@OTTO OCTAVIOUS erm, have you forgotten you couldn't have a consultation with mo' for free? You seem to have or are just tragically uninformed 🤦

@OTTO OCTAVIOUS Just as a heads up, sometimes KZfaq deletes comments. The algorithm does.

@@mrfreeze2446❤❤❤

I think both sides have very strong points. I’m pretty well convince by Jay that Petra was the original “Place of the Prophet”, but while I can imagine many strange and embarrassing stories evolving around the name “Mohammed” over the course of 200 years, at the same time I find it hard to believe the Arabs could bring themselves to believe in the stories of Mohammed unless there was sone historical figure at the core of the legends. What I mean is that Arab story tellers might look at the inscriptions of the word Mohammed and make up some stories about him. In fact the tales of the wars between his successors and the demonic possessions are exactly the sort of harrowing tales the Arab poets might make up. But they would not become confused and imagine these stories actually took place, nor would they be likely to convince anyone of they tried that such stories were true. That is unless they could produce actual witnesses. And of course they do produce witnesses. The question then is, how reliable is witness testimony when used to construct a biography about a man who does 200 years ago? Imagine we tried today to construct a biography of George Washington by oral tradition. It’s a joke. Yet no one would take that biography seriously unless someone named George Washington had led the Continental Army. You can certainly construct a legend around a core like that, but not a reliable history. The criterion of embarrassment I find ridiculous. These are the sort of antics Arabs of the time would want to hear. But of course it may be that certain embarrassing details about the actual figure were remembered. Or sone of those stories may have been invented by individual storytellers to accomadate their own temperaments or to scandalize the audience, perhaps to demonstrate thier own intimate knowledge of the figure. Over all I think there must have been someone who took on the role of warrior prophet of the Arabs and United them against the Persians and Romans. However I suppose He may not have lived in a city at all.

​@@Agaporis12listen to the debate I was really struck by a comparison of the traditional Islamic narrative and the development of the Arthuriad.

Pretty much a win win situation here

Win for Christianity

Lol They’re both hardcore debaters. Knowing David I think he enjoyed the fight. Winning would have simply been icing on the cake.

Yeah he is a diagnosed psychopath you really can't get him to feel bad

You can't lose a debate, that then would be an argument to lose it lol

Its because this way they can bash Mohammed together.

@Lilia murah I do not believe in any religion. This guy you watch is heavily biased towards Christianity, he mocks Islam but he doesn't have enough brains to know or accept that what he follows isn't true too.

Because they can't take it against an Islamic debator. So they go each other and in the end none will lost 🤣🤣🤣

@@ash.toronto31 because this is how he earns money. this guy is just a businessman, a really dumb pathetic one!

@Rayrad 696 I can't understand how Jesus is like moses?moses was born with mother n father Jesus had only mother n not father,moses had wife,Jesus was not but a bachelor or single no wife.Ezekiel 18:20New Living Translation The person who sins is the one who will die. The child will not be punished for the parent’s sins, and the parent will not be punished for the child’s sins. Righteous people will be rewarded for their own righteous behavior, and wicked people will be punished for their own wickedness.how comes we will take sins of our father Adam did n God said to Ezekiel 18:20 everyone will take is sins or die unless you repent Christians read that verse its clear n stop your ignorant,its like you said your child commit a murder n you parent will take it,why I haven't seen you applying in today courts replacing yourself to court to the crime your child commit or vice vicer n yet you want Jesus to carry your murder,rape,theft,prostitute

imagines waking up from dead realizing jesus is not god

@@TheFarouk73 lol

@@TheFarouk73 wait i have to die for this?

​@@TheFarouk73😂 Thats not Happening. You hear thousands of life changing testimonies about Jesus. Miracle after Miracle even today 👍

😂😂😂

Me either! That would be awesome!

Education is great

Dr Wood please back up Jay's theory

I will be the first buyer too

But check the book of Robert Spencer "Did Muhammad exist"

That rap was cringy to hear lol Harmless fun but cringy

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It never is.... when facts and hard evidence is at play islam is the most unlogical thing that ever happend to this world.

123 456 how can he refute david wood when david wood always shows you the islamic sources?? There is no refuting, so the only logical conclusion left is full metal head most be LYING

@@God1stProductions You missed the point: these "sources" are all hundreds of years after what happened. There are no contemporary sources. This includes the lack of any mention of Mecca on any trade maps. No coins. No rock inscriptions. Mosques pointing to Petra or Jerusalem. This is all good evidence that Mohammad is a later creation or combination of stories used more for political consolidation than religious truth.

@@user-zu3ql4nc1n you broke the cardinal rule, you did not define the term 'lies'.

@K C how do you know that's the devil unseen is whispering to anybody?

@K C seriously K C , you seek refuge in allah from an evil creation of allah?

@K C I have a question for you K C. Who is the unknown author?

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@@123zj2 how do they lie?

I dont think so

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Jay knows more about India.. I think he grew up there knowing the beautiful custom, cultures and traditions especially the history.. I can't recall if he is born there...

@@9999rosebud Yes I knew it Ms. Mary he was born in Mussoorie located the northern province state in India. That's a famous hill station in the foothills of Himalaya Mountain.. I'm following all his lectures and various discussions since 4-5 yrs.

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Given that they are two knowledgeable Christians, I don't think this should have been structured as a debate.

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@Mahmood Ali See David Wood speaking out against the violence and hate in islam.. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7pmeM6Eq97QqWw.html He should be paid by you for putting his and his family in jeopardy to show muslims the real islam. Islam is false and Jesus Christ is Lord

@Allashka You are not here to learn ,honestly you are here to applaud blindly to your fans smith and woods , they are your ideal liars , because in christianity the one who uses or lies to people , who lies to them the longest periode of time are the ones who are followed and adored by christians , because they are grown up in lies ...and they suckeled a long time from falsehood. through canonizing many pages which were not even devine scriptures to be among the bibles and through omittting original pages and passage from the bible supposed to be a part of it ....

In Islam there is not such thing like canonizing texts or parts of texts to be part of the kuran , thats called lying about Goddddddddddd. !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Muhammad Hijab is watching..

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By the time David got to his rebuttal and makes his snide joke about 'conspiracy theorists' he'd already lost. He was up against a mountain of hard evidence pointing to an alternative conclusion than that of Muhammad being historically reliable; the types of arguments David made in his opening are typical of supporting arguments, ancillary and tertiary, while Jay is making strong primary arguments from evidence, so much evidence, in fact, that it's embarrassing to see Wood have to come back to the podium at all, especially with nothing more than an ad hominem attack. He should've conceded then and there. But instead he doubled down. That's kind of shameful. Really. At least address the points and bring some new arguments. Plus, claiming you have sources because they are cited in a work when all you have are the citations and not the sources is disingenuous. That's not good scholarship. Especially when Islam teaches Taqiyya, promoting deception in some scenarios. That's why scholarship is important. Christians would never get away with that, claiming sources without providing the actual sources. But this just goes to show how strong the case for Christianity is, given the primary sources all date back to 30-60 years and potentially earlier, plus a number of secondary sources as well.

David Wood gives the "principle of embarrassment" a whole new spin😂😂😂

@@Adam_A_Christian David Wood is like a seasoned traditional politician arguing without presenting hard evidence. Therefore, he Lost.

That’s where I landed too . Sounds like they were passing down orally for a little until they got an empire big enough and tried to legitimize this unifying character they have heard stories about

I was thinking the same. It makes sense that this man did exist but the Qu’ran had a different history…and they were conflated

That's also what I think

Those who do not believe, it is in vain even if I bring angels before their eyes, just as the past peoples did not believe. It is not a matter of facts, because they are abundant, but of the heart, which may be healthy or sick and does not accept the truth.

What you think is irrelevant, where is the evidence that Muhammad existed? David Wood presented no evidence whatsover. The principle of embarrassment is a joke, is that meant to be evidence? Dr Jay Smith presented hard evidence that David could not refute. Imo David's debating position was an embarrassment.

Surely social media and technology has exposed them and 50 years time they will be relegated and the world will be at peace.

Unfortunately, fake prophet argument does not work because islamic position is that, if Mohammed did it, it must be correct thing to do. There is no embarrassment in his actions, no matter what they are.

1st He was sent to the Lost to guide them to God & Fail as they turn against him 2nd He never want to Die & that why He spent the Night BEGGING HIS DADDY TO SAVE HIM 3rd i Use Fairy to wash my Dirty Cloth & i do not need a Cursed god in human flesh to wash anything 4 me

@@islamdefenderyahya4621 At least his daddy took him to heaven, and poor Muhammad was cursing the Jews when he was poisoned, and Allah was sleeping soundly when he was groaning in agony that his aorta has been slit.

@@islamdefenderyahya4621 who killed Muhammad?

@@edmond2000 i dnt Remember will u Reind me ? as i Know he was 63 yrs old & he was a Mortal human

David Wood could have done better by quoting all the hadith sources.

@@CaptainChristianZ1818 No, David Wood needs to expand beyond the hadiths/suras. He needs some archaeology or coins or external non-Moslem written sources like Jay P and Robert Spencer and now many other scholars are doing to suggest the Mecca/Mohamed story is all fabricated.

@@20july1944 I am leaning more towards Dr Jay Smith's presentation on historical facts with evidence and indeed agree on your comment. Either way, very damning for Islam. If it is fabricated and this muhammad guy never existed, basically islam has no foundation whatsoever.

@@CaptainChristianZ1818 Yes, I'm essentially convinced of that now. Mohamed might be based primarily on some one person who probably lived in Petra, but other events were added from other biographies or made up.

@@CaptainChristianZ1818 I think in Jay's interview with Hatun Tash posted today (11/19/2020) he quotes Dan Gibson as saying the only archaeological evidence found in recent construction at Mecca was a 13th century Ottoman fort. I guess they built it there because it had been designated the original "Mecca" since there's no other reason to put a fort there, away from the coast and not near any trade routes.

This is about the two - not any one of them.

Happy David was debating it though. Two very good adversaries in this field. The debate is to hopefully lead us closer to the truth.

Then you must not have heard many muslims 🤣🤣🤣 these two are airheads 🤣 don’t know anything.

Nope

Lol that’s like 2 muslims debating on the trinity. This debate makes no sense 😂

They both know more about Islam than any Muslim on Earth. Muslims are galacticly ignorant about what the Quran and the Hadith actually say.

I’ve never met a Muslim that knew a fraction of what Jay Smith knows through actual research. Not one Muslim and I’ve met MANY. 🤦🏿‍♀️

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@@user-zu3ql4nc1n we are looking historical correctness not from Bible,Tora or Qu'ran says.

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Yeah because compare it to every other "religion" & use deductive reasoning...by far Christianity is the only religion that makes many sense down to the brass tacks God will not be mocked so mock Him...while you still can lol

Doesn't matter really, they both prove Islam is false and dangerous. And THAT'S the most important. We're talking millions of people going to hell because they do not know the way to salvation which is the narrow path through Jesus! ✝️❤️

@@eternalpromise1383 For me truth matters. We can’t build or dwell on the lie! That’s glorifying the false history.

@@hidden.history of course truth matters bro. We're talking millions of souls condemned to hell without knowing how blindly they are led by Mo down in hell with him. I mentioned that it doesn't matter who of these two won over the arguments. As long as they both can prove their points so we can finally uncover this Islam lie, I m more than OK with it. Because we know now. Either the Arabs or the Jews are hiding a significant piece of history. ✝️❤️

add to that the personal stake factor. If he agree with Jay, it means he will have to burn his Ph.D. and flash its ashes in a toilet. It also means, no book selling, no conference booking, etc. This new notion that Muhammad is a myth is a financial devastation for DW. It's understandable why fights it with tooth and nail.

Jay smith has a good approach which most are authentic and documented, But Jay peaks as if he is talking to himself . He has to remember that He Must Speak to the Audience, So he needs to speak much slower and must summarise and emphasise on important points which his not doing at all.If it takes he must skip the trivial point so that one can emphasise on the important points. He should remember that he is addressing the lay public and not presenting a PhD Thesis , Therefore Jay needs to try to concentrate on us -the lay public and we do not have time to study all the data he put on the white board. It was great work but diluted in the way he gave he presentation.

Don't miss the point here bro. The target here is Islam. How false and dangerous it is. Both they skinned it raw! They did great!! ✝️❤️

yeah, speaking as somebody who trained in archaeology, my reaction to a lot of what David said was "he's out of his field of expertise." He failed to understand the significance of archaeological and historical research, and why as a historian Jay was saying there's a serious problem here. And it really is a serious problem. DW was also speculating wildly to fill in the gaps with his own imagination. That's not acceptable to put forward as a point in an academic debate, anybody can imagine a reason why something might happen, but if you want to say that's what happened you have to have evidence that it did to put forward. He also would also not have excused such a huge gap between the events and the written record if it had been Christianity under scrutiny here. The gap between the Islamic founding 'events' and our earliest record of them is so large that no credible historian would accept the narrative at face value for any other culture in the world. I know that some Islamicists do accept it, but they appear to do so out of fear, rather than because it's scholastically credible to do so.

@Mr. Rich B.O.B I saw it on David's channel... yesterday.

@Mr. Rich B.O.B Thats alright! Cheers! 😊

nice information bro, I agree with you

@@francisaltitude9763 Thanks! 😊

@@Bei-Abedan Hmm... (if I am not mistaken and correct me if I am making a mistake) the Islamic narratives (hadiths) state that Abbassids are from Khorasan (central asia - starting from Afghanistan and stretching all the way to Uzbekistan). They started off as looters (& raiders) of caravans. Ummayyads must have been from Syria because their capital was in Damascus and qiblas were directed towards Petra in their reign. And Quran uses Syrian Aramiac language. And the Quraish thingy is tricky because the meaning of the word 'quraish' itself seems to be evolving. The earliest meaning of 'Quraish' seems to be related to King Cyrus (and applied on Iranians & Iraqis by Jews). But, it was adapted & changed by others over time. Chinese chronicles seem to notice this that the Quraish thingy was introduced into royal chronicles (Mohammed's family) by the Abbassids.

@Morgh123 Yes & It would have been nice , if they invited Dan Gibson to this debate too.

@@hrishika1 Dan Gibson is good on debunking Mecca of Hejaz & disclosing the impirtance of Petra during the early formation of Mahgraye (later called Islam) , but he (Gibson) is too dependant upon Ibn Hisham's work and has no doubtful thinking of its historicity.

Or NEVER EXISTED AT ALL!

@@rampfox LIKE JESUS 😂

​@@جندلHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA jesus did exist. Unlike momo look at the historical data before embarrassing yourself

Nothing to be sorry about

I don't think someone is schooled out there, they are both correct.the attributes David gave are all given to a false prophet,and jay smith proves that this very prophet has not exist in the first place.

@@nasiremreey2038 Exactly, I believe this is also the reason they don't depict Mo's face anywhere. Because no one has ever seen him and so artists couldn't just draw just a face because every artist would draw a different face. I do believe he never existed as a prophet and that Arabs came up with such a plot. David though has analysed the religious side of Mo. Muhammad is a title. Not his real name. I do believe in a Muhammad killer/conqueror but NEVER a prophet. The dude knew nothing of the laws of the Torah. 🤪🙄

@Lilia murah What's exactly your point here? The most of what you have described comes from the Catholics as we know them to be after the Great Schism. Nothing good comes of them Mary worshippers and of satanic Pope lovers. The only real Catholic and Apostolic Church is the Orthodox Church where it all began. Church is not a building. It's the coming together of people in the name of Jesus. A church is the humans. A group of people. Also where on earth have you seen Yahshuas dead body under the earth? Jesus died but was never buried underground. His body is not buried but lifted in Heavens next to the One who sits on the throne. Also what about the Pokemon fish joke? You are a fool I think. Ιχθύς does mean fish in ancient Greek but it represents a complete different thing. Ιησούς Χριστός Θεού Υιός Σωτήρ. Also Jesus never looked like how the Catholics draw him to be. The Byzantine drawings may be more actual. Research and read history. Not everyone who mentions the name of Jesus, KNOWS Jesus. ✝️❤️

Yep. 😀

Their field of work ensures tough skin

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@@123zj2 full metal theist should call himself "full mental breakdown". I have listened to him on his yt channel but he spurts rhetoric and not truth. He provides no evidence for anything he claims. David Wood provides evidences from Muslim sources. Who is lying? Does it really take a rocket scientist to answer that question?

Possibly. The Abbasids were a rather warlike bunch of people from the highlands of Iran. Their whole reason for rebelion and takeover of the Caliphate of the Omeyids was the fact that Omeyids were not radical enough and that they were quite liberal.

They are joking do you think either cared if they won ? David and Jay have a lot of respect for each other . They are friends after all

Me too! The objective is, Islam is a “farce “

​@@rampfoxhaha. True. This debate was a nice breath of fresh air for us apologist debate geeks cause we like both sides, so no matter what, we win.

@Lilia murah that's quite a stream of consciousness. Seems all over the place and without order.

@Lilia murah fact denier? You mean denying the historical fact of Jesus crucifixion and his tomb being empty 3 days later? Those are historically undeniable facts and even atheist historians can't deny. Pot meet kettle.

What does repent mean?

@@ntkmw8058it means ‘change your mind’ or ‘change your ways’. In a religious sense, it just means to turn away from sin and live for God/Christ/etc.

Smart guy . Totally right here .

Amen! 🙂✝️

When is Jesus's coming will he come before the second convanet .I think need to worry on second covenant because that is now happening and the Gog ma Gog era begins.

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which Church ? the One which Abused children & Nuns & Pples 4 the last 2000 yrs ?

Paul, outstanding summary and critical thinking on this. Not common in the age we live in. Good work, sir.

I'm from the UK, it would be a valid debate that happens often in debate corner in London. I'm not going to touch on all your other points except that the new testament as you know it, most likely the king James bible... is named thus, because it was re written by royal decree

Bro why you write an epistle?

@paullangton-rogers2390 Is not the Allah of Islam known as the "greatest deceiver"? A big red flag.

Not a pre-planned debate though. 🙂 The two had always had two different view on Muhammad and that is what was presented to the audience.

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@@123zj2 it's understandable your ashamed embarrassed & probably disgusted but grow up & stop desperately spamming with false accusations of lies being told, you wouldn't want your family to be subjected to mo' & you know it, let it go, you don't have to be a christian or jew or atheist-youll just need to accept you don't know about the most high, it's not a big step really

​@@mrfreeze2446 Christians worship a false messiah as a god, that's called the Antichrist in the Bible, you cannot escape that truth. There are no other religion in the world that worships a messiah as a god while being warned not to worship a human being LOL All these debates are useless.

@@ISAiah.42 that's your opinion, now where's your proof?

Haha I know

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@@123zj2 LOL that’s a good one. I’m well aware of full metal theist and he’s strait up Islamic propaganda garbage.

I don't think David was trying to claim Jay's argument is based on his lack of credability. He dabbled a bit in that department when he dismissed his point about King and Gibson, but the name calling was just him being funny. If you read how he and Nabeel talked to each other as friends, you'd be able to tell this is how David lets Jay know he's there to have fun.

@@ShadyOakMinistries Debate is supposed to be a scholarly approach to serious subjects not a dorm room conversation. If David wanted that he could've just had jay on the acts 17 channel. David uses the term conspiracy theorist (several times throughout) to discredit the hard scholarship that he couldn't deal with. I like David wood but this was a poor display. Jay Smith took him to school.

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Yeah especially all the obvious inside jokes that even jay was laughing at. Like at 42:29 (holes in the narrative)

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@@user-zu3ql4nc1n what did David wood lie about specifically?

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@@123zj2 so because he is humble he will make you believe him? Even satan masquerades as a angel of light. That is not a reason to believe anyone. Not great advice!!

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​@@123zj2funny how every Muslim has to refer to a 'scholar.' One thing I love about Christianity is that searching for the truth is utmost important. Like Jay Smith said, the Bible has taken criticism after criticism, many many years of studying and has a diverse group of scholars, who are not only Christian, but even Jewish and atheistic. The Bible by being critiqued by all sorts of viewpoints on its meaning, it's agenda, and accuracy have been agreed by many scholars that we have more information about Jewish history and the Bible that we basically have the original copies(even if they were lost to time) of the record of the word of Yahweh. Blessed be his name.

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@K C I appreciate the concern but these man made religions really don't work for me or contribute to my understanding of the world. I'm glad they do for you though I'm envious. Peace out

Earthling Carl, wtf happened to your channel?? I used to love it.

@Lilia murah there is a difference between facts and the TRUTH. Based off of the comment you sent, one might assume you were a criminal court judge. If muhammad was alive today and facing the judge vs the jury (in my country) concerning sex with 9 year old Aisha (after his own self admission to being SQUEEZED by jibreel - knowing he has semen coming from his ribs) ... I don't think the judge would take it easy on him after considering such testimony. Which is a fact. If you love the facts so much... Maybe prove it by actually considering the facts relevant to claims you hope to disprove with obvious subjective moral standard reasoning. Good day 💖

@Lilia murah Part 2 Meanwhile, Constantinople was still fighting for its very survival. In 717 a new Muslim force by land and sea appeared outside of Constantinople and a year-long siege ensued. After a desperate fight, the capital of the Eastern Roman Empire fought off the besiegers, but it remained mired in a struggle for survival. There could be no thought of freeing something as distant as Jerusalem when Anatolia was constantly raided and plundered. It was not until 740 that the Byzantine victory at Acroinon provided the Eastern Roman Empire with a degree of security in the Anatolian heartland. The Byzantine victory at Acroinon notably coincided with a general decline in the power and strength of the Umayyad dynasty, which was also beset with problems on its eastern frontiers. This allowed the Eastern Roman Empire to at last start a "reconquista" of its own. In 746, Constantinople regained control of Syria and Armenia, but already by 781 the Byzantines were again on the defensive. For the next half century, the Byzantine Empire was locked in yet another bitter struggle in Anatolia. Meanwhile Arab rule of the conquered Christian territories from Syria to Spain was characterized by brutality, oppression and humiliation for their majority Christian subjects. (See The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise.) The small Arab elite ruled initially over populations that were overwhelmingly Christian. Due to the burdensome taxes, humiliations and oppression, however, more and more people chose to abandon their faith for the sake of economic gain. Yet conversion is a far slower process than invasion and occupation. To this day, even after 1,400 years of Muslim rule, there are significant Christian minorities in Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt. Historians estimate that after four hundred years of occupation the inhabitants of formerly Christian territories were still roughly half Christian. The plight of the oppressed Christians population (whether majority or large minority) remained, therefore a motivation for the recovery of lost territory and by the mid-9th century, the Eastern Roman Empire had recovered sufficient strength to launch a sustained "reconquista." In 853 Constantinople sent a fleet to attack Damietta in the Nile Delta. Thereafter, despite some setbacks, the Byzantines continued to regain lost territory right through the middle of the next century. In 943 they liberated Mesopotamia with its overwhelmingly Christian Armenian population. In 961 they recovered Crete and in 965 Cyprus. In 969 Antioch was at last freed from Muslim rule and Aleppo offered tribute to Constantinople to avoid a similar fate. The recovery of Jerusalem now seemed possible, and Constantinople was determined to regain this most sacred of all Christian cities. A series of campaigns were launched that systematically recovered the coast of the Levant including Beirut, Sidon, Tiberias and Nazareth. Acre and even Caesarea were returned to the Eastern Empire, but Jerusalem remained just out of reach. As the tenth century came to a close, the Byzantines lost momentum and their attempt to regain their lost territories faltered. What followed was the worst phase yet for subject Christians in Palestine. The new and powerful Shia Fatamid Caliphate pushed back their Sunni rivals and took control of Palestine, including Jerusalem. The Caliph al-Hakim, who ruled from 996-1021, persecuted Christians and Jews and destroyed what was left of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. In the West, however, the setbacks had started sooner. In 827 the Muslim conquest of Sicily commenced and although it would take until 902 to complete it would eventually be successful. Meanwhile, in 837 a Muslim army had landed on the Italian mainland, ironically at the request of the Duke of Naples who wanted help in his squabbles with his local enemies. Throughout the rest of the century, the various Italian cities remained divided among themselves and all too ready to accept Muslim assistance, which in turn opened the doorway to Muslim mercenaries sacking, pillaging and pirating from bases in Italy. In 846 Rome itself was attacked by a Muslim raiding force and the basilica of St. Peter was looted but not destroyed. When three years later a larger Muslim fleet set out to attack Rome again, however, it was met by a combined Christian fleet that defeated it. What followed, however, was not peace but rather a long struggle for control of the Italian mainland. Indeed, the Muslims succeeded in establishing a base for raiding on the coast of Provence at La Garde-Freinet in about 888. While neither the raids from Italy or the base in Provence were comparable to the great Muslim conquests of the 7th century, they posed a menace to travel and trade and kept Western Christendom on the defense. This did not end until 915 when an alliance of Roman and Byzantine forces drove the last Muslim strongholds off the Italian mainland. For a time, however, the Muslims continued to raid the Italian coastal cities. In 934/35 Genoa was sacked, its male population massacred and the women and children carried off into slavery. Pisa beat off attacks in 1004, 1011, and 1012. Four years later, Salerno came under siege and was only rescued by a band of Normans -- notably on an armed pilgrimage to Jerusalem. It was only now, at the start of the 11th century, that the tide began to turn in favor of the Christians in the West. The Italian city states were gaining sufficient wealth to finance stronger defenses. In 1034, the Pisans launched an attack on Muslim North Africa. A generation later the Pisans again raided Muslim territory, this time Palermo in 1062 and 1063. Finally, in 1087, a combined force raised from Pisa, Genoa, Rome and Amalfi struck at the main base for many Muslim pirate attacks on Italian ships and cities: Mahdia in what is now Tunisia. The expedition was so successful that it enabled the victors to free prisoners, obtain huge reparations payments, and gain trading privileges. Most important, after the raid on Mahdia, Muslim attacks on Italy ceased almost entirely. But just as the Western Christians were gaining strength again, the Eastern Roman Empire underwent a new crisis. The Seljuk Turks had converted to Islam and with the passion of the newly converted and the skills of nomadic warriors they set about establishing their domination over Syria and then turned on Armenia, Cilicia, and the Levant, driving the Byzantines out, before striking at Anatolia. The Byzantine Emperor Romanus IV Diogenes assembled his forces and rushed to the defense of this vital heartland -- only to be decisively defeated on August 26, 1071 at the Battle of Manzikert. Shortly afterwards the embattled Byzantines started sending appeals for help to the apparently now stronger West. That aid would, a quarter century later, materialize in the form of what we have come to call the First Crusade. Furthermore, since Mr. Crawley - who despite repeated requests refused (or cannot) name a single source except wikipedia - insists I know nothing and have it all wrong, I provide below a list of selected (not comprehensive) sources on which I have built my opinion.

@Lilia murah Part 3 PRIMARY SOURCES * Chronicle of the Third Crusade: A Translation of the Itinerarium Peregrinorum et Gesta Regis Ricardi. Crusade Texts in Translation. Translated by Helen Nicholson, Ashgate Publishing Ltd., 1997. * ---. The Conquest of Jerusalem and the Third Crusade: Crusade Texts in Translation. Translated by Peter W. Edbury, Ashgate Publishing Ltd., 1998. * Baha al-Din ibn Shaddad. The Rare and Excellent History of Saladin. Translated by D.S. Richards, Ashgate Publishing Ltd. 2002. * Gabrieli, Francesco. Arab Historians of the Crusades. University of California Press, 1969. * Letters from the East: Crusaders, Pilgrims and Settlers in the 12th and 13th Centuries: Crusade Texts in Translation. Translated by Malcolm Barber and Keith Bate. Ashgate Publishing, 2013. * Novare, Philip de. The Wars of Frederick II Against the Ibelins in Syria and Cyprus. Translated by John La Monte, Morningside Heights Columbia University Press, 1936. * Pilgrimage to Jerusalem and the Holy Land, 1187 - 1291. Crusades Texts in Translation. Translated by Denys Pringle. Ashgate, 2012. * Tyre, William Archbishop of. A History of Deeds Done Beyond the Sea. Morningside Heights Columbia University Press, 1943. SECONDARY SOURCES (Especially recommended sources are marked with a *) * Allen, S.J. and Emilie Amt. The Crusades: A Reader. University of Toronto Press, 2014. * Andrea, Alfred J & Andrew Holt, editors. Seven Myths of the Crusades. Hackett Publishing Co. , 2015. * Barber, Malcolm. The Crusader States. Yale University Press, 2012. * *---. The New Knighthood: A History of the Order of the Temple, Cambridge University Press, 1994. * *Barber, Richard. The Knight and Chivalry. Boydell Press, 1970 * Bartlett, W. B.. Downfall of the Crusader Kingdom. The History Press Ltd, 2010. * Brand, Charles M.. Byzantium Confronts the West. 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Deeds Done Beyond the Sea: Essays on William of Tyre, Cyprus and the Military Orders Presented to Peter Edbury. Routledge, 2014. * Ellenblum, Ronnie. Frankish Rural Settlement in the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem. Cambridge University Press, 1998. * Folda, Jaroslave. Crusader Art: The Art of the Crusaders in the Holy Land, 1099-1291. Ashgate Publishing, 2008. * *France, John. Hattin. Oxford University Press, 2015. * Ehrenkreutz, Andrew S.. Saladin. State University of New York Press, 1972. * Galatariotou, Catia. The Making of a Saint: The Life, Times and Sanctification of Neophytos the Recluse. Cambridge University Press, 1991. * Gillingham, John. Richard I. Yale University Press, 1999. * Hamilton, Bernard. The Leper King and His Heirs: Baldwin IV and the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem. Cambridge University Press, 2000. * ---. “Women in the Crusader States: The Queens of Jerusalem 1100 - 90.” Medieval Women, edited by Derek Baker, Basil Blackwell, 1978. * Hazard, Harry W., editor. A History of the Crusades, Vol. IV: The Art and Architecture of the Crusader States. Univ. of Wisconsin Press, 1977. * Herzog, Annie. Die Frau auf den Fuerstenthronen der Kreuzfahrerstaaten. Emil Ebering, 1919. * Hill, George. A History of Cyprus, Vol. 2: The Frankish Period. Cambridge University Press, 1948. * Hopkins, Andrea. Knights: The Complete Story of the Age of Chivalry: From Historical Fact to Tales of Romance and Poetry. Collins and Brown Ltd, 1990. * Jacoby, David, editor. Medieval Trade in the Eastern Mediterranean and Beyond. Routledge, 2018. * ---. Studies on the Crusader States and on Venetian Expansion. Routledge, 2018. * Jotischky, Andrew. Crusading and the Crusader States. Pearson Longman, 2004. * La Monte, John L.. Feudal Monarchy in the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem, 1100 to 1291. Medieval Academy of America, 1932. * *MacEvitt, Christopher. The Crusades and the Christian World of the East: Rough Tolerance. 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Amberley, 2015. * Nicholson, The Knights Templar: A New History. Sutton Publishing, 2001. * Nicolle, David. Hattin 1187: Saladin’s Greatest Victory. Osprey Military Campaign Series, 1993. * Perry, Guy. John of Brienne: King of Jerusalem, Emperor of Constantinople, c. 1175-1237. Cambridge University Press, 2013. * Pringle, Denys. Secular Buildings in the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem: An Archaeological Gazetteer. Cambridge University Press, 1997. * Robinson, John J., Dungeon. Fire and Sword: The Knights Templar in the Crusades. Michael O’Mara Books, 1991. * Roehricht, Reinhold. Die Geschichte des Koenigreichs Jerusalem (1100-1291). Cambridge University Press, 2004. * Riley-Smith, Jonathan. The Crusades: A History. Bloomsbury Academic, 2014. * --. The Feudal Nobility and the Kingdom of Jerusalem, 1174-1277. Macmillan, 1973. * --. Hospitallers: The History of the Order of St. John. Hambledon Press, 1999. * *Riley-Smith, Jonathan, editor. The Atlas of the Crusades. Facts on File, 1991. * Runciman, Sir Steven. The Families of Outremer: The Feudal Nobility of the Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem, 1099-1291, The Athlone Press, 1960. * *Stark, Rodney. God’s Battalions: The Case for the Crusades. HarperCollins, 2010. * Tyerman, Christopher. How to Plan a Crusade: Reason and Religious War in the Middle Ages. Allen Lane, 2015.

Yeah the dizzle got murdered by Jay!! Jay is a historian whereas the dizzle is a philosopher...the dizzle is no match for Jay when it comes to the history of Muhammad and Islam

DW generalized his thoughts based on the common narratives. He refused to look back the 7th century, that was delibrate. Jay's a researcher always focus on 7th century. He's got huge friends at Sneakers Corner who are experts in 7th century Islam. The idea behind this debate is to distroy Islam using both classical narratives and the 7th century unknown history. This new information from Jay and his team is a huge problem for contemporary Islamic history. Many writers are now revisiting their views and sooner than later we'll see many new editions of already published books on Islam.

@OTTO OCTAVIOUS ummmmm too bad then. In Africa today, Christianity is sold. Visit Nigeria, Ghana and elsewhere. It's religious business.

@K C seriously K C, you forgot to mention who was doing the ascribing.

@OTTO OCTAVIOUS And I'm not ashamed to take a small ticket and learn from them. Can u come to my place and preach for free my friend?? I live in an Islamic country. can u do that??

@OTTO OCTAVIOUS Doesn't matter, will u come to my place and preach? can I have ur email??? I will send details?? will u fly here and do that for free???

@K C Allah sent his recitation to people knowing that they would corrupt the word of Allah? Why didn't Allah send his recitation to people who could preserve the world of Allah? btw, where is the source of your information or are you just inventing stories to scare children?

Racist

Hopefully, you will be roasting in the Hellfire soon.

Watch on youtube full metal theist channel videos regarding Colin (Islam Critiqued) as well as David Wood. Full metal theist is refuting all David Wood as well as Islam Critiqued lies, and all anti-islamic lies made by Christian missionaries also if you have any doubts /suggestions /review after watching full metal theist video then kindly write a comment directly on his channel, He is a humble guy and will surely reply to you in such a way that all your doubts will be removed.

@@123zj2 Have you watch the video? Dr Jay Smith has come up with very strong evidences with historical facts that Muhammad did not exist in the 7th century. In fact, Mecca did not exist in the 7th century! As someone who used to live in a Muslim country for 24 years, i wouldn't say all Islam critiques are wrong or refuted. In fact, most i have seen from David Wood and Jay Smith and others have been spot on. I have watched a lot of so called David Wood refuted videos but not convincing at all and i find most if not all lies in their video. I know full metal theist channel and no i don't believe it's a good source.

I do not believe religious Mo ever existed but David has also a point there of why Arabs would spend so much energy in so many years to make such funny ridiculous and insulting stories about their prophet.. Either were people who hated Muhammad and after he died began to spread such stories/Hadiths to alter his posthumous reputation or the Arabs had rich imagination and much free time to kill..lol.🙄😕

oh dear.

watch on KZfaq full metal theist channel videos regarding David Wood. Full metal theist is refuting all David Wood lies.

Watch on youtube full metal theist channel videos regarding Colin (Islam Critiqued) as well as David Wood. Full metal theist is refuting all David Wood as well as Islam Critiqued lies, and all anti-islamic lies made by Christian missionaries also if you have any doubts /suggestions /review after watching full metal theist video then kindly write a comment directly on his channel, He is a humble guy and will surely reply to you in such a way that all your doubts will be removed.

So they are actually TieFighters! Pew Pew!

David Wood was not convincing at all lol.