Why male suicide isn't a national scandal would be a good one. Or why rape conviction rates aren't a national scandal. I don't know why the woke cult have a monopoly on what society is allowed to be offended by.

Honestly, a good one and a continued one with Bastani, would love to see one with Hitchens, with unlimited time on it of course, possibly two of them, and the duo, maybe with some strong tea...

I haven't listened yet I already feel as though you are wasting everyone's time debating over such an introductory question such as this on the topic of immigration. All your viewers could answer this question in a sentence. I would like for you to have more debates and conversations on immigration, however I hope that next time you will start with a question or statement that's much further along into the subject so no time will be wasted scratching the surface. I promise you your audience can handle it.

Are all cultures just different, or better/worse? Is it possible that large swathes of the earth to be in worse cultures? Or: has the west gotten rich because of exploiting others or because of better values, practices, interests, moral righteousness on the average?

I want to be clear that I've followed you guys for a long time and respect you both. I wouldn't bother giving the feedback otherwise. Not Anton though, he should be fired for this!! 😉

Well she does live in Hampstead like a true socialist.

lol

My first time hearing her and she's a magnificent dope. Just let them work because they get in anyways and they eventually just become us and we forget they were they. WRONG. There are a great many new immigrants that have no interest in becoming 'us'. Its true we DO need to have a conversation about restructuring aspects of society to really care for people who want to have kids and truly supporting them and bringing back some reverence to the idea of having a family. Its quickly becoming the most important thing a nation can do if they want to continue to exist and not need to rely on heavy immigration.

Socialism is sick

She lost me at her first sentence.

Yeah she has to make up a position to stand against

Hilarious seeing a Guardian columnist providing almost exclusively an economic case for immigration. The upper class always look after their own.

What’s wrong with deporting all of them?

Classic straw man argument.

Exactly ! They're not proper students.....the Universities are a gateway. So many of the 'students' don't even turn up after the first few lessons.

It’s very weird that, I suppose the culture of Indians is so different to that of us Europeans. I remember when I was at Uni, my housemate/friend said his Dad is coming to stay with us for just a week and all of us were like that is quite strange as we lived in a student accommodation. Meanwhile Indian students come and bring along with them 65 siblings, 3 mother and 7 fathers.

Not just any students. It’s usually PhD level or research-based Master’s. They can bring a spouse and children under 18.

@@towmee well said: I believe it prudent for others to ensure they have accurate facts before commenting on important matters. The ‘real issue’ lies in the leadership of our country, not solely in migrants. Illegal immigration is the most pressing challenge that needs addressing, I'm not qualified to suggest specific solutions that’s not in my pay-grade. My parents, like many others, are immigrants from the Windrush generation, I also wish to highlight the immigrant roots of ‘much’ of the British population on this ‘Island’. It's crucial for all of us to tackle these issues without resorting to xenophobic rhetoric, which always rears its ugly head during election season, I wonder why? Instead, we should focus on addressing systemic problems such as our governments mismanagement, lack of investment, and widening wealth inequality, which affects all our citizens, regardless of their background but hurts the poor more regardless of colour/ background while they fatten their bank balances along with their friends. That’s the real problem if poor people became more informed and voted diligently then we will demand and have real change.

Also the speed of how we process people is a ‘HUGE’ problem.

She's either a moron or being disingenuous. The migrants come and go as they please in the hotels. There are no curfews.

It was all lies , the idea the NHS would crumble is a lie. For a start without the cost if illegals you could put more money into schools and the NHS to train our kids better. Plus migration with skills is no bad thing , you need a visa to work in another country , as long as you have skills its fine , but what's happening is the government is getting all workers from abroad instead of investing in our own. She mentions the government doing more to stop illegals and secure borders , but when they do something people like her kick up a fuss , then stop planes to Rwanda.

I'm sure she frames her holidays the same way, she was "locked up in a hotel" the poor thing

its lies and not only that they get several cards that tax payers pay onto for them to live on and its like 120+ a week which is more than what british living here get on unemployment benefits.

I do not know if it is a lie in Britain, but in Australia, asylum seekers are most definitely locked in hotel rooms, many for years on end. This came to light when Novak Djokovic was briefly detained in one before he was deported for breaching covid regulations. Britain has held Australia up to be a shining example and role model for how we manage refugees and have vowed to follow us with things like offshore detention so it wouldn’t surprise me if your country is in fact locking people in hotel rooms and you just don’t know about it. We didn’t.

Nope, she knows exactly what she is advocating.. evil

Blind old Polly climbing up a stick.

She is definitely GONE.

Not enough ice cream allegory for you lot?

​@@arnoldhemsley9317 Yeah agree she is an old lady who has lost her way. Bastini couldn't hold a candle to Matt Goodwin. He gaslights because the mess dosen't affect him. A rich commie who dosen't stand a chance when the smelly hits the fan.

Bless you Eva. Hope things go well for you 👍

which is all we can wish for, we thank you for choosing here

They make you colony

@@basilmagnanimous7011 I hear you. But you NEED us... Desperately!

That is because that Filipino immigrants are part of the few that actually respect and benefit our country, unlike the Africans and Arabian immigrants who come here for benefits.

Which Guardian columnist are you referring to? I'm pretty certain that at least 3 people on the panel have been published in the Guardian.

@@Torquemadia Come on now. Really.

​@@Torquemadiadoh, how do I know the answer yet you don't, Polly obviously, get with the program because this is the problem. Now pay attention or don't vote for the good of this country

@@ScoopDogg And yet, its because of YOUR vote, and the people who vote in the same way as you, that this country is in the state it's in!

​@@Torquemadia I think he's referring to the ONLY panelist that introduced herself as writing for The Guardian... The one who immediately straw-manned the argument to fit her counter arguments and then rambled on about Tories for soo long she lost track of her time. That one...

There isn’t a contradiction between the two things

@@Gooseplan Do tell which slum prospered by having more people in it ?

Maybe stop bombing their countries then?

"seeking a better life" is a case of seeking to increase their consumption of the earth's resources, to increase their waste and to increase their carbon emissions. Immigration is bad for the earth.

It seems British citizens come last, minorities needs come first.

Lieing liberals. All for their own pockets, snake oil salesmen.

Well not really. We didn't need migration back then because we had colonised a good quarter of the world at least. Our country was enriched via the proceeds of other nations and used in infrastructure public transport parks schools etc. We live in a completely different world order now for obvious reasons so comparing immigration from these two eras is quite odd

Which we had no right getting away with considering the size of the Island and also for the fact we were next to countries which had bigger populations and better allies it's an achievement that we even got 1% of the Globe never mind nearly 30% of it.

It has. We need to come to terms with this.

pay less but ontop of that expect some other country pay for their education and work experience

Businesses pay them less which supresses wages for the taxpayer. The taxpayer have to pay the migrants that doesn't work which is about half. Taxpayer always loses

"Importing a third world serf-class to undercut native labour is a GOOD thing"

​@@hallahallafulalso: tax credits

I am having trouble understanding her point. Is she saying that if we want to curb illegal immigration, we need to enforce labor rights, etc.? And, that the same "side" that wants to curb immigration also does not want to enforce proper wages/rights etc.? Is she making an incentive argument?

😂

Why does it matter if they're Europeans? Don't like looking at brown people or are browns just subhuman or something?

I don't know how such people don't ask themselves "If I have to lie and deceive to make people believe me, perhaps my views are wrong??"

He also gave Qatar as an example. Yet around 70% of immigrants there live in semi apartheid like conditions.

if you think this you show that it is not immigration you have a problem with but non-European immigrants. This just a reiteration of xenophobia and racism not a criticism of immigration.

​@@TheBustaProductionsso to be clear. When addressing issues with specificity, it's racist? It is absolutely impossible to comment on cultures and their detrimental impact on British people (of all races) without it being racist?

Yes, it keeps being that country, it's a duty to protect.

Thats kind of what makes a country a country

Except the West has forgotten that.

The one rule you need but you didn't think you'd have to say it... Like asking the child minder to not grape.....

​@jonbaxter2254 We didn't forget it, our politicians got bought by people who don't want us in the world.

Well said!

Yep, and the woke Left are trying their hardest to accelerate those divisions.

VERY TRUE!!!

@dominionphilosophy3698 and different races (like in Brasil).

You sound as old as me.

It's not failed at all! It was always intended to damage our nations, and in that it is succeeding.

It's not failed, it has done exactly what it was intended to. It was never intended to be beneficial to us.

It wass successful in the 90s. I grew up with best mates of all races. I just think it went downhill in the 2000s if we reference The Grooming Gang scandals and terrorist attacks. And then further downhill in the 2010s. Mass immigration was the issue. Not immigration in general. I grew up close with black people and Im glad they came here. Its helped shape my life. Love the music, the culture etc

@DarkAngel2512 it was never really worked, it just took time for the harm it was doing to show, that's all.

I went from engaged listening to Konstantin’s opening to maybe I’ll finish this video later as soon as she started 🥱

​@@user-xi2xi7qd3strue, Toynbee has all the charisma of a wilted cabbage. But debate is about logic and facts, not charisma. I'm sure you'll agree that if you only listened to charismatic speakers, your understanding of the world would end up very limited

@@number1neek She also failed in the logic and facts department 😂

@@user-xi2xi7qd3s care to explain how?

What annoys me is that even those on the anti-immigration side somehow believe the official numbers of there being 750,000 net migration despite us issuing 1,400,000 legal visas last year. Add to that the 100,000 illegal immigrants that we know about, it suggests that there are 750,000 people who leave the country each year. That's complete nonsense as we all know. Just ask yourself and your family and friends how many people they know who've emigrated in the past TEN years. I know of 4 families. That's it. We don't even have a system of counting those emigrating. Have you even been stopped at an airport or seaport and asked by some jobsworth with a clipboard if you're emigrating? Of course you haven't. Do the government have some other secret system of counting them? No they don't. They make the number up so that the net migration figure doesn't seem as bad as it actually is which is far in excess of a million each year. It's about time that the anti-immigration lobby called this out.

These b%stards bring nothing but war drugs and rape.

Let me guess......the few are the corporate elite?

Benefits the rich!!!

Immigration only benefits those who want to impose tyranny.

I don't want anymore immigrants in my country ..we are an island country and we are full up ..

I know. I grew up in east London. I haven’t been back for decades. It’s a den of *****

I was in London nearly ten years ago. After one day we hired a car and got out.

I was born one street north of Berkeley Square, a hundred yards north of the spot where Queen Elizabeth II was born, right in the heart of London. That London is gone. I can never go home.

Shame on the stupid self centred politicians and establishment. Their turn will come.

Same with Paris, it looks like ME city

You'd have to ask A Tory that one.

@@pdyt2009 What makes you think it would be any better under Labour? If many of them get their way, it will be far worse.

migrants are a net addition to the exchequer, statistically speaking people of your demographic are net recipients. You have this idea you are subsidizing migrants, when the fact is the economic setup we have is that migrants (who are on average younger and healthier) subsidize the native population. That doesn't make it inherently a good thing but this idea that it's charity is for the birds; they net pay in to the tax system.

@@Muzikman127 That 'net contributor' bullshit was debunked years ago, child.

​@@Stew282No it wasn't.

They work for less it's never ending

​@VoteReformUK822 That's a myth. I can assure you that they get the same if not more than Indigenous bits on site. Maybe in London but in house building that's not the case. And they are not very good just easily replaceable. They call them selves the new Irish lol never.

@@RazonButch86 no it's not a myth! It's called the minimum wage More migrants = more applicants = lower wages They come from poor countries where housing is fraction of the cost Minimum wage in Poland £3.97 Romania about £2 Albania £1 They come here get £11.44 an hour from Monday and they live in HMOs paying £400 a month rent all bills included! So yes they do work for less that's why my company has just put my wage to £11.77 despite earning hundreds of millions in profit each year They know a foreigner will take less because it's like a lotto ticket when they go back home

@@RazonButch86 so frankly you need to wake up pal! The minimum wage benefits big business due to high migration Wages were high until October 2005 when they slowly tanked due to Eastern Europeans

I bet you are useless af also frustrated af and probably some sort of son/daughter from a different immigrant family whos not from east europe​@@DontRefuseToVoteThisElection

Intelligent comment. I think some countries are better at culturally absorbing immigrants than others. Dubai, Hong Kong, Malaysia, USA, Singapore, Australia, Vietnam, India, China, Chile, Brazil, Panama, Seychelles, Mauritius, are good at culturally absorbing immigrants. The UK is bad at it. The UK needs to stop bringing in conservative sunni islamists. Bring in high quality immigrants and try to inspire them to stay in the UK long term.

@@AnAn___are poles nowadays avoiding UK or even moving out? I got that impression, they rather go to poland than stay in chaos.

@@effexon Perceptive comment. The UK has a very high emigration rate with mass brain drain and emigration of millionaires. Poland is one of the countries attracting a lot of UK citizens and UK immigrants.

@@AnAn___coz poland among baltics has actually working healthcare system, family friendly society and honest work culture with no tolerance for illegal immigrants. Well this is from estonia but sentiment in poland is very very similar. and polish PM argued this illegal immigrant point, not against any immigrant(anyone could go there and work inside EU country of course... and they have lot of businesses)

First, define what British culture is and then, live it and protect it. If not, it will be replaced. There comes to a point where you cant blame immigrants but only yourself for the state of your house. Brits are still the majority, so you are in charge.

Please polly

Those were their opening speeches - they were pre-prepared. She wasn't responding directly to the opposition - but just reading her opening statement which was, by the way, quite fair. The question was whether immigration is bad for Britain. If you decide that it is, then it is reasonable to assume that you would want all immigrants gone. This is the perspective she came from. She pointed out that if all immigrants left, Britain would be in trouble. You will notice that all panelists agreed that immigration is good for Britain right at the start. The rest of the debate was about how many should come in per year, and what kind of immigrants should come in. The irony is that most of the audience missed this. Every single panelist said multiple times that they want immigration of 50k to 150k. Then at the end, more people in the audience decided that immigration is bad. Goes to show why Britain has problems. Very few people seem to be able to follow a logical argument.

How did this happen? Why don't English understand the difference between good muslim immigrants, good nonmuslim immigrants and islamist immigrants?

@@AnAn___ It’s basic ignorance of incompetent people.

@@AnAn___ Because they haven't studied the related history or doctrines.

@@AnAn___ Islam in any form does not integrate with ANY western democracy.

We are being conquered. Infiltrate, subvert, convert, take over. Thats the play book.

If genuinely fleeing in terror for your life, would you be angry about a room in a hotel, being protected by private security, three meals a day and some spending money?!

Which law did they break?

​​@@lukemclellan2141- illegally entering the country. We have ports with immigration officials where refugees can make themselves known and make a claim for asylum.

@@nagillim7915 why don't the people come through the ports?

@@lukemclellan2141 - because they're already in a safe country so can't claim the French government is going to murder them. But they want to claim asylum in the UK and not in France. So need to get onto British soil illegally to do so.

Easy enough for the simple minded to understand

@@greglyons2526 Even though it seems you are trying to spread your own discontent, I actually agree with you. Not that this was an overly complicated subject, but it takes an intelligent person to make difficult subjects digestible for the average person.

Whilst I do enjoy listening to him, he seems to have developed a tendency to “pause for applause” a little too often. I personally enjoyed Matts contributions more in this debate. Also, and I disagree with him more broadly, Aaron was interesting to listen to here and did make some good points (despite coming across as a party political broadcast for the Labour Party in his earlier remarks)

If you don't understand the consistent logical errors, he makes, and you just want to feel cathartic about your own point and I can understand you. He sounds like an Onion article to me.

@@tenacioustubbs8358 Yeah, I generally admire Konstantin but the repeated pause for applause threw me off a little this time.

Exactly. When they said eight million a day to house migrants I thought how many nurses would that pay for in nursing homes.

It's not that simple. You have to stop them coming in in the first place or else failing to accomodate them will just force them into crime or begging on the streets

Legal immigration costs us 10’s of billion a year as well

@@forret Ofcourse it does. Even if they contribute by working, it's still constant catch up, building more roads, houses, hospitals and schools.

And that £8,000,000 figure is out of date now, it was correct last year. Now, it's reckoned to be about £12,000,000, and even higher by some.

And the value of these properties are going through the roff thanks to.....MASS IMMIGRATION

Champagne socialist

I don't think any one of the panelists is an average Brit, so I don't think that argument gets you very far.

"Asian" grooming gangs. Makes you think it's some Chinese or Korean gang, but ir it's Muslim grooming gangs.

Ahh... Unintended comedy. My favourite!

If you watch her segments on 2x speed she's far more bearable.

No, she’s delusional…always has been

No she just ignores facts.

True true

kisin can be very childish and low-level sometimes too. It's quite disappointing. Idk if he's unable or unwilling to actually engage at a higher level in good faith, but, for whatever reason, he frequently goes for posturing and pablum instead

Wasn’t Bastani the one arguing migration is great but not when the Tories do it? Kisin spent the whole time discussing on a higher level whether immigration is good for Britain, which is what the question was.

Is coffee good for you? Kisin argues that it depends of the dose and the quality of the coffee. And UK has a dose and quality problem with their coffee. How come he didn't answer the question then?

The base question is sorta poor i think. I don't think anyone other than the most hardcore of anti-immigration people would say that "Immigration is bad" in such a broad general way. The argument is that the current form and method is bad, however that wasn't actually the question of the debate.

It’s like a government run debate.

Most likely on purpose so they can't talk over each other.

They served their purpose at the time for the "elite" ruling class. The same Globalists that forever ruled the world.

Because that's what she is.

I doubt that she personally loses out

I'm posh but I think she's a tit. She started off by arguing against a position that I would speculate

Polly had nothing interesting to say, Arron made some good points though.

She was very far from being the most condescending person on that stage!

She works for the guardian and wouldn't expect anything else from that rag

Agreed. Her arguments are poor.

She answered the question. The opposition changed the question to another issue.

something tells me the audience of this particular channel is a tad biased.

Hi. I'm a left wing person. What did she say that was moronic specificly?

..or indeed reality

I mean she works for the guardian , if that isn't a damning verdict she's beyond hope I don't know what is

I dont get how they can be "our right .... to steal these best people from other countries".... common attitude.... not realizing that causes countries to collapse.

Yeah, they’re all “anti-racists”, “anti-colonial” luminaries, but bring up immigration and they’ll start telling you all how badly we need “those people” specially all their doctors and engineers. What better way to extract the wealth then steal the people from other countries, including their best and brightest.

She is a fool. Brain dead NPC spouting the usual line.

if you think this is for any reason than 14 years of austerity you’re a fantasist my friend

@@Jimmycricket- So you don’t think the streets look like shit because we are in one of the most unequal societies in the western world, we have over 4 million children in poverty, councils are going bust and the high streets are in decline, public services have been asset stripped and sold off to private companies based halfway round the world who give themselves nice salaries while actual liquid shit is pumped into our rivers? You don’t think the decisions government make have a domino effect on the cities and towns that make up this country? Do you have a better explanation for why our streets have never looked worse? Immigrants is it? I would argue the only remotely pleasant thing about walking down your average public road in the north or south of the UK is that you are guaranteed to have a nice variety of authentic restaurants and takeaways serving all kinds of international food: Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Turkish, Italian, Greek, Mexican, Jamaican, Portuguese, Argentinian. If it wasn’t for all that we’d have nothing to eat but chippy tea as we watch this failed state collapse around us. And if you think it’s the immigrants fault that the state is failing, then brother you have not been paying attention. Look where power resides. It’s not with me, it’s not with you, it’s not with the refugee, it’s not with the first-generation, second-generation, third-generation immigrant family. Look who has the power.

@@Jimmycricket- My point is the things you are complaining about are valid, but the buck stops with the people in power. How can you establish whether adding 10 million people has made a country better or worse? The population of the whole world has absolutely skyrocketed in the last hundred years in comparison to the rest of recorded human history. None of us are in a position to ascribe a moral judgement over whether more is good. What I am arguing is that all of the complaints we share about the state of this country are not the FAULT of immigration. Of course immigration plays into it, but if you’re going to use NHS being stretched to breaking point - better or worse, the immigrant workforce props up the NHS. Council housing stretched to breaking point? Right to buy and the slowing down of house building. Politicians receiving death threats? Two MPs have been killed by extremists. One was muslim, one was white. How is this relevant in an argument about immigration? Essentially what I’m trying to say is I feel like we agree more than you think, we just disagree that the root cause is immigration. Immigration is involved, certainly. But the buck stops with who has the power. Also, having good food to eat is literally one of the greatest pleasures of living. But that’s another debate.

​@@jdHaworthThe problems you describe there are all valid but they are not what this debate is about. However, importing millions of people makes these problems worse.

Yes with white crack heads, I totally agree. Deport them NOW

Thank you!

Whereas I noticed nobody laughed once at the comedian Konstantin Kisin.

@@freebornaiden7666 I wonder if you also noticed this wasn't a comedy gig.

@@daniel.lopresti So why was KK attempting to make jokes then?

I didn't, I thought it was rude and mean-spirited. She was pointing out that basically only Russia has left the ECHR because they were kicked out, and stating that Brexit has been a disaster, which is a neutral fact. I guess the people in the audience who voted for it didn't like to hear it.

👀👀

Great point.

Well said.

Those providing accommodation at taxpayers expense are becoming ever more wealthy

@@catscan2022 of course

good, if you don't like it you can get out

​@@user-qh6fp3di6hthere's a certain demographic that's screwing the natives.

Actually I disagree, you've got guns!

@@bulltraderpt right

I've watched Christopher Hitchins and Sam Harris debating. You do ok in the USA.

Soon, debates like this will be illegal here. :(

i quite like the way debates are handled in the northen africa/middle east countries that the migrants are coming from...

She can't: Too many immigrants in the queue already. 😅

😂😡😜👍

most likely, the doctor is a migrant too and they paid someone in their homecountry to get their medical degree and license...

More like illegal immigration. Most illegal immigrants come from these countries like Somalia, Libya, Syria and other Middle Eastern nation

Discriminating in a person's eligibility to immigrate because of his religion or race is a violation of immigration law in all countries of the world, I believe, with the exception of the State of Israel, which requires that the immigrant be Jewish or of Jewish origin.

​@@MuyassarMostafa... so? you're operating off a model that basically emerged from Christian charity and nobody here is even Christian anymore anyway. sinking your own ship to try and save others helps nobody. Islam refuses to take responsibility for its toxic elements and refuses to have a reformation so it can co-exist with first world values so what exactly is going to happen long term...? it isn't pretty

@@MuyassarMostafa Then it is time to change the law. We had enough of Mustafas and Mohammeds in EU. Coming from fail states just to ruin normal states.

@@MuyassarMostafaIndia’s constitution discriminates, because the same rules should not be applied to classes of people who do not agree to share the rules of others.

That bridge has passed. It needs to stop now.

And so is the spectator presenter Kate also. She and Polly are of the same ilk.

It might be better to lay off the jokes, when discussing a serious subject.

@@davidpryle3935he’s a stand up comedian that people love to hear him speak because he’s right on 90% of what he says.

She is a fool.

The Epstein joke fell a bit flat (over done I would say) but other than that he was getting laughs,

But they don't, so you do.

Your so right

You don't need immigrants to do anything. It's all false cost cutting & the usual Lefties. Let's say not paying £5 p.h. more .- Instead Let's get an immigrant for less. They claim rent benefit & top up benefits. Need NHS. Bring dependents, have children. On & On. You achieve millions of low educated foreigners who look forward to a pension. Polly - Stupid Woman.

lol grifter more like

​@@nawaz345lol, yeah, hur hur. Grifter more like, hur hur.

What is it with more conservative leaning people and just being so hyperbolic. You see it on Jordan Peterson videos all the time. Can we just chill out? Godwin is a run of the mill conservative fella, relax.

I like him but also do have a niggling wonder about his motivations. Totally understand him wanting to monetise his time but, to truly project his message to the widest possible audience, where it might have the most impact, this would surely be better accomplished via publishing his articles in the public domain rather than behind a paywall. Is his motivation truly to solve the problem or to make money from it? Wasn’t it Matt who followed Tommy Robinson during his EDL days, seemingly on the premise of unbiased reporting, later to ‘stab Tommy in the back’ by publishing a damning article in The Guardian?

Haha he’s a grifter 😂😂😂

Matt was MVP by far. But I'd give the runner up position to The Novara guy. He surprisingly sounded sensible at times which is refreshing. Konstantin gets the award for most cringe performance with his constant pausing for applause that never came. You could practically hear the crickets. Polly gets the award for being the absolute worst.

if they are your ENEMY why are you using KZfaq that was invented by multicultural people

​@dominionphilosophy3698 I totally agree. The commie should be ashamed. Oh wait a minute will not affect him. Hypocritical.

Well you, belittling that carefully them because they said they were in agreement for most of it.

He is a complete and utter tool

REALLY?

Yeah really !

Well then if you are but this. Then I got a snake oil website I would like you to go too

EXACTLY

Tell me the common sense part of what they said that wasn't just 1/2 of the story.

'Hunza Yusef' - It spoke volumes enough when you spoke nonsense about his speech and how you along with many others took it out of context but misspelling the man's name is hardly a surprise either, either stupidity or something a lot more worse.

​@@robertryan6782Can you explain the context please.

Being White is an immutable characteristic. A rant against white people in a white country is the anti white racism that seems to get a free pass by woke progressives. Just replace White with Black if it helps you understand.

​@robertryan6782 No, it was very easy to understand Humza Useless hatred for white people. He didn't like white people in positions of power. He needs to be voted out at the next election, and I think the SNP are on a drubbing like the tories.

And what's the context of a lack of non white people in high positions in Scotland that is 96 % white ? Humza either can't do maths or he's a racist.

That means 100,000 natives can leave to Australia to be replaced by 100,000 Pakistanis

NET negative will be better.

Me too

Net zero means 100,000 natives leave to Australia being replaced by 100,000 foreigners. You want zero immigration. Nil. Nada. Zilch.

​@@LS-xs7sg As an Australian what if we had a deal that if 100,000 Brits moved here than 100,000 Aussie's could go there? The problem is not just the numbers, 900,000 permanent arrivals here, it is the cultures of the people arriving. And the guy in the glasses is clueless. We have probably the highest immigration per capita. But it is not increasing our standard of living. We have people and even families, living in cars, despite having decent jobs, because there is no where else for them to live, not just in cities but rurally too. People die outside hospitals waiting just to get inside but the hospitals are too crowded, and nothing to do with covid, it's been like that since immigration became mass immigration thirty years ago.

have a look at the debate, Bastani was actually for control, unlike Polly...

This assunes that most British people have a grasp on culture 😂

I wouldnt put Bastani in the same boat as Polly. Polly is just unhinged - the classic white female liberal

​@markoarcabic aron has a child now so is starting to realise that his fully automated socialism would just be another bloodstained utopia once achieved

What do you mean by the "lucrative immigration industry".

When I immigrated legally I had to do a TB test (I'm from South Africa. It's highly prevalent in some parts of the country). It all depends on the country you come from.

She's a rat

I mean just throw passports away and have no airport checks altogether

@@DarkAngel2512I see you’ve been watching the videos of the USA southern border with the piles of discarded passports from people who flew to Mexico from China and then walked into California.

@@OkTxSheepLady no. I havent. Interesting

What kind of work was she envisioning for "asylum seekers"? Is there much of a call for digging trenches? Just curious what kind of work people are qualified for when they can't speak English, and have no paperwork at all, never mind academic or even school-leaving credentials? Just curious if she would, for example, want a young man like that looking after her grandchildren?

Who, the iPad kids? They can't even use correct English in a sentence. Parents don't bring up their kids properly anymore, foreign or not.

Exactly, invest in Brits and not import cheap labour!!!

​@@FormulaProgI'm English, can trace my family back to the Norman conquest. I'm bringing up my son alone since divorcing my abusive hysband. My son has good morals, ethics, good grades at school and is in the top sets for all subjects. I work as well. Your opinion is wrong. Parents who are doing a shit job of parenting aren't exactly getting support to do better when both parents have to work to keep food on the table and are constantly told they're shit because they're British, and constantly being put below criminal foreigners. Maybe if the government brought in financial support for us to have enough of our own babies AND be able to bring them up ourselves rather than having to put them into childcare for 8 hrs a day, we could fill all the posts that need filling. And that includes paying a LIVING wage so we dont need to take in work benefits. Maybe if they had built enough houses instead of restricting supply, we'd be able to afford to buy our own houses. But no, people like you, who I'm assuming are a boomer or similar, are sitting pretty in your houses that you bought when mortgages were affordable, looking down on the rest of us who came after you. Hang your head in shame your horrible twat.

Oh come on! Next you'll be saying we should build houses for British people.

Labour shut the training colleges!

We are sinking in immigration. They've took all the houses and are keeping the wages low. I'm sick of going along with liberal/left narrative that's got us here. We are loosing land to build yet more houses. There are no go open air toilets in towns and city's. No guess what's there.

My thoughts too

National divorce sounds bliss!

Those types believe that they and their ideology will be in charge in this brave new world they are creating. They are in for a BIG shock.

same applies to engineering from trades to white collars. They're appalling and never worth the hastle I've seen machine shops take on these migrants claiming theyre gona sort all their problems out only to discover the truth and lay them all off within half a year. All it boiled down to is our communities were destroyed and im sure this applies to every other industry.

It's been revealed many of them are fake, other people sat their exams. And don't forget the old lady that died because her carers couldn't communicate with paramedics.

Medical qualification fraud is rife.

I'm Australian and we have the same problem. Even if they are adequately trained if you are very ill, or injured, you don't want a nurse you can't communicate with easily.

Your right, something we are all noticing

Because there are different perspectives on it?

She's not lying. Iraq, Eritrea, Afghanistan and Somalia are full to bursting point with veterinary surgeons, software programmers, database engineers, AI engineers, oncologists, dialysis nurses etc. You can't swing a cat in downtown Mogadishu without walloping half a dozen PhDs.

@@baltasarnoreno5973, clearly - just look at the bearded guys with guns strolling in boats up and down the coast of Africa.

Of course she’s lying she works for the Guardian..

Deport who though? Students? Key workers?

​@@user-zm3px2qj4mIllegal or purely economic migrants, and any non-nationals who are a tax drain. I.e on benefits or not contributing as much as they are costing the national money pot. You know, the way almost every single country runs.

As an Australian I agree. We have some who have committed horrendous crimes, but don't get sent back. GDP increases the governments borrowing capacity, but it doesn't improve living standards per capita.

" @61shirley 2 hours ago I’m in the mass deportation crowd. GDP isn’t a pagan god" Wouldn't this mean that the UK rapidly devolves into a middle income country comparable to Mexico? Wouldn't this mean massive tax increases, spending cuts, massively lower real wages and incomes, and a UK almost entirely owned and controlled by foreigners? A per capita income lower than Malaysia, Eastern Europe, or almost every European country? Is this really what you want?

@@grannyannie2948 Immigration increases per capita income because immigrants outperform multi-generational locals.

The rise of the rest is far more obvious now.

people used to have kids

@@Bruteforce765And affordable housing.

​@@Bruteforce765 you are nearly there! Why are kids being taught what they are with the gender nonsense? Why are women taught to prioritise work over a family? Why not do as other countries have done and incentivise children?? Why are all the people in charge brown???

Britain prior to 1997 was a lot more localised. There was a bent to buy locally produced goods because the logistics of importing goods did not exist at the same scale. As time progressed we have looked more outwardly for our solutions. A downstream by-product of that is culture takes less of a primary role in society. Globalisation by 1997 started to play a major role in the UK. UK standard of living is higher than it's ever been when you look at statistics to do with poverty and wealth. UK has become a less productive economy. The countries population is small to begin with, there is a moat (English channel), the working class has shrunk and the middle class has grown (much like what China is experiencing now), and we have an aging population that means we need young people to ultimately prevent the economy from collapsing within itself.

the left bitches about environmental sustainability. is this not the first tent pole of that? How can you claim sustainability when you always have to import more and more people

I’m on your side but saying most of the patients were foreign born isn’t honest. We don’t know where people were born unless we ask them. If we want people to listen to us we have to stop exaggerating and making stuff up. Just tell it how it is mate, it’s shocking enough without the exaggerations. They won’t listen to us if we lie.

@tournaline3448 it was a judgment made mainly by the amount of different languages that I heard spoken. you are right that it was a rough guess, but I remember a time when that wasn't the case, when I walked into my local hospital. The fact that I remember there being far more white people in the same hospital 20/25 years ago (including staff) would suggest that by sight alone the people I'm seeing were not born here, unless you are suggesting that a small Asian minority have been pumping out 10 to 20 kids per family in the last 20 years and that's the result of what I'm seeing?

@tournaline3448 I'll give you another example.... if the white British population is declining, who are we building all the extra houses for? Like the women said in her speech, we are apparently importing skilled workers into this country that help to build our infrastructure. Can't remember who said it, but this is a ponzi scheme!

@@markwales48 Yeah can’t deny what you’re saying there. We need to be stricter about who comes in. The last time I was in hospital I was mostly taken care by 2 nurses, both foreign. One was from India, she was very well spoken, polite, and had a sense of humour. The other was from Pakistan, she never really gave any greetings, was often mumbling in her own language, and at times it felt like she didn’t really understand what I was saying. I was worried that I wasn’t getting the right treatment when she was around. That experience sums it up for me, if it’s hard working polite people who can fit into the culture, I have absolutely no problem with it. But people who are so different from us makes it hard for not only us but surely them too. Can they really be happy about being here when they can’t even communicate with the people actually from here? It really does feels weird walking down the street and not hearing English at all. I went to school with all kinds of kids, Black, Asian, mixed - but everyone just communicated as normal in the common language, English. What we’re seeing now is different. These people can’t speak English at all so we can’t connect with them.

This will lead to complete extinction of the British people.

It is impossible to reverse now. The best that can be done is immediate net Zero Immigration for at least 100 years in the West. Then, and only then, can we encourage the many inappropriate immigrants to return to their Homelands and start a process of grieving and repair.

And we the British did nothing to defend our lifestyle and society…

Haha...are you also looking for a ratcatcher to emerge? Perhaps named Adolf?

there will be a far right backlash because we are not going to turn this tide back in any more measured way, and it's inevitable that if it continues it will get to breaking point