DCF850 Impact WRENCH - 3/8" Modified!

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The best compact impact wrench in 2024 that doesn't actually exist? DeWalt DCF850 Atomic impact driver is turned into the world's shortest 3/8" impact wrench! There's also a 1/2" version. How do these compare to the untouched version?!
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@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Here are links to buy the 3/8"" anvil: www.oemtoolparts.com/dewalt-parts/dewalt-dcf902f2-type-1-parts/dewalt-n646882-anvil OR www.partswarehouse.com/Dewalt-Anvil-Incl-20-21-DWB-N646882-p/dwb-n646882.htm

@Jay_Ira Жыл бұрын

Did the 3/8 anvil not require modification like the 1/2?

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

It did not - fit right in without modifying the housing!

@Nicky14P Жыл бұрын

Hey, @@PhillyFixed any chance that you could upload a video of a slower tear down and rebuild of the drill? I’m trying to do this mod and am running into some issues. Thank you so much and keep up the great work!

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

@@Nicky14P sure, I could do that. What problems are you having?

@Nicky14P Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed I ended up figuring it out! This mod is outstanding. Having a compact tool like this is so neat. Thank you so much for sharing.

@982Nighthawk1337 Жыл бұрын

Pretty interesting results thanks for taking the time to do this Testing and for sending them to torque test channel. I'm glad to see when you two Collab on a tool or tools. I would be curious to see how well the 3/8 drive would have done without the adapter.

@Jay_Ira Жыл бұрын

Man this is awesome. Great job making these tools and I'm looking forward to seeing our guys at TTC finding out what kind of numbers these will make.

@markm0000 Жыл бұрын

I just did this as a present for myself and it’s 100% worth it. Thank you a million times over. I wish this was sold as an actual product so more mechanics can use it.

@jeffmorefield Жыл бұрын

Cool video Jim! I appreciate your hard work that you put in your videos.

@coltonjacobs5383 Жыл бұрын

It really is cool whenever mods like these are so easy I took the 3/8 gearbox out of a Kobalt impact and slapped it into the XTR 1/4 impact housing. They are the exact same dimensions for swapping the 3/8 into the 1/4 tool, but if you want to swap the 1/4 gearbox into the 3/8 tool, there's some grinding you gotta do I like the higher RPM and IPM of the XTR driver for removing bolts

@boosted2.4_sky Жыл бұрын

LET'S GO!!!☝️ Every comparison that I've seen with a 3/8 versus a 1/2 on the same tool the 3/8 always comes out ahead...

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I thought it was weird on the Milwaukees as well...

@markm0000 Жыл бұрын

Technically yea but if you got big 1/2” sockets the adapter slack is going to eat up your final torque output. That’s why I got the 1/2” for big bolts that need all the power I can throw at it. I use a 3/8” adapter most of the time with smaller sockets.

@yannai0h Жыл бұрын

I modified and used my 850 for the past few month, and I like it alot

@markm0000 Жыл бұрын

How is it holding up?

@danielheald411 Жыл бұрын

That 3/8" is a tiny little beast.

@justmeonlyme Жыл бұрын

Great job!!

@NRP1991 Жыл бұрын

Wow that’s a mix bag in the results I’m impressed with just how powerful it is just in stock.

@brandonspencer300 6 ай бұрын

Whats crazy is you lose a pretty good chunk of torque going through adaptors and the 3/8 still performed way better than the 1/2". Torque test channel showed about 27% loss with 3/8 -> 1/2"(although on a much higher power impact). If you were using 3/8 impact sockets with no adapter you might be able to comfortably remove 300 fl/lb

@toxicbear4792 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video I'm a new subscriber I live in South philly glad to see you

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Welcome!

@xtp6969 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for this video, I waited for someone to test it. When finally will arrive my anvil I'll do it.

@CL-nj3zs Жыл бұрын

You should do a shootout between the 850 with 3/8 anvil and the rigid 3/8 subcompact impact wrench.

@luisinhoens90 Жыл бұрын

yes, I want this too.

@mike_t_007 Жыл бұрын

The new one or the old one? Old one... This tool wins... New one may win as it's been beefed up a bit

@CL-nj3zs Жыл бұрын

@@mike_t_007 my comment was made 6 months ago before rigid updated their subcompact. Regardless if the new rigid can beat the 850 or not, it cant beat the 850 size.

@IMPACT-NATION Жыл бұрын

I died 😂 when you pulled out the Flex. Been so busy with work and my son I missed this one Jim. Just caught the whole vid. Love the mod brother. Looked like that was some pretty tough material to drill

@markm0000 Жыл бұрын

Yolo I’m doing it DCF850 with the 3/8 anvil mod. I got the bigger DCF921 1/2 anvil and it’s cool but I have been working in really tight areas and it doesn’t quite fit so I had to use a hand ratchet. I couldn’t use my electric ratchet since I needed more torque. If I had one of these it would have been super easy.

@rickysweet1036 9 ай бұрын

Hey u should try to see if your able to swap the membrane buttons from the dcf923 onto the dcf850!!! It looks like there's enough space allowed for it...also love the 3/8th drive onto the 850!!! It's my go to now for when working on my truck

@handsomeharold5726 Жыл бұрын

honestly kind of fascinating. I dont really need a 3/8th inch impact, but it would be nice to have for some of the smaller tasks I dont feel like doing by hand. and an 850 adapted would be about 100$ cad cheaper than the 923.

@Joethetoolguy Жыл бұрын

Tool steel is tough unless softened. Good job 😊

@ToolswithSoAlz Жыл бұрын

I did enjoy it sir

@makehasteBrandon Жыл бұрын

Came across an old nicad battery brushed DW051 12 volt 3/8 impact at my local habitat ReStore turns out that is an acceptable anvil to do this mod as well

@stigonutube Жыл бұрын

i did this conversion tonight, what a bugger that inner C-clip was the clip to undo old part 1/4" anvil and the 3speed switch has a little flat metal tension spring retainer for plastic slide button be careful not to lose it and remember to put it back in after disassembly..mine fell out when i opened and had to figure out where it belongs. lol..all good now and up and running with a 3/8" anvil..all in all 158AU for tool and 28Au delivered "aliexpress" for anvil N646882 2 weeks to Australia..tools used a T10 torx bit,couple flat head screwdrivers for c-clip disassembly and little pick or fine knife to lift stickers 3 of them top,bottom and near 3speed switch..

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Nice work! Yeah I could do a follow up with a bit more detail on the conversion, it sounds like you learned all the same hard lessons I did, haha. In fact, the 1/2" is missing that metal piece on the switch and so basically the switch doesn't "click" into each setting anymore, it slides without much resistance.

@stigonutube Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed Thank's..Mate without going into too much detail on c-clip i stabbed myself in palm with small wiha screwdriver hehehe "self inflicted" i dont have circlip pliers small enough so it was the hard way as always ..that 3 speed metal piece i left out at first not intentionally but after assembly there was a piece left over, "you know that DOHH moment" and had to unzip unit again "no big deal"..don't know if i will ever reverse process as there is a lot of parts to reverse process in that 1/4" setup..Thank you for your video did indeed help me to be confident to tackle this project..

@meocats Жыл бұрын

the 1/2 took longer because the hammer is hitting a bigger mass. Drill out the center of the squar like on the Bosch which have integrated 1/4 hex inside

@DEVGRU4ME Жыл бұрын

Can I get a part number for the 1/2 anvil that was used? Thanks!

@ctrlaltdebug Жыл бұрын

Can you do the conversion on the Skil 12v right angle impact? It would be the tiniest right angle impact wrench.

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting thought, but looking at the head housing I don't even think you could get an anvil in there from any impact wrench model...

@luisinhoens90 Жыл бұрын

looks like the 1/2" lag numbers are mixed up in the last chart. That would've put the 3/8" impact even farther away from the other two, which I believe would've tied with the correct numbers. Other than that pretty good content as always.

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Ah, you're right -- but, only a 2 point difference. Good catch!

@rpavlik1 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting results! That certainly does hit pretty hard for an impact driver, the Hart impact driver can do 100lb-ft lug nuts but it takes a while...

@JBPlaysGames1 Жыл бұрын

I still say, the compactness of the 850 is awesome, and would be EVEN BETTER, If they made a 12v version! That with maybe 12v Powerstack? Or even just the 5ah, would be awesome.

@Neukom720 Жыл бұрын

Hey do you think you can 3/8 anvil swap the Hercules HCB81B ???? Any help would be much appreciated!

@darinmacfarland6605 Жыл бұрын

If you get a chance to grab that new kobalt impact driver put it up against the old model 🙏🏼

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Here's a preview! www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRapoq7h/

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

Hey Jim, the problem ins DeWalts quality control is so lax, that you really need to do this test on the EXACT same impact driver, as I purchased 2 850s at the same time and they are vastly different in speed of task.

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

You just have to ruin it!

@h8GW Жыл бұрын

Well, he _did_ have to make modifications to the tool for the 1/2"anvil to work, but I guess you could just swap the metal endcaps along with the anvils.

@markm0000 Жыл бұрын

Yes I also found this to be true. The grease they use from factory isn’t good. It’s supposed to be a little abrasive and help seat components together. After a while the grease wears out, so it’s a good idea to wipe it off and add quality grease. Don’t worry about getting all the old grease out, it will eventually all get replaced by the new grease. I personally grease all my tools every 3 months and they work great.

@TheTurbomopar Жыл бұрын

@@markm0000 disassembly the only way to grease? Will needle greaser work?

@markm0000 Жыл бұрын

@@TheTurbomopar I take it apart and put a thin coating of fresh grease over each of the parts. If you just use a needle greaser it might not get to the very back of the gearbox. I recommend Valvoline Moly Full Synthetic NLGI 2.

@thatdude8247 Жыл бұрын

Bigger sockets give higher numbers would like to see the same test with the same size socket

@meagaindave2049 Жыл бұрын

Maybe I missed it, but what brand of 1/4" hex adapter is being used? That thing impressed me most of all! 😁👍

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

DeWalt, believe it or not!

@meagaindave2049 Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed Hey, aside from saw blades, I like Dewalt accessories. My Makita XPS 1/4" hex-1/2" square didn't last one lug nut last time I rotated my tires. 🤦‍♂️ Of course, I should've used a breaker bar, first. 🤣

@badwabbit1973 Жыл бұрын

is there a 1/4 anvil consersion ? part number? as i have an extra to play with!!! ty for your channel and ideas free to all

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure about a 1/4" anvil... DeWalt actually doesn't make a 1/4" impact wrench that I'm aware of, so you'd have to find one from another manufacturer that fits. Makita and Milwaukee have 1/4" models, for example.

@badwabbit1973 Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed mac tools mcf901 is a dewalt ????

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Sorry, I should have said there's no 20V 1/4" impact wrench. The 12V Mac is basically just the Xtreme impact driver, and the nose housing on that is much, much smaller than on the 850. You could give it a shot, but I doubt it would fit.

@MOZARTF Жыл бұрын

Hi. Thanks for this great video. Could you share the 3/8 anvil part number and where to buy it?

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Just added a pinned comment 👍

@MOZARTF Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed thanks!

@rickysweet1036 8 күн бұрын

Hey u should do a reverse video where u put the 1/4 anvil into the dcf923

@sblspawn3004 10 ай бұрын

I wonder if the DCF921 anvil can be swapped for a 3/8" anvil in the same way? And which model of anvil could be used?

@benperkins2929 6 ай бұрын

Just buy a DCF923 instead

@andrewazaransky6723 Жыл бұрын

Do you have a video of making them??

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

I don't, but the 3/8" is very easy to do.

@CoreyGrandma Жыл бұрын

Which 3/8 anvil would fit into the milwaukee m12 fuel impact driver

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

That's a good question, not sure. There may not be an existing one that fits...

@TURBOWANDS Жыл бұрын

About time you made a video lol

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

You're not wrong 😅

@jasonhull2163 Жыл бұрын

You can buy both impacts in 1/2 or 3/8 in drive...

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

I assume you mean the DCF921 and 923, but they're at least 3/4" longer.

@juanc5149 Жыл бұрын

You know what you must do. You KNOW.

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Do I....?

@alexanderkuras6179 7 ай бұрын

hold the socket it helps

@dirk4926 Жыл бұрын

I don''t think is makes a lot of sense as a 1/2" unless you only have 1/2" sockets. As a 3/8's I like it for it's compact size. However I gave up on Yellow and black tools after being let down too many times. The red ones are just better

@handsomeharold5726 Жыл бұрын

yeah I feel like if you need 1/2" sockets, you are probably doing something that requires more torque/break away torque than the 850 can handle, and would probably just be better off with the 921. for 3/8th inch though this seems like a good idea

@toyotatundra0455 Жыл бұрын

Can you test the Kobalt next Gen midtorque impact wrench against the Kobalt XTR?

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

You mean the XTR high torque? Or a modified XTR impact driver?

@toyotatundra0455 Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed The XTR high torque. I recently watched the next gen kobalt midtorque removing a nut set at 1000ft-pound.

@The_Big_G Жыл бұрын

Awesome video Jim, I bought the 840 and was so happy with it I ended up swapping out/replacing the 1/4 collet for a 1/2 in hog ring anvil on my lightly used 887. Just my opinion but I feel like it actually has more effective impacts with the 1/2 anvil than original configuration and I also just needed a light to light mid torque wrench and my 887 was out of the starting lineup, I was pleasantly surprised how well it performs. Thinking maybe 3/8 anvil comparison might be insightful 🤔

@doctorx8467 9 ай бұрын

will this mod work on the DCF885?

@krazzykiller1 Жыл бұрын

so what happens if you put a 3/8 in a ct9080? or a dcf900

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Explosions, I assume

@TarterSauce Жыл бұрын

I am interested to know how this compares to a DCF923b. What are the differences? I don't mind building this if it is going to be better for me than buying a DCF923b.

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

The 923 definitely has more torque; unless you need something as short as possible I would stick with the 923.

@TarterSauce Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed Okay. That's exactly what I figured. Thanks for the clarification! For my purposes, in 3/8, being more compact is better. I could only find the 850 for $159 but the 923b is $127 on Amazon right now, lol. Any ideas for better priced 850's?

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

@@TarterSauce I remember last January the kit with 5aH came with a free 5aH on a BOGO special, and if you returned the extra battery the whole kit was like $100. Maybe they'll bring that back for the holidays? At Home Depot

@KosmicHRTRacingTeam Жыл бұрын

@@TarterSauce HD has a sale right now. I just ordered. $199 for 4amp and 6amp and fast charger and you get DCF921B for free. People commenting that last time similar sale sold out quickly and never restocked. I would rather the 923 (3/8”) but honestly I would use this more for larger 1/2” sockets anyway

@KosmicHRTRacingTeam Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed similar deal is back. 6amp and 4 amp and charger and get 923b for “free” $199

@derekspencer2185 6 ай бұрын

Where do I or can I buy one

@Dnasty1 2 ай бұрын

I was getting ready to try this on a 1/4" anvil would you recommend this? Or is it possible?

@PhillyFixed 2 ай бұрын

I haven't researched what 1/4" anvils are available - off the top of my head I can't think of a DeWalt 1/4" impact wrench on the market. But, at that size you're probably better off just using a socket adapter, you're not going to get much out of an anvil that small without breaking something.

@Dnasty1 2 ай бұрын

@@PhillyFixed I wanted to use it for light applications like the makita 1/4” impact. I didn’t know dewalt didn’t make one. I just ordered one anvil for the Milwaukee which I’ve heard people are doing swap with. Is it likely to fit the dewalt?

@LLAMA-LLAMA Жыл бұрын

💪…..eh hem, Gen 3 sir. Thanks!

@thelos8093 Жыл бұрын

Can I get the link on how to make it?

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

I didn't do an instructional vid, but for the 3/8" you only have to take the impact apart and replace the collet with the new anvil. Very simple! I think Man Caver Tools did something similar except with a Bosch "freak" style anvil and did a vid on disassembly.

@immanutt4442 Жыл бұрын

Do you sell the 3/8 modified DeWalt tool ?

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

No, but it's really an easy mod to do yourself. No drilling out of the metal housing required for that one.

@orijimi Жыл бұрын

You considering getting a lathe after that headache?

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Nope, I'm considering just never doing metalworking again.

@orijimi Жыл бұрын

@@PhillyFixed Awww. Too bad.

@warmonger9124 Жыл бұрын

I am planning to do that! Lol

@CookieManCookies Жыл бұрын

You should not be using adapters when trying to get accurate measurements for a impact, the looseness of the adapter causes some of the impacts to not get full hammer power. Just a thought...

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

You're not wrong about losses, but try finding a 3/8" drive 1-1/8" impact socket ...

@MATTLEism Жыл бұрын

Man caver tools just did his but with a 2 way anvil.

@Biaanca5036 Жыл бұрын

Oh wow... a hollow anvil 💐 I wonder how much impacting force is lost because of it being hollow

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

It should, in theory, do the opposite. The more mass there is out at the edges of the anvil, the more centrifugal force you get. But a lighter anvil is easier to spin. So you want to balance overall weight with mass on the dogs, basically.

@mrgunn2726 Жыл бұрын

LOL, when woodworkers try to be metal workers 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Not to worry watching metal workers try and work wood is even funnier.

@yannai0h Жыл бұрын

I wonder why Dewalt does not offer this version, maybe longevity issues.

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

I think they just want you to buy the DCF923 instead

@l00nybin Жыл бұрын

Their DCF923B has a ton more power at a very reasonable $140 bare tool (if you look in the right place), and it is not much bigger.

@markm0000 Жыл бұрын

@@l00nybin For someone like me that is working all the time in very cramped equipment, I absolutely need something smaller than the 923. This 850 with the 3/8 anvil is about the size of my fist with a ratchet. I could never break loose something torqued at 212 ftlbs with only one arm and a few inches to spare. This is a massive time saver and I'm barely scratching the surface on where to use it.

@keysautorepair6038 Жыл бұрын

Made myself one 3/8 850 Frankenstein definitely not impressed with any of the new DeWalt brushless motors.

@tedmcdonald3377 Жыл бұрын

😎🛠️😎🛠️😎

@lacombar 5 ай бұрын

You made a mistake in your chart, the 1/2 did 33s not 47 on the 1/2 lag.

@PhillyFixed 5 ай бұрын

Good catch, thanks!

@mos8541 Жыл бұрын

kind of cruel on this vid, i saw in the intro that my 850 was coming out of anesthesia early and you didnt do ANYTHING to help... smFh.. SFMF

@ReefMimic Жыл бұрын

Ow your showing offf omg

@p24t Жыл бұрын

See? SEE?? This is what happens when you use the right f*ing battery!

@yorselrus1996 Жыл бұрын

I dont any comments KZfaq, whats the deal

@PhillyFixed Жыл бұрын

Above the comments area, tap "Newest" instead of "Top" and they should display!

@ToolswithSoAlz Жыл бұрын

It's always ruined in Philadelphia

@kanehoward7050 Жыл бұрын

I thought there would be a video showing how to do the conversion. I couldn't find it, but I got it done anyway. Makes a sweet, compact, ⅜" impact! Thanks for the video and links to make it possible!

@markm0000 Жыл бұрын

I did it a couple days ago and it's the best tool in my entire toolbox. I have a dcf921 1/2 compact and having that extra inch of space really makes a difference. TTC did tests on all of these and this little 3/8 is 70% of the power my 1/2 has while being an inch shorter. What an incredible machine.

@kanehoward7050 Жыл бұрын

@@markm0000 I had a spot that I couldn't get my ½" mid compact in and then that's when I started doing research on the most compact impact. I came across this in my process, and like you, this is my go to impact everytime. I even used it to remove and fasten 24mm lug nuts on my tractor yesterday when fixing a hydraulic line. It's pretty spicy!

@markm0000 Жыл бұрын

@@kanehoward7050 That's so cool! Someday Dewalt will release this and we're going to look at it like "yeah, I had that a year ago" and just laugh haha.

@markm0000 Жыл бұрын

@@kanehoward7050 Also Happy New Year! I hope you set some good goals for next year and stick to it!

@kanehoward7050 Жыл бұрын

@@markm0000 thank you! Have a happy New Year!

@J.Wick. Жыл бұрын

Super cool. I did this to a Kobalt XTR awhile back and submitted it to TTC. Hope to see them do an episode on such things. ⅜ seems to do much better on smaller "wrenches". I also find it to be more versatile than ½ below 400-500ft/lbs. Great video as usual, Jim.

@TorqueTestChannel Жыл бұрын

No spoilers for this Friday! Haha thanks again man