David Lynch's Straight Story + Rambo | Two Veteran Tales

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Maggie Mae Fish

Maggie Mae Fish

3 жыл бұрын

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Join me, Maggie Mae Fish (she/her) as I explore the themes of the first Rambo movie (First Blood) and David Lynch's quietly beautiful film, The Straight Story. I'm joined by my friend, and veteran, Cristian Ramirez (he/him) who gives us some insights into his experiences in the Army, and with the VA.
Link to the full interview with Cristian here: • Interview with US Army...
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Movies referenced:
First Blood (1982)
The Straight Story (1999)
Hot Shots: Part Deux (1993)
UHF (1989)
Blue Velvet (1986)
Ran (1985)
Star Wars A New Hope (1977)
Mulan (1998)
Rocky III (1982)
Spider-Man (2002)
The Matrix (1999)
Eraserhead (1977)
Dune (1984)
Rambo: First Blood Part 2 (1985)
Rambo Last Blood (2019)
Photos:
- Alvin Straight newspaper photos via (respectively) James Schnepf, Gay Pope, AP -- all under Fair Use
- Student Vietnam War protesters
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- Abraham Lincoln Brigade Vietnam War Protesters
Public Domain - White House Photograph Office
- Vietnam War protest in Washington DC April 1971
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vaporwave visuals by Fasiha Rauf @trippydreamer
This video is part of the series Maggie Talks About Movies

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@MaggieMaeFish
@MaggieMaeFish 3 жыл бұрын
Watch the full interview with US Army veteran Cristian Ramirez here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9yFodeGrtLSco0.html
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 3 жыл бұрын
I could have sworn you said Krishnan Ramirez.
@bladeshad
@bladeshad 3 жыл бұрын
at 10:20 you say rambo is a white male super-soldier. RAMBO ISN'T WHITE!!!! Rambo is first nations Indian. he's from the mohawk tribe!!! he s not a super soldier, he is a regular human with not super human powers. he is just a guy.
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 3 жыл бұрын
@@bladeshad His ethnicity is only mentioned in the second film. They retconned him as half Turtle Islander and half-German. Because he was like great with a bow and it sounds cool, yeah? If you can find an iota of that ethnicity reflected in any aspect of the films I would be interested to hear of it.
@spiritualanarchist8162
@spiritualanarchist8162 3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure the parable comes from a Japanese movie ? The one sticks being weak, and many sticks becoming strong parable was used in the Roman Empire, and is a symbol used by it's legions, it's called a ' Fasci '. Ironically the word Fascism is based on this symbol, and Mussolini and Franco used it as a national symbol during their reign. . (..But that's another story altogether . )
@johnny196775
@johnny196775 3 жыл бұрын
I really loved your channel. I was so happy when I watched an earlier video and you used, politely, the term "LGBT." I appreciated that more than I can tell you. Which is why I was so disappointed when you used the Q-word slur at the end of this video... Some people think they are taking back the language when they invite straight people to use it, but they aren't... they are simply normalizing the use of a slur many in the community who fought for gay rights in the 80's and 90's - when it wasn't the walk in the park it has been since then - find very hurtful. I won't be able to watch your channel any more and I find that more depressing than I can tell you. After fighting for dignity and respect, I have it stripped away from me by young people who didn't have to fight for their rights and who exclude people like me from my own community when they do so... very hurtful. I can't tell you how saddened I am by this.
@averyjeanne
@averyjeanne 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see an In Conversation about Pan’s Labyrinth and Jojo Rabbit. They are obviously two very different films, with very different tones. But they both explore how war is viewed through the eyes of a child in very interesting ways.
@dnys_7827
@dnys_7827 3 жыл бұрын
oh my god this is such a good idea thank you for planting this connection in my brain
@maximeteppe7627
@maximeteppe7627 3 жыл бұрын
O_o Please... Make it happen!
@FunnyAnimatoFilms
@FunnyAnimatoFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful suggestion
@michellebrowne9100
@michellebrowne9100 3 жыл бұрын
Seconded!
@Haysey_Draws
@Haysey_Draws 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know i wanted this until you mentioned it!
@Xondar11223344
@Xondar11223344 3 жыл бұрын
Only David Lynch could make a movie with a straightforward narrative plot and as few formalist elements as possible and call it his "most experimental film."
@sholem_bond
@sholem_bond 3 жыл бұрын
well, maybe he meant "experimental - for me."
@Xondar11223344
@Xondar11223344 3 жыл бұрын
@@sholem_bond Yeah, I think so too, I love it nonetheless. :D
@Jackp2003
@Jackp2003 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not very straightforward
@aaronkelly1762
@aaronkelly1762 7 ай бұрын
Maggie clearly missed the point of the scene about the sticks though. It's not a reference to Japanese King Lear, it's an old man comforting a teenager.
@Fangtorn
@Fangtorn 3 жыл бұрын
The ending to Return of the Jedi makes me cry. When Luke cuts off his father's robot hand, then looks at his own robot hand, and finally throws down his lightsaber I get choked up. He doesn't defeat the Emperor by being really good at swinging his laser sword around, he defeats him by not giving in to his fear and aggression, and appealing to his father's better nature. Then when Darth Vader looks from the Emperor to his dying son, and back again, and finally throws the Emperor down the well, I'm balling.
@praetentious2925
@praetentious2925 3 жыл бұрын
This is why Return of the Jedi is my favorite Star Wars. To me the most emotional part of the series, this man saving his father’s soul and how that is what brings the galaxy a new hope.
@lukeh2556
@lukeh2556 3 жыл бұрын
To me this is why the last Jedi works because when Luke returns and single handedly saves the resistance and reignites hope across the galaxy he does so in a way that is exactly not swinging around his laser sword real good
@michellebrowne9100
@michellebrowne9100 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's underrated.
@samaelmalkira9420
@samaelmalkira9420 3 жыл бұрын
That's my favourite part of the O Trilogy, favourite part of the Sequels is Finn saying "rebel scum" Both give me the same reaction
@Xondar11223344
@Xondar11223344 3 жыл бұрын
There are some really amazing moments in Return of the Jedi and George Lucas had to go Lucas it up by putting in Ewoks.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 3 жыл бұрын
9:29 While it never returns to the black soldier's family, the poor state of their property suggests they've been screwed over by the system too. Plus, of course, the soldier died because of the government. The movie doesn't dwell on their plight, but at least it establishes the problem. And is it a surprise that the whitebread town has black families banished to the outskirts? To me, it feels sadly realistic and comes off as foreshadowing of what Rambo's going to encounter. (Like someone saying "Don't go to that cabin!" early in a horror movie.)
@3dartxsi
@3dartxsi 3 жыл бұрын
I find that the lack of diversity of the town and the incredibly violent way the police respond to even the slightest disruption that Rambo causes is an incredibly fitting portrayal of how white America has lived in a bubble and often violently opposes any attempt to disrupt that bubble, even if that disruption is the direct result of their own choices, especially in the 1980's.
@spacemanx9595
@spacemanx9595 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Felt like she dropped the ball there
@vizjim2
@vizjim2 3 жыл бұрын
"RAMBO: He just wanted something to eat." "TWIN PEAKS: They've got a cherry pie in there that'll kill you." Definite crossover potential.
@aestevalis0
@aestevalis0 3 жыл бұрын
I'd watch it. Throw in Mulder & Scully & you've got yourself a multi-series expanded universe.
@ConnerNielsen6
@ConnerNielsen6 3 жыл бұрын
“The Straight Story shows us that speaking can be a powerful act.” Damn, that’s a good observation. That’s going to stick with me for a long time.
@goodial
@goodial 2 жыл бұрын
That Jaws moment on the boat is another good example for that :)
@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks
@IsaacMayerCreativeWorks 3 жыл бұрын
ok but now I want to see a video comparing the Great Gatsby and “You’re a Good Man Charlie Brown”
@victora.colonna7474
@victora.colonna7474 3 жыл бұрын
"You're a Good Gatsby, Charlie Brown"?
@SayHelloHelli
@SayHelloHelli 3 жыл бұрын
Is daisy yanking the football or is she the football lol
@isabelstewart8443
@isabelstewart8443 3 жыл бұрын
@@victora.colonna7474 *“You’re an Old Sport, Charlie Brown”
@wills_helm
@wills_helm 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 3 жыл бұрын
In the book the sheriff is a Korean War veteran there was animosity between Vietnam veterans and World War 2 and Korean War veterans. Since we failed to meet our military objectives in Vietnam they were oftentimes seen as losers especially as compared to World War 2 veterans.
@phangkuanhoong7967
@phangkuanhoong7967 3 жыл бұрын
so fascists VS fascists. nice.
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions 3 жыл бұрын
Korean War veterans were weirdly fixated on Vietnam veterans. Korea was a conflict started as basically a self-promotion tour by Macarthur that he then basically completely lost, basically as futile and pointless a war as Vietnam. Blasting Vietnam veterans for losing was a way for Korea veterans to externalise the shame of having lost a pointless war, and the more people were angry about Vietnam the more quickly they forgot the Korean War.
@marianotorrespico2975
@marianotorrespico2975 3 жыл бұрын
@@UnreasonableOpinions --- Excellent and truthful observations. Thank you. Also, those are great eyeglass frames!
@RD-lt3ht
@RD-lt3ht 3 жыл бұрын
The original novel by David Morrel is excellent, and First Blood the movie -- while really good -- still doesn't capture the depths of the book -- I even felt for the sheriff as he ultimately felt for Rambo -- that empathic connection they had, almost supernatural in parts.
@stephennootens916
@stephennootens916 3 жыл бұрын
The Korean war is interesting when you think about how politicians sell a war as spread democracy. South Korea spent a good time under military control and only became a true democracy later and Vietnam is still load and proud commies. Really the only two wins we had were Germany and Japan and really all we did was tweaked the constitutions they had before they went off the tracks.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 3 жыл бұрын
I interview a lot of veterans about their experiences in the US Army - most often wartime experiences but not always. When it comes to war vets I find the Vietnam vets are the most open, blunt - if they’re willing to sit down in the first place they likely made their peace for the most part long ago, vets from the 1980’s to early 90’s are also straight shooters but that’s mostly operational stuff, War on Terror vets are an eclectic bunch and it’s a whole range of different attitudes and experiences but mostly it’s just hard to find one willing or able to take the time for an oral history in the first place. The most challenging to interview are the WWII/Korea vets. They’ll agree to an interview, we’ll go through the process, the research phase, everything will be fine and then when it’s time to conduct the interview - which are often dry affairs more reminiscent of a fact-finding venture - it all comes pouring out, because often this is the first time they’ve even spoken about it - period. They know they’ll be gone soon and they want to leave a record, so they push themselves to do it and surprise themselves with how emotionally taxing it is to ruminate on these experiences. I get asked a lot of tough questions in return during those interviews. Ones that don’t necessarily have answers. I get the feeling being able to ask those questions aloud means more to them than any answer I could give them. WWII historiography is a history of the world’s largest conflict overwhelmingly dominated by the input of relatively few of its participants. Perhaps not coincidentally it’s of the most mythologized and mischaracterized conflicts. Shaped by narrative and media, ruled by iconography and aesthetic - and seldom really understood on an individual level.
@MEDPR0S
@MEDPR0S Жыл бұрын
I always found it necessary to talk about this stuff, to avoid letting it eat us up and to fight the stigmas. Something more commonplace coming from Healthcare-side. My grandpa didnt start talking about Vietnam until I enlisted. Think through that he found a battle buddy to confide in again. The little I knew beforehand was enough to be proud of him for. The hell he divulged later and about his medic was enough for me (a medic by chance) to be proud of myself for. [And honestly, in the War on Terror era, its sometimes hard to find things to be proud of yourself for. At least in my case. The motivations for even joining, outside of tradition I later found out I guess I started, are murky.]
@gifthuizlikegod
@gifthuizlikegod 3 жыл бұрын
The Straight Story is the reason I can tell people my 6th grade teacher showed a David Lynch film in class. We also read and watched the Lottery that year, that teacher was awesome.
@WallebyDamned
@WallebyDamned 2 жыл бұрын
My freshman English teacher showed The Lottery every year without the class reading the story or being given any plot points. I had seen the play so I knew what to expect, so I got to watch my classmates go from bored to confused to horrified once they learned it wasn't a cash prize. I really liked that teacher.
@edithprince5305
@edithprince5305 3 жыл бұрын
So fucking glad someone is talking about the straight story. Such an underrated classic. My family watches it every thanksgiving
@kinchlmi
@kinchlmi 3 жыл бұрын
my stepdad was a Vietnam vet and watching The Straight Story with him one day was like the only time I ever saw him cry at a movie. And a movie whose ending always makes me cry...there's probably better answers I can't recall right now but the ending of Punch Drunk Love always gets me emotional.
@Matrim42
@Matrim42 3 жыл бұрын
One thing about Rambo that the movie First Blood misses, because Sly Stallone was in his mid-30s at the time, is that he was a kid. He was in his very early 20s during the story, and most of the stuff he did in Vietnam he did when he was a teenager. That fact really puts a different light on his actions.
@vanilloia7479
@vanilloia7479 3 жыл бұрын
wonder if that was because the movie was conceived as a stallone-vehicle, or if it was like the hunger games movies, no one wants to see baby faced kids do terrible violence
@1BlessEdYou
@1BlessEdYou 3 жыл бұрын
I refuse to believe anything even remotely positive ever came out of MK Ultra, which is why I believe Maggie was born with the power of Astral projection.
@praetentious2925
@praetentious2925 3 жыл бұрын
However she was born, I want to know Can we clone her? An army of Maggie Mae fishes might be just what humanity needs. The original lyrics to the Beatles song were “all we need is love...and an army of Maggie Mae fish clones.”
@tombrown407
@tombrown407 3 жыл бұрын
I lost it at Dune being 50% Lynch. This seems entirely self evident but I can't fully explain why.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's because Dune is Lynch being Lynch, but within the confines of a very traditional and tropey 'magic boy hero' narrative. (And yes, I know the novel is complicated, but the movie really streamlined the plot and removed most of the nuance.)
@kellyloganme
@kellyloganme 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe because most of the weirdness came from the original elements of the story which he just 'Lynched up' a bit, like making Baron Leto particularly grotesque...
@Xondar11223344
@Xondar11223344 3 жыл бұрын
I would actually say Twin Peaks is 50% Lynch, with the Return being 75% Lynch, but the chart was amazing and I love it.
@tsukasa0802
@tsukasa0802 3 жыл бұрын
Akira Kurosawa's Ikiru really hits me. The futility of working within the system, the way it just grinds people and their motivation down to nothing. 50/50 chance I cry or spiral into enui for a week.
@JackgarPrime
@JackgarPrime 3 жыл бұрын
Kurosawa's films still hit in such strong ways.
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions 3 жыл бұрын
​@@JackgarPrime They also feel very modern, particularly when compared to movies from the era or even decades later.
@dipperdandy
@dipperdandy 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that one can be a rough one to watch. In a good way, I mean.
@TheMaestroso
@TheMaestroso 3 жыл бұрын
This film took me by surprise, and I've gotta agree. Shimura's performance is soooo good, as always.
@Xondar11223344
@Xondar11223344 3 жыл бұрын
@@JackgarPrime His noir film Stray Dog, about a police detective losing his gun, is so good. It made me realize that there is a lot of noir influence in Kurosawa's movies.
@hugo59208
@hugo59208 3 жыл бұрын
For 2 seconds i thought david lynch directed a rambo movie,which would be quite an event 😂
@averyjeanne
@averyjeanne 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea if that would be the best or worst movie ever.
@marreco6347
@marreco6347 3 жыл бұрын
In a better alternative reality, David Linch directed Rambo and Jodorowsky Dune. And covid wasn't a thing, I guess.
@ryanahr2267
@ryanahr2267 3 жыл бұрын
The movie that always kicks my emotions in the dangly parts is Coco. I am not Hispanic, but my grandmother did spend the last seven years of her life losing more and more of her mind to dementia. The bit at the end where the protagonist makes sure that his grandma remembers her father, and her reacting so strongly and joyfully to it just breaks me every time. It made me start crying as I typed it out, even. Just...fuck the kinds of diseases that make people forget their loved ones and/or make them husks of their former selves.
@escher10000
@escher10000 3 жыл бұрын
"Daddy Bush" was surprisingly upsetting phrase to hear.
@jacobvardy
@jacobvardy 3 жыл бұрын
A big hug for the cthonic spirit that rules this site (the algorithm).
@HeydonHensley
@HeydonHensley 3 жыл бұрын
All praise the algorithm!
@dignerds
@dignerds 3 жыл бұрын
Oh please...this heifer is a waste of time
@timwindy7777
@timwindy7777 3 жыл бұрын
The ending of The Iron Giant gets me every time.
@charlesthebald3671
@charlesthebald3671 3 жыл бұрын
Time is a circle, nothing matters and we're in an infinite loop of terrible. Maggie Mae Fish 2021
@anthonywheeler2082
@anthonywheeler2082 3 жыл бұрын
The saddest movie I've ever seen was Grave of the Fireflies. It's about two kids in Japan during WW2. I guess it shouldn't be too surprising that so many war movies are actually sad.
@fpedrosa2076
@fpedrosa2076 3 жыл бұрын
I watched Grave of the Fireflies at an anime convention. I was not prepared. Second time I watched it was with a few friends at a small arthouse cinema screening and when I looked at the audience at the climax, there wasn't a dry eye in the audience. An amazing film, but so, so sad.
@anthonywheeler2082
@anthonywheeler2082 3 жыл бұрын
@@fpedrosa2076 Yeah, definitely.
@c.w.8200
@c.w.8200 3 жыл бұрын
For me it was especially hard watching this thinking all the time of my little sister, imagining us in that situation.
@anthonywheeler2082
@anthonywheeler2082 3 жыл бұрын
@@c.w.8200 That would be heavy.
@syntheticsilkwood2206
@syntheticsilkwood2206 Ай бұрын
​@@c.w.8200I watched it with my elder sister and she couldn't finish the whole movie It was too traumatizing for her
@RoseThePhoenix
@RoseThePhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Films that can't stand up to spoilers aren't strong ones.
@lnk2158
@lnk2158 3 жыл бұрын
I'd argue there are some films that are more emotionally resonant if you aren't spoiled, however. Ones like: The Conversation, Chinatown, Don't Look Now. It depends on genre. But mysteries are interactive and part of the first-time viewing experience is looking for clues that lead to the "surprising" ending.
@leviangel97
@leviangel97 3 жыл бұрын
So part of this is just about how people experience movies. I think about a movie that's been spoiled differently. I'm looking out for things and ocer-analyzing it. Also when I rewatch or reexperience an artistic work, I get a redo of how I felt the first time. If the first time was just hearing facts... there's not much. Tldr it's not just about the movie, movies just feel different if they've been spoiled for me.
@Xondar11223344
@Xondar11223344 3 жыл бұрын
I had the Sixth Sense spoiled for me and I found the movie boring. I can re-watch Se7en and still be entertained despite the fact I've seen it a million times.
@uekernas
@uekernas 3 жыл бұрын
Before looking up where The Straight Story can be streamed, I never imagined that a David Lynch movie would be on Disney+.
@blahblah3927
@blahblah3927 3 жыл бұрын
I love the inclusion of interviews in your lastest vidoes, really adds a broader experience to the discussion
@stevegruber4724
@stevegruber4724 3 жыл бұрын
So other than the fact that I was quasi-fascist in high school before joining the military, my reason for joining and post-military conversion to socialism are very similar to Christian's. I was on free lunch programs most of my time in school, we relied on a food bank for a few years, I'd messed around in high school too much and was afraid I wouldn't qualify for scholarships, had no marketable skills, so I had no idea what I was going to do after high school. The local recruiter had a deal with my high school that all of the juniors had to either take the day long military entrance exam (ASVAB: Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery) or sit in study hall for the whole day. I scored really well, so the recruiter called as played on all those prior uncertainties to convince me to enlist, so literally the day after my 17th birthday I was driven to the military entry center in San Diego an enlisted in the Navy (There is a delayed entry program, so although I enlisted half way through my senior year, I finished school and went to basic training that summer). My experience while in the military was similar also. I remember joking about how America's democracy was protected by a communist society, complete with a ruling class (the officers) with access to better food an housing, but who didn't do a damn bit of work. A couple of years ago, someone I had served with took his own life. He was still serving and was struggling with depression and alcoholism. In the aftermath of the tragedy, those of us who knew him formed a massive message group and vowed to reach out to the group any time we have the dark thoughts. It's become a place where we can share things that others just don't have context for. Reconnecting after 10 plus years was also how I found out I wasn't the only one to go socialist after the military. I think it's actually the more common path, especially for those of us from less-well-off backgrounds who saw just how much a little bit of help from the government improved our lives.
@MaggieMaeFish
@MaggieMaeFish 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this
@Rodrigo_Vega
@Rodrigo_Vega 3 жыл бұрын
Your story reflects exactly something I was thinking the interview in this video could have pointed out. Not only the military benefit from people inside it having access to social programs that are common for the civilian population in other countries. They also benefit from people outside _not_ having it. The alure of scholarships, etc. is a huge draw for recruitment. It's not that the US couldn't provide basic needs for it's citizens, it's that if they wouldn't have the threat of failure, homelessness, medical bills, young people would be much harder to coerce into life-threatening service abroad in a war they don't care about.
@cinemaocd1752
@cinemaocd1752 3 жыл бұрын
The Straight Story has some of the most honest, raw scenes of veterans ever on film. That these men are very, very old and the war was long ago, and the war we think of as "the good war" makes it all the more powerful.
@danamahr3773
@danamahr3773 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! MMF is back on track. After the best video essay I have seen in years... the Kraken!
@crazysnas181
@crazysnas181 3 жыл бұрын
"David Lynch movie you haven't seen" *See's The Straight Story* I feel called out. Fine. I'll watch it!
@casanovafunkenstein5090
@casanovafunkenstein5090 3 жыл бұрын
It's fantastic, highly recommended. It's very deliberate in its pacing but as a character study it's very interesting because pretty much everything has to be inferred through character moments and visual symbolism, with very little about the protagonist and his history being stated explicitly for the audience.
@crazysnas181
@crazysnas181 3 жыл бұрын
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 I watched it last night, it's an excellent movie by my favourite director
@casanovafunkenstein5090
@casanovafunkenstein5090 3 жыл бұрын
@@crazysnas181 glad you enjoyed it. I think it's really refreshing to see a film maker go outside of his comfort zone while still making a film that's identifiable as their own work
@crazysnas181
@crazysnas181 3 жыл бұрын
@@casanovafunkenstein5090 oh yeah, I identify it as Disney producing a David Lynch movie. It certainly has a lot of the trademarks of his filmography and it seems he took the story and in many ways, made the best of it. Weirdly enough, I think a lot of what he learned in that film found its way into Season 3 of Twin Peaks, especially those slow gentle moments that Lynch excels at. I saw a lot of Carl Rodd in this film, I can tell you that.
@christophermanley3602
@christophermanley3602 3 жыл бұрын
I saw it several years ago and it instantly made my top 10 films of all time.
@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 3 жыл бұрын
Movies referenced: First Blood (1982) The Straight Story (1999) Hot Shots: Part Deux (1993) UHF (1989) Blue Velvet (1986) Ran (1985) Star Wars A New Hope (1977) Mulan (1998) Rocky III (1982) Spider-Man (2002) The Matrix (1999) Eraserhead (1977) Dune (1984) Rambo: First Blood Part 2 (1985) Rambo Last Blood (2019) Well god damn Maggie... A lot going on here lolz
@Arosukir6
@Arosukir6 3 жыл бұрын
Movies just make me cry in general. Most things make me cry. I'm kind of an anxiety-fueled emotional mess a lot of the time.
@micha_ori8208
@micha_ori8208 3 жыл бұрын
book: tragic story of men damaged by violence in name of authority movies: so... he went back for more... it was cool...
@dwc1964
@dwc1964 3 жыл бұрын
"closure" (i.e., "do we get to win this time?") the theme for the next round of imperialist interventions, getting over "Vietnam Syndrome" and getting back to kicking ass the American Way.
@karliebellatrixyoung6359
@karliebellatrixyoung6359 3 жыл бұрын
12:23 Honestly, (though I haven't seen either film) the anachronism from Rambo in the final scene is kind of perfect. Even when he clearly understands who has failed him, he still wants to pick a fight with his civilian peers rather than the power structure. In the early aughts (when I was a pre-teen) I was saying "support the troops by bringing them home," this perfectly encapsulates the response that that position yielded, "you're the problem because you don't support them dying in battle."
@karliebellatrixyoung6359
@karliebellatrixyoung6359 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think I'll ever really understand blank check "I support the military so of course I'm a republican" conservatism. This was another great episode, I love the way you put texts in conversation.
@kiisusan
@kiisusan 3 жыл бұрын
Going to watch The Straight Story in future. As for a film that always causes sadness, one that immediately comes to mind is Logan, in keeping with the general theme of an old soldier who's desperately clinging to a reason to keep going.
@sandorenckell5259
@sandorenckell5259 3 жыл бұрын
The Wrestler is another one, even though it’s not about a soldier or warrior
@themythicalman
@themythicalman 3 жыл бұрын
Final scene(s) from a movie that left me an emotional wreck in the moment: 'Shadowlands,' starring Anthony Hopkins and Debra Winger, both Joy Davidman's (Winger) death from cancer, and Lewis (Hopkins) dealing with both his own grief and the grief of one of her young sons. The amount of emotional vulnerability and (for me) honesty in those scenes hit me without warning, and I'm grateful for it. As Hopkins says at the end, "I have no answers anymore, only the life I have lived."
@RictorIAG
@RictorIAG 3 жыл бұрын
Stallone did an interview with Howard Stern and talked about how the first movie was made. He hated the first version so much that he tried to buy it back so he could burn it. It was 3 hours. They cut over 50% of it, including most of his dialogue so that other characters talked about him rather than him talking about himself.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be so curious to see that original cut, or at least the deleted scenes, just for the sake of comparison.
@digitaljanus
@digitaljanus 3 жыл бұрын
It is a bit jarring that halfway through this slow-burn character drama, Col. Trautmann suddenly appears and talks up Rambo's badassery like the 1st act of a jingoist action film (setting the tenor for the sequels). But that's definitely preferable to this earlier version you're describing.
@linkkenni
@linkkenni 3 жыл бұрын
I have come to appreciate these kinds of essays. I like that you are bringing in people with relevant life experiences to talk about these films and how they relate to real life. Thank you for your video.
@MaggieMaeFish
@MaggieMaeFish 3 жыл бұрын
:-D
@adityaraman7265
@adityaraman7265 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the bundle of sticks parable way older? I thought even the 'fasces' symbol of Ancient Rome is a reference to that.
@TalenLee
@TalenLee 3 жыл бұрын
Not to downplay your great work, but man, Christian is so great and so interesting to hear from. Finding him in the middle of this (again, great) video was an absolute delight
@MaggieMaeFish
@MaggieMaeFish 3 жыл бұрын
You're not wrong!!!!
@josephsmith2682
@josephsmith2682 3 жыл бұрын
The Straight Story is the only David Lynch movie I've ever seen lol
@casanovafunkenstein5090
@casanovafunkenstein5090 3 жыл бұрын
That's surprising, but if you're going to watch one of his films it's not a bad choice by any means. People tend to over state how confusing his films are (though sometimes they are a bit out there) however if you enjoyed this one The Elephant Man and Blue Velvet are also quite accessible.
@Xondar11223344
@Xondar11223344 3 жыл бұрын
You're missing out on some pretty amazing movies. Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, Eraserhead, Wild at Heart, The Elephant Man, and his TV series, Twin Peaks, are all amazing. So very good.
@RachelMay1989
@RachelMay1989 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@rgs8970
@rgs8970 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say same, but I watched Elephant Man in my high school history class (I don't remember why we watched it, but I remember the movie distinctly)
@josephsmith2682
@josephsmith2682 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xondar11223344 I plan on watching them at some point, but tbh I don't know exactly what mood you have to be in to say "I'm going to watch Eraserhead today".
@OsirisMalkovich
@OsirisMalkovich 3 жыл бұрын
The little town in British Columbia where they filmed Rambo still looks like that. Until today I had no idea Rambo was filmed in Canada, but the landscape is unmistakable, even after 40 years!
@dipperdandy
@dipperdandy 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! I grew up near there. And funny enough the movie was released the year I was born.
@elKinesis
@elKinesis 3 жыл бұрын
Both the climax and the ending of The Green Mile bring tears to my eyes. I related so strongly at the time with the weariness expressed by both John and Paul, and it still brings me back to that time in my life whenever I see it.
@SkarrKrow
@SkarrKrow 3 жыл бұрын
Edward Scissorhands, from the moment of, "Hold me." "I can't.", onward, I am a sobbing mess.
@pattheplanter
@pattheplanter 3 жыл бұрын
The only missing piece to this perfect conversation was a reference to Son of Rambow (2007). The sweetest film ever inspired by Stallone.
@beansfebreeze
@beansfebreeze 3 жыл бұрын
I cried the first time I heard the ending speech in Rambo. Anybody with a soul would.
@woongah
@woongah 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen The Straight Story, and it was gorgeous and it made me cry in a couple of moments.
@kamuithanatos6596
@kamuithanatos6596 3 жыл бұрын
Shadow appearing over the horizon at the end of Homeward Bound. Tears just thinking about it, darn that orchestral rising.
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you again Maggie.
@MrTantrill
@MrTantrill 3 жыл бұрын
When I watch a film, especially inside a theater, I give myself over to it fully. I let it pull me along to the emotional lows and highs no matter the content. Unfortunately, I can't think of a movie that always leaves me a sobbing mess. I'm mostly typing this out to feed the Algorithm.
@phastinemoon
@phastinemoon 3 жыл бұрын
Christmas movies? Like, I know that’s the cheap shot, but it’s the most guaranteed way.
@MrTantrill
@MrTantrill 3 жыл бұрын
I've returned to this (forever and a day later) having forgotten I'd made a comment. I actually do have one movie which makes me lose all control. Not to be too dark but Schindler's List gets me every time. It's not even the deaths put on display that we are shown. They are horrific and leave me shaking. When I first saw the film, there's a scene with the children being rounded up and put on trucks. I didn't understand what was happening at first and then the slow dawning of understanding left me shaken. I had to stop the movie for a few hours before coming back to it to trudge my way through. I share this to feed the Algorithm.
@collinnoia
@collinnoia 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me, but I always looked at the incompetence of the National Guard in First Blood as a commentary on the "Fortunate Sons" who's wealthy parents secured them places stateside during Vietnam.
@shazang0
@shazang0 3 жыл бұрын
Fire Walk With Me is my favorite movie tied with Liquid Sky and Suspiria 2018, but even I haven't gotten around to watching The Straight Story yet. I guess it's like one of those things you keep in your back pocket until after an artist is retired or otherwise unable to produce new work, so you have one last new thing. Like I've never listened to all of Bikini Kill's singles but I've listened to their records hundreds of times. Anyway check out Ant Head, the second best David Lynch movie after Duran Duran: Unstaged.
@daffyphack
@daffyphack 3 жыл бұрын
This video is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan
@GeorgeSaulnier
@GeorgeSaulnier 3 жыл бұрын
a final movie scene that always makes me cry? there are a few but the one that stands out is the beautiful final sequence in Longtime Companion. I saw it in a theatre and was crying so hard at it that strangers were trying to comfort me.
@ash_420_69
@ash_420_69 3 жыл бұрын
i only first watched it recently, by Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence had me SOBBING!! it’s definitely in my top 5 now and i expect i’ll cry every time i watch it. excellent video 💖
@stampede274
@stampede274 3 жыл бұрын
I have personally experienced harassment from certain corners of the left just for being a veteran, but it pales in comparison to the baseline day to day harassment I get from (mostly) the right just for being trans.
@JamesBond-st4qu
@JamesBond-st4qu 3 жыл бұрын
Being a vet these days is nothing to be proud of so at least one side got it right.
@stampede274
@stampede274 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBond-st4qu Never said i was proud. But people do shit on vets without looking at the bigger systemic issues that lead people to join the military. Such as, in my case, one of the many contributing factors was dysphoria and denial.
@stampede274
@stampede274 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBond-st4qu Hell, when people thank me for my service, my default response is "please don't."
@K_i_t_t_y84
@K_i_t_t_y84 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesBond-st4qu You know, your comment is a year old so it feels kind of weird to come to this conversation so late but I'd like to say something. Something that is "nothing to be proud of" does not necessarily mean that that thing is also worthy of being harassed for. As a person from a predominately military family whose husband is a 100% disabled vet from his time in the service, I agree that being a vet is nothing to be 'proud" of but neither is it something worthy of being shat on for. A very high number of people in the military do it because they're trying to escape poverty, and the Right keeps wages low to drive poor people to The Service. Yes, the military-industrial complex is highly problematic but shitting on vets ain't gonna stop it, ending capitalism's chokehold on America is your solution. So instead of taking out your anger over capitalism on vets, try for something less shitty to other people suffering under the same system you're suffering under, especially given how many vets have PTSD from their time in the military. You're literally shitting on people who went through a lot *worse* shit than a lot of civilians just because they wanted to go to school. A lot of people seem to forget that--that neutrality exists.
@p2umpkin
@p2umpkin 3 жыл бұрын
This was a beautiful video, thank you 💜 Both films are definitely on my watch list now.
@theawesome925
@theawesome925 3 жыл бұрын
I always feel like the end of First Blood the movie is actually *more* tragic than the ending of the book (where Troutman literally has to put Rambo down like a rabid animal) because Rambo basically goes back to his abuser at the end. The Army did this to him, and made him into a machine that can only respond with violence to overcome any obstacle. So much of his hurt is self-inflicted in both the book and film, but it's as a result of his dehumanizing training coupled with the horrors he experienced (and yes, perpetrated) in Vietnam. Even after every single thing he goes through in the narrative of the film, he still can't see the full scope of what has been done to him, and goes back to the arms of the military in a desperate hope for stability and sanity. And they just put him to work killing more people. They don't help John. They just want Rambo.
@zadig08
@zadig08 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, this is great! I'm a vet and I always appreciate this kind of stuff. I've never heard of The Straight Story, but it's definitely on the list now.
@AldousShitbird
@AldousShitbird 3 жыл бұрын
Howl's Moving Castle's ending takes me out everytime.
@michaelmccormick2124
@michaelmccormick2124 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE Films in Conversation, LOVE the midwestern mom-type character, LOVE seeing a Maggie Mae Fish upload in my feed! Really enjoyed this one and I'd never seen either film, can't wait to see what's next your videos have been so entertaining lately.
@Vertabreaker3
@Vertabreaker3 3 жыл бұрын
This may be the most insightful and well stated film review I have ever seen. Thank you for making this. You just got another subscriber.
@ninjaeddy1717
@ninjaeddy1717 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the straight story! Been years since I’ve seen it. Looking forward to this video!
@grimmgoosegoose216
@grimmgoosegoose216 3 жыл бұрын
It's you've got mail. I've watched it a million times but every single time, they meet in the park, I burst into tears right along with Meg Ryan XD
@Advent3546
@Advent3546 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like I picked a good day to rewarch your Breaking Bad/Punishment Park video.
@millennialacademy1087
@millennialacademy1087 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see Rambo rebooted. With a black protagonist (honestly the story always felt that way) and in modern day. The beats of police brutality, Veteran abandonment, war crimes and American imperialism could hit very hard To Today’s audience. Hell, Rambo could even have wanted to get out after a particularly unsavory OP and couldn’t because his commander stop losses him. A huge problem in The troop surge 2003-2008
@kellyloganme
@kellyloganme 3 жыл бұрын
That could be amazing! Write that!
@ithemba
@ithemba 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame how the Rambo franchise developed. When I first read about "last blood" I had the glimpse of hope of it reconnecting the story to those topics and maybe Rambo meeting people of a younger generation going through the same stuff he did in the first one. Alas...
@edward2962
@edward2962 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, it sorta already exists, although not exactly...it's called "Dead Presidents"
@alex12ray
@alex12ray 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think we need any more movies about how the horrors of US imperialism make our soldiers sad. Like, I don't want more stories about how veterans need to be treated better after being sent off to do horrific things; I want to see more stories about 1) how those horrific things impact the people they're inflicted on, 2) why those horrors were completely unnecessary and that US imperialism needs to be stopped.
@millennialacademy1087
@millennialacademy1087 3 жыл бұрын
@@alex12ray you have a point. However the Rambo franchise and original story is specifically about Veteran issues and treatment. Now there is no reason your ideas can’t be a central to the protagonists inner conflicts. You can do both I think.
@elephantbrandmcmahan
@elephantbrandmcmahan 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so curious how you’ll connect these. The Straight Story is so underrated
@terminaldeity
@terminaldeity 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see The Straight Story finally getting some appreciation! I spent the summer of 2006 watching every David Lynch film and Twin Peaks multiple times. I remember being surprised to see that David Lynch did a Disney-produced movie, and despite it missing much of the Lynchian weirdness that turned me onto his movies, The Straight Story solidly hit me in the feels, and I've been trying to get other people to watch it ever since. Thanks for highlighting it!
@waltermanson999
@waltermanson999 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as Always !
@Cheyne_TetraMFG
@Cheyne_TetraMFG 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video, thank you for this Maggie!!
@Otokogoroshi
@Otokogoroshi 3 жыл бұрын
My father is a Vietnam vet and has bought the whole 'Vets being spat on' narrative completely. He gets deeply angry (he has anger issues and PTSD, no surprise there!) if questioned on the matter. Memory is such a silly thing and can be influenced so much by outside sources YEARS after the event occurred. We keep rewriting the memory every time we access it so it's hard for us to notice the narrative shift. I joined the military to get away from an abusive mother (parents are divorced and I lived with her after they split up) and a shitty small town where I had no future. My best friend got to go to college (mostly paid by his wealthy mother) and joined after he was getting his PHD so he got to be an officer. My father didn't get his degree till his 50s (I even helped him out!). So I've seen the different sides of how the military works and the kinds of people who join. This is such a well-done video as always. Thank you!
@Persephonelope
@Persephonelope 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! Some Maggie May to cheer up my day!
@raulduke1010
@raulduke1010 3 жыл бұрын
I've always loved the Straight Story, thanks for giving me a clearer insight and for bringing it to wider attention, more people should know it!
@pixiegraytail4800
@pixiegraytail4800 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis. Rambo is one my favorite movies and I love it when people don’t treat it as just an action movie but as a dark, complex story about a veteran basically shunted to the side of society and treated like a piece of garbage. I highly recommend the book it’s based on - the police officer and Rambo are given a lot of depth. And the spitting image is a great book, too. Read it if you can get it.
@rgs8970
@rgs8970 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a light touch (my phone suggested Scorpio, which is also true and relevant)-- I cry at the end of many many movies. But my favorite ending to cry to is the final scene of the documentary Paris Is Burning, with the ending monologue by Dorian Corey... highly recommend it in context but even thinking of the last line makes me cry (mild spoiler: if you don't want to read the last line, do not read on!) "if you shoot an arrow and it goes real high, hooray for you" -- Dorian Corey
@thepopeofatheism
@thepopeofatheism 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't give a shit about Rambo until after I got back from war. Since then First Blood has really stood out in my mind. Another more recent film which impacted me in similar ways was Ad Astra. Brad Pitt's character is left a passive, emotionally empty mess after his experiences and his government is happy to let him languish in obscurity. Then suddenly they find a use for him and force him into more traumatic experiences in the hopes they can exploit his connection to his father. They abuse his passive dedication to duty until he attempts to have an emotion. An emotion awakens within him in his futile attempts to contact his father and the government immediately pulls him from the mission. His reawakening humanity becomes a liability and reduces his potential utility in their eyes. Personally, I am constantly on the hunt for my humanity. I remain hopeful that some day I'll have it back and I'm glad I'm out of the environment that would punish me for it.
@billbolin7972
@billbolin7972 3 жыл бұрын
Insightful analysis, Ms Fish. Thank you.
@heeeyyy2947
@heeeyyy2947 3 жыл бұрын
beyond happy to see The Straight Story getting some love: it was one of the first things I watched on Disney+ cause I hadn't seen it since I was a kid!
@twothreebravo
@twothreebravo 3 жыл бұрын
I was not expecting this video to be about what it was about. As an OIF vet with PTSD it was a bit overwhelming at points. But fortunately I already have an appointment with my therapist tomorrow. Thanks for making this video and thanks for bringing Cristian in on it.
@Botjer1
@Botjer1 3 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure seeing your creations Maggie!
@varamu1132
@varamu1132 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing video, and an amazing perspective I had never seen. Thanks for making these videos, and teaching us things.
@incandifferent
@incandifferent 2 жыл бұрын
I just got this channel recommended to me by the algorithms. Love it. Subscribed.
@Murphys00
@Murphys00 3 жыл бұрын
First time seeing the “Minnesotian” character and I like it. Seems too natural
@Cobralalalala
@Cobralalalala 3 жыл бұрын
I always love the position you look at these movies from. Excellent analysis that is spot on!
@Cobralalalala
@Cobralalalala 3 жыл бұрын
And a lot of movies make me cry, so it's hard to even thing right now. Judas and the Black Messiah might be the most recent.
@oscaraird4984
@oscaraird4984 3 жыл бұрын
hey! This was wonderful. Thank you @Maggie Mae Fish.
@cegalo12
@cegalo12 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks Maggie!!!
@lucasnunes2453
@lucasnunes2453 3 жыл бұрын
loved the video as always. great input from Cristian. please keep the voice from now on its so cute
@NonanteSeize
@NonanteSeize 3 жыл бұрын
The first few movies that come to mind to have me balling at the end are: I Daniel Blake, 120bpm, Pride (good tears), and Parada. I heavily recommend each of those film to anyone. PS: Love you Maggie. Your videos always bring joy to me, piercing through the depression 💜
@FanHalen5150
@FanHalen5150 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the First Blood Analysis, Maggie! The rabbit hole goes deeper when comparing the film to the book though; Apparently, in First Blood the book, the Sheriff is relatively more sympathetic whereas Rambo kill a lot of people that he didn't in the film, so the message is even more subtle and nuanced and they balance each other out in terms of right and wrong. Also, Rambo coming to see his friend was a film addition as well as him turning himself in at the end. In the book, Colonel Trautman kills him. Thank you for your insights!
@slugworth3111
@slugworth3111 3 жыл бұрын
The new thumbnails look good. 💚
@BibleAlivePresentations
@BibleAlivePresentations 3 жыл бұрын
You gave an absolutely brilliant presentation. Thank you so much, thank you for the interview with the gentleman in the arm services, you speak a lot of truth. Big David Lynch fan. Laura Palmer I think, honestly, it is most important character.
@disky01
@disky01 2 жыл бұрын
This was so very good, Maggie.
@Lycandros
@Lycandros 3 жыл бұрын
You always make consistently good videos.
@pdzombie1906
@pdzombie1906 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I wanna see more movies hooking up!!! Great video! Thanx!!!
@gateauxq4604
@gateauxq4604 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Humor punctuating it is a killer! ❤️
@ignatiusj.reilly1197
@ignatiusj.reilly1197 3 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about being old is remembering when you were young. I've seen just about all there is. I've learned to separate the wheat from the chaff and let the small stuff fall away.
@Xondar11223344
@Xondar11223344 3 жыл бұрын
After I watched this video, my wife and I watched The Straight Story and it was really good. My wife absolutely loved in and now makes references to it all the time. Thanks for the recommendation Maggie!
@antoniocarlosgoncalvesfilho
@antoniocarlosgoncalvesfilho 3 жыл бұрын
The ending of Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence. I never cried so much watching a movie. One of the most beautiful films that I have ever experienced
@honorablebandit
@honorablebandit 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there--I did not know you were doing these, MMF. This is really great analysis. Will be watching/listening a lot more from now on!
@MaggieMaeFish
@MaggieMaeFish 3 жыл бұрын
Brian !!!! You're no small part of why I make these, glad you like !!! xoxo 🥰
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