DEAR LOGIC PRO 11 I Tried ABLETON LIVE 12

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Who Is Alex Elliott

Who Is Alex Elliott

Күн бұрын

After using Logic Pro for over a decade, I finally decided to give Ableton Live 12 a try-and it completely blew me away! In this video, I showcase some of the key benefits and features of Ableton Live 12 have me on the fence about switching from Logic Pro 11. From its intuitive interface to powerful workflow enhancements, discover why Ableton Live 12 might be the right choice for you.
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03:43 - Sound Design
11:35 - I Need Help
12:00 - CPU Usage
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@Ableton
@Ableton 15 күн бұрын
Welcome to the fam 🔥
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 15 күн бұрын
Glad to be apart ❤️🙌
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 15 күн бұрын
If you’re ever up for endorsing people I’m ready! 🙌🙌🙌😂
@JamesWolfsbane
@JamesWolfsbane 14 күн бұрын
Ableton I like your daw, BUT the only way to add a mono instrument or audio is by using utility mono and its not making the sounds truly mono. Please fix that!!! PLEASE!!! I bought Ableton 11, Logic Pro, fl studio, and logic is the only one that allow me to add a Mono track by default. Please Ableton 🙏🏼 is that so difficult for your developers to do?
@svperman_lod
@svperman_lod 12 күн бұрын
@@JamesWolfsbane it monos for me just fine. I’ve even put it on a few (mono/stereo graph) stuff like Ozone & even as far as my shaper box.
@JamesWolfsbane
@JamesWolfsbane 11 күн бұрын
@@svperman_lod no man. Trust your ears more than any graph. Try with a synthesizer, make it mono with ableton and then do the same with Logic Pro make it mono. You will see the difference. Don’t take me wrong I like ableton very much. But they have to fix that. I can’t believe nobody notice the difference
@annakat03
@annakat03 Ай бұрын
Started using Ableton only because the tutorials I was watching were using Ableton too. After 8 years of using it, I still haven't even scratched the surface of what it's capable of, because I've stopped exploring further. Thanks for making me see it as a wondrous "toy" again 😄😄
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Haha no problem. Thanks for sharing. The fact you’re still finding stuff makes me excited for the future also!
@oddtheysee4043
@oddtheysee4043 8 күн бұрын
@@annakat03 4 month using..more explore ..u feel want to explore more..😬
@lmpcrew
@lmpcrew Ай бұрын
Man, you've learnt so much already in this short space of time. Another inciteful video. DOPE 🔥🔥👌🏾
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Hahah 😅
@NC17z
@NC17z Ай бұрын
This is an amazing reaction video. Thank you for posting this. It is brutally honest and refreshing to see.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! At first I thought it was too honest but hit upload anyways 😂
@trespacerooh
@trespacerooh Ай бұрын
It’s so fun to watch people enjoy the tools you use on a day to day! Seeing you get the same joy that I got when I first opened it up is the reason I try to get my friends to try different gear, daw, methods. Hopefully you stick around in Ableton lol
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
I don’t see myself leaving anytime soon. It’s the first time I feel like any thing I imagine is possible 🙌
@so_ma_music
@so_ma_music Ай бұрын
In Ableton I like to make my own synths. Not with Max4Live, but rather combining sounds/synths into one. Let's say you want a synth where you can play 3 different kind of sounds at once (eg.: lead, bass and something else in the middle to fill out the space). You can easily make those 3 sounds in the default Operator, Meld, Wavetable synths or any other VST plugin you want. Once you made the first sound, you can actually group itself, and you can add the two next synth instances below. Once I'm done with the sounds, I usually add some post processing and effects, which I then map to macros (you can add as many you'd like!) and hide all the elements. At the end I'm basically left with a great sounding box of parameters without seeing all the other technical stuff! Also once you set up something like this, you can randomize the macros with the "r" button on the top (this also works with drums/sounds inside Drum Rack) so you have endless possibilities. Hope this was interesting and that you will try it out :)
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
oh my goodness. This is proper mad scientist stuff and I love it 🙌
@jaredbobier2844
@jaredbobier2844 Ай бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliottonce you dive into the chain selector for instrument and effect racks everything kinda explodes. The possibilities with this daw are truly endless. Also, the drum rack has its own send/return inside of it, so you can do parallel compression, add reverb and all the stuff ON THE SAME CHANNEL, but in parallel. It’s nuts. Also, you can select individual samples out of a drum rack for side chain inputs!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
@@jaredbobier2844 so much to learn!
@nelswebs
@nelswebs 12 күн бұрын
In fl we have patcher and we can create any instrument or effects plugin that we want using a similar workflow to this
@so_ma_music
@so_ma_music 12 күн бұрын
@@nelswebs true true, FL patcher goated as well
@mang0mag1c
@mang0mag1c Ай бұрын
My absolute favourite feature in Ableton is the fact that once I hit A for automation (same as Logic which is helpful), I can hit any parameter inside my plugin or effect and automatically it shows up in the automation lane! It's SO intuitive!!!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Logic does this now also. But in general drawing automation in ableton is way better!
@DavidIsbister
@DavidIsbister 11 күн бұрын
Some fun things that I like about/to do in Live: 1. Set an LFO to random and map it to all kinds of different stuff. One really cool one is to map it to the arpeggiator "Type," which will create all sorts of generative-sounding stuff (which you can then resample and pick and choose your favorite bits). 2. Of course, the External Instrument is fun to use with external synths. People have also created synth controllers in Max4Live for a lot of popular synths, so you can automate the knob-twiddling. Sometimes getting the recorded audio to line up correctly can be challenging, though. 3. Just the simplicity of the mixer, - which isn't trying to emulate a hardware mixing console - is great, compared to PT. The way you can just drag and drop tracks into groups, etc., is so intuitive. 4. All of the stock instruments and devices are pretty stellar. I love that they have their own design language so that plugins are easy-to-approach, vs. the skeuomorphic mess of other DAWs.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing some amazing points. Point 1 & 4 are the greatest for me! I love these two things 🙌❤️💯
@oddtheysee4043
@oddtheysee4043 8 күн бұрын
@@DavidIsbister maybe no need serum..yeahh 🤔
@beatkultr
@beatkultr 20 күн бұрын
bro im super glad i found you. your excitement is everything to me. im a studio one guy but love creating in bitwig studio and ableton live. ive been recently trying cubase but naw. cubase is kool but Live 12 is where it is especially after recent update to 12.1 OMG!! It was fun watching you go thru each device testing your sound
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 20 күн бұрын
Thanks bro. Loving all these comments and really glad to have you as part of the community 🙌🙌
@remyvegamedia
@remyvegamedia 17 күн бұрын
I was on Logic for 15 years. I got on Ableton about 2 years ago and it has been the biggest positive changes in my workflow since I can remember. I am constantly blown away by the capabilities of this DAW. Honestly, the session view is what really convinced me. Getting parts down on the fly and mixing and matching phrases and adding fills etc. for arrangements using clips/scenes has been a game changer. Then when I started learning the endless power of Abletons racks it was like a revelation to me.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 17 күн бұрын
I concur with all that you’ve said. I tried going back to logic the other day and it was painful to create in. I even prefer doing vocals in ableton now also! But I think out of habit I’ll still mix in logic if it’s a external clients song because I like seeing the plugins in the mix window
@remyvegamedia
@remyvegamedia 17 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott Yeah man I was doing just that, still mixing on Logic, for the first year or so and it worked out really well. Once I got more comfortable with how Ableton works I actually did make the full switch for mixing too. But that's just because it made the mose sense for me with my current setup. But ay I'm subscribed. Definitely gonna be checking out more of your stuff. The drums on this beat were doooope, man.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
Maybe I should just trust and make the full switch also. 😅. And thanks for the words of encouragement. Glad to have you apart of the community
@itsnopez
@itsnopez 15 күн бұрын
Love the excitement! I moved from Reason to Ableton years ago and felt the same as you... still feel so pumped every time I open the app up[ (Daily!)
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 15 күн бұрын
It’s so much fun!
@thatmaestro
@thatmaestro 9 күн бұрын
In Logic you can create 'favourite' folders and categorise them. So you can access the plugins you want quickly there too. Just found out the other day :D
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 9 күн бұрын
@@thatmaestro yes I love this feature, it takes a while at first but it so worth it. Most other DAW have this also including studio one, Cubase and Abelton 👌👌👌
@malicksidibe3379
@malicksidibe3379 15 күн бұрын
Glad you're on the A-Train I literally dropped what you said in this video during a presentation where I introduced Ableton to some students: "You can do everything with anything in Ableton." It actually feels like a philosophical statement. ^_^
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 15 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 “momma I made it”. That’s awesome bro. Glad to be making an impact
@maxvlaarhoven
@maxvlaarhoven 16 күн бұрын
FANTASTIC VIDEO, will strart Ableton this week. Also ordering the push, excited!!!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
I’m super excited for you also 🙌🙌🙌
@maxvlaarhoven
@maxvlaarhoven 16 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott JUST LITERALLY BOUGHT SUITE + MY PUSH, TOTAL NOOB HERE #ALLIN
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
🙌🙌🙌🙌. AMAZING ❤️. So much fun and creativity in your future
@mrclaytron
@mrclaytron 14 күн бұрын
Man, I felt the same way when I switched to Ableton Live 9 around 2015 (I think). I cane from Cakewalk Sonar and jumped ship when it became apparent Gibson who owned Cakewalk at that time were not gonna support it anymore. After making the switch, it just blew my mind - the workflow is better than anything I had tried before. Oh, and I purchased it with Push, and its been incredible. Ive had Push 2 and now 3 standalone, which is an absolute beast haha. There's NOTHING else on the market that can compare to Ableton. You are right - its just FUN, and despite insane flexibility and power, it feels like playing with some magical toy. I can't get enough!!! Great video man, I already checked a few of your videos - I've subscribed, I like your vibe and attitude! Keep up the good work man!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 14 күн бұрын
Ahh I’m glad you have joined the community and yes Abelton is so fun. I’m looking forward to exploring it more and playing around with the sessions view. My friend lent me his push 2 but I havnt even managed to fully dive into that yet. So much to explore 🙌
@m1mk2901
@m1mk2901 16 күн бұрын
wowzers , this really catched me haha thanks for the video, i felt the same as you when i switched and i will never go back been using live for 11 years now
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
🙌🙌🙌
@cloveflier
@cloveflier Ай бұрын
you said the keyword....MODULAR, cause that is exactly the feeling i had when i started using it, that combined with a push and everything is laid out on the knobs, crazy, making an audio track into a melody midi track or harmony or even drum track ,experimentation is around the corner then, i use live for 10 years or something and i still find new ways to do things.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
That makes me really excited! 🙌🙌. I love DAW that keep on giving
@Jeremy_Kinsey
@Jeremy_Kinsey 6 күн бұрын
Hi Alex, I'm a new subscriber, as of this video. I totally relate with you! I'm somewhat new to Ableton as well, but I'm using it as more of an instrument than a DAW. I have Maschine, Ableton and 3 analog synths synced together as separated instruments with mono feeds to Pro Tools. I realize this is a month old & I'm late to the party, but keep making more Ableton videos. I like how you went through it but didn't sit on each point for too long, the flow was good! Cheers from Vegas.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 6 күн бұрын
Ah thanks for the positive feedback. I will do!
@Jeremy_Kinsey
@Jeremy_Kinsey 6 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott Much love, bro!
@SPROCKET23
@SPROCKET23 Ай бұрын
The midi generation and manipulation is amazing. Interfaces brilliantly and easily with external gear also.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
I’m excited to test it with my external gear and CV inputs with my moog synth also!
@jm-6186
@jm-6186 Ай бұрын
there's an effects chain and a drum rack you can use. i think you can use the drum rack as a sampler. i haven't tried it but it should be doable. also you can map almost anything to your keyboard, or to your midi controller. you don't have to go into the settings, mess around, figure out how to create a shortcut, use a key combination that doesn't already exist. you can just press the key or midi map button at the top of the daw, click on something on the screen, click on a button on your keyboard or midi controller, click the key or midi map button to disable that mode. and for the rest of that session, you can use whatever button you pressed to toggle or control that parameter that you selected. almost anything can be mapped.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
I’ve been messing with this a lot to map my maschine to Abelton and it’s been super fun!
@joshuagrajer
@joshuagrajer 10 күн бұрын
Great video. You should really explore the Session view as well. The workflow of arranging clips and pairing them up like working with Lego bricks is such a massive game changer on the creative writing stage for me.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 10 күн бұрын
Yes I just need to work out how to transfer the midi I’ve recorded in arrange view into a clip session view 😅
@j.e9971
@j.e9971 15 күн бұрын
Been an Ableton user and supporter for over 15 years now. You'll never go back! Congrats and welcome to the fam!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 14 күн бұрын
One thing I will say is the Abelton community has been soo welcoming ❤️
@j.e9971
@j.e9971 14 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott we got your back fam!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 14 күн бұрын
I can feel it haha
@stuart.s.
@stuart.s. Ай бұрын
In really like Ableton, the clip view it’s so useful, and I love the simplicity of how the effects are shown alongside the arrangement. The only thing my brain struggles with it the horizontal fx chain. The FL format of a vertical stack of FX on the mixer just makes more sense to me. Maybe I will revisit it again on the future. I do wish they used a similar model to FL of pay once rather than having to pay for further upgrades, but a minor point.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
The horizontal work flow does take some getting used to. But I’m totally used to it now. It’s a really fun DAW. I still need to check out how fruity is these days
@leroycarr9
@leroycarr9 Ай бұрын
Just ran across this video and your channel. I will subscribe and look into more of your content. I love your attitude and your energy about music creation. I feel the same way just playing around in Ableton Live and for sometime now I have been wondering about picking up Logic and giving it a go. So far I have resisted as I can't say that I lack anything for music creation within Live -- just curious about Logic and will, still, probably try it out. But in relation to what you asked. I have gotten pleasing results with the Arpeggiator. For one example, I loaded a grand piano (one six-note chord) and placed the Arpeggiator before that and the Random generator before the Arp. I chose "Diverge" for style and played with the Random settings until I got something I liked. Next I added the Autofilter, the Delay and the Reverb and played with those until I was satisfied. Then I added an LFO to modulate various parameters. Lots of fun and in the end a very usable musical result. Don't want to go on too long here, but just to add, besides building Max For Live devices there are lots of incredible free and for-purchase devices out there already. Check out Max For Live devices that are already included in Ableton Live Suite for a start. Since you mentioned the "modular" feel of Ableton eventually check out something like Kit by Fors. They make great Max devices but at a cost. All the best.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Awsome thankyou for sharing this valuable information. And your sound design process is elite. Love it! I’ll check out “KIT by Fors” for sure! Regarding logic defo give it a go as I honestly know many daw and found them great for different things. Logic will be my go to for mixing and tracking large vocal sessions still.
@larsi1206
@larsi1206 Ай бұрын
Jippi!!🎉 you actually liked Ableton!!! That’s really great to hear!!! I knew you would like it Now you should buy the m4l tool BIP (bounce in place) and Clip gain to get some more tools to make things easier! And also session cleaner and auto track colour! Hope these tools helps!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
I’m so nervous to try the track colour things incase it is messing with abelton code and I can’t undo it. Is it safe. It looks awsome … I saw with BIP that it didn’t work on certain versions of Ableton which made me nervous about the ongoing support for some of the Max4Live plugins in the future. Regarding Ableton yeah I’m absolutely loving it. Have to thank all yours and the communities comments for suggesting it to me!
@larsi1206
@larsi1206 Ай бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott yeah, but its not like m4l changes ableton internal code. Its reads API from ableton instead. And yeah some of the m4l devices can crash ableton but I’m using all of those^^^^ and I have never crashed because of m4l in live 12… my ableton is crashing because I have like 150-200 tracks and 12 return tracks and not enough ram😵‍💫😵‍💫 But honestly live 12 feels much more stable than live 11
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Ok I’ll give the colours one a try cause that feels like my vibe! 🙌
@N8oRMusic
@N8oRMusic 7 күн бұрын
I tried to get into Ableton many times. It didn't make sense to me. Been a Logic user since 1996 and i can't seem to break away from it. It just makes so much sense to me as a songwriter. I guess if you're more into just making beats and weird sounds then you'd be attracted to Ableton but as a musician who plays actual instruments I find Logic to be unbeatable.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your view point 👌☺️
@mingofaas5809
@mingofaas5809 Ай бұрын
Dope video and welcome to the Ableton fam. Consider this: Ableton has trouble delay compensating within efffect chains. So let's say you have Pro L2 in your chain, introducing latency (shown in the bottom left as ms), if you put a kickstart/shaperbox/lfo tool/tremolator or anything like that after it, the timing will be off. But once you know, you can work around it with midi triggers.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
So I realised that about limiter. And I just keep it off the master of the season now until the end. Luckily most of my set up is Pulsar modular stuff which is running great latency wise.
@mingofaas5809
@mingofaas5809 Ай бұрын
​@@WhoIsAlexElliott What I meant is a little different. Let's say you have track with a pad sound and you use a linear phase Pro Q3, which introduces 116.1 ms of latency. Then you add a kickstart to duck it. This kickstart ducking will not be in synch to the rest of the project, but 116.s ms off. So the timing of the pad itself is correct, but the timing of the ducking is off. This is different from the way other DAWs like logic handle latency within the effect chain of a track. You can test this easily with the Pro Q3 in linear phase or any other effects that introduce additional latency (example all the Soundtoys, all Arturia FX, all UAD FX to name a few). Hope this made it clear :)
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
@@mingofaas5809 sorry yes it made sense to me. This latency issue is present even with the master limiter on the end of my chain because Elevates adds over 100ms of latency also. So I realised very quickly to use low latency stuff only and actually found myself just using the built in Abelton FX and really loving them! I think I’ll just have to go back to respecting mastering as a separate thing again. I like Ableton to run in a way where at any point I can play something in without latency.
@tgninja1088
@tgninja1088 24 күн бұрын
@@mingofaas5809 this problem is gone with live 12
@crazzylee
@crazzylee 11 күн бұрын
You got me. I subscribed and looking to buy Ableton. I feel you on how it makes you feel like a kid again just toying around. The MPC is fun likewise but in the hardware sense.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 11 күн бұрын
Yeah I’m having lots of fun!!
@freisigmedia
@freisigmedia 9 күн бұрын
The time stretch engine in Ableton is completely nuts!!!...I love it. I can for sure show you some features that will make your head spinn. I am a logic user since 1998 and still are. But i only use it for Mixing.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 9 күн бұрын
I think I’m becoming like you. Logic just for mixing because if it’s traditional mixer view and being able to run more plugins. Please send me some links to some features 🙌🙌🙌
@GrantTregellas
@GrantTregellas Ай бұрын
I used Logic 9 for a while. Was very frustrated with the workflow. I decided just for the hell of it to install a Ableton Live Lite that had come bundled with an audio interface. I worked on that for about 5 minutes and decided to switch DAWS. Eventually got the full version. Been using Live for 10 years now.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
It’s so intuitive. I also switched by accident. I was doing programming for a live show and needed to send some stuff to ableton so thought let me just get the trial and learn basic. Then I fell in love ❤️
@GC-nd1lp
@GC-nd1lp Ай бұрын
I couldn't tell if you were doing this or not, but you can open folders with the right arrow key and close them with the left arrow key. So basically, when you get to the last drum sample, press left arrow to close the folder you are in, press down to the next folder, then press right arrow key and keep browsing.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Ooo that’s going to save so much time Thankyou 🙌🙌
@SoftClip_Q
@SoftClip_Q Ай бұрын
also around 3:30 i see how your working with it. you may prefer how it is now. but if you want you can right click on the saturation knob plugin for example or somewhere in the browser background of plugins and right click and uncheck group by creator if you prefer all your saturation plugins being in a list for example when you hit saturation.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Yes I absolutely want that. It was like that before the recent update. And I much preferred it before! Thanks so much for this!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Bro just changed it now. Thankyou so much. Please Drop anymore tips you have for me!
@dan_tanna
@dan_tanna 18 күн бұрын
Great video Bro! I've been using Ableton since version 5 and there's definitely a way that you can save cpu power. And that's by freezing/and or flattening the tracks
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 18 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot for the tip!
@dan_tanna
@dan_tanna 18 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott NO problem Bro! Just right click on the selected track and select freeze track.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 18 күн бұрын
👌💯🙌
@felixgarciaordonez9258
@felixgarciaordonez9258 Ай бұрын
Expresion control lets you map (or randomize) any parameter to velocity, Aftertouch, modwheel, etc. Performer, in version 12 lets you create macros across different tracks. Those are the greatest hits for me
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Ooooo so if I have an after touch keybboard I could map that?
@felixgarciaordonez9258
@felixgarciaordonez9258 Ай бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott that's right, and you can even calibrate the response curve to your needs. It works a bit like the lfos but it's a midi effect so you have to place it before the synth or whathever, first thing in the chain
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
@@felixgarciaordonez9258 that’s crazy! 😅
@OldogNuTricks
@OldogNuTricks 11 күн бұрын
And you're still in the arrangement view. For me coming from Cubase and before that Cakewalk and some exposure to Pro Tools the workflow of the Clip View was a seismic shift in how I approached recording and production. Ableton could just do so many things that I had been wishing I could do but didn't know how to - at least on my hobbyist budget. Welcome to the adventure. It is a DAW which seems to have been made for musicians and creators rather than studio techs.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 11 күн бұрын
🙌🙌🙌🙌 can’t wait to get into the Clip view. I’d been scared to test it out cause it’s so alien to me but everyone in the comments has given me confidence
@OldogNuTricks
@OldogNuTricks 11 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott Almost all of my creative workflow and even, ironically, planning the arrangement, is done in clip view. I will use arrangement view for mixing and mastering but that is the end of the process. The "Live" in Ableton live is largely due to the flexible nature of clip view. It allows us to play/perform live our productions as well as create them. If you are interested in seeing how I do this here is a link to my channel. www.youtube.com/@OldogNuTricks Different genre than what you are doing but you get the idea.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 11 күн бұрын
Thankyou for sending the link. I think because clip view is second nature to ableton people, there aren’t many straight forward videos explaining how to do it.
@plant_9239
@plant_9239 Ай бұрын
my favorite feature of ableton is the automation hands down it's soooooo simple to modulate parameters in plugins and more often than not ableton labels them correctly, I've been using ableton since 2015 and haven't regretted switching from FL all those years ago, ableton has a funny way of making complex tasks easy and more doable, I find it's like an extension of my body at this point now that I have the shortcuts burned into my brain. I feel like, while ableton isn't the best looking DAW it's not there for looks, it's there to help you get stuff done and I love it cause it doesn't get in my way in the same way that a DAW like Logic or FL Studio would. However, I gotta say I'm not trying to drag these other daws down, at the end of the day it doesn't matter what DAW you use so long as you can do what you want to do in it. The tools don't matter, the DAW is just a means to an end. But I'm glad you gave ableton a fair shot.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
💯🙌. You’re right about not dragging other daws down. And whatever works for the individual is the right one!
@RenZZoLFX
@RenZZoLFX Ай бұрын
You can freeze individual tracks to free up cpu processing power. At the bottom right corner of the Mixer area, toggle Show Performance Impact by clicking the button marked "C." This will show you the CPU usage for each track
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
The issue is it’s actually the mixing I do on my busses/groups and master busses so freezing is as much of an option. For now I’ve been just using stock ableton stuff way more and having fun! I reach for the built in saturator before anything else now 😅
@toavnwub
@toavnwub Ай бұрын
I felt the same way when I switched to bitwig (from fl studio) It's really cool seeing your excitement man, it's just fun!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Haha thanks. I’m really enjoying myself and so many people are mentioning bitwig!
@josealejandrogarciarojas1115
@josealejandrogarciarojas1115 22 күн бұрын
​@@WhoIsAlexElliottIt's modulation system is just the best. Audio editing is a bit better than Live's. But MIDI clip editing ain't it :/
@nowondr
@nowondr 15 күн бұрын
@@josealejandrogarciarojas1115 yeah, I hope the piano roll gets some love in the near future. Bitwig does so much better than Live that I have a hard time going back, but there are definitely a few areas where Live still shines
@nathanieljohnsonjr775
@nathanieljohnsonjr775 12 күн бұрын
Hopped on at Ver 9! Every record since then has been done in Ableton! I love that program!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 12 күн бұрын
Feel like that’s going to be my same story but for version 12
@bcole23
@bcole23 7 күн бұрын
Just came to ableton from Studio One and it is like going from a Model-T to a Ferrari. I LOVE it!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 7 күн бұрын
Haha that’s how I felt also. Studio one has some great features though. I love the inbuilt summing thing they have!
@williampaulsonpth7915
@williampaulsonpth7915 16 күн бұрын
Another dope thing about the browser is how when testing your samples in real time as the project plays its automatically warped to the project tempo...so for eg where I make the most of that is a go through drumloops as the project plays and it plays it in sync with project as I scroll through them with the arrow keys...soon as I here one I like then into the project it goes
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
It’s so awesome!
@Dmyra
@Dmyra Ай бұрын
One Giant Modular synth.. that is it, thats why i love it. and it has a Giant Grove box with Session View. except for bitwig i think this is the only DAW that is really made by the people who Want to use it. it just makes So Much Sense, only people that Love something can do that. We need to demand as much from more products.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
It’s really puts others to shame. When it comes to features. You can tell the developers are passionate
@DaddaPsy
@DaddaPsy 16 күн бұрын
Ableton really shines when you start building your own Instrument and Effect racks. By utilizing the chain selector, you can crossfade between different instruments/effects or just use it as a simple selector between different groups. If you need some inspiration for what you can do, Ned Rush, Virtual Riot and Au5 are good sources for really technical stuff that you can do. Perhaps not your main genre they produce but nevertheless, great sources of information and inspiration!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
Thankyou I’m going check out their content as I’m super technically inclined. 🤓. LOVE THE NERDY STUFF!!!! And yes I’ve been saving my own racks later which is awesome. I also realised I can save a group of instruments also. So for example I have an orchestral string group with seprate violin, cello, bass instruments and when I saved the group it saved it exact with my mix. So I can simply load up 5 instruments under one preset 🙌🙌🙌
@DaddaPsy
@DaddaPsy 16 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott Yep! I've made racks for my mostly used synths where the macro's are pre-mapped. Makes everything soooo much easier. Having default audio and midi tracks can also be a something to look at. If you know that you always put on a certain plugin chain for every track (like EQ and a compressor maybe?), you can load that to an empty track, right-click and choose "Save as default track". Every new track you create, will add those plugins to your channel
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
@DaddaPsy Thankyou!
@BulAGOAT
@BulAGOAT Ай бұрын
I was here mentally in 2017-18, and moved my production to ableton. Still love logic Pro for recording.. Thats the work flow.. make the beat.. mix it in logic/pro-tools.. done.
@BulAGOAT
@BulAGOAT Ай бұрын
Sometimes the mix sounds better in ableton though, because of the process to make a mix happen.. so its a toss up.. HAVE FUN BRO.. you're not cheating on Logic.. lol
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Haha. I’m not cheating right? I felt bad for a little bit
@HoundTakeshi
@HoundTakeshi Ай бұрын
I'd share a little convenient thing. If you're not really using session view with it's clip launching - just drag all the track volume faders up, so that it looks more like a mixing view.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Oh it’s resizable. That’s a great idea! I’m nothing the sessions at all
@Byron101_
@Byron101_ 16 күн бұрын
...do you have the auditioning mode button activated in the Logic Loop Browser? It should be in the bottom-left corner, like so. First it's disabled, but if clicked on once to enable, it should turn green.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
Yeah it makes things play back even slower, some people have said the browser is fine but 9/10 of those people were running everything on internal storage. Every other dAW is blazingly fast whiles running on external storage so is just a logic issue.
@iamvelour
@iamvelour Ай бұрын
Ableton Live is amazing bro! When I started making beats with it I kinda completely stopped making beats in logic. The interface was kind of off putting at first but when it clicks with u it's over lol. I love that they make hardware too with the Ableton Push which I also love. I don't even really use Logic for vocals anymore because I find UAD Luna is just way better for anything audio related too. You gotta try Luna as well for recording and mixing its amazing. Ive been saying for a longtime that logic needs a massive upgrade to its audio engine bro.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Ah bro you’ve sold me. I love DAW’s so I’m keen to try them all! LUNA IS next! I used it few years back when it was new and the channel analogue mixer emulation was so good but there was a lot of missing basic things back then. Keen to see how it is now.
@iceprada2
@iceprada2 Ай бұрын
Yo I use Luna too for audio editing bro, it's dope! Everything is so easy. Idk why people ain't talking about it. I mostly use FL studio for cooking beats but when it comes to editing audio or mixing beats I go to LUNA. I got Ableton too which I'm about to start using the session mode for making beats to dive into another type of creativity
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
@@iceprada2 downloaded LUNA again yesterday and going to check it out! You all got me excited!
@Addiction-Therapy
@Addiction-Therapy Ай бұрын
I’ve been using logic for 10+ years. There are so many issues i feel Apple are just not addressing like the browser. Half of my samples don’t even playback because they are too ‘short’ or start too early for logic to process so I have to use the finder to browse presets sometimes. I have the M3 Max 16 core Mac Pro with 2Tb so all my samples and sounds are stored locally - but I still run into issues and buffering and clipping when one of the processing cores peak. For some reason, they only allow us to use some of the cores for logic. They need to unlock the full potential of the computer! 😀
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Exact same issues I’ve had. Completely relate 😔
@OfoeNelson
@OfoeNelson 5 сағат бұрын
Switched to live when my fl studio crashed and I couldn't recover my project. Live just recovers everything after a crash ,which is rare, and you just continue from where you left off.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 3 сағат бұрын
It’s the little things like this that make the big differences
@JezNashMusic
@JezNashMusic 7 күн бұрын
I love how Logic is still called 'Logic'. Some of the workflow is the most unintuitive activity you're ever likely to do on a DAW. A long-term Logic user, I grudgingly attended a Live demo/tutorial at my uni. I was making beats before the end of the session, and within 6 month's of that I'd released 3 albums. It's not just for electonica stuff, either; i'm currently using it for orchestral composition for TV/film. Live is awesome. It could do with a default RTZ, and zooming is a bit quirky, but otherwise I have no issue with it. Great vid, by the way - sub'd. I often try and ween my students away from Logic onto Live. This vid will really help with that, so thank you!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 7 күн бұрын
Haha honestly I went through the same process as you. A lot of people say it’s not great for doing audio stuff but I actually much prefer ableton “take lanes” for comping over logics
@JezNashMusic
@JezNashMusic 7 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott Live is great for audio, I think. Editing audio is better, too. Logic can't seem to draw a waveform properly!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 7 күн бұрын
@@JezNashMusicyeah the waveform is a mess actually!
@Mike_Benz_
@Mike_Benz_ Ай бұрын
Ableton is a great DAW, really amazing. The look of it is the only thing that I don't love about it. All Abletons Racks is where it is at for me. The Audio Effect Rack (for parallel FX/processing) and Drum Rack (so many possibilities within it, it's nuts), the Instrument Rack for multi layer instruments (also nuts).
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Funny enough I love the look. I love white background DaW with colourful clips 😍😍. It’s super powerful though I agree and looking forward to checking it out more!
@futureworldmachines4407
@futureworldmachines4407 Ай бұрын
You need to get yourself a Novation Launchpad or one of the Akai APC's and use it to control Ableton's session view, serious serious creative fun! 👌
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
😍😍😍🙌🙌🙌
@PoboyMusic
@PoboyMusic Ай бұрын
Ableton push
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
It’s so expensive tho and doesn’t even come with proper ableton that’s a bit cheeky
@kazzd58
@kazzd58 11 күн бұрын
I went to Abelton from Logic Pro 4 years ago… I haven’t been back🤷🏾‍♂️.. for creatives (imo) Abelton fun man.. Good Stuff!!! U get it
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 11 күн бұрын
I feel the exact same way I didn’t change before because at one point there was no take lanes or easy way to comp vocals so I didn’t even consider it. Because I’ve made a good additional income from vocal tracking over the years.
@XVIIIPRO
@XVIIIPRO Ай бұрын
i love how ableton lets you rip grooves, and rip melodies and chords into midi 😍
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
How ? 👀👀
@kaislate
@kaislate Ай бұрын
​@@WhoIsAlexElliottDrag a clip from the time line onto a midi track, it will ask if you want to create the midi as harmony, drums, etc. It is ok for simple audio samples. Otherwise NeuralNote plugin gives you much more control to do the same thing.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
When it says create midi as harmony what does that mean?. Will it try to break the chords into their seperate notes 😳😳
@kaislate
@kaislate Ай бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott it is auto settings for things like density, length, etc... try each option for what seems to work best and produces the midi you are looking for. However, I have often seen that it usually either creates way too many notes all the time or just isn't very useable as there are no options to customize the sensitivity. Maybe it works on some styles of music and not others better.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Ok will give it a a try none the less
@kjwworldwide
@kjwworldwide 15 күн бұрын
Wow. I feel you on the browser. I just check my browser in reason 12 and i can move just as fast. Reason 13 has an even faster browser. Speed = More fun to a producer
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 15 күн бұрын
I truly agree with that statement. 💯 “Speed = more fun to a producer”. I tried to go back to logic and speed was the main thing I was struggling with. It’s funny cause I was fine with logic speed until I tried ableton. And now I can’t go back. It’s like experiencing a Ferrari for first time on a race track then having to drive a bus around a race track. Yeah the bus is super practical and can fit lots of people in it but I just want to go fast 😂.
@MaximusWhyman
@MaximusWhyman Ай бұрын
Full screen piano roll = Command + Option + E
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Your a God send!
@aclockworkbeat
@aclockworkbeat Ай бұрын
I love jumping between Logic, Ableton, Maschine and MPC....but when it is time to get work done I am never more productive than when I am using Ableton. I've even learned how to track vocals in Live 12 to the point where I don't find myself ever having to leave unless I am looking for a different experience.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
I love jumping between DaW also. Like owning many cars 😂🙌 Ahh please share your vocal tracking tips. I tracked a song in it recently but I’m still quite slow.
@musicbycub
@musicbycub 11 күн бұрын
Cool video, thank you. How easy is it to switch work flow and tool knowledge from logic to Ableton? I’ve only got 3 years in Logic and not sure my brain can handle learning new tools and DAW layout.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 11 күн бұрын
I don’t want to say it’s easy because I find it easy as I think it’s more challenging than my experience. I think in a way of systems and patterns but I understand not everyone thinks that way. How are you with playing different video games back to back that have different controls and mechanics, can you adjust quickly? (Only example I can think of 😅). It’s really about having the patience to find the shortcuts that do the things you’re accustomed to in logic. I changed DaW around 5-6 times over the years and the only challenge is finding the shortcuts. If you allow yourself the patience to adjust to shortcuts so much of the other stuff is pretty much the same! 🙌🙌. Maybe just give the 30 day demo a try and watch a tutorial on “must know ableton shortcuts” that’s my best advice.
@musicbycub
@musicbycub 11 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott thanks man that’s super helpful! Great analogy too with gaming. Learning new maps and stuff is a lot but it’s time I guess. Just downloading the 30 day trial now. I feel like I’m cheating on Logic! 😂
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 11 күн бұрын
@@musicbycubbro I felt the same. I almost called this video. “Logic Pro I’m having an affair with ableton” 😂😂😂 but I thought the title was too wild. Haha and I love marriage ❤
@Beccakl
@Beccakl 9 күн бұрын
Dude u gotta try Ableton live with the Push!!! Wld love to see what u do with it. They r rlly easy to get ur hands on a secondhand one as well but the latest version is at 3rd generation I think!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 9 күн бұрын
I have a push 2 that I was lent by a friend. So I’m going to have a play with that 👌👌
@termx9144
@termx9144 Ай бұрын
Just purchased LOGIC PRO 11.0.1, the browser file sound lag issues that you mention in the video are not present, time for an update?
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
I own Logic Pro 11 latest version unfortunately. And it’s not just me but several people who still and have always had this issue. But no other daw has the issue. It’s been going on for over a decade and still not fixed. It may be to do with running sounds if external Hardrive. But all other DAW are fine with this as it abelton as demonstrated in the video 😔
@termx9144
@termx9144 Ай бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott That's odd indeed, I just made the test with an external drive (ORICO M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure USB-C Adapter 10Gbps with a Crucial P1 CT1000P1SSD8 1TB Internal SSD >> Works also just fine on my M1 >> Probably (how Logic manages) bandwidth related issue..Maybe this can help other users who are having the same issue...
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Got you. Makes sense that n NVME SSD wouldn’t have any issues at 10GBs hahaha. But majority aren’t as blessed 😂🙌
@mellotom
@mellotom 9 күн бұрын
You gotta try the LFO device and Shaper device, game changers
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 9 күн бұрын
I’ve been having so much fun with them!
@Byron101_
@Byron101_ 16 күн бұрын
Yes. And Cubase’s Media Bay is so fast with thousands of thousands samples too. I have to say, this is the best flexible sample content browser I've ever seen. Wish I had this in Ableton and Logic. :(
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
I couldn’t even think of a quicker browser than Abelton. It’s instant. So I can’t even imagine what Cubase is 😅👌. I tried Cubase but it was so far removed from other DAWs that I just couldn’t get along with it. The learning curve was insane, couldn’t get to grind with the shortcuts. After a week I could barely record in midi/audio parts quickly and make the changes I wanted. But my favour artist “Hans Zimmer” uses it so I know it’s awesome. Just not for me.
@kobebourne
@kobebourne Ай бұрын
haha I feel the same way as you with logic, its just not as fun but I have it mastered. I usually use Ableton as my sample library folder and scroll though sounds there and just import them to logic, but I I might give it a go to make some ideas there and then import them to logic for mixing
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Try it out. It’s been super fun for me. 12 is my first intro to ableton so I think a lot of the features have made it easier for me!
@h-dawg969
@h-dawg969 8 күн бұрын
I really want to try out Ableton, but I’ve never had any experience of it at all. I use Logic myself. Is it an easy enough transition? I record a lot of Bass / Guitar, and use hardware synths and Maschine + Komplete Kontrol as well as working strictly within the Daw. Ableton seems like it integrates better with hardware as well as just being a wicked Daw.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 8 күн бұрын
Full transparency: Something that logic has is the low latency monitor mode that is implemented very well. If your interface doesn’t have a hardware monitoring solution then there’s the possibility of latency issues in ableton unless you run at a very low buffer size which will then cause potential CPU overload depending on how packed your session is. It’s a compromise that’s worth it on the abelton side because the way they deal with latency enables the engine to playback exactly intime which is perfect for live performances. However the draw back is if a plugin adds a lot of latency then it will be noticeable whiles tracking. For me Any audio I record is monitored via my interface so I don’t have this issue but if your tracking guitar and bass whiles monitoring through guitar rig or anything like that then you’d just need to record at a lower buffer size or maybe the plugin has a low latency mode
@h-dawg969
@h-dawg969 8 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott thanks for the quick response mate. I’ve been wanting to get Ableton for ages but I’m worried about having to stray from scratch with a completely new interface and workflow. This 28 day trial sounds like a perfect solution. Where did you find out about that, is it just on their website or something? Cheers mate ;)
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 8 күн бұрын
@@h-dawg969 no problem. Most DAW have this so I just always check for it. But self give it a try and watch a video on shortcuts. You’ll have fun I’m sure
@sixfeetdown86
@sixfeetdown86 17 күн бұрын
What I really struggle with: I love the Logic Instruments. There are endless Synths, keyboards, strings, etc. I‘ve never found the same quality in Ableton. What is your experience?
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 17 күн бұрын
I’ve been producing so long that I’ve curated an extensive library of instruments so I was never using any inbuilt logic sounds or studio one Or Ableton sounds. I believe that Ableton has superior inbuilt synthesis though whereas logic has superior inbuilt sample instruments. If you’re just starting out and want to use only the DAW Free stuff then logic is the way to go! But for overall creativity and sound design and unique sound possibilities. Ableton is the way!
@djjaysmoke
@djjaysmoke Ай бұрын
As a Mac user, I started making beats with Ableton Live, but for some reason, But I see alot of people using FL studios and it seems if you want a certain sound, you can't get in AL but in FL. Is this true?
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
It isn’t true. It just requires and understanding of clipping. I did a video touching on clipping the low end on my channel. Video link: How To Get Insane Bass: Pulsar Modular P44 Magnum: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q66easJ_z9C5n2w.html Also if you want the fruit clipper sound then get “Orange Clip” www.schwabedigital.com/ Many people will try to convince you otherwise but it’s not true. The major FL studio producers send their stems to mix engineers who then go and use pro tools. But the main aggressive sound is from the clipper which has been recreated in that product. Make sure your Ableton sampler is set to the highest quality setting so your drums don’t loose quality. Decap did a video on it. Video link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/npqEaLtjnpO5dmw.htmlfeature=shared Skrillex has some of the best mixes you’ll ever hear. All done in Ableton.
@KimonoEtrange
@KimonoEtrange 17 күн бұрын
You can change your theme to a dark one. Once you do it's hard to go back to original. Also try Echo as a delay option too, it is a something.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 17 күн бұрын
Echo has replaced so many of my other delays hahaha. Love it. Regarding dark themes, I’ve never liked them. I actually always disliked how dark logic was and ableton being bright was an additional switch reason for me. I love how the bright colours look against the white!
@antgeeze7129
@antgeeze7129 Ай бұрын
Maaaan saaaame..never looked back🎉7 yeaars now
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
🙌🙌🙌
@davincixstudiosllc4026
@davincixstudiosllc4026 15 күн бұрын
Ableton is the best DAW for creation out there! Great video but this just scratches the surface of what Ableton can do! The great thing about it is no 2 people will use it the same! Just an amazing program! 👊🏾👊🏾
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 15 күн бұрын
Love that. It’s so customisable
@beatkultr
@beatkultr 20 күн бұрын
You mentioned how you would mix in Logic and make beat in Live, same concept here. I got stagnated in Studio One when it comes to "out of the box" creative vibes. So for me it's mixing in S1 hands down but Live 12 for the beat making. Yes indeed.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 20 күн бұрын
How is S1 these days. I was actually using that daw before but it then became super unstable on my system. S1 was the absolute best software I’ve ever mixed in. I loved in inbuilt summing
@beatkultr
@beatkultr 20 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott wellll, after fender took over it’s hard to tell what happened. I haven’t used s1 heavy in awhile but it seems they improved it 🤷🏽‍♂️.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 20 күн бұрын
For me the issues started around the time that Apple went native
@perge_music
@perge_music 12 күн бұрын
I've struggled to use Ableton, I've tried, spent a lot of money on it and gone on classes to learn it. But whilst it makes sense as such to use I can't translate its workflow to the music I make. It's mainly around the behaviour of the mixer, sends, busses. Every track seems to be a linear string of source + FX so you have loads of tracks. I'd always have sends to common FX and automate those bus tracks. I know all of this is possible with Ableton but all the tutorials, such as this one where it talks about how amazing it is never look at the bits of the DAW that are the bits that I'd want to look at. It's just 'this send adds a bit of reverb', cool, that's not what I'd be using them for. I think the main issue is that when you decide on a DAW one upon a time and learn it, you become comfortable and know where everything is, key combinations, how to achieve the thing you're after without thinking about the UI, you just do it. Then you decide to use a different one and suddenly you're learning the controls all over again, nothing is in the same place or behaves the same so it gets in the way of extracting the music from one's head into sound.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 12 күн бұрын
Yeah it can be tough. When I first when from fruity loops to Cubase it was tough. But then adapter that I went Cubase > Logic > Studio One > Ableton > Logic. I’m not sure what ableton version you had used and I don’t have any knowledge of previous versions before 12. But you have 12 sends (which I use for generic reverbs and delay sends etc). And then you have fx racks which seems to be the thing that really unlocks Abelton. But it’s most likely just not the DAW for you. It just happens to work for me really well. I may do a video on my Ableton layout in the future which could be helpful
@perge_music
@perge_music 11 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott I've got Ableton 11, I didn't upgrade as I've not got value from it yet, I've a Push 2 controller also so went all in :) There are producers that make music that's not too dissimilar to mine that have gone from Logic to it and said it's far easier to be creative with. I've used Cubase and Cakewalk and didn't have a learning curve to figure out, and whilst it's not the same I quite like Maschine, need to have another attempt at getting comfortable with it, force myself to make a record without creeping back to Logic.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 11 күн бұрын
@@perge_musicyeah there are a few things that are clunky. Mainly sends. But depending on how much you value the benefits of Abelton like pure sound design and creativity, then I’d say it’s worth the trade off I only joined at Abelton 12 so that’s all I know also!
@nukenoly8751
@nukenoly8751 Ай бұрын
Yeah huge creative playground. Love Bitwig and Reason too. In fact I own all DAWs because they force me to work differently in good ways. LUNA, Logic, FL, Studio One, Cubase, PT, Gadget, Maschine FUN Tools
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
I’m a lot like you. Love playing with many DAWS for same reason. I make different styles in different things
@ELLIOT8209
@ELLIOT8209 Ай бұрын
Check out the Euclidean sequencer in Ableton
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
This thing already sounds crazy haha. Will check it out!
@Officialcbr
@Officialcbr 15 күн бұрын
lol this is weird to me because never before have I ever considered changing from Logic. But I SWEAR YOU HAVE ME WANTING TO LEARN ABLETON RIGHT NOW AND I JUST WOKE UP!!!!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 15 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂. It has a demo. I’d say give it a go that’s what I did. Then kinda fell in love by accident 😂
@Tapper1969
@Tapper1969 Ай бұрын
I hate the look of Ableton but the workflow is second to none and its stock sounds are great. The fact that the EQ, dynamics and effects are open and visible on each track massively speeds things up and the range of effects is staggering. I’m an M1 Mac user and Logic runs well albeit with its quirky glitches. Sadly, I’ve had many problems with Ableton which seems to crash regularly and I often have to go hunting for a track in Finder because Ableton has lost the link to it (my most stable platform is Reason). Good luck with your journey and I look forward to hearing the results.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
It’s funny I use to hate the look but it also grew on me. Stability wise I’ve only ever used 12 and it hasn’t crashed once yet. Also “Collect all and Save” is your friend. It’ll keep all things from session in one place when you hit save. But either way it’s great you found something that works for you!
@Barney-ii1no
@Barney-ii1no Ай бұрын
as another long time Reason user I have to say I am on the edge of changing daw, I am having so many hard /soft crashes it is infuriating I am someone who ends up having big projects and I think Reason really cant handle that side of things, once the project starts to get big the program starts acting up on me, the vst performance is lagging behind other daws as well because they took so long to go VST
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
I haven’t used reason rears. It was the DAW I used after fruity loops manny years ago. It couldn’t do vocals back then 😅😅. Can imagine it’s come far but unfortunate to hear about the crashing
@foljs5858
@foljs5858 Ай бұрын
the look is one of its main benefits: it doesn't drastically change for the sake of change over time like other pragrams, doesn't have BS colors and animations and gradients to distract, and focuses on what matters!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
@@foljs5858🙌🙌
@zodiac909
@zodiac909 6 күн бұрын
I went from Garageband (using built in loops like a clown), to Reason (felt like a different language), to Logic (which felt cumbersome), then once I took the time to Learn Ableton, it all clicked, and all the other DAWs made sense after that aswell.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 6 күн бұрын
Love that!
@rudolfsilkens604
@rudolfsilkens604 16 күн бұрын
Doing Parallel stuff in a FX Rack on the same track is probably my favourite.
@williampaulsonpth7915
@williampaulsonpth7915 16 күн бұрын
Amen...though I wont lie when I'm mixing it's always a flip of a coin whether Ima make a fx rack and mix parallel there or just use a send...cause of my old ass laptop I kinda just revert to a send to save CPU just incase its an effect I want to use on multiple tracks...but the option is still great though
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
Old ass laptops always forcing us to change our workflows 😅
@longnose7405
@longnose7405 16 күн бұрын
The browser in Logic is the thing that makes me go ballistic! So many updates and i still can’t monitor a loop properly together with the master loop that i work on. So frustrating 😢
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
It’s unacceptable!
@ukskatescott
@ukskatescott Ай бұрын
Abletons CPU meter isn't showing total CPU usage they have a explanation on the website but its long, something to do with resources to process blocks of audio or something
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
That makes sense!
@isaacmanford5423
@isaacmanford5423 Ай бұрын
Thank you. Someone finally speaks
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
💪🙌👌
@dannyboycinco
@dannyboycinco 18 күн бұрын
as an ableton user who abandoned Logic Pro 6 years ago... this brought back fond memories of exploring this DAW for the first time
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 18 күн бұрын
Haha glad I could help unlock back that core memory. ❤️🙌😅. It’s such a wonderful playground!
@Kris_jellybeard
@Kris_jellybeard Ай бұрын
I switched to Ableton during the covid lockdowns after 15+ years Logic. I haven't touched Logic anymore since and I am way more productive.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
I can see how this is TRUE! 🙌
@Richard-et8eu
@Richard-et8eu Ай бұрын
Don't sleep on the envelope follower device. Also creative extensions is a must have ableton pack for me.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Ooo what’s the envelope follower. I saw it but couldn’t figure it out?
@nckcn4923
@nckcn4923 Ай бұрын
​@@WhoIsAlexElliott it takes the input you assign and creates an envelope that can then be used to modulate parameters of other effects. For example; you can place the envelope follower on a hi hat track and then map the envelope it creates to modulate any parameter of any other effect on a different track. The parameter you assign it to will now modulate based on the exact groove and dynamics of the hi hat in real time. Super dope and powerful tool.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
@@nckcn4923 OHHH MY GOSH! I’m about to go crazy with that one then 😂😂😂💯🙌
@nckcn4923
@nckcn4923 Ай бұрын
It's crazy bro, basically exactly what you used the LFO for, just using the other elements in the beat as a source. Would love a video showing a full beat being made in ableton!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
That’s got me super excited. And I think I’ll be making stuff in ableton a lot so a video will come up for sure!
@Ayecartermusic
@Ayecartermusic 23 күн бұрын
I’m a logic user and just started producing house but thinking to switch to Ableton.. I’m just unsure because I like the mixing and mastering features in Logic. On top of that learning a new daw! Was it easy to learn for you?
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 23 күн бұрын
Honestly I find ableton extremely easy! And you can always still mix in logic. But if you make house you’re have a lot of fun in ableton! ❤
@Ayecartermusic
@Ayecartermusic 23 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott I've been stuck on how to get my closed hi hat wav to be a playable midi. You know how in logic you use the sampler, trying to figure that out for the past two or three hours lol
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 23 күн бұрын
@Ayecartermusic use simpler. Search for simpler or sampler and you drag wav form into that. Also I’d say save simpler as you default midi track. So so when you load a new one it automatically has it
@Ayecartermusic
@Ayecartermusic 22 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott bruh on god thank you so much. I'm basically trying to figure out everything I did in Logic to do in Ableton, then I'll be good to experiment a bit more with it. but thanks again
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 22 күн бұрын
@@Ayecartermusicno problem bro. Anytime
@Maximussilentium01-mh3vd
@Maximussilentium01-mh3vd 13 күн бұрын
the best features are its audio warping. drop a song samp on a track. then drop another on a second track and its perfectly tempo synced
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 13 күн бұрын
And it does it whiles sounding awesome also. Never heard a better warping algorithm
@Kris_jellybeard
@Kris_jellybeard Ай бұрын
I am wondering, +70% CPU? What Mac do you have? I never get to 70...
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Your template isn’t intense as mine if you never get 70% 😅. I use the highest oversampling setting on most of my buss processing stuff. Clipping & limiters on x32 oversampling etc
@ChrisLaupama
@ChrisLaupama Ай бұрын
What’s your buffer rate? For a direct comparison ensure that your buffer rate is set to the same as Logic.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
@@ChrisLaupama yes the buffers are set the same. The two DAW just handle multi core performance different. I noticed with ableton when you bypass a plugin the latency is still there so maybe it works on a basis where it doesn’t relieve CPU load for bypassed plugins.
@Jime0326
@Jime0326 17 күн бұрын
Thank you
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 17 күн бұрын
No problem !
@eddiesimonmusic
@eddiesimonmusic Ай бұрын
I think that Ableton caters to a certain demographic of genres of music.. Not sure if a Country Rock musician or Jazz muso would use it… but maybe I’m wrong Are you using an external HD to operate Ableton ?
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Very solid point. I make music that suits Abelton very well! And yes I use an external Hardrive always so when I upgrade my computer all my sounds/files/personal instruments and settings are located in the exact same place.
@nowondr
@nowondr 15 күн бұрын
You should give Bitwig a try too. It is arguably a bit less feature rich due to being younger than Ableton, but it is functionally very similar. Bitwig also does modulation/automation/and audio editing better than any other DAW out there imo. I use them both and would say Ableton has a bit more to offer in terms of traditional DAW functionality and native effects, but find Bitwig to be even more creatively fulfilling than Ableton and if I am going for a non-linear approach, it is the one I reach for more often now
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 14 күн бұрын
Awesome. So many people have told me to try bitwig that I absolutely must know what the fuss is about 🙌
@MKS21471
@MKS21471 Ай бұрын
YES!!! I’ve been saying for a while that Ableton + Max is like a modular synth. Completely agree
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Loving it 🙌
@Byron101_
@Byron101_ 16 күн бұрын
LOL. Bitwig is waaay better in this !
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
@@Byron101_everyone has there preferences. What one person loves may not be for everyone. But I’m excited to test Bitwig
@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69
@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 Ай бұрын
Yeah man. I've been in Logic Pro for over 5 years and hated Ableton. Tried Ableton lite hated it so much. After awhile I kept watching tutorials and most were in Ableton and that's when I started to really see their plugins and finally realized I should just get it because it seems if you want to make electronic music then you need Ableton or FL Studio. I got Ableton last October in time to get the free update to 12. Now I'm sitting here wondering why I didn't just get Ableton from the beginning. It's Ableton's workflow that makes it so superior too, everything makes sense. If you're out to make electronic music working with samples and midi then Ableton is the best way to go. Logic just isn't that great for midi even though they're practically similar in so many ways. Not to mention Max for live devices and the fact that you can get into making your own plugins is the sprinkles and cherry on top. I absolutely LOVE Ableton Live. I call it Ableton even though it's actually called Live.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Haha never knew it was called live. But that makes sense cause ableton is the company who also make push and max for live etc 😅🙌. It seems I had the same journey as you. Whenever I tried it, it just seemed awkward but whatever they have done since that version I tired years ago has made it so much easier for me. I think the version ableton of I saw years back could hardly record vocals and had no take folders! 🙈🙈
@XVIIIPRO
@XVIIIPRO Ай бұрын
ableton and FL are dancing all over logic for production right now
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
hate to admit cause I’ve used logic for nearly 2 decades but. FACTS!
@johnviera3884
@johnviera3884 Ай бұрын
EDM and hip hop But if you go through the Spotify top 50 Pro Tools and Logic
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
I kind of view things differently. I pay attention to my favourite productions and producers and look at what they use 👌.
@johnviera3884
@johnviera3884 Ай бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott that’s where my boys at
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
👌
@ericgcastile
@ericgcastile 26 күн бұрын
I have no problem in the browser in logic, I just hit the down/up arrow and immediately hear the the sound.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 26 күн бұрын
Many people having same issue as me and have done for last decade. So there must be a bug they haven’t fixed in over a decade. Cause everyone I know has the delay. Especially when running sounds of an external Hardrive (which no other DAW has an issue doing) 🥲
@urbanman1516
@urbanman1516 Ай бұрын
People like to say that they prefer Ableton because it has better workflow, better creative plugins, better browser etc. But I don't believe it's any of those reasons why people enjoy it so much. There is something almost magical about Ableton or perhaps how the audio engine processes sound and timing. You can suck at making music and somehow, no matter what you throw at Ableton, the results are musically convincing. In some way, the melodies sound better, the beats groove almost effortlessly. Imo, It's the most forgiving DAW for those who lack musical talent. After many years of using both logic and Ableton, I cannot figure out what it is. In logic, you gotta work much harder to get something going that sounds good. I'm a happy logic user, but if I ever wanted to impress someone with a quick beat, I'd most definitely fire up Ableton. German voodoo.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
This is exactly it. I feel like I’ve found the DaW I was always meant to use because it just CLICKS with me. For the first time I’m not fighting my brain. I’m just having this seamless flow of my brain to my arm to my daw to my speakers ❤️🙌
@Tapper1969
@Tapper1969 Ай бұрын
Thanks for your post. I posted a similar comment a few weeks ago and I got the usual replies that all DAWs sound the same (null tests prove it, blah blah blah). If I finish a song in Logic and post it to social media or wherever then 9/10 it will sound inferior in some way. If I do the same with Ableton then it just sounds better, almost professional, yet I've gone through exactly the same process. Logic is a hard DAW to work with in my opinion. I'm convinced it has something to do with transients. Logic seems to hide them where as Ableton makes them stand out from the get go.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
I can say that the inbuilt quality of ableton stock plugs ins and general Creative use cases are way stronger than logics. If I was to mix a track exclusively with stock plug ins I think I’d be happier with my ableton results except for reverb because Space designer is so GOATED!
@CommadBeats
@CommadBeats Ай бұрын
Ableton is like Iphone, charismatic, nothing else. The UI in Ableton is not ugly imo.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
@@CommadBeatshay so I actually disagree. I’ve used studio one. Ableton. Logic. Fl studio and Pro and there are DEFINITELY things that each of them cannot do 😅
@dinismateus5811
@dinismateus5811 15 күн бұрын
Live looping is also amazing in ableton, give it a try!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 14 күн бұрын
I don’t know how to do it yet. But I keep hearing about it!
@irawardofficial
@irawardofficial 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing bro !! Spot on analysis... I downloaded the trial and was blow away just by the way the algorithms sounded. I like the simplicity of Logic Pro sounds but it sounds weird and honky and to make matters worse, it sounds more weird the longer you work and your groove dies the time you are ready to master your track. Logic Pro 11 is better but it still has bugs in CoreAudio. In all fairness, I am still on intel... Maybe they have fixed the issues with the M chip architect... I am going to spend some time learning Live and other DAW's, I am done with Logic LOL. I hear that Studio One and Cubase smoke Logic Pro, have you tried them?
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 15 күн бұрын
Yes studio one smokes logic. I original left logic for studio one but came back because studio one was going through a really buggy phase and I had a ton of important projects I was working on that were time sensitive. But studio one is awesome, they just having some big issues since the Apple updates. It was way more stable on Intel. But I’m loving Abelton. I can see that studio one stole a lot of cool things from Abelton so naturally I get along with it.
@irawardofficial
@irawardofficial 15 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott Thanks for the insight bruh !! By the way, the beat you did in Live 12 was on and poppin' LOL. I have Studio One 4, I might just give it a run but I just downloaded Live 12 and I think it's a rap :).
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 14 күн бұрын
Ahh thankyou for the beat compliment 🙌. I think you’ll really live LIVE 12
@irawardofficial
@irawardofficial 14 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott Yes sir👌👍
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 14 күн бұрын
💪
@iamvelour
@iamvelour Ай бұрын
id love to see what you think about mixing in Luna vs logic. Luna sounds so good and just feels so much better for mixing imo.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Oofff maybe logic gets taken out by LUNA. Cause I own 90% of UaD plugins and own Luna haha
@iamvelour
@iamvelour Ай бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott lol. I still love and use logic but some of the things it does and doesn't do are inexcusable to me at this point especially it being an apple developed program. LP11 for me is very disappointing as a big number upgrade. I was expecting big quality of life enhancements. It's a beautifully looking program but under the hood it seems so archaic. Logic may need to be rebuilt from the ground up the same way FCPX was 🤷🏾‍♂
@Barney-ii1no
@Barney-ii1no Ай бұрын
will take a few years for Luna to get on par
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
Logic 11 was not a full upgrade. I agree. It was an incremental one not a full number upgrade!
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott Ай бұрын
My main gripe with Luna is no custom shortcuts.
@TheRhyne91
@TheRhyne91 16 күн бұрын
Hell yea I watch if you make Ableton vids
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 16 күн бұрын
They are coming!
@deyvidpetromusic
@deyvidpetromusic 11 күн бұрын
I am on Studio One but have been considering Ableton for a little as Studio One has grown a touch stale... Would you recommend Ableton over Studi One?
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 11 күн бұрын
It really depends on what features you value and if you’re mainly creating music or engineering music?
@deyvidpetromusic
@deyvidpetromusic 11 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott fully creating music. I am gaining a hunger for love looping and more live work and Studio One whilst it supports Live performances it isn't great.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 11 күн бұрын
Ahh I honestly think you will really love it then. And if you don’t then you always have studio one. Try the 30 day ableton demo. Fully functioning for free. That’s what I did!
@deyvidpetromusic
@deyvidpetromusic 11 күн бұрын
@@WhoIsAlexElliott cool thanks man. I really like your channel by the way. I just stumbled across it this afternoon. I really liked the strings tutorial. I work a lot with strings so this was quite helpful, thank you.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 11 күн бұрын
Ah I’m glad. And thankyou. Please share it with anyone who you think would find it helpful also!
@jpp4ever
@jpp4ever 12 күн бұрын
I just couldn't agree more with the things you say about Logic.
@WhoIsAlexElliott
@WhoIsAlexElliott 12 күн бұрын
Likeminded individual’s 👌 I do want logic to do better
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