Collins was a traitor.

​@JamesRichards-mj9kw just wasn't Free State or remain in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland? Which one would you have wanted?

@@FionanUaMurchadha Ireland had already been partitioned in 1920.

@@JamesRichards-mj9kw wrong the BILL went through in December 1920 but wasn't enacted until May 3rd 1921.

@@FionanUaMurchadha It was going to happen regardless. The Anglo-Irish War continued until 1922.

The greatest coward you mean

@@peterfranks6243 Obviously not, no.

Yeah

A corrupt coward

He was a bastard and he forced people to leave the country because of the gang of pedophiles of which he was the leader.

You make a statement with no proof were all supposed to believe you ' you weren't around then so you don't know Anything about Eamon De Valera n Michel Collins just the usual hearsay or gossip I know there both buried In Glasnevin Cemetery very near each other near the main gate of Cemetery ' God bless them ☘

@@patdoyle3686 What we do know is they betrayed and abandoned the irish nationalist people of the six counties. And left them to discrimination and marginalisation for over half a century thats a fact

Exactly.

Collins betrayed Ireland.

have you evidence of this oath

This was in 1973

Thats your opinion " it differs from the irish people who freely elected Eamon on lots of occasions for high office In the irish Republic of Ireland ☘ which allowed all faiths to practice freely ' in ireland ' the irish people loved de valera As all the older people I knew in Dublin in 1950s told me in working class areas I remember seeing De valera In our area canvassing too ' its easy for you to make a comment with no facts to prove your point just hearsay If you weren't there you don't know Eamon De Valera was a good irish man ☘ your names can't hurt him now '

@@patdoyle3686 sad reflection on the Irish people that they elected this corrupt fraud and conman. Don't say much for them

​@@patdoyle3686 he didn't say De Valera wasn't popular. He said he gave the Catholic Church too much of a role in the state and this deterred NI protestants from joining the south. Hardly a controversial point...

He was only 8 years older than Collins - Look I hated the horrible old man I remember from my youth , but Had Collins Lived I suspect he would have been as bad. They were both Terrorist bigots in truth , just early violent death means not having to live to show it was always all about you !

@@5888max they were not terrorists, have some respect for the people who died for your freedom. From studying Michael Collins I’m sure he would of been a different type of leader. Both men were different in personalities and direction. Whatever dev has done he did it for the good of Ireland but that good was lost along the way.

@@KC-cf5mg I don't agree that they were freedom fighters and , I suppose you might be right that collins would have been a different sort of leader , but you can't know if he would have been any better . What would nave been for the better good of Ireland would have been to pursue political objectives through the democratic process That would have avoided a a civil war ,partition , 70 odd years of economic backwardness and second terrorist campaign whatever these thugs thought they were doing that was the result , lets hope the lesson has finally been learnt

@@5888max I agree but you can’t “suspect” he’d be a bad leader. Have you not read your Irish history? We tried to represent the cause in the House of Parliament but anytime an Irish representative spoke he was jeered and silenced, so what were the like of Collins and dev to do? Just let the feet of unionists and foreign rule walk all over us? Collins aim was to get the gun out of Irish politics. You need to read your history before commenting. These brave men were hero’s and died for what they believed was right and along with a high majority of the nation post 1916 executions. Freedom fighters, have some respect

@@5888max maybe read up on the home rule situation (1870-1914) that might give you a clear look at how much of a voice we had and how serious we were taken