DCS: Mi-24P | by the book | vertical landing IGE

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Virtual Flight Training

Virtual Flight Training

3 жыл бұрын

Short video about the correct technique for a vertical landing in ground effect (IGE) in the Mi-24P. All according to the manual. Some questions and answers below:
Q. When is a vertical landing IGE recommended?
A. You can consider it to be the standard technique. It keeps your speed up at about 40kph until you reach ground effect and an air cushion builds below the helicopter. This way, you require less power for your landing. However, if conditions are hot and high - or if the helicopter is loaded to it's maximum weight, then a running landing is recommended.
If there are close-in obstacles on approach, a vertical landing "out of ground effect" (OGE) must be flown.
Q. What are the main points of this approach again?
A.
1. Starting at 1000m distance / 100m height / 80kph.
2. Descend at 80kph / with about 2m/s / Maximum allowed 3m/s!
3. At 50m lower landing gear and begin speed reduction.
4. At 25m be at 50kph
5. Come into a hover 2-3 meters above the ground
6. Slowly descend to the ground, center cyclic, lower collective, wheel brake on
Q. How do I make my flying and hovering smoother and more stable?
A.
1. Hardware: Buy, mod or build proper helicopter controls. It's essential. Don't use curves or deadzones.
2. Carefully trim the helicopter. On the Mi-24, I recommend to use the second trim variant via the HAT switch. It allows you to adjust the cyclic position stepless.
3. Be ahead of the aircraft. Know how much power you will need in the next 5-10 seconds. Pull collective in advance. If you do it smoothly, you can also work the anti-torque pedals smoother.
Q. How do I keep speed, altitude and vertical speed constant?
A.
1. Manage speed by adjusting cyclic. Manage descent rate by adjusting collective.
When you notice that your speed is dropping, push the cyclic forward slightly and keep it there, until you have reached your desired airspeed. Then pull the stick slightly aft again. If you are using a joystick with springs, I highly recommend the HAT switch trim buttons for this!
When you notice that vertical speed is dropping, adjust collective.
Of course this also works the other way around (if speed or vertical speed increases).
2. Scanning your instruments is very important. But try not to fixate on one specific gauge. Rather do it this way: Look outside - Check forward speed and altitude - Look outside again - Check vertical speed - Look outside...
Q. Is the Autopilot Yaw channel used during approach?
A. No! It does help to stabilize the motion of the helicopter. But it comes with one major drawback: You can not (quickly) tell how much right pedal travel is available during critical phases of flight. Using AP YAW channel on approach can result in the following situation: You are trying to enter a hover, but the helicopter is too heavy. As you pull in more collective, the AP YAW channel runs out of travel and the aircraft starts spinning to the left.
Q. Why do I tend to fly backwards when I start my hover?
A. The Mi-24 hovers "nose low", which is a bit unusual, as most helicopters hover "nose high". Coming from one of these other types, you might be used to this hovering attitude. Try to get used to the visual picture in the Mi-24 and "retrain" your muscle memory!
Q. Why are there no control indicators in the video?
A. In about 99% of the video the control inputs are so small that you would not even notice any movement on the indicator. So, for the immersion I prefer to keep it off.
Q. Which manual is this procedure based on?
A. It's based on the "Mi-24P helicopter crew instruction book 1" in Russian language. I can not share the file, but you will find it, if you search for "Ми-24П Инструкция экипажу". I recommend yandex.ru for searching Russian documents.
More questions? Write a comment!

Пікірлер: 56
@rudelchw
@rudelchw 3 жыл бұрын
I'm loving this "by the book" series 👍 .. your explanations are incredibly clear and the Q&A is probably the highlight of your videos, I'm learning so much .. thanks a lot for sharing your expertise with us 😎
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. This feedback means a lot to me and keeps me motivated to create more content! :)
@MattWagner
@MattWagner 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, Viktor.
@84ceasar
@84ceasar 3 жыл бұрын
The smoothest landing I ever seen. It motivate us all and "slow is fast" is something that comes on my mind watching this.
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dejan. Yes, it's all about control.
@FGCH03
@FGCH03 2 жыл бұрын
Please continue with this vids they are excellent
@CasmoTV
@CasmoTV 3 жыл бұрын
Good job!
@johnnyringo3339
@johnnyringo3339 2 жыл бұрын
I usually do not comment but I have to. Your video was, perfect you didn’t turn 4 min video into a 20 min lecture. Thank you
@FGCH03
@FGCH03 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@sanderossi8013
@sanderossi8013 Жыл бұрын
Smooth! Well done!
@mj.funfly381
@mj.funfly381 3 жыл бұрын
excellent demonstration and explanation! Much appreciated!
@Molevitch
@Molevitch 3 жыл бұрын
Another great nugget of concise tutelage, great work, Viktor!
@thunderace4588
@thunderace4588 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make this video lesson for us.
@kebs_pl7741
@kebs_pl7741 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing ! Thank you for that information about the manual. Love it :)
@Lasitka
@Lasitka 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative and to the point.
@Iriton1
@Iriton1 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect landing. Great explanation - may be the best I have seen so far. THX! :-)
@Isimus
@Isimus 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic videos. Many thanks! Subscribed!
@richjones859
@richjones859 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content and the description notes are great!
@Morrov
@Morrov 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, as always!
@jep1103
@jep1103 Жыл бұрын
Then there's me....seesaw ride to hell 😄 Great flying Viktor
@BTKCuk
@BTKCuk 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Would it be possible to add the controls indicator on future videos please? It would be nice to see how much pedal was added on the turn to final, and collective position when approaching IGE etc.
@SVgamer72
@SVgamer72 3 жыл бұрын
Great series!!
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@crashmetwice
@crashmetwice Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video! Thanks for sharing and taking the time making it. However, haven't seen any new ones for quite some times. Are you still simming?
@mavicpilot_8121
@mavicpilot_8121 3 жыл бұрын
Damn smooth!
@gamesmasher9677
@gamesmasher9677 3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel just subscribed
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@craigmoran893
@craigmoran893 3 жыл бұрын
You made that look easy.
@Jpecky131
@Jpecky131 Жыл бұрын
Hi Viktor, great videos! Do you have any plans to follow up with a video on out of ground effect/ steep landing approach?
@picure
@picure 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a by the book startup with all the checks and stuff? Great video series!
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, complete startup is on the list. However quite a few systems don't work yet. The module is still early access. Once all the stuff works, I will make a video!
@picure
@picure 3 жыл бұрын
Virtual Flight Training Looking forward to it! Thanks!
@WillyPete
@WillyPete 3 жыл бұрын
Good work. Do you have any information about the Pedal Damper switch, it's intended use and how it affects the sim?
@varanzmaj
@varanzmaj 3 жыл бұрын
These are great, but why not use the CTRL + ENTER controls indicator so that we can see what you are doing with the pedals, cyclic and the collective?
@Crysinator
@Crysinator 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question about helicopter flight in general: Is a coordinated flight (centered ball) or minimal drift angle more important? I can't seem to have both under normal weather conditions and at crusing speed and altitude.
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Timo! I have not yet found a right or wrong here. But the Russian manuals lean towards "ball centered". Drift is a big issue on the Mi-8 and much less on the Mi-24, because of the fuselage / tail geometry and aerodynamics.
@Crysinator
@Crysinator 2 жыл бұрын
@@virtualflighttraining9694 Thank you very much for the info.
@elwatari3934
@elwatari3934 Жыл бұрын
Thats the directional straight and the other one is the aerodynamical straight. If you fly straight and in your direction at your course everything is fine but expect the drift. Generelly they flex the "straight" means it must not always centered
@rubensosabetancor687
@rubensosabetancor687 3 жыл бұрын
Hi victor, very good video! just wondering how do you get the the doppler indicator OFF light to work? many thanks in advance
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ruben. I have not made any specific settings. It just works correctly on my side.
@HaVoC117X
@HaVoC117X 3 жыл бұрын
Thx you very much. But I like to have access to the pilots manual myself! Does somebody have a link or source?
@sorcer3r17
@sorcer3r17 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorials. Does the Mi24 manual also say something about trimming the Hind ?
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. There can you be more specific? What would you like to know about the trim system?
@nabilnabilnabilnabi1
@nabilnabilnabilnabi1 3 жыл бұрын
very informative, could I ask where did you find a Mi-24 operational Manual ? the only thing I found so far is either russian or Mi-35 english manual
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
Hey. As far as I can tell, there is no English Mi-24P manual in the internet. I work with a Russian one.
@kebs_pl7741
@kebs_pl7741 3 жыл бұрын
I found pdf version with text not scan. I auto translate it with google. :)
@JoJo-vm8vk
@JoJo-vm8vk 3 жыл бұрын
Here there is one. I downloaded it, it's ok. Not a lot of illustrations though ! forums.eagle.ru/topic/274962-manual/?tab=comments#comment-4708413 This one is short and about another variant of the Hind, but there are some valuable data missing from DCS Early Access manual. forums.mudspike.com/uploads/short-url/hvmaFo4ldpeMhmvlgCDRGwb30pM.pdf
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoJo-vm8vk Wow, thank you so much. This is fantastic!
@nabilnabilnabilnabi1
@nabilnabilnabilnabi1 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoJo-vm8vk Thanks alot for these awesome Manuals !!!
@-knight-7008
@-knight-7008 3 жыл бұрын
do you use a normal rudder when flying or auto trimming rudder as you flying
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Knight. I'm using a set of original Mi-8/Mi-24 flight controls. It's still WIP and at the moment the pedals have no springs and only dampening / friction. I do not use auto trimming and never used it, even when I still had pedals with springs. I find it important to feel how much right pedal travel is left at all times.
@gamesmasher9677
@gamesmasher9677 3 жыл бұрын
Can u make a video about QRH and emergencys landing
@virtualflighttraining9694
@virtualflighttraining9694 3 жыл бұрын
What does QRH stand for in the context? Quick reference handbook?
@gamesmasher9677
@gamesmasher9677 3 жыл бұрын
@@virtualflighttraining9694 yess!
@capricerocketman1207
@capricerocketman1207 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a discord?
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