999
@vincentnavea6999 Жыл бұрын
Id rather have metal focus rings as rubber loosens in time
@mitcho8666
@mitcho8666 3 жыл бұрын
just bought yongnuo online for 202 euro :) looking forward to trying it
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
Bargain, hope you enjoy it :)
@roman9509
@roman9509 10 ай бұрын
Tokina 1.8/85
@onlyonecannoli3952
@onlyonecannoli3952 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for actually making some real recommendations and not acting like an equivocating nancy-boy like most other reviewers.
@roybush1
@roybush1 3 жыл бұрын
I have the viltrox 85mm mk1 and agree it’s reasonable but did you do the firmware updates it has re focusing and taking it down in aperture down to f1.6 I think ?
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it has the new firmware to improve the focusing The F1.6 isn't an official firmware improvement but rather a glitch you can force into the lens during a firmware up, however it's unknown if there are any potential side effects of doing this
@danielcacitti7269
@danielcacitti7269 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing review I'd be super interested in having something similar for the 35mm, sigma, sony, samyang etc... However i'm.a bit confused between the samyang and yongnuo when you said they're best value for (non moving) portraiture.
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
With regards to portraiture, the Samyang is priced very similar to the Sony but the big advantage for the Sony is autofocus where as the Samyang has better image quality, so if your subject is static then the Samyang is the better option in my opinion However if your budget doesn't stretch that far then between the Viltrox and the Yongnuo (again where AF isn't a big factor) then the Yongnuo is almost as good as the Viltrox but is significantly cheaper, which for me makes its the better value option
@91krarup
@91krarup 3 жыл бұрын
Would you take the samyang over the Sony 1.8 for wedding?
@DaveMcKeegan
@DaveMcKeegan 3 жыл бұрын
I'd probably favour the Samyang over the Sony for the more pleasing rendering, although the Sony AF has been useful during weddings for me in the past
@thomaskirkness-little5809
@thomaskirkness-little5809 3 жыл бұрын
Every lens test should involve a dog.
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