DC: "Boxing is more BRUTAL than MMA"🥊

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Freeman

6 ай бұрын

Former double champion Daniel Cormier explains why boxing is more detrimental to an athlete's health than Mixed Martian Arts.
Taken from The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #150 with Daniel Cormier

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@stevemeters3090
@stevemeters3090 5 ай бұрын
Single trauma vs repeated trauma. Completely correct.
@ntsempty1209
@ntsempty1209 5 ай бұрын
I feel like MMA is more brutal but boxing is way more dangerous in that regard
@aseeal96
@aseeal96 5 ай бұрын
@@ntsempty1209well said
@RABJJ52
@RABJJ52 5 ай бұрын
@@ntsempty1209 I would say MMA has the opportunity to be even more brutal in certain instances but boxing is more brutal for you on a consistent basis
@Evilevilmonkeyy
@Evilevilmonkeyy 5 ай бұрын
Unless it’s gaethe vs Ferguson
@Bulldog23636
@Bulldog23636 5 ай бұрын
Nah
@unknowng888
@unknowng888 5 ай бұрын
He actually explained that really really well.
@enriko__
@enriko__ 5 ай бұрын
No shit its what he does for a living
@unknowng888
@unknowng888 5 ай бұрын
@@enriko__ there’s a lot of people that do things as their day job and still don’t do a decent job. Take your sarcasm elsewhere, you’re probably American.
@lukamagicgod
@lukamagicgod 5 ай бұрын
​@@enriko__hes an mma fighter
@bambootank1117
@bambootank1117 5 ай бұрын
@@enriko__ He is UFC Champion, he understands the game
@rauljimenez1508
@rauljimenez1508 5 ай бұрын
isnt that kinda factually wrong with boxing having less injuries (171,0 per 1000 fights) than mma (228,7 per 1000 fights)?
@chevy_1235
@chevy_1235 5 ай бұрын
Bro formulated a perfectly structured essay in his mind
@steviechampagne
@steviechampagne 5 ай бұрын
anyone who’s ever tried to explain something this in-depth knows how difficult it can be to formulate the right sentences in real time. DC just proved the depth of his knowledge about the subject by explaining it so clearly and easily that even a dummy like me could grasp it 😂
@oturukira3182
@oturukira3182 5 ай бұрын
@NxjimNo one asked, nor cares. But thanks for the info G.
@jacobkeary6740
@jacobkeary6740 5 ай бұрын
That's called talking buddy
@jonathancarpenter399
@jonathancarpenter399 5 ай бұрын
This is also edited after the fact… you really think he spoke about this the whole time without Joe saying stuff?
@CNCMatrix
@CNCMatrix 5 ай бұрын
Yet anybody straight boxer that goes into that octagon gets destroyed.
@brocksimmons345
@brocksimmons345 5 ай бұрын
Respect to DC for not being biased
@brocksimmons345
@brocksimmons345 5 ай бұрын
@@aMyFy Because some fighters take pride in being part of such a violent sport
@zolaeight7574
@zolaeight7574 4 ай бұрын
@@brocksimmons345it’s not more violent, it’s less violent allowing for accumulation of brain trauma. MMA us much more violent and Allie for the body to recover only to reactive more trauma.
@KD-yb4xu
@KD-yb4xu 4 ай бұрын
@@zolaeight7574 incorrect. It looks more violent but the reality is MMA is pretty safe in comparison. Boxing has way more deaths and more athletes get brutal injuries in hockey and football than MMA. MMA is statistically a very safe sport
@TennoHaki
@TennoHaki 4 ай бұрын
You can't be biased when it's a fact.
@richiehustle
@richiehustle 4 ай бұрын
I love DC but it's nonsensical - take into account the gloves and oz of gloves. MMA gloves deliver greater damage hands down. Vs boxing gloves. So it's totally different levels. And plus he advocates MMA being more safe because you get knocked out only ones. Well lol. Thats kind of a crazy argument to throw in. How about checkings the stats of knocking people Unconscious in MMA and in boxing. MMA will always trump with those numbers.
@SideA628
@SideA628 5 ай бұрын
He’s absolutely right.
@grahammarkham9398
@grahammarkham9398 5 ай бұрын
No.
@sammyboy2987
@sammyboy2987 5 ай бұрын
​@@grahammarkham9398Yes
@mellidavis205
@mellidavis205 5 ай бұрын
Not
@MMAthlete
@MMAthlete 5 ай бұрын
​@@grahammarkham9398yes he is
@greez6424
@greez6424 5 ай бұрын
@@grahammarkham9398bro hes a mma fighter you don’t know better than him
@pat5262
@pat5262 5 ай бұрын
He is referring to the repetitive micro-concussive blows that occurs more predominantly in boxing, particularly at the lighter weight classes.
@madisonpowell1694
@madisonpowell1694 5 ай бұрын
Spot on my guy🤙🏻
@Buckaroo_Banzai47
@Buckaroo_Banzai47 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be about the same? You can still get knocked down in mma and keep fighting. The only thing I can think of for boxing is that the fights are longer, but I'd imagine you can do way more damage with kicks, knees, and elbows anyway.
@LOLCAMz
@LOLCAMz 5 ай бұрын
​@@Buckaroo_Banzai47yep your pretty much right, the longer fights is a big part of it. Boxers do tend to throw a lot more strikes than in mma tho. Also yes obviously kicks and elbows do way more damage bit that's the thing if you get kicked in the head you're out, meanwhile look at a tko in boxing, sometimes they might eat 10 or so clean shots quickly in a row and be out on their feet before it's stopped. It's strange and hard to believe bit yeah that's basically why boxers end up with more brain damage than in most other combat sports
@Buckaroo_Banzai47
@Buckaroo_Banzai47 5 ай бұрын
@LOLCAMz for sure. The only thing you can do is block and dodge those hits.
@madisonpowell1694
@madisonpowell1694 5 ай бұрын
@Buckaroo_Banzai47 The thing with light oz gloves and elbows, knees, ect is a higher chance of ko or stoppage. In boxing you can take (hundreds). There are pro boxing fights where more than 1000 punches where thrown by one side. Light jabs for years rattle that brain. MMA has a much faster stoppage. Which I believe personally is good for the sport. Can't let unnecessary harm come to these guys, ya know. Anyway, nice chatting, I'm done shitting. Have a good one👍🏻
@factswithrankings
@factswithrankings 4 ай бұрын
Boxing= long term damage MMA =Short term damage
@ElmaThudd
@ElmaThudd 5 ай бұрын
Look at the fatalities of some of the greatest boxer's in boxing history 🥊
@Maxx19986
@Maxx19986 4 ай бұрын
From muhammad Ali
@thabelochaphi1778
@thabelochaphi1778 4 ай бұрын
I mean we do have MMA fighters who were badly hurt after their career even during
@bryanmavis8771
@bryanmavis8771 4 ай бұрын
I got a feeling that isn't something we should be proud of 😅 Still love boxing though
@becarefulwhatyoufish4764
@becarefulwhatyoufish4764 3 ай бұрын
Right? Boxing fans literally brag about their favorite boxers literally killing each other
@BALLARDTWIN
@BALLARDTWIN 3 ай бұрын
​@@thabelochaphi1778 In a 118 year period there has been 70 fatal injuries in MMA, 9 of them were from unsanctioned fights. For Boxing it's 923 cases of fatal injuries in the same 118 year period. So yeah...
@Apaz0001
@Apaz0001 5 ай бұрын
Mario Yamasaki is the equalizer of mma and boxing
@danielko7457
@danielko7457 5 ай бұрын
MARIO “FINISH HIM, HE’S STILL BREATHING” YAAAMAAAASAAAAKIIIIIIII
@mumblezz__5890
@mumblezz__5890 5 ай бұрын
Lmaooooooo
@kamuzungu5353
@kamuzungu5353 5 ай бұрын
MARIO “if he dies, he dies” YAMASAKI
@drazenstefanovic6122
@drazenstefanovic6122 5 ай бұрын
Bro ct for sure whatever you choose
@Gil-wv5mc
@Gil-wv5mc 5 ай бұрын
Mario "If he dies,he dies" Yamasaki 👀👀👀
@PakalamYT
@PakalamYT 5 ай бұрын
In MMA when you get knocked down that usually spells the end of the fight. In boxing you can be knocked down three times in the space of 2 minutes and still continue
@charlesomane3759
@charlesomane3759 5 ай бұрын
That leads to brain damage over the years
@novarupture4582
@novarupture4582 5 ай бұрын
Sometimes tho, theres been plenty of dudes that have taken 5+ knockdowns in an mma fight with no 10 count and they're getting hit on the ground during recovery. Boxing is typically more dangerous long term for the average fight, but depending on the context an mma fight can be MUCH more dangerous.
@umar5138
@umar5138 5 ай бұрын
​@@novarupture4582MMA more dangerous interm of skills. Boxing literally gets punched on the head for 30mins and includes knock down with countdown. In statistics, boxing leads to way more brain damage (percentage).
@novarupture4582
@novarupture4582 5 ай бұрын
@umar5138 that's why I said potential wise. Cause mma has had plenty of fights where dudes got punched in the head for 25 mins with knockdowns and no count as well..... go watch max hollaway vs Ortega lmao. TYPICALLY boxing leads to more brain damage but they both have the potential to be just as dangerous as the other. Yall are also forgetting the brain damage that choking people out leads to lol. Can you cite these statistics cause every single detailed study is either boxing only or both combined. The only study that separated them just showed that 7% of boxers have been knocked out vs 4.2% of mma fighters. And also showed that mma has a 60% injury rate while boxing has 49%.
@basedbane787
@basedbane787 5 ай бұрын
​@@novarupture4582the majority of time is all that matters. Statistics show that sober drivers cause more accidents than drunks that doesn't mean it's safer to drive drunk
@user-pi3rd6nh4e
@user-pi3rd6nh4e 5 ай бұрын
The most honest and smartest thing I've ever heard Daniel speak...
@kamifonzo
@kamifonzo 5 ай бұрын
I feel like he’s known to be a pretty smart guy
@Jonbo117
@Jonbo117 4 ай бұрын
DC's a smart guy. Tf is this dude on?
@odysseynoone3831
@odysseynoone3831 4 ай бұрын
DC is always honest, humble, smart
@reinhardgayle4286
@reinhardgayle4286 4 ай бұрын
What are you talking about ?? he’s literally the peoples champion probably the one guy most people rooted for when vs Jon jones and thats literally because of his persona
@alhfgsp
@alhfgsp 3 ай бұрын
Then you don't know DC as well as you think you do. He's known as a bright guy.
@totoybrown0908
@totoybrown0908 5 ай бұрын
as a boxer at my teenage and early 20s, he’s right.. .i can’t forget those days when my body receives so much trauma in my muscles and my kidney sucks it all and i pee blood for the sport i once loved..
@mrsheabutter
@mrsheabutter 4 ай бұрын
So sorry. I wish we were warned of potential injuries and danger for the sports we love, that will be with us for the rest of our lives
@kakarotkills7
@kakarotkills7 4 ай бұрын
Pee blood???? Wow
@kakarotkills7
@kakarotkills7 4 ай бұрын
Nowadays??
@capofodedor7399
@capofodedor7399 5 ай бұрын
Been training mma for 15 years and I absolutely agree with him
@dion.one1
@dion.one1 5 ай бұрын
You wrong
@Ricoxosama
@Ricoxosama 5 ай бұрын
@@dion.one1no your wrong
@dion.one1
@dion.one1 5 ай бұрын
@@Ricoxosama no
@rubenmoreno5731
@rubenmoreno5731 5 ай бұрын
@@dion.one1 “you wrong” Dionn.7961 - 2023
@Xiicyy
@Xiicyy 5 ай бұрын
​@@dion.one1cry
@imskitz7377
@imskitz7377 5 ай бұрын
In addition, a LOT of mma fights end in submissions where the fighter taps before being seriously injured.
@RD-2709
@RD-2709 5 ай бұрын
​@@iaqhyou edited your comment and still managed to spell "ratio" wrong that's crazy
@YatoxHiyori2015
@YatoxHiyori2015 5 ай бұрын
​@@RD-2709lol, he deleted it😂
@23lnp
@23lnp 4 ай бұрын
So mma is a sport that condones the quitters way out by “ tapping out “
@RD-2709
@RD-2709 4 ай бұрын
@@23lnp it's a sport genius, wouldn't be a very good sport of all the competitors got seriously injured after every single fight 🤦
@23lnp
@23lnp 4 ай бұрын
@@RD-2709 well if the mma guys stopped trying to constantly rival boxers, i wouldnt have to explain why boxers are just a different breed of fighter seeing as the dangers of the sport are so much higher than that of mma.
@LambSauce330
@LambSauce330 5 ай бұрын
Single trauma vs repeated trauma IDC I love them both
@ejejdbejd
@ejejdbejd 4 ай бұрын
Both sports or both types of trauma?
@LambSauce330
@LambSauce330 4 ай бұрын
@@ejejdbejd 😂 both sports
@xfatoushe-6908
@xfatoushe-6908 4 ай бұрын
Mf said fuck it we ball 😈😂
@moesisme2
@moesisme2 4 ай бұрын
I agree. Also with boxing gloves the damage is more internal than external.
@KHRONIC357MAG
@KHRONIC357MAG 4 ай бұрын
If mma had boxing gloves they would do more damage but one sport that is wrost than both is medieval combat
@moesisme2
@moesisme2 4 ай бұрын
@@KHRONIC357MAG if mma had boxing gloves it would look as brutal with allot less blood and visual injuries but the long term effect would rise. Sports like football and boxing causes more injuries to the brain because they are basically protecting visual injuries while intensify internal injuries
@floresluis1990
@floresluis1990 5 ай бұрын
Boxers have died in the ring and some weren’t the same after a fight and weren’t able to return to the ring.
@timmythetalkingpotato
@timmythetalkingpotato 5 ай бұрын
There were MMA fighters who died too, just not in the UFC
@floresluis1990
@floresluis1990 5 ай бұрын
@@timmythetalkingpotato I figured, just never heard of any. Still DC is slightly right. MMA is brutal in its own right! Boxing is brutal in its own as well!
@RaphialLee
@RaphialLee 5 ай бұрын
Look at the numbers, bro. Boxing have been out for over 100s of years and includes the worst times. Boxing rules back then, yes, was more dangerous than Mma today, but today, Mma is more dangerous than Boxing today. You all always compare the life of boxers back to mma Fighters now but refused to compare the retired boxers now to retired mma fighters. Lmao, looking at Chuck and Ken Shamrock, Mma isnt very safe. And they haven't even fought long in mma compared to retired boxers too.
@discipleofkhorne9472
@discipleofkhorne9472 5 ай бұрын
​@@RaphialLeeYou can compare retired boxers to MMA fighters and they don't stack up well, retired boxers often have some of the worst brain trauma of any fighters. Even Freddie Roach suffers from Parkinsons due to the brain trauma he suffered. Boxers constantly die in the ring. MMA has had 7 deaths in sanctioned bouts in its entire history, boxing has 13 deaths per year. Also the careers are "shorter" because they fight less often as they don't need to pad their record as much and losses in MMA mean a lot less than they do in boxing. Also grappling is not great on your joints and hips, and generally athleticism/explosiveness is somewhat more important in MMA than in boxing.
@fawazplayz7478
@fawazplayz7478 5 ай бұрын
@@floresluis1990boxing is like 99% more brutal I knocked out someone and he was done for he had tears rolling through his eyes and key kidney was messed up and his face and then he kept on getting knocked out over and over till my coach told me to stop
@JohnnyLaw3134
@JohnnyLaw3134 5 ай бұрын
He put forth a legitimate argument
@YRG_JR
@YRG_JR 5 ай бұрын
This is why DC is the man.
@iberrypa
@iberrypa 5 ай бұрын
I wish they had a mercy rule in boxing and announced points after each round. Like 3 knockdown or a certain number of points up and it's over. Announcing points might also entice more action from the losing fighter and get rid of the corrupt robbery decisions
@GUWWT
@GUWWT 5 ай бұрын
They tried this
@definitelynosebreather
@definitelynosebreather 5 ай бұрын
True unless you have a ref like Green's last fight
@xConoooR1
@xConoooR1 5 ай бұрын
Stop crying lol. Jiri was early because he wasn’t fully sleeping and then when green gets put fully out, it’s a late stoppage🤣 pick one and shut up
@andrewoberg
@andrewoberg 5 ай бұрын
@@xConoooR1idiotic comment
@andrewoberg
@andrewoberg 5 ай бұрын
at least his head didn’t bounce off the canvas he should be fine, disgustingly late stoppage though
@drquack1217
@drquack1217 5 ай бұрын
@@xConoooR1how do you know he said anything about Jiri lol the green stoppage was late and you can’t change that perception so stfu😀
@joehogan8013
@joehogan8013 5 ай бұрын
still less damage than a boxer would take
@bilogskii2216
@bilogskii2216 5 ай бұрын
And with that, power slap should not be allowed in the first place. Dana drop the ball on that one.
@astonprice-lockhart7261
@astonprice-lockhart7261 5 ай бұрын
Funny enough there are people who used to make so much fun of palm strikes and slapping techniques when in reality they can be just as damaging or more than a fist. Especially in the kind of force they produce in the body.
@grahamhill676
@grahamhill676 5 ай бұрын
​@astonprice-lockhart7261 Yeah I mean if you don't break your wrist slapping someone.
@astonprice-lockhart7261
@astonprice-lockhart7261 5 ай бұрын
@grahamhill676 True, but just like there is technique in punching someone as properly as possible. There's technique in slapping or palm striking or any strike, grapple etc.
@mekhilefanis1442
@mekhilefanis1442 5 ай бұрын
Only idiots practice and Watch that sh** t
@HarmonyEdge
@HarmonyEdge 5 ай бұрын
Wait, so Sumo wrestlers are banned in the UFC? 😅
@mainepeart8539
@mainepeart8539 4 ай бұрын
He’s got a really valid point
@tongshingwa4607
@tongshingwa4607 5 ай бұрын
True, that is why more money in boxing than MMA💰💰💰
@alhfgsp
@alhfgsp 3 ай бұрын
That's been changing lately.
@dec1085
@dec1085 5 ай бұрын
Also in mma the hits are far more spread out on your whole body. Also the thicker gloves means you can get hit a LOT more without being knocked out
@MichaelHickey2003
@MichaelHickey2003 5 ай бұрын
The size of the gloves let you hit alot harder without breaking your hand too
@benicioruggieri2843
@benicioruggieri2843 5 ай бұрын
The thicker the glove the hit makes your brain move much more
@Sedeck311
@Sedeck311 5 ай бұрын
Nah that dont mean shit bro theres so many boxers with one punch ko power, boxers hits harder
@dec1085
@dec1085 5 ай бұрын
@@Sedeck311 apart from people like Mike Tyson, how many fights end instantly? Like some might but most would last multiple rounds
@nba_fan7214
@nba_fan7214 5 ай бұрын
And in MMA you can dominate guys on the ground with your grappling which minimizes the overall damage you take. DC himself was a good example of that. Outside of Jon Jones and maybe a couple of others, DC basically mauled everyone he fought and kept them on their backs with his wrestling.
@gabrielsaravia5388
@gabrielsaravia5388 5 ай бұрын
A man with logic
@Xavi_-ux9ts
@Xavi_-ux9ts 5 ай бұрын
Never thought about it in this perception
@Astrophile2345
@Astrophile2345 5 ай бұрын
There is no logic in his statement 💀
@JHJas
@JHJas 5 ай бұрын
@@Astrophile2345 then you werent listening
@ManDrinkingMilk
@ManDrinkingMilk 5 ай бұрын
@@JHJasIt’s true, mma is way more dangerous, their is a reason why when somebody gets knockdown the referee intervenes
@godbIess
@godbIess 5 ай бұрын
​@doggodripjosh.7323 they intervene bc that's apart of the sport
@waywaywaytoostrong6322
@waywaywaytoostrong6322 5 ай бұрын
It’s absolutely true, and boxing you mostly get hit on the head so concussions way more frequent whereas mma you get hit on the body and choked
@falconking9091
@falconking9091 4 ай бұрын
The more rounds in boxing, the more dangerous it is.
@kolowatttz5321
@kolowatttz5321 5 ай бұрын
Dc actually speaking the biggest facts
@akabdullah8422
@akabdullah8422 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 so what?
@naturalmessmessy3460
@naturalmessmessy3460 5 ай бұрын
​@@akabdullah8422nothing MMA nerd
@tat0276
@tat0276 5 ай бұрын
@@akabdullah8422what’s ur follow up? Or did you just get mad that he’s right
@DmanDice
@DmanDice 5 ай бұрын
@@tat0276 Keep in mind youre probably typing to a 12 year old.
@sunilsooklall9429
@sunilsooklall9429 5 ай бұрын
Never heard such a beautiful explanation. I was 1 person who thought mma was more dangerous, now I completely change my mind. And coming from such a legend !
@TrySomeFentanyl
@TrySomeFentanyl 5 ай бұрын
Well then this should be easy
@chiefnkosi7705
@chiefnkosi7705 5 ай бұрын
Do you think a flying knee to the face is better than a straight back hand with gloves to the face? Or is a spinning back kick better than hook with 10 oz gloves to the side of your head? His argument is based on knockdown and count outs, but even he knows that damage happens even when you are on your feet. 5 minute rounds vs. 3 minute rounds means you get a chance to quit on the stool quicker. There are plenty of arguments for both sides
@kerzch672
@kerzch672 5 ай бұрын
@@chiefnkosi7705 most of the medical experts believe that the quantity of punches to your head is more of a risk factor than the power of those punches. In terms of CTE prevalence, MMA fighters are way behind boxers and NFL players. Sure, you are far more likely to suffer an injury in the octagon, but after you retire you're also far more likely to live the rest of your life without forgetting your kids names or hallucinating about being abducted by aliens.
@serkankoldere
@serkankoldere 5 ай бұрын
​@@chiefnkosi7705There aren't "plenty of arguments for both sides" you're just ignorant. In MMA you can win via submissions, leg kicks and lay and pray decisions, all three of which deal no damage to the brain. In boxing you're mostly looking for the knockout. It's pretty obvious that boxing is more damaging to the brain.
@lilshotsfiredaroundtheworld
@lilshotsfiredaroundtheworld 5 ай бұрын
​@@chiefnkosi7705that's not an argument. There are way way more deaths in boxing than in MMA per year, that should be argument enough that boxing is more dangerous. A knee to the face or a spinning back kick to the face may look dangerous (and is) it'll most likely result in a flush ko if u hit ur opponent right, ending the fight. It's dangerous, but completely not as dangerous as repeated blows to the head over and over again, for 30 minutes to an hour straight. If that was the case, then glory kickboxing or Muay Thai would have more deaths than boxing does, but they don't
@TheBoy228
@TheBoy228 4 ай бұрын
Makes sense to why older boxers or in worse shape than older MMA fighters
@sarvanuchoudhury155
@sarvanuchoudhury155 5 ай бұрын
Boxing has killed so many in the ring, so many had to end their careers due to an injury.... It's arguably one of the most dangerous sport out there
@Jinz3
@Jinz3 5 ай бұрын
People forget how hard boxers hit w bigger gloves....
@Laditt
@Laditt 5 ай бұрын
And with smaller gloves too and also elbows are legit like knifes and shins are not fun and when you can punch faster than normally those blows definitely hurt more
@brocksimmons345
@brocksimmons345 5 ай бұрын
Getting hit with smaller gloves is more painful though. Bigger gloves protect the hands but the punches are also cushioned
@John-fn7yt
@John-fn7yt 5 ай бұрын
@@brocksimmons345It’s more painful but less impact. In boxing you’re basically punching with padded dumbells. Basic physics. Getting hit with a motorbike gonna do less damage than a truck.
@crazyk369
@crazyk369 5 ай бұрын
The fact that there's way more rounds in boxing is proof, but MMA is short bursts of brutality
@skindred1888
@skindred1888 5 ай бұрын
The proof is the cte scans. Sure there's more rounds and shorter rounds to allow a boxer to get their wits about them a bit in the corner, however there's a lot more stop and starts in boxing due to clinches and not really being able to do anything. The ref stops the fight in MMA...the ref in boxing have to start the fight
@Braggdad212
@Braggdad212 5 ай бұрын
It’s overall pretty close though as mma has longer rounds. Boxing still lasts longer on average per bout. The big reason is glove type and target opportunities. Boxing can only go to head or body. MMA you can win with never throwing a single punch or kick. I think it’s that availability of target choices to play into making mma safer in general
@megaranger6106
@megaranger6106 5 ай бұрын
Mma has longer rounds but I still agree with it having more short bursts of brutality
@NjoyMoney
@NjoyMoney 5 ай бұрын
@@megaranger6106 What boxing are you watching buddy? They hit each other like 5 times per round
@jrjunior8468
@jrjunior8468 5 ай бұрын
​@wesleylong3279 it's not really close at their best. 5minutes for 5 rounds. - Mma 12 rounds for 3 minutes. - Boxing Mma total of 25 minutes Boxing of 36 minutes That's an 11 minute different of longer fighting and more stamina draining. On average Mma - 3rounds 5 minutes = 15 minutes Boxing - it really depends but it's 10 or less. Usually goes up to 5 - 10 So that would be 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, and 30 So on average, depending on when it ends it can wither be the same or just be that much longer
@user-pc4dc1cl9q
@user-pc4dc1cl9q 5 ай бұрын
he wasn't talking about which one was more effective, its about how the sport is set up...
@nighthawk2k337
@nighthawk2k337 4 ай бұрын
Joe can’t argue with that when it’s coming from a former MMA fighter
@terrys7666
@terrys7666 2 ай бұрын
Joe literally said that like 10 years ago on ESPN arguing with some boxing expert
@prokaneygaming6590
@prokaneygaming6590 5 ай бұрын
He’s right , it’s the repeated concussion that hurts the brain
@davidespadin78
@davidespadin78 5 ай бұрын
The way he explained made total sense to me and i havent done any boxing or mma. I dont follow either sports either
@oneo3Pointfive
@oneo3Pointfive 5 ай бұрын
How did you get to this video than?
@daghetto101
@daghetto101 4 ай бұрын
@@oneo3PointfiveAlgorithm. Joe Rogan’s Podcast are everywhere from Science, Animals, Woman and MMA.
@jayye9051
@jayye9051 4 ай бұрын
Damn talk about calling it straight down the middle fair play DC
@KingNez89
@KingNez89 3 ай бұрын
One of the best, talking about the sport I did for 13 years...from ages 5 to 18 I boxed.....you truly have to be a different breed to step in that square
@RainDrop216
@RainDrop216 5 ай бұрын
Coming from the double champ. Im not gonna argue with him. Shoutout to DC
@AlexG-tp2ik
@AlexG-tp2ik 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely right. It's the accumulation of punishment that leads to tragedies in the ring.
@samstyler8604
@samstyler8604 3 ай бұрын
This is correct, it's a mixture of reasons, an often overlooked one is that boxing has very limited striking surfaces, no leg kicks, no knees to the body from a clinch, no throws or trips or submissions... Most shots are thrown to the head, it's the prime target and takes the brunt of all the trauma. Also boxing gloves are so padded out you are able to punch incredibly hard without as much risk of breaking your hand, all the padding also makes cuts less lieky so the bout is less lieky to be stopped for bad cuts that would happen with bare knuckles or much thinner gloves. Bare knuckle boxing is statistically safer than boxing due to the fact fights are stopped more often for bleeding stopping the guy just getting his brain constantly rattled also fighters have to pick their shots and how hard they throw them to which targets.... You're a lot more careful looking for that knockout blow when hitting a couple of inches too high will result in you shattering your bare/only wrapped hand on your opponents skull.
@kevinbarrera2946
@kevinbarrera2946 5 ай бұрын
The fucking headaches from boxing are no joke
@josh1212121
@josh1212121 5 ай бұрын
100% true. People who've never fought or even just casually trained in either sport are so misinformed to think that MMA is more dangerous than boxing.
@novarupture4582
@novarupture4582 5 ай бұрын
Well it's definitely arguable. The only real danger in boxing is the brain damage, and statistics have shown about 20% of boxers end up with CTE. It's kinda hard to just outright say that's more dangerous than a sport that has potential for the exact same levels of brain damage, plus about 10x more physical injuries. In all reality they have the same levels of danger, it all just depends on the context of the fights, cause I've seen plenty of mma dudes take 5+ knockdowns without the 10 count and are taking strikes during recovery on the ground, same shit as boxing.
@KKOPPONG
@KKOPPONG 5 ай бұрын
Boxing LOOKS safer. MMA has scary looking KO’s. Any head contact is dangerous, consistent taps to the head is progressive:
@KKOPPONG
@KKOPPONG 5 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@novarupture4582no disrespect to you man but it’s not arguable at all dawg. 1stly MMA is a shorter fight with less head contact. A boxing match is almost double the length of an MMA fight. 2ndly boxing has over the waist contact and a majority of that is aimed directly at the head in MMA they have other parts to hit. 3rdly MMA is wrestling and submissions so you can lose a fight without any head contact. 4th MMA gloves are much smaller than boxing gloves so the surface area a boxing glove hits is smaller than the space an MMA glove can hit. Bodily injuries are easily recoverable and have less long term impact, there is no recovery to the head trauma boxing does. Every year professional boxers die in the ring at an average of 13 a year, MMA is less than 3 a year.
@GxCrEaTiioNz
@GxCrEaTiioNz 5 ай бұрын
It's safer because it's MADE that way. MMA is more dangerous overall. Imagine if it had the same rule set as boxing. "OH, you got elbowed and knocked down? Well get the fuck up, the match is not over." It's legit not that hard to understand that rules make it safer, not the style in itself. Quick edit note: To clarify, boxing is no less dangerous than MMA. It is a combat sport, and they all have their price to pay in one way or another.
@diegomanrique5443
@diegomanrique5443 5 ай бұрын
@@KKOPPONG Facts
@WatchfulListener
@WatchfulListener 5 ай бұрын
A wound that keeps getting cut won't heal.
@jackthewinter5066
@jackthewinter5066 4 ай бұрын
Actually there are some researches based on these explanations and usually MMA fighters have less injuries and less post-career damage than boxers So DC has some good points
@JK-zu8gm
@JK-zu8gm 5 ай бұрын
Started out in muay thai and did dutch kickboxing for a few years, then switched over to boxing completely. The amount of concussive damage is significantly worse and the toll it takes is actually heavier altogether.
@creatingaracquet9884
@creatingaracquet9884 5 ай бұрын
Never thought about it that way but he is absolutely right about that.
@billcutting3184
@billcutting3184 5 ай бұрын
He is right changed my mind completely on this matter.
@mexagodtvg8937
@mexagodtvg8937 4 ай бұрын
He explained that so well that MMA fans don’t even know how to respond to dat
@rodericksasu6976
@rodericksasu6976 4 ай бұрын
Because we all agree that it is more dangerous. I don't think it is point to be proud of. Lol.
@fawazplayz7478
@fawazplayz7478 4 ай бұрын
@@rodericksasu6976nuh uh mma fans rlly be trying but they failing
@hnys7976
@hnys7976 4 ай бұрын
He’s an MMA fighter too one of the best of all time.
@xylonbanda
@xylonbanda 4 ай бұрын
We all know this tho, and that's why I like MMA more than boxing. Being a more dangerous sport isn't an achievement to be proud of.
@naif8188
@naif8188 3 ай бұрын
​@@xylonbandaits an acheivement to be proud of cause it takes more guts
@frankkitajima4339
@frankkitajima4339 5 ай бұрын
I agree, more people have died in boxing than MMA, not only has boxing been around longer but the punishment adds up 10 times more when u repeatedly get hit with gloves on bug
@imaginova88
@imaginova88 5 ай бұрын
Unless you get Mario Yamasaki
@dylantorres-brown3718
@dylantorres-brown3718 4 ай бұрын
"And i took this personally" -Herb Dean
@sirRickyG44
@sirRickyG44 4 ай бұрын
Boxers have CRAZY stamina. Respect to MMA fighters though. But boxers 👏
@paulmaksimovic9235
@paulmaksimovic9235 5 ай бұрын
Completely agree. Its the accumulation of the punches that do the job
@user-ht3op9qr6m
@user-ht3op9qr6m 5 ай бұрын
🤣
@eraneli1
@eraneli1 5 ай бұрын
That's a valid argument
@numa2k147
@numa2k147 4 ай бұрын
The years of sparring too. That kills you slowly
@A_Sleap
@A_Sleap 5 ай бұрын
That's a true perspective
@imanualmahida8278
@imanualmahida8278 5 ай бұрын
His answer convince me. I wish I had this conviction in my answers. 😢
@BunnyBUNGALO
@BunnyBUNGALO 5 ай бұрын
I agree 100% ive been saying it for years
@dogetmk2170
@dogetmk2170 4 ай бұрын
Very well explained, DC. This changed my perspective.
@roisvel4438
@roisvel4438 5 ай бұрын
Also the difference between gym etiquette is not what you would expect, in boxing they spar HARD every day. Basically having fights every single day. In MMA gyms there’s more of a more aware culture where light sparring is more common and you only go hard on certain days.
@xhantizamahalamaseyimane5730
@xhantizamahalamaseyimane5730 5 ай бұрын
Boxers die in fights all the time I haven't heard an MMA fighter dying from a fight
@Kamillius
@Kamillius 5 ай бұрын
There have been 26 deaths in MMA as far as I know.One of them is Sam Vasquez who got a seizure after getting ko'ed and another is Booto Guylain who was dead after a head kick but most fatalities are caused by weight draining and collapsing after fights. They didn't occur in UFC or ONE FC so they didn't get much media coverage
@ItsAme7143
@ItsAme7143 5 ай бұрын
​@@Kamilliusit's actually pretty impressive that only 23 people have died in mma, it's gotta be like 2 or 3 hundred deaths in boxing by now lmao I think the average is like 10-20 per year
@mx3x3m
@mx3x3m 5 ай бұрын
but i don’t think ppl are getting their skill cracked and knees blown out in boxing , long term boxing fs but short term i think y can get hurt way worse in mma.
@ItsAme7143
@ItsAme7143 5 ай бұрын
@@mx3x3m that's kind of a perfect take on it
@omarijohnson2318
@omarijohnson2318 5 ай бұрын
@@mx3x3mprobably should look up the statistics first before you comment lol
@tomaszkozlowski5315
@tomaszkozlowski5315 5 ай бұрын
Fight is a Fight Who's best is a winner Never disrespect your opponents
@randy521
@randy521 5 ай бұрын
That's the drama of boxing, the hearts of men.
@reygunner1644
@reygunner1644 5 ай бұрын
The gloves cause more concussions as well.
@giorgoslolos9132
@giorgoslolos9132 5 ай бұрын
Mario Yamasaki:And i took it personally
@frothycarapace969
@frothycarapace969 2 ай бұрын
He has a very valid point
@jaylenterrell5640
@jaylenterrell5640 5 ай бұрын
That's a fair argument
@HoveKB
@HoveKB 5 ай бұрын
Not only that, boxing gloves are heavier and regardless if you think they are “softer” you’re being hit with an additional 4-8oz over the course of 12 rounds, that all matters. Length of fights, damage over time, and continuing to fight while concussed.
@fuzzymuppet1990
@fuzzymuppet1990 5 ай бұрын
I agree , also theres about 6oz of sweat in the big gloves too !
@masscrossout
@masscrossout 5 ай бұрын
Its also easier to parry, evade or block them. Btw incase you guys missed physics in school, the power will spread across much bigger area in boxing gloves compared to much smaller mma gloves. How about elbow to the head ? Or a knee?
@virgilyoung9584
@virgilyoung9584 5 ай бұрын
Those pads are only to protect the skin on your face. But, than same pad actually amplyfies the impact of the punch.
@NYARNAV
@NYARNAV 4 ай бұрын
Gloves only makes your fist safer from the punches you make and it doesn't makes your enemy safer from your punches😂
@shquankinket8068
@shquankinket8068 4 ай бұрын
@@masscrossoutgetting hit by a truck is much worse than a motorcycle. It’s a similar thing here. You don’t know how blunt force trauma works
@24rules187
@24rules187 5 ай бұрын
I can definitely understand his argument, as someone who watches both i can confirm he makes a valid point
@timothysweezey1291
@timothysweezey1291 4 ай бұрын
Bare knuckle fighting has entered the chat
@michelleogrady6709
@michelleogrady6709 4 ай бұрын
Bro waited his whole life to say..
@tyrezallen958
@tyrezallen958 5 ай бұрын
Stoppages save lives that's the difference
@Casandii
@Casandii 5 ай бұрын
He’s right if we’re thinking about head trauma, would you rather you get head kicked one time boom boom done or would you rather get knocked out come back on a eight count and if it wasn’t a lucky shot get dominated throughout the round probably get hit a few more times in the head before they call it or you get knocked out cold he’s right
@iamgaijin88
@iamgaijin88 5 ай бұрын
in some cases there are boxers who died after the match especially after a brutal knockout.
@muhammadalfahri6772
@muhammadalfahri6772 5 ай бұрын
He's absolutely true.
@user-gm5hp6xd1y
@user-gm5hp6xd1y 5 ай бұрын
Every year around the world 4 boxers dies, every year! Which is equivalent of all death in MMA history.
@chaytonhotah1544
@chaytonhotah1544 5 ай бұрын
As a boxer myself who’s been fighting at an amateur level for 4 years I have to say I disagree. I’ve had torn both of my biceps tendons, had broken my ribs twice, and have had numerous concussions (never been knocked out before) during my fights. That’s just from boxing. Imagine competing in MMA with kicking, knees, elbows and on the ground? I have so much respect for MMA fighters for that reason.
@ItsAme7143
@ItsAme7143 5 ай бұрын
I've boxed longer (barely) and I completely agree with this post bc I've done the research before and there's been less than 30 deaths in total in mma.... Idk if you've ever looked up how many people have died in the boxing ring but even when you take into consideration boxing being around longer and do the average per year, boxing doubles it so you can't let your assumptions blind you with bias. Mma might be scarier to you but that doesn't make it more dangerous 🤷boxing averages about 10 deaths a year lmao it's not something to brag about but in my opinion saying mma is more dangerous just bc it sounds more dangerous is kinda goofy
@chaytonhotah1544
@chaytonhotah1544 5 ай бұрын
Well, well, well, looks like both boxing and MMA are in quite the knockout competition when it comes to fatalities and injuries. While boxing may have a longer history with a higher overall number of deaths, MMA seems to be giving it a run for its money with a lower total death count. But hold on tight, because when we shift our focus to sustained injuries, MMA takes the spotlight with higher numbers compared to boxing. That’s all I’m saying.
@ItsAme7143
@ItsAme7143 5 ай бұрын
@@chaytonhotah1544 in terms of injuries? Yea you're right, in terms of fatalities I already explained that the average deaths PER YEAR (that means it takes into account that boxing has been around longer) almost doubles that of mma, so in terms of fatalities no you're absolutely incorrect mma isn't catching up to boxing, gotta do the research if you're gonna say shit like this🤷
@chaytonhotah1544
@chaytonhotah1544 5 ай бұрын
Say shit like what? Read the original comment: I never said MMA had more fatalities in the first place, my opinion is sorely based on injuries. 😄
@Chaosity1
@Chaosity1 5 ай бұрын
A bunch of amateurs who think they are the experts 🤣 boxing has more deaths, MMA has more injuries. Period
@roland0mota
@roland0mota 4 ай бұрын
The size of the gloves makes the difference too... Boxing's large gloves in a study was shown to cause way more brain damage than MMA's smaller gloves
@jayc3479
@jayc3479 5 ай бұрын
There are and have been way more deaths in boxing than in MMA. He's right.
@user-wy3ye5vp9p
@user-wy3ye5vp9p 5 ай бұрын
He’s absolutely right about that
@EjazFahad2008
@EjazFahad2008 5 ай бұрын
People arguing with a man who's a former UFC world champion while they've never punched anyone in their life except the air. It's crazy!
@brightyt7498
@brightyt7498 5 ай бұрын
Looking for this comment 😅
@s.f.f.f.t11
@s.f.f.f.t11 4 ай бұрын
Very true. Repeated trauma is MUCH worse than a singular burst of it.
@nooffence2769
@nooffence2769 4 ай бұрын
Old School UFC players : huhhh, wanna try it my way?
@terrys7666
@terrys7666 Ай бұрын
Yeah them boy's are a different UFC breed. Their still waddling around with the ability to talk shit. By the time boxers hit 60 they can barely talk and move
@b33mer79
@b33mer79 5 ай бұрын
Not to mention 12 rounds of pure headshots
@Nationalistic_Swede
@Nationalistic_Swede 5 ай бұрын
12 rounds of backshots too
@liam_xoxoxo4504
@liam_xoxoxo4504 5 ай бұрын
​@@Nationalistic_Swedeuhh
@themastermind5638
@themastermind5638 5 ай бұрын
Not only headshots, body shots too. There's more body shot KOs in boxing then there are in MMA.
@NjoyMoney
@NjoyMoney 5 ай бұрын
MMA has longer rounds and having more rounds means more time to recover.
@Khoobus
@Khoobus 5 ай бұрын
Body shots, liver shots and even more
@zezeti2246
@zezeti2246 5 ай бұрын
100% on point,in MMA once you're down once you're done,in boxing you keep getting up until you dont😂
@boxingguru4221
@boxingguru4221 5 ай бұрын
Actually explained that really well
@bagelz3359
@bagelz3359 5 ай бұрын
Never heard someone explain this so well.
@kenshin1644
@kenshin1644 5 ай бұрын
He is 100% right
@WhoThisMonkey
@WhoThisMonkey 5 ай бұрын
The secret is to train to never fight. Best of both worlds.
@TheTMschannel
@TheTMschannel 5 ай бұрын
Can't really compete in combat sports without fighting my guy
@WhoThisMonkey
@WhoThisMonkey 5 ай бұрын
@@TheTMschannel You don't need to compete, just be competent enough to not get in fights. If you are planning to just live an average life, that's all you need. Thats the other secret, don't live near other people.
@TheTMschannel
@TheTMschannel 5 ай бұрын
@@WhoThisMonkey Yeah but this video is specifically about competing, so the "secret" can't be to not fight. My point: your comment is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. Unless you think that people shouldn't compete in combat sports.
@topblokehere6579
@topblokehere6579 5 ай бұрын
Very fair point.
@rocketeer101
@rocketeer101 5 ай бұрын
Very good argument. I was like "Whaaat?!" then "Oooh..."
@Cesar1492Enjoyer
@Cesar1492Enjoyer 5 ай бұрын
I’d say MMA is more painful but boxing is more dangerous in the long run
@Lethos_94
@Lethos_94 5 ай бұрын
Alot of people don't understand that being more physical doesn't mean it's more dangerous lol
@EricAusNda
@EricAusNda 4 ай бұрын
For me it’s common sense, that don‘t need to be explained.
@sventherogueknight43
@sventherogueknight43 4 ай бұрын
And the scary part, boxing has more deaths than MMA
@ThekidHBK
@ThekidHBK 5 ай бұрын
This is coming from a ufc champion
@BTRshow
@BTRshow 5 ай бұрын
All i can say is in mma, no one has died inside the octagon. Maybe outside due to complications, but not inside. People die in the boxing ring almost yearly.
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