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De La Soul: Signing to a Major Label Is Slavery

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9 жыл бұрын

www.vladtv.com - The phenomenal Hip-Hop trio that is De La Soul has been nourishing the genre since the late '80s, and during a recent sit down with VladTV they discussed the ramifications of their successful Kickstarter campaign to fund their upcoming album.
A joyful Maseo opens up the convo about the group's prosperous path with Kickstarter and says, "You know, I told somebody this is the best record deal I ever had." Soon Trugoy the Dove adds his perspective on how securing funds from Kickstarter dramatically differs from that of a traditional record deal from a label like E1 Music, formerly known as Koch Records.
"Koch is an entity and a corporation, or a company that's going to invest thinking that they're going to get a return. Kickstarter is the fan that wants to hear an album from you and doesn't expect any profit, other than the music. That's it," proclaims Dave.
This incredible account from De La Soul also includes other provocative subjects like dispelling the myth that the group is financially strapped, why signing to a major label is akin to slavery, and the beautiful opportunities that a supportive fanbase can offer.
Check it out up top.

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@jfraz1992
@jfraz1992 9 жыл бұрын
Cutting the middle man out & communicating directly to your fans is the way
@71dhwand
@71dhwand 8 жыл бұрын
These guys are too intelligent for the industry and that is why I will always look up to De La Soul !!! One of the greatest groups in Hip Hop.
@purge2--u--nite342
@purge2--u--nite342 Жыл бұрын
Cube knew since NWA
@ricocrockett370
@ricocrockett370 7 жыл бұрын
I would have no problem paying kick starter for an official Nas and AZ collaboration album
@ihpron
@ihpron 7 жыл бұрын
Rico Crockett this.
@MISTERMOODYHYADD
@MISTERMOODYHYADD 9 жыл бұрын
Memphis Tn. 1997 I think: De La Soul, Goodie Mob & Fishbone all on one bill. One of the best shows I've seen.
@Mugicha808
@Mugicha808 6 жыл бұрын
Damn lol what a lineup. Jealous.
@cheddykruger7721
@cheddykruger7721 5 жыл бұрын
Dope! Im frrom East Beckley, WV...I Lovvvee Memphis...My aunt lived in Raleigh-Egypt directly behind the high school...use to come there every summer... Nothing like The Memphis In May Music Festival...
@CeroneGamesGo
@CeroneGamesGo 9 жыл бұрын
This is the beginning of the end for record labels. When you give the people the freedom to decide what they want to promote and hear. You begin to realize that many of the music today is manufactured crap. I support Del Le Soul and any other artist that has a message in their music.
@nycsongman9758
@nycsongman9758 3 жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting that major-label, monster-selling, mega-acts like Imagine Dragons, Bruno Mars, Ariande Grande, Ed Sheerhan, et al *aren't* putting out quality, and well-promoted music that their fans absolutely *love?*
@Kadditheproducer
@Kadditheproducer Жыл бұрын
U predicted that shit.
@RickRijuanaPro
@RickRijuanaPro 8 жыл бұрын
Studio time, beats, mixing the vocals after you record the song, mastering the song after you mix the vocals, radio promotion, gas, the image fans like, pr, street team, video shoots, videographers, editing videos & I know I'm leaving something out cost money. An artist won't survive paying for all those services if they give out FREE music.......
@662chillin
@662chillin 8 жыл бұрын
+Rick Rijuana Productions I've said this for a while. This is why the Nicki's, Pitbull's, Flo Rida's, Drake's, etc. don't rap like they used to when they first came out. People won't buy and support them when they were dropping quality music so they had to go to doing pop music. Now imagine if you are an indy artist/label and even people that know you/like your music always expect a free mixtape but won't pay 99 cents for a single
@ScarlettFevers
@ScarlettFevers 4 жыл бұрын
Rick Rijuana Productions chance the rapper has never sold any music, and he isn’t signed to a label.... u can do what u want if u know ur business shit, and what it is that ur trying to achieve
@OfficialKonSite
@OfficialKonSite 9 жыл бұрын
If Tribe did this I'd support them today. #ATCQ
@rbleaks818
@rbleaks818 7 жыл бұрын
Official Kon We Got It Right Here... Thank You 4 Your Service just dropped and is possibly their best album since the first three albums
@ftw7813
@ftw7813 4 жыл бұрын
Tribe is solid. They don't need a kick start to make things happen. They need inspiration and energy.
@poetparagraph
@poetparagraph 9 жыл бұрын
Makes a lot of sense...jewels upon jewels here.
@spraygangmusicgroup9371
@spraygangmusicgroup9371 9 жыл бұрын
I dont know how to message you. Im sorry for adding that song on your page. I just made this profile and wanted to share with anyone. I didnt know the song was thought as of negative, but your right. I was just trying to promote my song. Ididnt read your profil, I should have first
@Kwaku211
@Kwaku211 8 жыл бұрын
Classic Group, The Grind Date is a very underrated LP ;-)!
@RoninAli1
@RoninAli1 8 жыл бұрын
Word! That's grown man HIP-HOP right there.
@The3rdGunman
@The3rdGunman 8 жыл бұрын
+Kwaku “RAP NINJA” 11 That joint with MF though!
@gregc7699
@gregc7699 6 жыл бұрын
Kwaku 11 that album is amazing classic imo
@Mannyr-bu7qv
@Mannyr-bu7qv 4 жыл бұрын
We all need a little church
@JustRicky
@JustRicky 9 жыл бұрын
I don't know this is on accident or what, but De La Soul in the late 1980s changed hip hop and looked to do it again. From sampling to self-fund raising.
@suave_d
@suave_d 8 жыл бұрын
+dznutz1971 Yo, very good analysis.
@beatnuts1uk
@beatnuts1uk 6 жыл бұрын
Yep...shame that the album sucked ass - maybe if they had the pressure of turning in a product that needed to sell, they would have tried harder...
@malikomar9758
@malikomar9758 6 жыл бұрын
Just Ricky! This is the new way of owning your creativity. It’s a unique way to cut out the third man. God bless De Le Soul
@regulardave2975
@regulardave2975 9 жыл бұрын
Along with other benefits, we get the exact album the artist want to make, without any outside influences. For artist like De La, this is perfect.
@LloydJamesWu
@LloydJamesWu 9 жыл бұрын
I remember years back it was the main thing to get signed,you're favourite artist got signed and you'd b like "fuck ye he/she is signed,they made it!!!". Independent seems to be a lot better,can almost do what you want. Maybe have to work a bit harder but its better
@howardcho8426
@howardcho8426 9 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah, I believe (in the future), we will have "curated content" by way of record labels, or some other entity. In other words, signing to someone like Duck Down, currently, lets you know that they believe an artists is of a certain caliber/quality. Therefore, when you buy a record from Duck Down, you know that the artists are going to be in a similar vein.
@russelladams7134
@russelladams7134 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah . It seemed like in the late 1970's and early 1980's a rapper would be so happy to get signed to a major label. They knew how to make music and produce beats but didn't know the business. Now today artists are doing the independent route.
@Kickinthescience
@Kickinthescience 8 жыл бұрын
Take a note from Prince
@quanbrooklynkid7776
@quanbrooklynkid7776 8 жыл бұрын
+dznutz1971 Smh wow
@russelladams7134
@russelladams7134 8 жыл бұрын
Like how TLC was selling a lot of records but was still broke.
@rodneyhodge892
@rodneyhodge892 Жыл бұрын
I love De la soul I hope they get everything they deserve..all that hard work rest in peace Trugoy the dove true legends..they came out when hip hop was great..
@Mikepepp2
@Mikepepp2 8 жыл бұрын
The fact that the quality of music has fallen and music especially rap has become devalued. Signing a record deal now is just selling your soul. Labels owners are also radio, magazine and television controllers, all owned by same corporations which dictate who will be stars. And dictate who will be famous. If you don't fall into that mold of your okay with signing your life away in a 360 deal, go independent its work hard work but the rewards are freedom. No one is selling records anymore. Show money is how artists eat that's why rappers are always dropping mix tapes to stay relevant so they can continue to tour. Same situation with label deal but they get a cut from everything you do, merchandise,tour,commercials,shoe ,clothing deals song and album features with other artists. If independent all other avenues of revenue belong to you so . 3 cent per album selling 100,000 on major label or 4 dollars per album selling 15,000 albums sold independent you make more independent.
@ButterscotchCloud
@ButterscotchCloud 9 жыл бұрын
Dave and Mase make great points about people nowadays not wanting to pay for music. There's this messed up sense of entitlement folks seem to have. And that's part of why the music industry is in the state that it's in right now.
@KSonNS
@KSonNS 9 жыл бұрын
***** why not give the music free and charge for shows
@ButterscotchCloud
@ButterscotchCloud 9 жыл бұрын
...is this a serious question?
@Ilovechicago100
@Ilovechicago100 9 жыл бұрын
It's sad! Internet killed all that. It's easy access now.
@KSonNS
@KSonNS 9 жыл бұрын
take it back they have expensive features and their production game is on point i get it now, they cant rap for shit tho
@ButterscotchCloud
@ButterscotchCloud 9 жыл бұрын
I see that your username is A Subjective Perspective, but how could you listen to Stakes is High (hell, the entire album), I Am I Be, Breakadawn, Much More, etc. and say they can't rap for shit? Just curious, who are some of your favorite emcees?
@BOOTSILLACLASSICS
@BOOTSILLACLASSICS 7 жыл бұрын
de la deserves this kickstarter fund. Salute
@0Lu.Lu0
@0Lu.Lu0 8 жыл бұрын
10:42 you can thank Steve Asshole Jobs for that mainly. Yeah it's mostly the Millennials I see with that attitude, like, WTF these are the same ones who talk like music is their life but they don't wanna pay for pricelessness. This is one reason why I've often said for several years now that I think those of us born in the 70's are the last generation of those with solid music appreciation skills, handed down to us from our parents for some time to come.
@662chillin
@662chillin 8 жыл бұрын
+Lulu Centeno I agree with most of what you said but I think those born in the early-mid 80s appreciate it as well. Remember that a 14-16 year old in 1996 definitely appreciates what they had during that time compared to now (that's the demo I'm in)
@71dhwand
@71dhwand 8 жыл бұрын
Man I say this all the time. Good to see someone with the same mind set. I am proud to be a 70's baby !
@cesarbaca
@cesarbaca 6 жыл бұрын
That shows just how much we all love you De La👊🏽
@rikers263
@rikers263 6 жыл бұрын
De La Soul one of the most ground breaking groups ever and 30yrs later they still going... amazing. I put on their project and I haven't heard a de La song no lie in probably 20yrs.
@HipHopBeatSource
@HipHopBeatSource 8 жыл бұрын
Trying People is STILL one of my favs. All the joints DILLA did for them was just... classic. Long live De La Soul.
@jman1562001
@jman1562001 9 жыл бұрын
Slavery is a term thrown around too loosely these days. Debt bondage is more specific to what they are talking about, where one pledges themselves against a loan!!! But I understand how it might feel to be literally beholden to a record company and have to put out a certain type of music, it does kind of feel like a master-slave relationship!!! But all respect to De La Soul, they are legends who deserve to do them and put out good music!!!
@howardcho8426
@howardcho8426 9 жыл бұрын
Tim Davis Agreed, but "debt bondage" is not counting the other issues that have occurred from signing with labels. Consider signing a 4-album deal, signing away your publishing and master rights, and even your individual artist names. If the label chooses not to release your album because they don't think the cost/benefit is there, your work sits on a shelf, while you're contractually locked in to that label. Now, you still have to eat, and have bills to pay; what do you do? That album may never see the light of day, and you can't go anywhere else to release music. Think about what happened with the original Sugar Hill Gang; they had to take the Robinson's to court for the right to perform using their artist names! They also don't get paid any real royalties on all the songs they've produced throughout the years.
@jman1562001
@jman1562001 9 жыл бұрын
Bro I know this.....I'm not talking about one's livelihood but that is a sacrifice you make when you take the loan label gives you....technically that loan is suppose to cover those expenses but it may not given the costs that come with touring, producers, "ghostwriters", etc. It's sad to see but that is the business, no hard feelings. Shit, why didn't Grandmaster Caz take the Sugar Hill Gang to court for taking the dudes rhymes? You must pay back that loan given to you and if you don't, well you get shelved for one's likeness, royalties, publishing, and master's because the record label owns it all. Black artists in the 90s were taken advantage of because of the fame and instant gratification. Shit I remember when New Edition went out on tour and made nothing nor recieved any compensation for their labor, its a harsh lesson that many in black music have had to learn!!! Not to be harsh but it's abusive to see this game being played on many black musicians.
@howardcho8426
@howardcho8426 9 жыл бұрын
Tim Davis Artists were shelved even after they fully recouped their original debts; the labels just didn't feel the risk of pushing a new album was worth the reward. I understand it's a business, but there's a difference between legal rights, and what's ethically right. Caz would've had to take Hank to court for stealing his rhymes, but Hank hardly made any money. Additionally, you're talking about kids from the hood who might not have the first clue on how to sue for their credits. Plus, where would they get the money to hire a lawyer? In addition, by the time they raised enough money, I'm sure the statute of limitations would've passed. I think the main issue is that many labels have taken advantage of the ignorance of many struggling artists. They used their lack of comprehension of legalese against them, and played into their hopes and dreams. It's easy to blame them for not knowing how the business works, but it's hardly a fair argument. I'm not looking into getting into an internet debate about this, but was just trying to explain that it's significantly more than "debt bondage".
@jman1562001
@jman1562001 9 жыл бұрын
No shots I think we both are saying the same thing, but morals and ethics go out the window in the arena of business. They are still taking advantage of black artists today which is sickening, hip-hop especially...that is all i'm trying to convey.
@howardcho8426
@howardcho8426 9 жыл бұрын
Tim Davis I totally agree, with the exception that I feel it crosses most racial lines. Greed has a tendency to spoil most great things, and music isn't immune.
@robertagyemang3260
@robertagyemang3260 8 жыл бұрын
He is right...there are humans working and using their brain power to make music...the authentication and genuine support is needed through buying the product with actual money and not bootlegging or illegal downloading...salute
@elisyelcajigas5641
@elisyelcajigas5641 8 жыл бұрын
This is why these 3 brothers here will always be known as "legends/teachers of hip hop". De La Soul speaks the truth more than any other rap group out there. And what they said about signing to record labels being slavery, that's exactly what it is now like: slavery. But if you want more of a comparison, being signed to a label today is like being in a human trafficking ring. Niggas have gotta sell themselves like fucking bitches to get into the biggest labels to make billions. And like the record execs, they pimp these niggas to the highest bidders. You got niggas that say that they would desecrate themselves by going down low and get male ass on the side to be the new wave "hood rich" rappers. Shit's a dirty game yo, and these dudes like the effeminized shit they're on.
@seanraaron
@seanraaron 9 жыл бұрын
I see nothing wrong with an artist, a person who has talent, making a living from that talent - whether it's making paintings for a wealthy patron like in the Renaissance or getting funding from fans via Kickstarter. There should be no shame in this: I'm getting a t-shirt and a CD from one of my favourite musical acts and I know that unlike buying the CD from Amazon, they're getting most of the money. There's a great article by musician/producer Steve Albini about what it actually costs an artist to do a deal with a major label - you think they get that million or whatever and the company provides the studio time and promotion for free? No, the artist has to pay for EVERYTHING out of that contract money and then on top of that the label and the promoters and everyone else who can get a hand in takes a cut. Unless you're Madonna you might as well have a 9-5 by the time you're done and you'll be working a lot harder than that with all that's involved with touring. I would much rather the musicians I like get funded directly from the fans so they can focus on music and touring without worrying about how much they're getting out of that record deal. If I had an artistic talent and could make a living off it, I'd totally do that, so I don't care if the excess goes into their pockets or funds future albums, I only ask that they make the music because they WANT to and not just put something out because they feel like they HAVE to.
@ravnishgandhi3666
@ravnishgandhi3666 4 жыл бұрын
De la soul’s music is just happiness , so many fun memories . Stay strong de la
@GABA-Gool
@GABA-Gool 7 жыл бұрын
I chipped in 10 on my part. While I didn't really love the album (I liked it enough) it was obvious that they did put a good amount of effort and energy into their project. And I'm glad they're still around.
@OnlyThe1Son
@OnlyThe1Son 3 жыл бұрын
5 years later.. Yea. They got the money. Made And the Anonymous Nobody And got nominated for best rap album of the year in 2017 grammys Well done guys..
@Nda54Gem
@Nda54Gem Жыл бұрын
🌹🌹🌹
@Mugicha808
@Mugicha808 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, Inspector Vladget is on fire with these last few interviews. De La Soul are living legends.
@josefx1389
@josefx1389 8 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I listened, listen, and will listen to them. Thank you De La Soul! 3 Feet High and Rising was the first cassette tape I ever bought and you have made me happy and smarter for decades. XD
@krispy6796
@krispy6796 2 жыл бұрын
My mom got me the 3 feet high and rising cassette for Christmas in 1989 when I was 13. The best birthday present ever
@blackmayb3
@blackmayb3 8 жыл бұрын
Honestly. You couldn't get better audio for the guest??
@zshakur
@zshakur 7 жыл бұрын
My FAVORITE Hip Hop group of ALL Time! Still killin it 20+ yrs in the game!
@nuffsd
@nuffsd 7 жыл бұрын
Real Hip Hop, true fans must support! I have no problem with that, we need more dialogue explaining the positive possibilities of this process. Please support real Hip-Hop.
@OfficialFKZTv
@OfficialFKZTv Жыл бұрын
meanwhile fans will rush to spend their money on $1000 tix to see their fav artist give half azz performance smh RIP Trugoy The Dove
@belect7243
@belect7243 8 жыл бұрын
Still got three dela classic cds in my crates, and waiting for my son to hear,. period. .. 3ft high and rising that's all
@dasun13
@dasun13 9 жыл бұрын
Maseo ( in the middle) son plays for the rams and was heisman trophy runner up last year
@modaroho
@modaroho 4 жыл бұрын
radiohead are one of the first groups that went against the majors back around 2010 on their rainbows lp . they pretty muxh gave the lp away and asked people to give what ever they felt was fair. shot out to De La Soul
@TheCondorjc
@TheCondorjc 5 жыл бұрын
3:43 Vlad, what kind of question is that, my dude? Seemed like you tried to put ‘em in a box.
@eridmusictv3456
@eridmusictv3456 8 жыл бұрын
Love De La Soul - real cool guys and History of Rap
@carsonj85
@carsonj85 9 жыл бұрын
They are right
@dawnbrown624
@dawnbrown624 5 жыл бұрын
Good for you guys. Well spoken.
@skoishmaloish499
@skoishmaloish499 2 жыл бұрын
"Industry rule number four-thousand and eighty; Record company people are shady" - Q-Tip
@captainfresh1976
@captainfresh1976 8 жыл бұрын
De La soul is so dope
@mensahtalk1582
@mensahtalk1582 5 жыл бұрын
Hip Hop Royalty right here
@walliehernandez7069
@walliehernandez7069 8 жыл бұрын
thank u de la for continuing to share your talents and gifts with us.l.e.s luvs the de la.....yeah yeah
@Throwboy
@Throwboy 5 жыл бұрын
So much knowledge in this. Kickstarter is a perfect way to fund projects and remove the bs. People need to drop the stigma of thinking Kickstarter is taboo for successful artists or businesses.
@Logikbombmusik
@Logikbombmusik 9 жыл бұрын
DE LA FOREVER! Keepin it TRUE
@FreeRoyalPowerHour
@FreeRoyalPowerHour 4 жыл бұрын
Individually charging for content has really grown on YT,Mixer,and Twitch. It's interesting how,hindsight being 20/20,they tried to help start a change in the music business. But,it just ain't the same musically. In the music form,folks are just very traditional and I cant knock it. Being an up and coming artist,the perception would even be vastly different for ME doing a kickstarter than THEM. It IS,for an artist,viewed as begging. Folks are used to having music at their disposal in these new times. Even back in the day,instant gratification was key. Pay for the CD or cassette and it's in your hands immediately. Now,folks dont have the mindset of investing in an album they want from an artist.
@macboogieland2897
@macboogieland2897 9 жыл бұрын
very interesting! i bet it wasnt easy for them to make the decision, even they said so 'we talked about this a lot! if it is going to look like begging or not' but it looks like it def worked out for them and lets see if others do it in the future after seeing this success
@SkateSka
@SkateSka 9 жыл бұрын
That's so great that they made it! I was bummed out over Slum Village on pledgemusic last year, couldn't believe so few people put money up, I don't think they even made 10%. Glad they still put out their album though. This really is the future, better for fans and artists, not so great for marketing people looking to cash in, but that's their problem...
@patricksargent5718
@patricksargent5718 8 жыл бұрын
this is the TRUTH!... i first got into hip hop in 1999... i was 15... i first started drawing in 1999... i feel what they are sayin.. everyone wants stuff for free... back in the day you had to pay for... these young people don't kno what that was back in the day... thats why i will never really expose my artwork too much online... i just bought de la souls stakes is high album used on amazon this may... i bought Grind and date ,and their double disc album back in 2000... if u want a movement to keep goin support and don't slow it down.. god bless u ya'll,, BY THE WORLD FAMOUS PSWIF ONE SINCE 1999... JESUS SAVES NATIONS! PEACE TO DE LA SOUL 1
@gregostrom9152
@gregostrom9152 7 жыл бұрын
de la soul pioneering as always
@carltaylor8370
@carltaylor8370 4 жыл бұрын
As a fan I would've paid any amount they would ask for just to hear their music. It would be worth it every nickel.
@alkeyman94
@alkeyman94 7 жыл бұрын
hell yeah and this is a great album also these brothers are legends
@tobiastinter955
@tobiastinter955 8 жыл бұрын
still my fav group of all time
@youngkam1
@youngkam1 9 жыл бұрын
Wow. .breaking shit down deeo man..really needed to hear that froma legends ppoint of view
@williamvillagomez69
@williamvillagomez69 7 жыл бұрын
Fan project albums are the way to go these days. No industry bullshit..just the fan support that wants that hiphop shit going.
@cocococo9087654321
@cocococo9087654321 5 жыл бұрын
Original comes to mind when I see these guys ,it's crazy in a way bc look at how many people could of put them on who vibed off ther music but in the long run keeping it real is what keeps them going ,I'm totally behind De la soul , keep making hip hop until y'all are 80 yrs old .
@SatanDynastyKiller
@SatanDynastyKiller 9 жыл бұрын
Legends, and yes I put my money where my mouth is...
@DendyJungle
@DendyJungle 9 жыл бұрын
PATHH88 same here. david byrne damon albarn and 2 chainz. should be good
@Tenasedeinc
@Tenasedeinc 9 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant!
@youngkam1
@youngkam1 9 жыл бұрын
Still..just when i thought I've heard all resources. .i hearabout kickstarter . I used to hear it get tossed around a lotbut never really came into question.still..being independent seems the best way now and days
@PeterKincaid
@PeterKincaid 9 жыл бұрын
De La breaking down the FACTS...
@DJDDT
@DJDDT 9 жыл бұрын
DeLaSouls Dugout I thank you.
@r.a.d.h.e.r.7758
@r.a.d.h.e.r.7758 9 жыл бұрын
they really have complete control of how they want to represent themselves how what when who where. these dudes have history up to date they been on the scence about a little more than half of the age of the existence of the culture after the culture was named Hip Hop. i have been an active fan of Hip Hop since their album 3 feet High and Rising and i was about 10 years old in 89 lol. you gotta think if your a 90's generation Hip Hop Head you had to have some idea of the preceding decades if you love this culture so much. im an advocate of consistency and dedication and developement but not drastic change with no appreciation for its foundation where theres a industrial shift that subjects the young current generation with thinking with a blank slate following after the digital shift. that only means that who ever was in charge of the digital shift weren't careful with the musical cultures that depended on physical formats and the backlash on this shift from those who were diehard physical analog enthusiasts.
@matthawes4395
@matthawes4395 8 жыл бұрын
De La can't be beat.EVER
@screamrad218
@screamrad218 6 жыл бұрын
Tupac got butthurt because De La Soul didnt want to sellout to Gangsta Rap.
@BillieSlum
@BillieSlum 9 жыл бұрын
Dope! Respect to De La! Yo ***** link up! 💯
@dr.manhattan6669
@dr.manhattan6669 9 жыл бұрын
WOW! Another good vid by VLAD,times is changing.
@SodaPopinksi
@SodaPopinksi 7 жыл бұрын
You know dem stakes is high
@noboditheartist
@noboditheartist 9 жыл бұрын
When will these businessmen stop lying and claiming that they "do it for the fans". Nahh nigga, you do it for yourselves.
@19biglou
@19biglou 6 жыл бұрын
FooliboyLu ... In the case of de la, they pretty much do it 50% for the fans and 50% for themselves... That's just about the best ratio you'll get out of anybody in the industry...
@katomane6116
@katomane6116 9 жыл бұрын
dope informational interview.
@GetUpTheMountains
@GetUpTheMountains 9 жыл бұрын
I'd give 'em $300 to make it happen. Been listening to these cats since 1989.
@elliot2177
@elliot2177 9 жыл бұрын
They are right..it's like pre-purchasing.It's not that ppl are cheap, it's more of ppl are broke, for the most part.Plus , there are options to get it for free.Nowadays, you have to supply the ppl with more than music to sell music.You need a package.That is where de l a soul lacks at.They are legends in the game ,no doubt but this era is different.Its not just about the music,skills talent anymore.Thats why groups like de la soul would not get the backing from the major labels thus they went to kick starter.They sound a little bitter and probably are a little fucked up in the game
@ILLAILLS
@ILLAILLS 9 жыл бұрын
i want more emcee's of their caliber to go this route. let the fans do the talking not these labels. and this shows De La is still relevant regardless what people think. Lets get tribe to do it now lol
@muggledon1
@muggledon1 9 жыл бұрын
Gotta respect that. Thats how music should be cut out the middle man. It's always a middleman tho....
@casmo87
@casmo87 7 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Maces reaction to Vlad talking constantly about $$$. I get like that around similar people. I can't stand that attitude of letting yourself up to be a slave to the power and pull of $$$ so freely
@rightknowledgeman
@rightknowledgeman 4 жыл бұрын
así es, muchachos, madre, a la mierda con los principales sellos discográficos y con quien los quiera
@LAX2SanGabriel
@LAX2SanGabriel 9 жыл бұрын
I think this is the way to go, fans give them money upfront if they feel its worthwhile, because people tend not to pay after its made and its online. Then I guess they make the profits from doing shows and other things, they can make pure art like that.
@gregorytaylor8635
@gregorytaylor8635 Жыл бұрын
If they can make 100,000 in 9 hours , what did the label make off them
@Kadditheproducer
@Kadditheproducer Жыл бұрын
Nothing.That was the whole problem.
@gregorytaylor8635
@gregorytaylor8635 Жыл бұрын
@@Kadditheproducer The label did made more , that’s the point , as independent artist with a fan base strong enough to make that kind of money just to fund the project they had to make millions off “Me , Myself , and I “
@Kadditheproducer
@Kadditheproducer Жыл бұрын
On God,damn bro I ain't even think bout that.Fuk!You a fukin genius bro.Thats even more incentive to snake him out.They ain't wanna pay him his standard rate,which would be millions after all the streams.🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@modifiedcontent
@modifiedcontent 8 жыл бұрын
'A big part of it is cheap people and people who think everything is supposed to be for free' - There is a middle-way between Kickstarter and "the traditional way" and that is self-releasing; artists having their own label with separate distribution/marketing deals that the artist controls. I think that is how artists like Kate Bush and Jim Thirlwell do it. But De La Soul are on the right track and what's out from the new album sounds/looks brilliant. I'll buy the vinyl.
@jaska138
@jaska138 5 ай бұрын
Dave was so right minded person! So sad. RIP King
@LordDigz12
@LordDigz12 8 жыл бұрын
They took out the middle man. GJ DeLaSoul, we need more of this in our society, and less bloodsuckers who profit off the creative juices of others.
@malikomar9758
@malikomar9758 6 жыл бұрын
This is a wise way of during business...
@0Lu.Lu0
@0Lu.Lu0 8 жыл бұрын
5:33 I don't think they have any obligation to keep saying that they are not doing this to try and get money. The hottest songs are all about that now! The consumer has been supporting and charting the one's who talk about "gettin money" 90% of the time! Is this some kind of hypocritical standard because De La's stuff is considered "Conscious Rap"? I understand that they are saying that the Kickstarter wasn't a scheme where they would just pocket and abscond, but for me it spins off a concern that people see them as less than genuine or that it puts them in a negative light if they expect to profit for their work.
@micsmith672
@micsmith672 4 жыл бұрын
De la is legendary
@jameswalker2534
@jameswalker2534 4 жыл бұрын
Do here this u can ween you're self off the endorsement check without being bind to a major label contract you can get a bag independent but that big loan looks good 💯💯💯💯
@VinTagebeats
@VinTagebeats 9 жыл бұрын
Dope !
@pearlac1588
@pearlac1588 9 жыл бұрын
The fans take the power from the label. We do want a return< but what we get is our fav artists able to give us the best music with the most creative freedom and no deadlines so there's o one really to answer to, except the fans. I don't see why this concept is so hard to grasp. We who love de la should be happy to pay a little money KNOWING that we're going to get classic stuff.
@shawnsteed4140
@shawnsteed4140 9 жыл бұрын
They definitely have a point😎
@LaCheleWallace
@LaCheleWallace 9 жыл бұрын
I always thought that if yo' name wasn't Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey or Madonna.....GOOD LUCK! All artists need to do Kickstarter. I think it's a brilliant idea. Why don't ya'll stop playin' and say what's really on ya'll minds. *"Putting out music is expensive and if nobody buys it then I'll be out of that money."* There, I said it for ya'll. Oooh, and *I want ya'll to pay for the album and then turn around and buy it.* Now, the *backlash* is gon come if the music is wack and nobody likes it. Just because ya'll have been out for years that doesn't guarantee anything. Times and tastes have changed. TLC went above and beyond their quota and they still ain't put out a record to first. I buy music if it's good. No more or less. I wanna start a Kickstarter account, shoot..... You still look good, David. I enjoyed this interview and I want ya'll to win. I am a fan (not donating a one red cent though) ;)
@GustavoLaboy
@GustavoLaboy 9 жыл бұрын
LaCheleWallace I agree with you 100%!
@LaCheleWallace
@LaCheleWallace 9 жыл бұрын
Gustavo Laboy Thank you. ;)
@ButterscotchCloud
@ButterscotchCloud 9 жыл бұрын
I understand your stance of not wanting to pay for an album that you haven't heard, but I think you're missing the fact that if you contribute at least $15 to the Kickstarter, you're automatically getting the album. It's not like you donate and then have to turn around and come out of your pocket again to buy the music itself. So essentially, it's not much different than purchasing it from iTunes, Amazon, or wherever. I feel what you're saying, though. Personally, I was happy to donate because De La's never dropped a wack album; I have faith in their music.
@LaCheleWallace
@LaCheleWallace 9 жыл бұрын
***** OH, OK! See, I didn't know that. I thought you had to donate and then turn around and buy it, lol. Well in 2015, you never know, bae. How many of our favorite artists have let us down recently? Mary J, D'Angelo, Faith and the list goes on.
@ButterscotchCloud
@ButterscotchCloud 9 жыл бұрын
Now that's true. You never know what you're gonna get, even from your favorite artists. Maybe this is my naïveté talking, but I'm hoping for the best. Plus, I'm a music collector and even if I don't particularly care for an album, it's still a good feeling to know that I purchased music from an artist that I love. I'm always down to support those who've consistently put out good/great work, ya know?
@MrJohnQuality
@MrJohnQuality 5 жыл бұрын
I love De La!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️
@NeechOne
@NeechOne 9 жыл бұрын
Pos + Dove = Emcee Wizardry!
@checkmateforever
@checkmateforever 9 жыл бұрын
Not legendary but they do have a historic place in hip hop in their own right
@ButterscotchCloud
@ButterscotchCloud 9 жыл бұрын
...how are they not legendary? De La hasn't sold a shitload of albums like OutKast or other popular hip hop groups, but their impact is huge. We wouldn't have "alternative hip hop" as we know it today if it weren't for them. De La pushed the envelope in both their sound and image, enforcing the idea that rappers don'g have to be hardcore and boisterous to be successful. Plus, they have (arguably) 4 classic LPs under their belt, never dropped a wack album, and is still touring extensively. That's not legendary?
@therealliveguy
@therealliveguy 9 жыл бұрын
LOL....just stop listening to hip hop and stick to Alanis Morissette ...not legendary? GTFOH!
@xGriz58x
@xGriz58x 9 жыл бұрын
Maseo don't need the $ his son in the NFL. But still a good idea. I hope they make a classic
@MiroMayne
@MiroMayne 9 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I wouldn't pay for most music. But there are couple of (upcoming) artists who I would pay for on Kickstarter if they wanted to produce an album. It just depends on how badly you want it.
@howardcho8426
@howardcho8426 9 жыл бұрын
Miro Mayne This type of thinking always confuses me. Why wouldn't you pay for music? Music takes time, effort, and energy to make, and really enhances most aspects of life. I understand that music has been de-valued from differing factors, but that shouldn't make it valueless. I would be really angry if I wasn't getting paid for my work; luckily, I've worked for companies who are required (by law) to pay me for my time. Music helped me through some of the darkest periods of my life, so I support those musicians who make the music that continues to influence me. I've even purchased 5-10 copies of albums from artists I truly respect.
@MiroMayne
@MiroMayne 9 жыл бұрын
Chosun BK You are right. However, most music you buy is thru iTunes, I'm not doing that honestly (making an iTunes account, buying credit for it etc.). But like I said, if my favorite artist needed funding, I wouldn't hesitate in supplying it. I guess I just don't value most artists their work enough to put money in. I still listen to it, bootlegged or whatever. Perhaps that makes me an ungrateful person, but I can live with that.
@howardcho8426
@howardcho8426 9 жыл бұрын
Miro Mayne I'm not trying to call you ungrateful; I don't have any right to make an accusation like that. I also agree with your distaste for iTunes; I actually don't buy any of my music from Apple. I was using Amazon for a while, but they've made it more of a pain to download the songs I've purchased, so now I think I'm going to switch to Google Music. You might want to consider it, if there ever is a band you want to support, financially. Also, I don't know your age, but I understand how difficult it can be to pay for something when you can get it for free, already (especially when you're young). I don't have an answer for that, except to say that I would rather spend my money on the art I love, as opposed to something else that will be mostly useless (to me) in the future. I make enough to warrant spending a little money on music here and there, and so I do.
@MiroMayne
@MiroMayne 9 жыл бұрын
Chosun BK I am 20, undergrad and not that fond of spending money on such items as music (as you might imagine) haha. But this video did give me some perspective. I did take away something from this. We shall see what the future holds.
@howardcho8426
@howardcho8426 9 жыл бұрын
Miro Mayne Respect.
@cav65
@cav65 4 жыл бұрын
Dela soul is from the soul
@t3rr3nc388
@t3rr3nc388 9 жыл бұрын
Plugs one and two are hippies.
@AlwayzDope
@AlwayzDope 9 жыл бұрын
respect to De La Soul. what other artist/group you know gives out their whole catalog for free?
@raymondcoles6083
@raymondcoles6083 7 жыл бұрын
isn't that slavery if you're "NOT" putting money in your pocket without signing to a paying label?? I'm confused kickstarter wants you to make music for free with no money just the music?? that's slavery if you raise money off your trade but not get any funds for it, isn't that slavery?? I need money bcz what the company wants to broadcast to the public I deserve to get paid no??
@dasun13
@dasun13 9 жыл бұрын
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