GR; vibe check Deadpool; oh my vibe is immaculate rn GR; but what about the times it wasn’t

@@xaiverbres7335 😂🤣 love tgat

Dp: "I already knew that"

DP: already do that every day in the mirror, ghosty boi

⁠@@carrionwithout_megr:look into mirrors more.

Well there's a reason why "the ability that shows you the suffering you inflicted" just showed Deadpool himself

*DING* *DING* *DING*

@@codebracker The Spirit of Vengeance reminding Deadpool “you need to practice more self-care, man.”

More like he’s innocent.

@@NoxTheZombie that's 100% not it lmao. Also wouldnt have that effect on GR.

Man, it pisses me off that you think that. Not attacking you personally, I just hate that Ghost Rider 2 is the only thing people know Zarathos lore, and think it applies to the comics. It's like how, before Deadpool 1, a lot of people thought Origins Deadpool was comic accurate.

@@alexandercarter9598 Zarathos was an angel in the comics too it’s from the 2005 run. He was specifically revealed to be basically an angel special agent that got corrupted by Lucifer (who might have been either Mephisto or Marduk Kurios but he was referred as lucifer during the run). To be fair they never did anything with it after that run

@@alexandercarter9598 I know Ghost Rider primarily through comics. Yes, my first experience with the character was through the movies but even the comics use the former Angel origin.

Lmao if Zarathos had been the one using the stare it would have reached back through Wade's history and retroactively punished anybody that wronged him.

@@teodellorcio4590 ... Alright. Sorry, another retroactive change that I wasn't aware of. Ghost Rider is one of those characters that shows up so infrequently that I can be far behind on a major story element like that. And it doesn't help that there are a. Bunch of Ghost Riders.

I never realized that but it makes sense, kinda fucking dark how Deadpool is reminded of HIS suffering rather than the suffering he inflicted to others. No wonder Wade and Peter are so fucking good together, they're basically marvel's punching bag.

Welcome to the overall premise to Deadpool. How someone didn’t figure this out YEARS ago, is beyond me. Lol!

@@BrottenGuy neckbeard moment 😂😂👌

He's basically dying 24/7, occasionally gets killed and his cancerous mutated cells bring him back to life(somewhat) to die... again.

He is a walking piece of tumor of a half-mutant/human byproduct from a science experiment gone wrong and became immortal because of Thanos with Wolverine healing factor.

Meanwhile spiderman writers treat him like their personal emotional punching bag

@@billcipher3479 No one asked about Spider-Man. Stop trying to make every post about his crappy runs.

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@@arctiwolf857no no… let him cook let him cook ✋🏾

@@arctiwolf857 the majority of his runs are now 💩 sadly

You misunderstand. This isn't Wade being Deadpool. This is Deadpool being reminded he's still Wade. Without Wade there still is a Deadpool. It's just really dark and even Ghost Rider knows there's a time to reign it in.

@@artyd42 very good

Commenting because I know someone will like it and I want to come back to the reel

Than who is Deadpool?

@@josephkelley3035 Miles Morales

I also feel this reflects well on Ghost Rider. We've seen the Stare crispy critter beings FAR stronger than Wade. The fact that he survived and came out as sane as he can be expected to be says that, to me anyway, Ghost Rider knew that Wilson has it in him to be a net positive for the world. Which gives respect and depth to both characters that are often disregarded.

​@@zehkiel8018🤯

Dude this is the start of one of the best writers run for Deadpool Daniel Way

@@zehkiel8018 Wade cant be rendered any less sane than he already is, remember the dude has already 3 personnalities at the same time, is in love with Death and even went to the point of banging his female version during the Deadpool corps comics series. The Penance Stare usually makes people go insane because they are filled with the guilt of their deeds. Deadpool sees himself, he is his own victim, so that's not guilt but enlightenment and introspection that the Penance Stare gave him.

And biggest. It also implies that Wade may not be as mentally ill as people think. Generally, the Penance Stare doesn't work on the insane.

Shut up I don’t wanna feel bad for funny Ryan Reynolds man

​@@OneAsphodel Oh man you would be in for a wild ride if you got down into the comics. Funny Ryan Reynolds man becomes sadder than green suit Ryan Reynolds man.

​​@@billbill6094 we don't talk about green suit ryan Reynolds man, not since funny ryan reynolds man killed actor ryan Reynolds man before he could read the script for green suit ryan Reynolds man

He was, because he CHOSE to submit to the experiment(s).

When your soul is deemed untouchable in the afterlife, it's the best they can do.

Wade does a lot of bad shit on a daily basis. Ghost Rider would constantly be on his tail if he didn't have that limit.

Him and that Old broad he shacks up with seem to be regular cucaine cowboys.

​@@ZatchZXman I kinda like it, they can STILL punish you, I actually think its ridiculpus the punisher is immune to the penace stare, it shouldnt be guilt basedz but SIN based all the pain you've ever inflicted forced down onto you, and if you are worthy of forgiveness. You survive

@@thenexus7343 I disagree, the most badass part of The Punisher is that he operates on a strict code of honor and only punishes those deserving.

@@Niki_Schreiber Pst, wrong comment. Ya want the one by josephrichards4618 right above this one.

@@NoirRaven oops, sorry my bad😅

I remeber hearing a response to someone asking a doctor why they smoke if they know it’s killing them that I think fits here too “just because I gave up on life, doesn’t mean you should too” I know I messed the quote up, but it was somewhere along those lines

Huh, I thought his identity was an open secret at this point. Not sure if Robbie Reyes' secret identity is though, don't know enough about him past his introduction and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D appearance.

@@chocov1233Ghost Rider is like Spider-Man. The best one was the original, not the stolen culturally operated bullshit version. Morales and Reyes suck ass.

Yay ! Another Murder Drones fan 🎉

Deadpool always goes fucking hard on everything. That's what happens when you cant die, have a pain tolerance that's off the charts and most of all, he's basically insane. Fear aint exactly in his vocabulary, I'm pretty sure he'd even flip off Satan mid-sentence just to piss him off.

That's a very good explanation of deadpool's cancer, I like it.

Most people don’t realize that. Nice.

so hes a fast learner too?

@@superchinmayplays more like a fast relearner

Yep. Even if the brain can heal quickly, the damage to the mind within is already done. They need to make more stories with that logic. The brain is the part of the body that contains the mind, but it is not the mind itself.

If you don’t feel remorse for what you’ve done and you only hurt bad people then there is literally no reason for him to experience anything.

Same thing happened to Thanos, no remorse and so no consequences.​@@ziadeternal4415

It also implies Deadpool is more morally sound than Punisher, funnily enough, because he does feels remorse

@@ziadeternal4415 That's not how it works. The Penance Stare doesn't care about feeling guilt. It makes you feel all the pain you've caused. That was in one Punisher comic where the writer clearly didn't understand how Ghost Rider worked. They also had to retcon it by saying Frank Castle had divine protection, so even then, it doesn't hold water.

@@lukeroberson2942 ok then, there you go. He had divine protection. Quit complaining when the writers do what writers do. Yall are such nerds for caring this much.

Because at the end of the proverbial day HE CHOSE the experiment(s) that have made him the man he’s become.

It really is. He's got a surprisingly large collection of them at this point, given his nature and origin as a character. I used to hate DP for being the living incarnation of the 2000s internet, but I've since learned it's just his fans that are the problem.

Best part of his character IMO. His persona in X Force that walks the line is pretty great too

Being not serious is his way to cope with reality...

@@nelsonsham2368 Yeah, but sometimes you have to stop coping and start actually interacting.

@@zehkiel8018 Tell that to someone permanently dying of cancer without actually kicking the bucket, who struggles with Multiple Personnality Disorder, is in love with the personification of Death itself, and is in this state because he's been treated as a guinea pig against his will.

I should have been how it works for Thanos they see it happens but they're not fazed by it not just it straight up doesn't happen

@boxatron8010 My understanding with Thanos is that he is such a sadist that he enjoys experiencing the pain he does on others, which makes more sense than punisher being immune for a reason that would make most villians immune to it.

I've heard that the real reason it didn't work was because the punisher had a magic Maguffin that made him immune

It has nothing to do with guilt, it doesn't work on Punisher because Frank is not a sinner, every life he took was to save innocents

​@@Swifeaf he does go for the wrong people sometimes

Giving a demon the deals with shitty people's sins for a job a freak-out "I need a moment" has got to be wild. Either that or the Penace Stare shorted out because it was forced to do something it wasn't really designed for. I mean, Deadpool was reminded of his OWN pain. He's his own victim.

@matts1166 he reverted back to Johnny because halfway through the stare, Zarathos realized Wade is always punishing himself, and his presence wasn't needed.

@@silverfox21088 why is death so in love with Deadpool???? Like what's the story.??? I am not a comic guy... But I do like deadpool

@@MyWorldOutWildI think it tied into Deadpool being in the gray zone between life and death because of his flawed healing factor. He isn’t getting killed and healing back from it, he’s constantly in a state of dying and his healing factor just restored him to his most optimal condition

@@gbaboy313 thanks

@@MyWorldOutWild because of his healing factor, he gets brought to death but not permanently so she just spends so much time with im she falls in love

@@gbaboy313 literally edging death 💀

Thank god bro thank you

Exactly why I can’t take this shit seriously. Never can, with Deadpool.

What was the comic number? Like in the series? I don't think it came out in 2008?

@@nasl_littlecorona3607 The run started in '08, through '12. Issue 26 has the story, unless you mean something else by "comic number"?

Because he regrets nothing

@@will-oi8sm Yeah

He's actually not. He, unknowningly, had a angels protection at that time. If your wondering I believe it was during the time when they were playing with Frank's origin to make him more mystical. Later on when frank doesn't have that protection he gets affected by the stare just like every one else.

@@michealfoster4411 Interesting, I have not read that but what I was referring to was Red Hulk's Thunderbolts. Long story short, they disbanded (Rulk, Punisher, Deadpool, Elektra, Ghostrider and Agent Venom) and there was a confrontation between Frank and Ghostrider and he used the Penance Stare and it did not affect Frank at all, and his own words after GR questioned why it does not affect him he said "I regret nothing". -Thunderbolts 2013 Issue 29

It didn't work on Thanos for awhile. Until the writers change it.

The One Above All should grant him respite one day. Heck, he visited Peter Parker, and Deadpool is just about as iconic and fleshed out as a character as Spiderman by now.

Well, there are multiple Hells, from what I understand one for each planet. And then there are a LOT of Pantheons, each with their own "Heaven" and "Underworld", plus the christian Heaven with angels and stuff (although it's not clear if this one is ruled by TOAA or not). Surely SOME afterlife could accept him, if the writers deigned it.

@@renatoandrade3407 Accept, maybe. Contain, though?

@@trinityoctman they even have a child together i think

Not how that works. Zarathos had a job. He did said job and wasn't needed after. No one escapes ghost rider. Marvel Knights' run showed it best, but in the end, it's the writer that wins.

The two main instances I know of are the Hulk and the Punisher. With the Hulk it was essentially retconned that the Hulk never directly killed an innocent civilian. With Puniser, even though I would not call myself a Punisher fan, I like the idea that Frank does not feel guilt for his crimes.

​@@henrypeters5291 I find that irritating on a basic level. Hulk, maybe. But the Punisher surviving something that killed Starbrand is just stupid. I know why, and it makes sense. But I don't have to like it.

if you referring to punisher. he had a magic McGuffin that made him immune

@@Seoul_Soldier I am not that familiar with Starbrand other than that he was on the avengers. But the penance stare only works on people who have sins so what was the worst thing the character did?

@@henrypeters5291so I remember once going down a log rabbit hole of specific odd instances of the penance stare, and from what I found of the two times punisher was penance stared, the first he threw up and was winded and punisher says it’s because he feels no regret, but it’s more or less assumed ghost rider just looked at him a little to show the power and not actually trying to obliterate him. The second time he survived because he was touched by the feather of an angel (by deadpool who just… found one?) that would spare him from death once, so it saved him from the penance stare. For the most part the rules of the penance stare work. Or it’s explained how they survived it in some hand wavy fashion.

The Cage is the ONLY Ghost Rider, and anyone else is just going to be the Wish-brand.

@@joshuapratt3593 i agree but i saw alot of ppl meat riding the new 1

Yes, but so long ago, if it's what I'm thinking of. Remind me?

wait what, how did thanos do that

@@superchinmayplays Thanos made him unable to die because of death, Deadpool true love.

@@superchinmayplays he used the stones to make wade immortal because Thanos wanted to impress death himself

It’s kinda like Cap picking up Thor’s hammer I feel like Punisher being unaffected by the stare is a node that Castle himself has potential to control the spirit of vengeance since he himself eventually does become the rider

Spider-Man wasn’t raped and beat by his parents, try again buddy 😅