I love the moment when Dallas says "It's Payday Time" and stole the servers

Good job making this video as a starbreeze partner yourself. Seen other starbreeze partners sugarcoat the situation and I can appreciate that you didn't do that. You've earned my subscription

Everything you said is 100% correct, even though it hurts. Thanks for being a real fan who’s not afraid criticize, but still support. ❤

It really is sad that the Payday community feel more saddened from the launch that it has led to anger from otherwise the goofiest and chillest of gamers.

Someone make a meme where instead of LTG saying “KYS NOW” it’s lilguy saying “ADD AN OFFLINE MODE, NOW”

This gameplay is amazing but it breaks my heart to see the matchmaking being shit and I’ve had 4000+ hours on payday2 and it hurts seeing what they have done to such an amazing sequel, im proud that someone can call them out and explain how they really feel, respect 👊

starbreeze looking for the killing your community's hype speedrun any% world record

I'm gonna guess the always online thing wasn't the fault of Starbreeze, but Deep Silver/Plaion

it still shocks me that not only did starbreeze ignore the community when we told them up front online only is a bad idea, they also went to deep silver to publish the game well after saints row. just sucks that two very stupid decisions are likely going to kill this great game off while its still in its infancy.

@LilGuyG my brother and fellow payday veteran. I cannot express how right you are on this...... Ever since October 18, 2011, as a kid I always came home ready to forget sad realities and Heist with my best friends. I found more friends through the Payday 2 community and have lived my life based on the belief that when I come home from school or work I can sit down lock in and have my night revived with my friends and payday has given me that. So to see this happening to the game that not just I but all of us have waited so many years for with my friends whom I consider brothers to this day is heartbreaking. I hope Starbreeze sees this because they must. Thank you LilguyG for speaking louder for us. we need it.

I would usually defend starbreeze and overkill with my life but I just can’t anymore. the servers are too much of a problem to be ignored for weeks days hours and minutes, we need a offline mode right this second and we will see this game succeed. 👊😎

I paid for the pre-order gold edition (~$90). I got it cause I got into Payday 2 in Middle school and played it all throughout high school. I would watch videos about past Payday 2 events and how excited people were when this stuff was happening. When I heard Payday 3 was coming I got excited because I had an opportunity to watch the game grow and be a part of it from the beginning. I got the game 3 days early and every day I'd get home from work and play the hell out of that game. It was so much fun. Played it with my other Early Access mates and we had a blast. September 21st came around and I was hyped. I kept thinking about how fast I would be able to hop into hiests because of the huge boost of players. Well turns out I couldn't even play the game. I shrugged it off and thought "oh ha ha lol guess the games really popular, so popular the servers couldn't handle it!". Day 2 came around and the servers were still having issues and then I thought "woo wee it's been a whole 24 hours and servers are still messed up...they'll 100% have it fixed by tomorrow". We're now going into Day 4 of issues. I have a game that I paid extra for because of the love I had for Overkill and the Payday series. I get home from work praying I can get into AT LEAST 1 game. It's a really good game, one that I really want to grind on but it's getting hard to open a game, hitting matchmaking and seeing "Matchmaking error" over and over again. And the only thing I'm seeing from Payday 3 is Twitter man going through loops of "Issue -> working on it -> issue -> we think its better -> issue".

At this point in time with so many awful launch days for so many games, we just have to make "never pre-order games" a rule in gaming

The moment heister said "it's robbing time". Didn't think they stole the servers.

I was so lucky I got to play just as the servers got fixed. An I agree it is a great game but Holy hell my heart goes out to the poor console fellas who got the higher costing versions. I pray PRAY that they don't abandoned the console version like the previous title.

I completely agree with this video. I gave it a negative review on steam even tho I wanted to give a good review but couldn't with how unplayable it mainly is. The gameplay itself is fun and great! But with not being able to connect and actually play besides 1 heist a day problaby and sometimes not even is not cool. We need offline, we need voice chat in game like it's a co-op I mean come on, we need being able to chat with randos on the main screen so we can plan what we are doing, and again we just need a playable game. One more thing some nicer outfits would be cool...

Everything you said is 100 percent true. I can’t even begin to describe how frustrated I am at this moment with the game. I preordered payday 3 on ps5 to play since I’m currently on deployment, I have a home PC that’s not brought with me on trips. I literally cannot play the game that I spent 90 dollars on, no audio for cutscenes, no cosmetic dlc that I was supposed to get with the gold edition, broken matchmaking. They need to add an offline mode. This would fix nearly all the issues with the game currently.

And this is also disregarding the fact that the fanbase helped Overkill keep the lights on after Overkill's The Walking Dead flopped, by buying the newer DLC for Payday 2 (Border Crossing and onwards). The fans were what made Payday 3, and you can tell the devs really appriciated the support that they gave it their all with this new installment. And it really does hurt to see that they didn't even listen months ago about an offline mode, it should've been a given at that point. Here's hoping that we do get an update soon for an offline mode because this will relieve stress off of the devs when they finally find the issue that causing it, but also improve their servers, maybe a few small quality of life changes with matchmaking in general. Because if they don't, instead of OTWD being their final game, it'll be Payday 3. And that would really hurt, not just the fans, but also the devs who spent years learning server different game engines and spending years learning Unreal Engine 4 & 5, just for their hard work that was leading up to this moment, will be for nothing.

I couldn’t have said it better.

I literally started crying 😭

Really one bad decision fucked up everything, damn

Goodjob calling out bs from a studio WE TRUSTED,keep up the good videos and never let any more bs from them flu

And While adding the offline mode, Add the Paycheck gang.

The mistake that people make is assuming that this is the same Starbreeze that made Payday 2. After the collapse, not that many of the people who worked on Payday 2 are still there.

Big ups for not sugarcoating this. Everything's spot on, mate!

as a swedish person... i can confirm i ate the servers.

big ups and thanks for saying what most of us probably think but couldn't put in to words or phrase properly!

I have to agree. As much as I do think the game even with all its gameplay and content shortcomings. I am hopeful for this game. however, if the servers remain, and we don't get an offline mode, then I fear that this game will be abandoned, and it will end up like so many live service titles do. abandoned within a year, and a studio shut down. I want to play this game, I want to be apart of the community, to help build up the speedrunning community, yet we cant play, and its all down to a dumb decision that was probably made by the ceo who sees offline as a maybe now instead of the obvious solution

Its not too late, they can still fix it!

It's not about fans being toxic (some certainly are pointing their fingers in the wrong direction) but they're passionate. Having dropped about 20 hrs into the game, I love PD3 so much that I refuse to revert back to 2. I just want to play the game and play with my friends.

Heartbreaking to hear stuff like this from people as passionate as you, it truly is so sad how the launch has probably sullied the franchise for years to come I just hope that they will turn this around and we can all go on to enjoying the game for what it is, because the game itself is a lot of fun

Thank you so much for addressing the situation this way. I love this game and luckily just completed the no rest for the wicked heist today, it’s so fun and so challenging, but the amount of times I’ve gotten the matchmaking error screen is getting so irritating. I was so hype but now my faith begins to falter, as starbreeze dangles an offline mode over our heads like a carrot on a string, this needs to change.

I expected this video to be a few seconds of you saying "Dear Starbreeze, fix your servers" And ends abruptly

no way Buckethead simulator

I love the game and everything, the only issue is are the servers couldn't have said it better myself lilguy.

I love all of your points and think that some people saying “it only has 8 heists” like payday 2 only had like 10 at launch and people cant seem to get that it will get better

Me and my close friends (and hubby) been planning to take 3 day off when this game launch only me and hubby bought the pre order (yeah it was fun) we tho the match making error was only in beta, man we were so wrong when the game actually launched and we all get together and play, we just ended up starring at the menu and error screen for 8 hour straight We love payday, we been supporting it since 2013 and to think this is what it became, we all agreed payday 3 just lost 4 of their loyal fan

Thank you for speaking for alot of us

I'm gonna be honest, I think most of the problems stem from Deep Silver and Plaion. Of course we won't know for sure until SBZ buys back the rights to PD3 in a year or so, but mark my words. These two horrid companies got their hands in the pie.

It is weird and sad seeing lilguyg angry. I hope starbreeze listens to the community and fixes the game overkill worked so hard on.

Wow, you said everything I wanted better than I ever could.

Im sure the devs put a lot into it, but even without the matchmaking problems, i still dont think the game is worth it. Xp being tied to challenges, leveling up your gun to get attachments, small number of heists, few playable characters. There are some improvements, but you still have to give me a reason to play this game over the vastly supervisor second game.

It rathe funny but another part of the problem is pre order, but for Payday 3 it was how those with early access played before the severs collapsed under the weight of people wanting to heart. Even on launch day the severs were holding for a bit… till major populations started to login. The people with early access and preorders were given a more stable and functioning service. Only helping creat a false narrative that they were hucking and shilling a bad product.

day 4, give it up for day 4

Tis the perfect summary of the situation, you can feel how this is a love project that had it's hype EXCECUTED because of its launch, ofc it'll recover in a day or two but the train has been de-railed and it's just sad. That perfectly sums up the entire situation, just sad. I haven't played it and yet i can already feel how much better it already is than Payday 2, my gut feeling has never been wrong, ever, i have a good eye for quality stuff or lack their off and this feels way better than Payday 2, even L4D2 for me. The reviews will stay after everything has been fixed, so will the mixed feelings about the first impressions, it's just sad when the solution was so simple even. I don't trust any company to do what's right but i had faith that they were knowledgeable enough to understand that no offline is a death sentence, have you not seen Back 4 Blood? This and many other games are failures on so many different aspects....it's actually impressive tbh, but Payday 3 from what i've seen only has upsides...except this 1 thing, god damnit...ruined, the damage has been done, who knows *_when_* offline will come to the game even

I agree 100%, I love the gameplay so much, it’s everything I hoped it would be, and just like you I’ve never been more hyped for a game release in my life. It’s so sad that such beautiful gameplay is being soiled by greedy corporate cunts, you think these “businessmen” would learn, but no.

Working servers would be enough but voice chat is a must that they have to add A.S.A.P.

Great video, Apparently Starbreeze and the CEO adressed the issue, they said that they are fixing the matchmaking error, but idk if they are going to add an offline mode. Sad

There are more people playing Payday 2 than Payday 3 as of right now while I look at steam charts.

Payday 3 is fun but got a lot of issues. However at this point we might aswell expect that "always online" games will always fuck up on launch.

same still playing PD2 I bought the 100 euro version because I trusted these guys ... 16 hours ingame maybe 12 played and 4 connection errors even when trying to play solo. not to mention getting disconnected at the end of the game even when playing solo. and as salt in the wound the cloakers saying "why don't you go completely offline?" i wish that I could cloaker ,, oh lord i wish that i could.

its a shame that we cant just have fun games anymore, there is always a catch.

Preach brotha 🙏

I don't remember PD2 launch, but seeing you guys put this theme on background seems like it way better than PD3 launch.

yeah you really said it perfectly man

Respect

I woke up early today (10 AM GMT-3) to play, with and without disabling crossplay, still can't find anybody or I get a matchmaking error

They don’t care…. Vote with your valet! Then, they might give a damn.

who could've seen this coming with an online only game

Well said.

what if the real payday were the preorders we made along the way

I love this game man, it's been a blast... but it doesn't work, i too want this game to succeed, it has an incredible foundation...

The reason why this happened is because the suits who make the budget decisions were so out of touch with the community. They did not anticipate this many people would play solo, and since each solo player takes up one full game lobby that’s why the servers can’t handle it. More people are playing invite only then they expected, but they would have known this if they LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY! People were asking for an offline mode before the game even released, we feared this would happen and were vocal about it, yet it happened anyways because clearly the folks in charge are THAT out of touch. Sad to see that yet again, for the perhaps millionth time in the gaming scene; a company misstepped because they ignored warnings from their consumers. When will these greedy higher ups learn? They stand to lose millions because of their penny pinching, and because of that the future content will likely increase in price to compensate. It’s so insanely tragic.that such a beautiful game is getting soiled by shitty budgeting

Boy am i glad i did'd spend money on this game.

When it boils down to it, they are now knowingly selling a product that does not effectively function. It's disgusting.

I support this message

They fixed the matchmaking errors

The lack of no proper "Offline Mode" is why I stopped playing day one and will unlikely play again until it's added, at least I won't play the same way as I played PayDay 2 which at one point was the only game I would play all day for weeks.

Not only does the future to the game look rather grim, but also the entire studio and everyone working over there. Payday 3 will heal. It's such an awesome game and I truly believe things will change. But that's only because I think these people can do good decisions. Now it's their time to prove it.

I'm on ps5 and I haven't been able to get past the title screen. I pre ordered the normal game so it's been 5 days of this ongoing

If you buy a game that requires you to connect to the internet at all times and sign up to a third party website in order to play the game, you don't actually own the game. You're just leasing times with it until it goes offline sometime in the future. Food for thought.

❤

I can't even play with friend since none can invite me at all

It especially sucks because I spent 90 bucks on the game(I'm on ps5) so I didn't even get to play for the 3 days early but then I cant even play during launch, I'm not mad I'm just disappointed even so I still won't refund the game because I still believe.

BE HONEST guys...would it be different if the always online is still present BUT matchmaking is normal and have no problems would the community react the same? Would they still ask for offline? Am serious here. Are there examples of always online game still being successful?

100% Facts

While i agree with you I feel like alot of the fingers are being pointed at the wrong people it is deep silver who has forced this upon payday 3 as they did with so many of their newer releases such as dead island 2 it is greedy publishers not the devs that get to make these calls.

coming from someone who wants this game to improve and sees the potential, i cant boot lick anymore. they need to fix the servers and add an offline mode. or hell add lan support because this shit is sad, depressingly sad

Hear, hear.

ive never played a payday game before, the hype around pd3 still got me. but this is the reason noone should ever preorder games, this is the reason i try to not play always online games, this is the reason i hate always online games. if they took the time and money to set up servers properly they could have been a great example on how a release should be done, now its just at the top of the giant pile of shit releases and will NEVER make it up

i really don't know why the f*** they change things that have always been in the saga and the community knew and liked for years.

This guy is about to go through a joker arc that's going to be as dark as Tyler McVicker towards valve if they don't do something about this, and they probably won't because it's not the passionate developers who made that decision to not include offline (at least they and others have a say in the matter, so it's still possible they will)

They could have mitigated these issues by having an open beta where they could have assessed the actual load the servers would be under. Obviously it's not the same as a full game release, where you tend to get most of the incoming traffic, but still - it doesn't help that a lot of players had to deal with server issues. Speaking from personal experience, these things are difficult. Starbreeze isn't a studio that has as much power behind it as others. I think it's more the fault of the third party studio doing the matchmaking.

PADAY 3 run on AccelByte server. PAYDAY 3 don't have their own infrastructures and depend on a sevice that can't handle as much player Community manager said to us the tech team work on it but the tech team just wait that AccelByte fix their server PAYDAY 3 need to hire new network/admin system and work on their own infrastructures instead of told us they working on nothing to fix the issue

Not only offline mode, the entire progression system needs a rework, it's utter crap.

First time nyc’s crime rate has been 0%

I'm a Payday 2 veteran(over 1400 hours played since 2013), and i was genuinely interested in buying and playing PD3, since it's not a full-price release and i had fun in the game's beta. But i can't bring myself to spend my money on the game with all of those server issues. And damn, i knew that this "always online" stuff would not be great for the game. I really hope that the decision to make Payday 3 like this came from the publisher and not Starbreeze themselves, like i've seen some people suggest.

👊😎

Shared the video on their most recent tweet, you need to be heard

I think Starbreeze shouldn't be involved with any publisher company that has released what would have been a good game but was tainted by the publisher's greed if it was up to Starbreeze most likely there would have been an offline mode added and this comes from someone that watched his favorite franchise get basically buried again after trying to bring it back to life. An amazing development company like Starbreeze should listen to the fans, not the publishers

Ngl convincing my friends to actually play this game when it launches was like pulling teeth and with these constant matchmaking errors is definitely not helping me trying to get them give this game a chance

Still hard to get into any match at the moment

ROCKSTAR Games 2.0

i can make my gun look like a nerf gun

I want to blame the community manager Elizabeth, she has been very vaque answering requests from the community, and serves nothing more but a discord moderator. No passion comes from her, she barely tweets, barely uses steam, no social media. She is not involved with the community at all, how can she communicate to the devs if she doesn't know what the Payday community wants

CUSTOMERS!!!!!

I've seen already 2 videos on the topic of PD 3 not having a propper offline mode, but imo that's not the only thing the devs need to address, as example the dependency on the central server as a whole, as funny as this may sound but P2P is much better in this regard well since if the central server is down for some reason I AT LEAST could play with my friends, it would be laggy of course but that would be possible, and that does not include the small problems like inability to cancel being ready in the main menu, or cloakers who don't see AI at all and do not react to it in the slightest and therefore B lining to the nearest player even if that means that the player is whole bank floor away, AI not shooting back when they are downed , and this just boggles my mind how the hell Starbreeze managed to screw up in the simplest things even after 3-4 beta tests and don't tell me that those were to test servers, didn't work aight?

A month in and still no updates. It sucks to be a payday fan rn

I feel like even if the servers work perfectly, the gameplay and ui are so bad that I'm not giving it another go for at least a year or 2. Payday 2 is a far superior game.

Whens the next presidents episode