There's another way of recording synths (using the "External Instrument" device). I discuss that in this followup video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qruKndGTsbGXdY0.html&lc=UgzrhJQBeZJ7eJApM014AaABAg
@andym73333 жыл бұрын
sir what is best way if im playing live?? not 4 studio but live thankssss
@andym73333 жыл бұрын
probably the one shooting midi b4 so no nudging since its live??
@pruff50723 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you posted the method for poor people first, lol. Because if I understand this Ableton guide correctly (see link below), then the method you show without the "External Instrument" is the only way people can record hardware synths if they have they just have the cheaper Ableton Live versions Lite/Intro. (link: help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209774265-Using-hardware-synthesizers-with-Live). EDIT: I started watching your "External Instrument" video where you confirm this and go over why one may choose to use one method versus the other. Thanks!
@andym73333 жыл бұрын
@@pruff5072 rich or poor wich is best??
@pruff50723 жыл бұрын
@@andym7333 I am barely learning this stuff but my understanding is that you may not need to use the external instrument method unless you are trying to record multiple instruments simultaneously - a case where the delay compensation can be helpful. But the Abelton Live developers official position is that one should use the external instrument method. If I was you I would just try out your instrument with your version of Live and if you are having problems with delay then consider trying a free trial of the Abelton Studio version to see if using the external instrument method fixes your problem. Then consider buying either the Standard or Suite version to get that functionality.
@ursbasteck2 жыл бұрын
Kinda weird, really, how there are SOOO many tutorials, guides and walkthroughs for music gear and software but barely any which describe how to use them with each other. This here was much appreciated, thanks!
@michaelkonomos3 жыл бұрын
This is literally one of the most helpful videos I have ever watched related to music. You explained it so clearly, and the grouping of the track and the way you set up up helped me make SUCH a breakthrough, I was so stuck, I was trying to get a Minilab and a CRAVE to work live in Ableton and I had given up, nothing else online helped, this was such a lifesaver, thank you!!!
@christopherjohnson42762 жыл бұрын
I'm here for exactly the same reason! My Crave arrived yesterday and connecting to Ableton properly was crushing my soul.
@terencole1854 Жыл бұрын
I agree, this is one of the best vids I’ve come across breaking things down. Thanks!
@Boistyle343 жыл бұрын
Watched 20 different tutorials on this topic, yours was the most thorough & it helped me immensely. You rule dude!
@chrisb90267 ай бұрын
This tutorial was exactly what I needed to be able to record a sequenced patch in my Microfreak, in to Ableton, without the weird tempo sync issue I was having. Thank you.
Жыл бұрын
What a coincidence. Today, I was just trying to solve the workflow with my HW synths, which is also the Micro, plus the OG Korg Minilogue, and I was getting super frustrated about it. I realized that I truly hate fiddling with the VST synths and I have much more fun with my real ones. But simultaneously I like using MIDI because of the flexibility it gives you. This video is a knowledge bomb that just solved it for me. Thanks!
@srennrgaard24223 жыл бұрын
Regarding your cable issues: Using a USB cable and audio cables simultaneously creates two ground paths between computer and synth (a ground loop). The MIDI connection on the other hand is usually optically isolated so only the only ground path to the PC is through the audio cables. Try to switch to MIDI + audio cables if you run into noise issues again! You can also get USB isolators which do the same thing to the USB connection - very handy to have one around.
@Royvdl Жыл бұрын
Soo for instance, I have a Roland TR-8 with midi out, and a focusrite scarlett 6i6 with midi in. I connect the midi out from the tr-8 to the midi in of the interface to connect it to ableton and have the sound out from the tr-8 connected to the monitors directly?
@srennrgaard2422 Жыл бұрын
@@RoyvdlI am not completely sure I understand. Then your would be able to record the MIDI in your DAW but not the audio (since you connected that to your monitors). Your should probably connect (1) Focusrite MIDI out->TR-8 MIDI in, (2) TR-8 MIDI out -> Focusrite MIDI in, (3) TR-8 audio out -> Focusrite audio in. Then you can (1) send MIDI from your DAW to your TR-8, (2) record the TR-8 as MIDI in your DAW and (3) record the audio from the TR-8 in your DAW. In case of the TR-8, however, it looks like you can do all of these tree thing simultaneously through the USB cable alone, so you might want to look into that.
@rgbofmaine3 жыл бұрын
Useful info, nicely edited, and delivered in a low-key style. Man that's refreshing. Thanks.
@PsyJaye Жыл бұрын
You're an empathic teacher.. I am just getting into digital recording after years of using a studio so I am flying blind.. thanks for a great video..
@Robert-kx8mp3 жыл бұрын
I use a hybrid approach combining external hardware and software instruments in the same project, and Ableton’s external instrument device with the automatic latency compensation is a life saver.
@DarkFutureConsolidated3 жыл бұрын
A life saver because you're doing it the correct way;)
@marcuswilespage3 жыл бұрын
So you don’t have to manually calculate latency with the external instrument device? How do you commit the track to audio? Flatten the ext inst track, or create a new audio track? If new audio track, do you select the input as external input, or the output of the external instrument track? TIA!
@q.u.e.20193 жыл бұрын
Ive been looking for this THE WHOLE TIME OMG RIGHT TO IT!
@jvsonyt Жыл бұрын
The way you explained the clip start and loop gave me the biggest aHa moment. I understood that it worked like that but the way you applied it showed me it's true function. For that I am incredibly grateful haha I'm even more excited to open ableton now
@qavah4031 Жыл бұрын
I bought the MicroFreak today, this video was so helpful. Thank you! Also, that melody you played sounded so familiar to me. After much contemplation, I finally remembered where I heard it, it's the main melody to the song "En El Muelle De San Blás" by Maná. Probably unintentional but phew you gave me a huge throwback haha
@matthewsimental96882 ай бұрын
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING I knew it was familiar!
@ambientshane Жыл бұрын
This information has helped me out so much.. I've been buying a lot of analogue synth lately + drum machines. I've been a licenced Ableton user since V8. Always wanted to have the best of both worlds. Great video my brother. 🙏
@the-sailing-bard2 жыл бұрын
Dave, this video was pivotal for me. Thanks.
@DeepCrossing14 ай бұрын
this is a great overview of a lot of the more granular skills and tasks required in using Ableton, it's good to get an overview that is also very detailed, fleeting insights into the artist's process and organisation skills are great.
@ketekmusic9138 Жыл бұрын
i wish i had seen this video sooner! i struggled for days, even weeks at a time trying to get my modular synth system to work with ableton. through trial and error ive got to working correctly but i now after watching this video i actually understand why i failed and suceeded haha you did a great job of explaing all the steps of routing, syncing and recording process :) so glad the algorithm finally led me to this video
@javisounds3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video! Many thanks for the clear explanation and sharing your journey with us. Greetings from Spain, Javi Serrano
@dmitrijurovski2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video product you created, Thank you!
@DavidHilowitzMusic2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@cesmcmyth3 жыл бұрын
David! aweeesome! Last time I checked - like .... couple of months back - you had 5k subscribers. Now is at 11.5k. Still not as many as you deserve. Congrats! love it
@Atatsounds3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the best help! Of all there is on youtube this was the best on the subject!
@graphene14872 жыл бұрын
Well made and jam packed video. Thank you from someone who has been recording at home for a few years. Served as a solid refresher course.
@chrisstaniforth56295 ай бұрын
Cheers for the content dude!! Really useful and easy to understand 👍 appreciate your time. Hope you are well!
@Rynwlms2 жыл бұрын
Hey. I never comment on KZfaq. But, your stuff is fantastic. I just discovered you. I'm in my mid-life crisis phase and have finally started to take the plunge into music producing after longing to do so for entirely too long. Anyway, enough about me. Your content is super super clear. Has all the necessary detail. And, I really like your delivery. I can tell this is a topic that you have both passion and endurance for. And that is very inspiring. Anyway, I know this topic is too niche for you to make any real money on so this is more of a passion project for you and I just wanted you to hear that it's working. THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing with everyone.
@patzuck24353 жыл бұрын
le parfait tuto pour ABLETON Live Start version (without that external instrument) ! very helpful. Thank you David.
@dialman11113 жыл бұрын
wow, that tip you showed about saving the channel templates is one of the most awesome tips I've found about Ableton. I didn't know you could do that. Thanks!
@RealDjMarkuZ3 жыл бұрын
This open widely the inspiration mode WOW I had an ableton course 2 years ago and they didnt talk about this. Way to go Dave.
@DMS1985262 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to this video, it has helped me so much, I now utilise everything in it. Even with my old JP8000 :)
@vevench30552 жыл бұрын
I'm about to get Microfreak as my first hardware synth and I'm really thankful to you for making this video!
@vonnie5892 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video!
@jondellar Жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you!! I've been trying to find this out for some time. Really appreciated your step-by-step approach 🎉
@jacquiventurini884410 ай бұрын
Wow, your knowledge is impressive. Im so glad I came across your channel! I totally dig your retro take on music too
@TamDNB2 жыл бұрын
Dude, your videos are great. Glad the algorithm pointed me to you
@tom223332 жыл бұрын
Thx man. Great point about the notes. Love how the automation is recorded in too!
@jesseanderson38353 жыл бұрын
The more of your videos I watch the more your tunes give me videogame score vibes. I'm thinking Night in the Woods and Outer Wilds. Very cool stuff. I hope to hear your songs and melodies in some future classic indie games. Cheers from Texas.
@DopamineOverload3 жыл бұрын
Massively helpful walkthrough, Dave. Thanks!
@kreltv2 жыл бұрын
Huge thanks David 🙏🏻🤟🏻
@marcuslawson97502 жыл бұрын
Helpful video . That melody at the beginning is also dope 👀
@marcoperez45282 ай бұрын
Man, thank you for this video. Attempt number 7... And your video was the one. When I release my next album I'm going to credit you. Just look for Yako Ma
@PeterKNoone Жыл бұрын
Super helpful peak into your process. Thank you!
@riggedforsea.67563 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this man
@11MasterMind113 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.... nice! Exactly what I needed. Thanks for this Video!!!! Also very harmonic way of teaching what is important
@RenoFriends6 ай бұрын
Man this video helped a lot, great explanation
@dusanvukasovic25252 жыл бұрын
If you play notes on your synth and use MIDI input to record them, it might occur that your DAW sends them back to your synth via MIDI out so the synth plays them at least twice, and that can sound ugly. One of the solutions for that is that you play your synth by master keyboard. Notes go from master keyboard to DAW and then to the synth. Next, "round trip latency" means in buffer plus out buffer. 256 samples (in) plus 256 samples (out) at 48kHz is about 10,6ms... plus the latency of the DAW itself which can go high if you use plugins with extra buffers like "look ahead" compressors etc. Few things to keep in mind, but to keep always in mind.
@mredo20122 жыл бұрын
simply great video!!! thank you
@BigPlasticPlant3 жыл бұрын
Good video, subbed. You can almost entirely solve your latency issue with recording in ableton by simply monitoring on a separate audio track. In all my track groups I have a dedicated track for monitoring while recording and it has solved the headaches, I was pulling my hair out with ableton with latency seemingly randomly changing depending on which synth I was using using and how midi was routed. Fucking around with latency makes me want to just turn on Netflix....
@gryg666 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
@joel_holzapfel2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video! Thanks David!
@proutie011810 ай бұрын
i eally love what you do.
@boughtinerror3 жыл бұрын
When recording your audio track create a copy for recording and use one for monitoring On the record track set monitor to off. You can then monitor through your listen audio track and not record. The recording track the records with zero latency or as close to zero as possible that you cant detect it.
@pfft93632 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was looking for. thank you
@mdreid3 жыл бұрын
Really nicely explained! I struggled a lot with recording synths when I first started and now I use an approach really similar to yours (but relying more on external monitoring as I do most of my effects through aux sends off my mixer). This video would have saved me weeks of frustration. I’m definitely going to point people to this video if I’m ever asked how to record external gear.
@casspirburns2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Refreshing to see a video that gets straight to the point without all the hand waving. Been looking for this info. *the gospel radio might make for some interesting sampling
@davelister20052 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful. Thank you!
@shubear5465 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Super helpful
@beMOTIONdESIGN3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you!
@bkriss4 ай бұрын
really helpful, thanks!
@majeston16 күн бұрын
super helpful thank you
@syhr_samoht3 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks. I've got into the hardware synth world after using VST's forever. Really helpful...
@jeanmakesgames Жыл бұрын
thanks David! Thanks to this video I have been able to fix a very annoying problem I had with ableton and my mpk mini: a massive delay! And all of this because my output buffer size was by default at 4096 samples, lowering it to 688 was doing the trick! :)
@macpaz3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this amazing guide. You've explained the process very well and your editing is so on point.
@R41NES Жыл бұрын
Perfect video thank you so much
@Musicbymagz3 жыл бұрын
you really made my life way better, I can't thank you enough! the best
@stephendavismoon46762 жыл бұрын
Just brilliant, so clear and concise, thank you
@Dexton07422 жыл бұрын
Hey man, many thanks for this video. Just bought my first h/w synth (Minilogue) and these seemingly basic tips were unknown to me and are essential. Glad I found the video. Thank you. Subbed too
@dreamysleepyzzz Жыл бұрын
the only thing I hope is that if we can hear just a bit longer of some of the sounds you are making while you are explaining, it would be a much enjoyable and really know what the sound is. But, This is purely great content, have been watching your channels for a few days, it really explain a lot and tells me a lot about what these things are with great background story and sounds, it is awesome. i always loved these sounds, but i had a period where i have no idea where are these sounds made from and what are these machine that have light flashing in pattern. Thank you for sharing the knowledge and making contents like this, really Really appreciate it for the effort and time for this. :D
@lucidview122 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. This stopped me from pulling out what little hair I have left.
@Mafyoutube Жыл бұрын
It was great! Thank you.
@Paradroidx2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir some gold knowledge right here. Thank You
@bci39373 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dav...
@FernandoDCDuarte3 жыл бұрын
Super useful information and very well delivered, clear as day 👌
@1_of_43 жыл бұрын
Really awesome video!!
@ludwigerhard97232 жыл бұрын
Oh nice thanks a lot just bought the minibrute 2s last week without knowing anything about external synths😹
@cryptik_official3 жыл бұрын
Besides my question, this video definitely helped me get starting making some cool pads...still, I like producing techno and the Crazy Arpeggiater is honestlywhy I bought this synth.
@dj_Davepz2 жыл бұрын
Perfect, thanks mate
@kmz81603 жыл бұрын
Clean and very useful explanation. Thanks a lot!
@echo_opera3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a clear and concise tutorial on this subject. Keep up the great work 👊🏼™️
@Hermiel2 жыл бұрын
4:44 Unless your DAW lets you mess with the record buffer, a live input signal will always be recorded on time, in sync with the rest of your music. The results would be catastrophic otherwise. The delay you hear from large buffer sizes is usually on the playback side, not the record side.
@AndreySutormin6 ай бұрын
Thanks David! Helpful video and well produced! As an idea for another video: I'm using Moog Mavis together with microfreak. I spent 4 hours trying to tie them together and tune the Moog. There is no content about that on the internet. So i believe it could be helpful. In general using an analog synth with no midi through the cv gate is complicated for the first time. I think this piece of content could be useful. Thanks.
@MC-kp1hw2 жыл бұрын
Very good tutorial. Thanks for sharing 👍
@DEADLINETV3 жыл бұрын
Good and interesting video David! Thanks!
@dabistudio_japan3 жыл бұрын
Nice man! Actually I had exactly this problem as I bought the MicroFreak recently, my first real synth in almost 20 years! As I used to have lots of synths back in the 90s and early 2000s. I used to have a MidiSport interface to plug my midi synth but then I moved to Japan 16 years ago and since 2005, I have been a soft synth guy missing my real keys and Analog collection. I had to call my friend from Arturia and asked him what I was doing wrong... as I could't get the synth synchronized with Logic. It really make me go for more real hardware! I missed too much! Cheers from Japan!
@daisyroberts74013 жыл бұрын
Impressive Energy ☝
@snidedj3 жыл бұрын
This was excellent, thank you! Maybe now I can start finally recording my Deepmind!
@ellamiss46132 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. Thank you!
@MELROSEE2 жыл бұрын
brilliant thank you!
@EldarBaruch3 жыл бұрын
Lovely and informative! Thank you. ✨
@nathanieldeleon97202 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic, great video!
@DavidHilowitzMusic2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@savnac3 жыл бұрын
very intuitive guidance. I loved this video and subscribed :)
@_yore__3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED, THANKS!! :)
@dormaettu3022 жыл бұрын
Really really helpfull for beginners. Thanks
@jetset8083 ай бұрын
The other thing is if you use 16 bar loops it will be different than 1. There is natural modulation in hardware. Even if it's sequenced by Ableton. So by using longer loops it's less sterile but too long can make it muddy
@theblowupdollsmusic2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thank you. I think you can also send midi program changes in the clips to reset the patch if you need to.
@domasedelectronica3 жыл бұрын
great video!
@paul_burney3 жыл бұрын
you need to set monitoring to off for the audio track that you are recording - you will find the track delay is much less (should be on the grid if you do this but won't be because of midi jitter from USB - few ms)
@paul_burney3 жыл бұрын
@A.I.D. Step 6 - Use a pair of MIDI and Audio tracks (Optional method) In case you don't have External Instrument, or prefer this method: Create a MIDI track. In the IO section, choose the correct MIDI output port. Create an audio track. In the IO section, choose Ext. In and the correct audio input port(s). Switch the monitor to In. Make sure that Reduced Latency When Monitoring is active in the Options menu. Adjust the track delay on the MIDI track until the audio is in sync with the rest of the set. Step 7 - Recording the hardware into Live There are a few different methods of recording the output of your hardware as audio in Live. Method 1 (Recommended) - Record directly to another audio track Create a blank audio track. Set Audio From to receive audio directly from the External Instrument or Audio Effect track. Choose between Pre FX, Post FX and Post Mixer. We recommend recording Pre FX to capture pure audio from the hardware, in case you want to further process or adjust any effects afterwards in Live. Keep the monitor of the recording audio track set to Off. Arm it and start recording into a blank clip slot.
@xradical89x3 жыл бұрын
thank you David
@ibrajimenez20983 жыл бұрын
Great video Thank you
@gadd11113 жыл бұрын
awesome. very helpful. subscribed. Thanks man!
@cooloutcoexist3 жыл бұрын
"So today we are recording some synth on a chill electro track" - ends up recording some sick gospel chops from the waves :-D
@zachgochberg44092 жыл бұрын
You're brilliant. I've been struggling to get my MODX 8 to work as an external instrument, but I'm using Ableton's Free Trial. So that could be contributing to my problem. Also I have a UM2 Euphoria audio interface that may be substandard. I haven't figured it out yet, but I'll keep working on it.