Thank you for watching and Tolerating my horrific gunnery in the Mig-15. Thanks to Feisty for helping out and don't forget to support the channel at teespring.com/stores/growling-sidewinder-store

"One round from my 37mm can kill him" *gets hit by like 2 .50 cal rounds* "Wellp. The MiG quit on me..."

F-86 also had a radar ranging gunsight, which meant it could put rounds on target at longer ranges than the MiG-15.

It seems like in this dogfight he used the position of the sun to blind you a lot when you were lining up. At least it happened to many times enough to be more then just a coincidence.

Man this Fiesty is an amazing pilot. You both are. I love your videos, for me it's better than watching any sporting event. Keep them coming!

One of the most instense and longest dogfight I've ever seen

If there’s one thing flying the Sabre has taught me about the MiG 15, it’s that you should have just done multiple vertical loops until he gave up in disgust. ;)

I love the gunfights in the older jets. I feel like it really takes more skill and effort, i guess that's why it feels so rewarding. Awesome man, love this channel.

I love when you fly against feisty. Because you're so annoyed by his jinky ways. You can hear him giggling as he pulls that stuff off.

An absolute legendary dogfight. Probably the best I've seen on your channel yet! Your knowledge of every planes strengths and weaknesses is astounding. You're making me want to venture into DCS territory. I've been all WarThunder sim and IL2 BOS up until now. Thanks for the great content!

Why didn't you eject after losing control? Great match by the way and I just ordered two of your mugs.

Really enjoyed the dogfight lots of humourous moments, which made me laugh. Thanks again GS for sharing with us all :)

For the record, "5,200 lbs of thrust plus all-flying tail" indicates that we're talking about an F-86E. The significantly superior F-86F (with 5,900+ lbs of thrust plus slightly larger wing) started equipping USAF units in Korea in early 1953. It was both faster and more maneuverable than the F-86E.

Really liked the intro in this episode, in which you explained the history of the respective aircraft. That included their advantages and disadvantages. Great idea and definitely better than previous videos that do not contain such an intro.

Better than any "Dogfights" episode; Absolutely love your work man

That was super fun to watch. My grandfather was a Korean War vet which also makes this kinda cool to see... Definitely do more of these Korean war era videos .

Watching this I was reminded of a low flying pilot who reported a bird strike. When they check out his jet the ground crew said that if it was a bird strike then it was still in its nest because all they found was bits of twigs.

I think it's funny that you posted this video today, when I had been watching various DCS Sabre videos yesterday afternoon. XD

I'm 10 mins in and this seems to be your best video yet. I will have to watch the rest later, can't wait to see how this works out. Great job showing when to exit scissors!

"SINGLE SHOT THROUGH THE ENGINE BLOCK"

Educational as always, @Growling Sidewinder. Nicely done.

This was EXCELLENT.The graphics,the details,the narration.I give you my highest accolades.Good DAMN job fellas'-I felt like I,was in the cockpit-

Been waiting to see if you'd jump in the older stuff. great video

I like the color settings you chose for this fight. I can tell the colors are quite "Vivid". Making the cockpit of your aircraft "Pop" more than usual. Your mic quality is doing better than ever aswell. And, for the people who don't know the difference between these two beasts of an aircraft have been told their pro's and cons. Thanks for that. As per usual, keep up the good work.

This is a cool new format, love the editing and thorough background of the aircraft. The Korean war is always overlooked but the aerial battles in that war outclassed the Vietnam war if you ask me. Vietnam was all missile shots. By the way, when you were talking talking about him flying fine without an aileron, didn't you win a dogfight against an f-5 with one elevator??

This was awesome! Please do more of these!

After eating so much grass, the MiG's engine just couldn't handle some .50s, lol. With a 10 minute dogfight, there might not be physical exhaustion on your end, but I bet some mental exhaustion was setting in.

Excellent vid once again! Keep them coming.

A nice video. Thank you for sharing.

Great video !

Need more of this. Definitely my favorite era of dog fighting.

So ENJOYABLE!! Thank you!

Very good and informative video, thanks!

Man, everytime I see you "trying to eject" like at the last second I want to send you the "Ejection : A Second Too Late !" US Air Force training film from 1989 ! 🤣

What an amazing fight! Nice job guys!

Very good video. Nice intro. Beautiful graphics. And entertaining dogfight. That tree Dodge was incredible. And BTW you were flying at low altitude which is where the sabre performs better, so you did well. I think IRL these planes were equivalent and maybe the Mig was better but pilot skill makes the biggest difference.

Feisty is clearly a fantastic pilot, but even so that was an incredibly close fight

thats some of the best flying ive seen yet to quote top gun but yea both of you guys awesome is that 25.6 it looks great 2

Thank you this was fun to watch, great work avoiding them trees, lol.

WOW love this video man! Just awsome!

I love these videos, I just wish I had more time/energy to watch them.

Read the book "A MiG-15 to Freedom", about the korean defector. It paints a very grim picture of the Mig15bis vs Sabres. The Sabres had a radar gunsight which gave them a huge advantage over the Mig15bis. Due to this the sabres had a much longer effective range for their guns.

Great content as always, now jump in the Sabre!

I love how you always tell the history pf the planes ❤️

It's always nice to get a little history lesson thank you 🍻🍺

Please continue making videos like this they are very fun and interesting

Nice dude! In the 1970s my grandfathet received a shot down Egyptian Mig 15 for his contributions to the IAF. I grew up literally playing in its cockpit in my backyard

Nice video:)

Good fight, great video. Very funny.

Great video and commentary. Don’t forget the Russian WW2 veteran pilots on the N. Korean side. This is one of the most iconic match ups in aerial combat history. My neck hurts from following the action. One of my cherished moments was watching this in person at an air show at Planes of Fame in California. Wonderful sounds as those two jets went at it!!!!

Nice! Finally You come to the Korea! I hope that You will post in the future more Korea fight and also some Warbirds cause I feel they are more entertaining and with a little more skill involved. Thx.

I've been waiting for this for so long

What a battle! Dude was a wizard in that Sabre!

I read a book about aerial dogfighting between Mig 15's and F-86's in the Korean War when I was 15 in 1975. Thanks for bringing it full circle.

Very cool, please do more early stuff, if you like. I tend toward the earlier aircraft, so as long as you're willing to make them, I'm sure as heck going to watch them. Lol. On another note, I really do like the lighting tweaks ED did. I think they need a bit more tweaking, but that 15's cockpit looks like a whole new thing with what they did to the lighting.

Love your videos sir, fun and informative o7

you could be the top gun instructor by now buddy, thanks!

Please do more battles like this! :)

Spitfires next? cough cough..... This was cool dude enjoyed it loads.

And, yes, please do more of this Korean War stuff. Such a huge fan of those planes. Would love to see you and Feisty trade planes!

In my youth ('93) in Tustin California I went to a airshow to see a mock dog fight between these 2 aircraft. For some reason the Mig pilot became sick (we were told) and the F86 Pilot decided to do a demo in the Saber. On the second loop it was clear something was wrong and he came down with a nose up but continued to fall. Pancaked on the runway 300 some meters right in front of me. I remember the smoke being yellow and orange. That memory has been seared in to my brain since. 5 years later a entered recruitment training at San Diego

12:00 He knew you would dip down on the deck in the next section. Nice setup. Or the missing alerion used the force to help him lol.

+1 Growling Sidewinder - I really enjoyed this one-on-one guns only dual since the planes are fairly evenly matched and pilot skills as well as a bit of luck determine who flies home to fight another day. I do wonder how long the average dog fight lasted over N. Korea back in the day. Also wonder how common duals like this were with no wingmen present.

intense. i also appreciate the history lesson in the beginning.

Again, a great video to watch before I go to bed. As I said before; I love your clips, they are educational, intuitive and also bring some history to showcase the rivalry between Mig's and every other American made aircraft. But I do have two questions, first; how do you play this game? most of my gaming I played on Xbox, and currently, I'm overseas can I play this game on Xbox. second, can you make a video about the Iraq-Iran war of the 1980s? Mig 21 vs Tomcat, it was a very long war, and both sides used the air-force extensively. Thanks for your time. Vr Haz

Ohmygawd!! That "Holy shit!" moment and your laugh is the absolute BEST!!

That 37mm was devastating. Pretty crazy idea but it worked lol. I love MiGs.

Absolutely loved this. My Grandfather was a mechanic in the Airforce during Korea, he would tell me how he would use to work on the f-51 aircraft ( Thats P-51 until the airforce separated from the Army). I don't know if you recreated P-51 vs Mig-17 dog fights. How all the poor P-51 pilots could do was roll out of the way.

Awesome demo of classic F-86 vs Mig-15 dogfight... ED needs more of this kind of coverage to include Korea & Vietnam units/maps.

There's one of these on display at a little park in south Whitley Indiana I used to play at as a kid

I have been waiting for this

Nice. Ive been flying the Sabre and it is very tough to defeat Mig 15s, one advantage I think I have is the Sabre's radar-gyro gunsight, can be useful at longer ranges.

#GrowlingSidewinder I’ve had so much fun watching this video as I do for every video you post but this one is a bit sentimental cuz I’m really into Korean era fighters 😊 so please if you make it into a series that’d be extra special. Moreover I’ve always heard that the mig has an extra edge in terms of maneuverability but the fast roll rate of the Sabre made it almost impossible to hit I don’t know how Russian and Korean pilots managed to down some Sabres

That was interesting!

The F-86 is empirically faster. It can be safely flown past the sonic barrier; the MIG-15 not so much. This basically means that the F-86 has the ability to disengage by diving and reaching speeds the MIG-15 cannot. That is a huge deal.

Love the Korean War Jet fights! This was one of the best! I hate rooting against you when you choose a Soviet Jet but I gotta....LOL

Good stuff.

If pause at 13:30 you can see Darwin waving at him. The look one the squirrels faces are priceless. Who knew their eyes could open that wide... 13:50 Oh crap. Looks like Karma tried to get in on some of that action as well.

I feel like I'm watching war thunder game play keep up the great work

One other thing, i cant remember in the video if you mentioned it or not (im very tired while typing this), the f86 was loaded with tons of ammo, while yes they needed more of it to put a mig down, they could still afford to spend the ammunition while pursuing a target. The mig on the other hand, while it had hard hitting cannons, had a low ammo count and had to use it sparingly. Also, as another commenter mentioned, the f86 had a radar assisted gunsight while the N.Koreans had to lead their targets manually

When you say 1 circle and 2 circle fights what exactly do you mean? If you did a video on that, it would be amazing. Just found the channel and it's awesome

If I'm correct, the cannons on the MiG-15 were built for bomber interception purposes, but not really for dogfighting. On the other hand, the F-86 Sabre only had the 50 calibers for dogfighting purposes.

I love the MiG-15 but one thing I have definitely noticed is speed management is very important. When I get an F-86 slow/jinking I either use airbrakes or just go vertical.

Wow, What a great fight! Having 2 evenly matched pilots shows how even the planes are. If each of you exploit your advantages to and equal degree, you get a prolonged fight where the slimmest margin is the difference in the fight. Man, Feisty played that to perfection. Kudos to both of you.

This really comes down to pilot skill they are very close, I'd give the edge to the sabre but it really is going to be who makes the most mistakes.

Great intro

Fair play to that guy, damaged fairly early on but kept fighting the platform and in the end got a successful conclusion.

Really great fight!

I didn't hear the Mig-15 air brakes. Have you been using it ? There is a button on stick to deploy them and when you release the button they retract, so I think they were pretty much used on combat. That helps a lot to prevent overshoot on rolling scissors. Also they are electromagnetic so they are fast

First time I've seen you shot down. All hail Feisty ;)

Nice video, fun stuff. He was pulling good moves. Keep in mind the MiG has a slower stall speed, and decelerates better, like you said. If the Sabre is low & slow in front of you like that, and you have closure, all you have to do is get slow early enough to prevent an overshoot-- pop the breaks, manage throttle. You'll win the race to 0, there's nothing he can do but go in, or give you time in the gunsight. But MiG's handling changes pretty dramatically with fuel load, which may have been a factor here. Not sure what you had it set for.

Really cool

Excellent

What a cool fight, I totally love the early jet era. Could you please design some kind of small missions like defending bombers and getting into dogfights or destroying ground targets and destroy defenders? That would be really awesome to see. By the way, why are you always ejecting so lately?

Very interesting video. One advantage of the F-86 armed with six .50 cal. guns is that it carried around 1,800 total rounds. In a sustained dogfight as displayed in your video, the F-86 can get in more shots without worrying about running out of ammo as quickly as the MIG-15. At approx. 3,600 total rounds per minute firing rate (600rpm per gun x 6 = 60 rds. per second in one second bursts), that is 30 times the F-86 could take iffy shots and hope for a lucky hit, as happened in your video. Also, as in your video, it only takes one good hit to disable a sophisticated, modern jet aircraft. Since the development of the German Me-262, all jet aircraft are crammed with essential parts that require all of them to operate correctly in order to function. One little bitty bullet hole in the right place will doom the aircraft. Americans also used Armor-Piercing Incendiary bullets that easily penetrated the MIG's. Due to the high operating temperature and pressure of jet engines, one hole in a fuel, hydraulic or oil line will eventually disable the aircraft. Gun-camera footage from the Korean War showed the vapor trails from wounded MIG's that didn't make it back to their bases. Great video series, keep them coming!

Korean War stuff is great! And the Mig vs. Sabre duel is maybe the best matchup in all of air combat history.

im sure you get this alot but, what are your thoughts on warthunder? I play alot of the mig-15 on there and learned alot and feel like ive improved my game from this video. love the content

The North Korean MiG-15s all had a large white stripe painted down the middle of the control panel. According to the MiG pilot who defected, he motioned to Chuck Yeager (when Yeager was testing the MiG) with his hand as if the aircraft was in a spin. He was then motioned as if he was pushing the stick against the white stripe, made a circle with his finger, then held up 3 fingers, then motioned with his thumb as if to say bail out. Yeager got it; in a spin, push the stick against the white stripe, then after 3 more spins with no recovery, get the hell out. A pretty unstable aircraft just getting close to the edge of the flight envelope.

When I see this I think about a show my grandparents loved JAG. One episode a F-14 finds its way into Cuba and one of the lawyers used to fly them. One guy says we don't want certain people to know what makes the tomcat so deadly. Lawyer: "the pilot." The F-86 had a 10 to 1 kill ratio despite on paper the Mig appearing to be its equal. The pilot training was clearly in favor of the US. Again in the Vietnam War, F-4 had problems, but training was lacking as well. The navy focused on training and the air force focused on the plane. The navy saw improving kill ratios while the air force did not. The pilot is still a very important factor. Makes me glad our people train against the best German pilots who are flying Mig-29s

Man that pilot would be absolutely exhausted after that.