Dean Park Station Video 8 - How to use Hornby Elite DCC Controller

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@turnout999 10 жыл бұрын

Just bought Gaugemaster express system for my layout thanks for all the videos on wiring Geoff.....

@lordcondio1036 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your clear demonstration and information on this controller. I am just starting out (again) after many years of not having the time or space for a layout. Retirement and a vacant loft giving me ideas now. I am totally new to digital, so this was really helpful. Instructions? what instructions? hahaha (They are only for when you are really stuck!). Stay warm in that attic and enjoy your hobby. Best wishes from a wet and windy Scotland.

@StationRoadModelRailway 4 жыл бұрын

I'll concur the Elite is a good controller as I use one on my layout without any issues. As mentioned, the dials are a bit strange on responsiveness but altering the speed steps on the CVs can help. The other weird design feature is you have to click the dial of the loco you want to control before adjusting the speed (in other words you can't actually turn the two dials simultaneously to adjust loco speeds at the same time). Clicking a dial makes that dial active for speed control. I have partly solved this by adding a Hornby Select unit as a slave control. I can now control 2 loco speeds simultaneously, one via the Select dial and one via an active dial on the Elite.

@Calvertfilm 10 жыл бұрын

Very useful review. Thanks.

@DeanPark 11 жыл бұрын

Hi, I thought I had them at the same speed, or acceleration speeds anyway! But thanks for that advice, I will try again. Yeah as soon as I had finished the video I remembered the ACC was for accessories lol, I have my point motors controlled by dc just now. Thanks again for your comments and advice

@DeanPark 11 жыл бұрын

Hi, I have so much insulation to keep the heat in my house that the loft suffers lol... due to the size of the loft it will cost me a fortune to insulate the roof...but I will look into it if the winters here keep getting worse year on year! cheers.

@berry120 11 жыл бұрын

Coming quite late to the party here, but just to clear up for anyone who is wondering, the on / off button toggles the last function that was activated / deactivated on the loco (it's essentially just a shortcut so you don't need to go into the function menu each time if you just have one function!)

@DeanPark 11 жыл бұрын

Hi, the Elite is a user friendly, easy to understand controller. The Elite allows many trains to be controller at once, but you have to switch between them on your controller, which can be a heart racing task when you have 5 trains + on the move and you need to act quickly lol. If you are controlling only 1 loco at a time then it will serve you well, but to save money you could just go for the Select, or have a look at Bachmann Dynamics stuff? Lenz are also good, but can get expensive! Cheers

@TaynuiltModelRailway 11 жыл бұрын

Great video !! Imstillmthink you should invest in a Dynamis !!! Cheers Lewis

@hovermotion 11 жыл бұрын

Nice demo..

@tidfordjunction 4 жыл бұрын

I have and Elite and it is fine...... but, I have Railmaster Pro which takes the thing to a whole new level. I urge you to get it. I got mine for £5 from Hattons and then upgraded direct from Hornby for £30. The upgrade gives you more options including adding your phone as a walkabout and I am about to try the voice control facility!

@bororedznath4201 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video could ask a question can you get a controller what is acessable when making videos without having to be in one place all the time.

@thehov8086 3 жыл бұрын

Hi there, thanks for the content I find it really useful 👍🏻 I am considering buying the hornby elite, would you still recommend it after all this time? Many thanks

@DeanPark 11 жыл бұрын

Too late now mate, I have just paid for the Hornby lol. It'll do me to get started. I will hopefully post more videos when I have some more point motors wired up and show the Hornby elite working some more. Doing that over the next couple of weeks along with some scalescenes platform building....its taking me ages :-), but I aint rushing it as I want it done right.

@Jmphotography23 11 жыл бұрын

i have the elite its a great controller you have to use the same kind of loco for double heading otherwise they run and keep uncoupling :) but it is simple to use 160pound well spent and also the on off button on mine is for my lights :)

@xxxarkxxx 9 жыл бұрын

as it is DCC you have to wait for the signal to the decoder to be accepted that is why there is a delay. This is the case with any DCC controller.

@MartinFutter70 2 ай бұрын

Blimey things have changed a bit, I remember my last Hornby catalogue spouting something with Zero 1?

@garystevens4303 8 жыл бұрын

Dave please explain how you enable sound functions beyond F9. As F10 onwards requires you to use three fingers on the controller. I use a Select. Is that just a limitation of the select or am I miss something? Some decoders give you another 9 or 10 functions after F9. Thanks.

@DeanPark 8 жыл бұрын

Hi, on the elite you just press the function key again and it takes you to the f10-19, then again for f20 onwards. That's how the elite works.

@davewright6847 11 жыл бұрын

Is the Select a nightmare or is it a good controller? I'm constructing a TMD style layout will a Select do me okay or will I need an Elite? It's unlikely I'll be using more than one loco at a time, but what all the DCC features with lighting and movement. Many Thanks, Dave

@StationBBLT 10 ай бұрын

Lovely!!!

@bloodmarine77 11 жыл бұрын

thanks jim i will give that a go then!

@nigelwright7557 Жыл бұрын

ACC is for controlling accessories. I use the dcc controller from platform four model railway controls. At £55 it does most of what a select does but at a fraction of the price.

@TotallyScaleModels 11 жыл бұрын

You might want to put a Capacity Discharge unit between your power supply and the point motors. Hattons do them, you should only need one. The Bachman Dynamis does Seem easier to use and is wireless, but once you get used to the elite it can do so much more.

@TotallyScaleModels 11 жыл бұрын

The speed steps set up from manufactures are often different for each loco. I also have my points on DC control as its a lot easier rather than faffing with the DCC controller.once you upgrade the software on it you can have a Loco with a Hornby 21 pin saphire chip in it you can set it up on a shuttle mode from point to point. check out ay76 he has a vid on it and is very good with the Elite.

@DeanPark 11 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've spent a couple of £k already and have not even really started on my layout! That roco system does sound good, but one problem for me....I dont own a tablet lol, so would need more £££ to get one of those, cant see my wife agreeing lol.

@TotallyScaleModels 11 жыл бұрын

the ACC button is for when you are using accessories such as point motors. If you want to double head you need to have the locos with the same speed steps. Dont know about the clock, i dont use it.

@NewJunction 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Dave, four years on do you still recommend the Elite or do you have an urge to upgrade? Cheers Richard

@DeanPark 6 жыл бұрын

Well, thats an interesting question lol. The answer is yes I do still recommend the Elite. It is easy to use and understand. It works well with the Railmaster software (which I have to admit I dont use all the time - even when I bought a laptop especially for the running of railmaster). The Railamaster software is good, but to operate lots of train simultaneously can be a bit of hassle. If you are running more than 2 trains at a time there is a bit of clicking, selecting, re selections, pressing of buttons etc to keep everything on the move (especially when you're using lots of function on the sound locos etc). Am I tempted to upgrade to the ECOS system at arounf £600?.....yes. But not for a while. The ECOS is the "rolls royce" of systems. And you can use it with your smart phone just like the Railmaster system. Will I upgrade at some point, yes. Am I still currently happy with the Hornby elite, most definitely. What do you use? Cheers Dave

@NewJunction 6 жыл бұрын

DaveClass47 Thanks for the reply pal. I'm simply using a Hornby select but have really out grown it and was looking into the Elite. Regards Richard

@thehov8086 3 жыл бұрын

@@NewJunction Hi gents hope your well, thanks for the content, Keep it up 👍🏻 so after all these years would you recommend the Hornby Elite? I’m building a layout for my son and want something capable of running multiple locos, and something user friendly for him. Many Thanks

@WoodyWoodblossomtrees 10 жыл бұрын

My select from Hornby didn't control all my DCC trains like my class 20 and I had to wait until I got the elite to see it run.

@bloodmarine77 11 жыл бұрын

i do use the dynamis mate.

@DeanPark 11 жыл бұрын

why did you hate it? I looked at the bachmann one, but opted for the Elite. One day I might go for a top of the range unit, but I prefer to spend my cash on locos and scenic items just now to get my layout up and running. Also, track is maga expensive :-(. cheers

@macrangers1 9 жыл бұрын

Hi I am just starting up my sons train experience, His granddad got him hornby great western spirit set. Please could you tell me does the track differ from analogue to digital or is it just the controller? Thank you

@DeanPark 9 жыл бұрын

Amanda Gilchrist Hi, its just the controller that is different, you can still use the same track and points. When it gets to wiring up the points for point motors etc it gets more complex. I assume you are just using the track from the train set pack?, if so all instructions will show you how to deal with points if using DCC should be there (like fitting small Hornby Digital Electric Point Clips - R8232 if required) to the points to make them work better in DCC.I hope this is helpful?, it shouldn't be difficult to get up and running and if there is anything you need to know Hornby are always good with customer help. Or just ask me or others on you tube!Hope your son loves his train set....its a wonderful hobby.CheersDave

@macrangers1 9 жыл бұрын

DaveClass47 thank you for your advice do you know where is the best and of course the cheapest place to get a dcc controller

@SuttonJunction90 11 жыл бұрын

Might switch to this as my Select is giving my problems. Just need to get round to plucking up the courage to buy it, I really don't want to spend £150 plus on a controller!!!

@ellemarta 4 жыл бұрын

Hi can you plz tell me if only need this DCC controller to the track to control all the train or need somethings alse thank you ...

@StationRoadModelRailway 4 жыл бұрын

I have the Elite controller running my layout and it is essentially all you need to get started with DCC operation. It's not like other systems that come with several components, e.g. a hand-held throttle/contoller and then a base power/hub unit. The Elite is all contained within the one unit. I personally wouldn't pay full price for the Elite, I picked mine up secondhand for $300NZD (approx £150).

@robjohnstonloftlayout9207 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, after all these years I have just found out the on off switch controls the lights function 😀😀

@DeanPark 2 жыл бұрын

That’s news to me 😂

@robjohnstonloftlayout9207 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's just the early version

@RailsofBelfast 7 жыл бұрын

On/Off button on the Hornby ELITE turn the light Off R On.I Hav Got Hornby ELITE.

@raymondcarr4669 5 жыл бұрын

hi there Dave I have a n gauge layout do you still have to put the 2 wire clips on the points as you do ho/oo if so we're can I get them as ho are to big thanks

@DeanPark 5 жыл бұрын

hi, what do you mean by two wire clips? A point can be set up the same in 00 as in HO and n. thanks.

@raymondcarr4669 5 жыл бұрын

@@DeanPark hi there with regards to the clips I see from reading about DCC you have to put 2 what I called clips which are like staple on each side of the turnout as everything seems to be done in ho/00 there nothing to say if you have to-do this in N gauge I've looked on hornby accessories but can only see ho ones Ray crr

@bloodmarine77 11 жыл бұрын

yeah the whole hobby is bloody expensive mate.i just did not get on with the hornby elite so changed it for the dynamis. i am now looking at changing that to the new roco system which you control from a tablet.it looks the nuts!!!

@ewannewton979 5 жыл бұрын

Hello everyone any idea if it is possible to use TTS sound system with this controller

@MrJayb988 5 жыл бұрын

ewan newton yes you can use this controller with TTS sound

@DeanPark 11 жыл бұрын

Hi, cheers for that info. What lights do you mean with the on/off button? Lights on the layout, such as street lights etc or the loco lights? I think it is time for me to have a closer read of the manual lol.

@paulfisher8753 5 жыл бұрын

NCE is the way to go, fantastic handset and really easy to pick up quickly. And cheaper... The Elite doesn't look that Elite, just my opinion. I was new to DCC would never change, you can add boosters and more cabs as well ..

@SuttonJunction90 11 жыл бұрын

Tell me about it, I dread to think how much all my stock has cost over the last couple of years. Ive a wardrobe full litrally!!! I don't mind spending my money on the hobby just the controller is something I really don't want to spend a lot on but its an essential sadly :(

@mickchester7724 2 жыл бұрын

The on/off button turns on/off last function selected.

@dermotgannon4895 3 жыл бұрын

Any condensation issues or track issues as my loft is same and I m starting out

@DeanPark 3 жыл бұрын

Since this video a lot has changed. The loft was insulated by silver insulation foil. It’s not damp or as cold now.

@IZZYINN2 7 жыл бұрын

Hello Dave I'm just getting started with a train setup & like a fool i have jumped right into buying trains of ebay plus bridges & landscapes Spent over £500.00 this week alone & never gave it a thought on how to power the trains, whats the difference on DC to DCC please help as i'm in over my head now. cheers for the now

@DeanPark 7 жыл бұрын

simply put go for DCC! DCC allows you to control more than one train on each track, gives more lighting, sound options, allows you to drive the trains more realistically. It allows you a lot more than traditional dc. DC is the old way to control trains, you can control the acceleration, deceleration and lighting at the touch of a button. dc needs track isolation sections to allow trains to run on the same track at the same time. Simply put, DC is the past. DCC is the future. Honestly, it allows so much more for you to get involved with. Its easy to set up and use. I was new to it back in 2012 and went straight into DCC. Read plenty of magazines, check out the Hornby website, RMWEB etc. Just look and listen to what I say I this video. If it doesn't sell you on DCC I will be surprised lol. Dave

@IZZYINN2 7 жыл бұрын

Cheers Dave, I have put loads of thought into my track layout & what i want I mean i have 25foot by 3foot to play with one big empty room 15foot high, so a hobby for years & years to come, just forgot about the power. don't have any limit on price so what do you think i should spend cheers for the now

@bloodmarine77 11 жыл бұрын

i had the elite unit and hated it so i ended up getting the bachmann dynamis unit instead.

@black.diablo.m2 2 жыл бұрын

The only question I have as a novice is, with two dials, does that mean you can only run two locomotives at a time?

@DeanPark 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can switch to others at the same time and run numerous locos….but you only have instant control of two at once

@DanKeeley 3 жыл бұрын

Haha bit cold in the loft is it!

@DeanPark 3 жыл бұрын

It was back then! Before I added foil insulation :-)

@jockmck266 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I was in the loft. I’m out in the shed no heating but in the process of insulation.

@hovermotion 11 жыл бұрын

Re ipad : i droped & damaged mine out of warrenty if you have a apple store not far from you can book an apointment in the store & they may trade the broken one in , thats what i did with no problems but there is a cost to do this...jim

@Cozmictracks 9 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to add from hearing your video about the clock, it resets every time because it's only used for example running to a timetable and can use a real time ratio of 1:1 or a speeded up scale of time up to 1:10 ratio. But I still think no one is ever going to use this function-Hope this was helpful.

@joaomartins7732 4 жыл бұрын

Hi is possible choose CV ?

@DeanPark 4 жыл бұрын

Yes you can select CV's and change their values.

@paulhine4573 8 жыл бұрын

Hi Dave, Like your videos but can I ask a question I'm starting to build my own layout in my loft and would like to know where your bus wire is plugged in to generate the power for the track ? Thanks Paul

@DeanPark 11 жыл бұрын

There are better ones on the market but they will cost £200+, but it is easy to use and pretty good value. Yeah its not cheap but what is these days?!....everything for model railways seems to be going up and up in price! Cheers

@bloodmarine77 11 жыл бұрын

lol yeah its funny how we have to run everything past the boss (wife),lol.i got an ipad about a month ago but i dropped it the other day and it smashed and now dont work and i cant get it fixed as the insurance are not interested.so thats £500 down the drain and im going to have to use the dynamis for a while longer.

@bloodmarine77 11 жыл бұрын

i just didnt get on with the elite.i find the dynamis far better to use.

@Hemfydemfy 9 жыл бұрын

both the trains are from the dutch metro which is cool cause im dutch

@JohnR99 5 жыл бұрын

the Hornby elite DCC Controller Sounds Expensive it is £210.00 at hattons

@jvanamb 5 жыл бұрын

Though I did enjoy your review, I equally didnot like the response of the Elite. Sluggish at the start. Supertrain under operations.

@GDGRailway47712 4 жыл бұрын

My review is, the Hornby Elite is fairly pants. It is horrible to use, awkward to switch between locos and accessories, the speed controller knobs are inconsistent in their responses. All in all I'd give it 3 out of 10.

@DeanPark 4 жыл бұрын

Clay Mills Junction hi, it can be awkward when trying to come from multiple locos. Back whrn I did this video it was good, but it’s in need of an upgrade now! I switched to the ESU ECOS system. I’ve just uploaded a video on that and how I integrated it with dcc concepts equipment!