Rodri, Casmiero, Kante, Bruno, Partey and Caicedo are all far better and have had better team results than Rice. Not top 6 in England even, he is top six at Westham....

You're one of them guys who goes by the media and other fans say without looking at performance and his stats. Look in to them then come back and compare bro!

Frankly this top 3 thing is an American thing, frankly what I wanna know is, does he upgrade on what we have, is he the right fit, if the answer is yes for these then buy him.

@@charles9489 it’s not an American thing. It’s a stats thing. You saw this before American sports culture started approaching. Fans always compare. Now it’s easier to compare and rank because we have stats.

@@jamesmccreery250 Kante hasn’t really had a great year. Partey isn’t as good as Rice. This end of season shows it. You don’t see Partey funneling people into the position for him to intercept the way Rice does. Rice looks more like a Saliba in that regard. Bruno isn’t an 8 and honestly tends to be overrated bc he flips to the ground and throws a fit and gets fouls and free-kicks. He’s good creatively but he’s crap defensively. Rodri and Casemiro are better sure, but I’m not even sure Casemiro stays in that conversation for long because he’s suffered a lot of bad decision making this season with his several red cards. Rodri is the best metronome in the world. Partey when he’s on fire is better but when he flips, he craters. Rice had that Rodri level consistency.

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Some of these guys are clueless, I know bavess 14 is clueless about players, I don't know about the other guy vut to see Alex in this parody is heartbreaking, anybody that watches football knows rice is a limited player, would be able to do what partey and rodri does for their respective clubs? Big NO, that's not his strengths, I really don't understand how some people want us to sign a players that only good at chasing down the ball to a team that dominates possession, what would he do in the set up, I mean Tierney our LB lost his role to a f&#king midfielder because he's not comfortable with playing out from the back, same way pepe isn't comfortable with being patient on the ball, he likes to run at opponents, why all of a sudden do this clowns think getting rice would work at arse is beyond me, and they go; he'd work with arteta, arteta us good at improving players bs

Aghh i keep seeing these comments and i just cringe man. Gabriel is shaky, saliba and white are our ONLY defending options with real alpha mentality, tierney is an injury machine i mean we all know what he CAN offer but fact is he just hasnt offered that for multiple seasons now because he keeps getting injured. No good for a team like us as much as i do like him when fit. Our defense is still SHAKY we need a bastoni or a tomori then a fresneda and maybe bring back tavares after his great season. Move zinchenko away from such a vital role in LB and move him to CDM/CM in preparation for jorginho/partey/xhaka departures although i do want to squeeze another season from xhaka i think he improved massively and is huge personality for us in the dressing room. Once we are confident in our defence THEN we wanna be looking at kudus/mount and getting in osihmen/vlahovic and for extra threat on the wing we need diaby who we are looking at. All in all i think arteta has done amazingly with what he has but realistically there is a reason we get SLAPPED in europe im sick of it. We need MORE investment man 200m doesn’t cut it especially when we are buying players who arent proven to really have an impact like caicedo or rice. Yes they are good and can add structure but you dont build a house on sand!!

James and Graham on AFTV really good. There are couple of others decent. A bit harsh I would say.

@@abdullahibnmiah2986 I''m not sure why saying I'd rather liisten to these guys is harsh, it's just my opinion. I alao said without meaning to be disrespectful and I'm not as I quite enjoy the Tactical insight show (the only one though). If you prefer the AFTV guys then I don't think that's harsh at all.

@@claytonmars7355 fair enough. I like all :) some aftv content is fast forwarded at times lol

We still have partey in that position and we are looking at caicedo… caicedo is also the same price tag as rice though. Honestly think zubimendi will be a better option im tired of overpaying for players who come in and under perform for us. Some PL players you can steal then others like rice and caicedo get slapped with big price tags when a big club has been in for them for a while. Trying to sign caicedo in January for 40 mil or under and now in the summer they are slapping a price tag on him basically double or more than that. We need to be careful and bring in REAL players who can have impact. Unshakable mentality players. I like Rice but 100mil? 50 mil and i would put the bag on the table but man… 100m could go on an osihmen because as much as i love jesus he isnt clinical or lethal enough in front of goal like haaland is. 1 chance, 1 strong strike BANG goal. Jesus doesnt to that he is technical and likes to dribble and pass. We need a striker like ronaldo who is a little selfish but all they want is to score every game.

Osimhen aint it. Napoli are flying right now sure, but Osimhen wouldn't suit our profile for a #9. He is an immense goal scorer sure, but he cannot link play like Jesus, nor press like him either. Add in the fact that, according to reports, Napoli will demand 150mil+ it just doesnt make sense to me at all.

that would be insane and i’m all for it. it could also provide some depth in the midfield if we move zinny there

Nah he wants to move high up the pitch. He won't like this.

I know stats are not everything, but they seem to prove you wrong. He has had a better season than both Partey and Jorginho, even though playing in a disfunctional team. Consistently a 7/10 or better.

What do 100 million player do? Is he not better than enzo fernadez, Bellingham, tchoumeni Moreover man u paid 70 million pounds for casemiro who is over 30 years earning a far higher salary. Even though caicedo for 80 million will be a better deal only if he will adapt immediately Then will have to put trust in jorginho in that number 6 role then

I think being with Arteta will raise his levels further

​@@EricusXIV but the eye test suggest @ Benji Ashamole, is right, we've seen these movie too many times to fall for it, can rice play as an orchestra, can he do what partey and rodri, does for their club, has he shown those qualities to progress play even in the England squad because the English team relies on their flanks to move the ball forward, so what does he bring to these arsenal team, does he dictates play, I mean Tchouameni has passed every eyetest but has rice? Maguire at Leicester too was a revelation then , look how that ended up

@@jacobalexander4167 I disagree, I think he passes the eye test as well. Also, he is getting better and better every season and is already arguably top 10-15 in the league. Really don't get the pessimism.

He’s a starter at Real Madrid… he ain’t swapping that jersey to come here.

Declan is quite literally the perfect fit for our team.

As if Camavinga will join Arsenal when he is already a regular starter for Madrid

Are u mad or dumb? Camavinga is playing regularly at real Madrid & you think he'll come to us? 😂😂😂

Coverts that to ponds pls so that his I'd see his true value 😂

You’re right about Caicedo but the thing is… last year everyone was saying the same thing about Bissouma and look how that has turned out. I think, with his international experience Rice is a safer bet. Also, don’t forget- Caicedo signed a new contract in Jan, after BHA rejected a £70M bid so he won’t come for anything less than £80 and some reports put him in the Declan Rice price bracket. If both cost £100M then Rice is closer to what we need.

​@@TwistedSoul2002 Comparing Bissouma with his poor character ( sexual assault allegations and over inflated ego) and lackluster (overhyped) defense to a true young stud like Caicedo is not a fair compariosn. People were not praising Bissouma on his offensive prowess at all. Caicedo wants to take care of his family so he signed a deal that would increase his wages more. The cost of his transfer shouldn't have increased very much because it was a weekly salary based deal mostly He (Caicedo) shouldn't cost much more than what we offered for him in January. Also can you find a trusted source like Orstein or Fabrizo, sky, ESPN, that says that he could go for 100 to 120 million? If you can link that in your reply I would like to see it friend. Caicedo is relentless as of late. He also had to play RB for Brighton recently and he did pretty damn well. He in my humble opinion is more versatile than Rice. We can't fault Caicedo for Ecuador not being a good international team. He doesn't have the team that could help him get to the bigger tournaments in the world. The raw potential of him is amazing. I still very much believe we can get him cheaper than Rice. We have to realize Arsenal will not overspend too much even if we have more finances to use. We have a team to build up and if it is possible that Caicedo costs 20-30 (maybe more) million dollars less we should grab him. Arteta loves the kid too. They wanted him in January and Rice in the summer. That was there plan. I respect what you're implying

I think if we want to seriously compete for the prem consistently, we need that kind of player. . And in todays market with grealish and enzo fernandez are commanding 100mil, rice is 100% more impactful than those players. Defo includes english tax but even still, he will elevate arsenal to another level

100m is Osimhen

@@dude99844 I agree. Already knows the prem and plays with his heart of his sleeve and most importantly, loves a duel

Facts

​@@dude99844 so you want us to go the Manchester United way, throwing ridiculous amounts for average players? No thanks

Kephren Thuram would be a better purchase and a quarter of the price.

@@ethantownzen9432 what are his defensive numbers? Has he any epl experience? How long has he been an international? Every played at the euros or world cup? So how's he better ?

Is he better than Kevin at 10? No Is he better than gundogan at 8? No Is he better than rodri at 6? No What is he good at?

@@dubomlollen3019 why comparing a defensive 8 to a 10 like Debruyne? Rodri is arguably Spains most accomplished midfield general so in the world there are very few you can compare him with. Rice is not even at his peak yet.

Even Maguire wasn't as bad as this for Leicester 😂😂😂

Not even top three in London

They are used to doing it this is not the first time and it won't be the last

Was he better than Maguire at Leicester, because Maguire too fooled the world like rice us currently doing only to be exposed when he got to a bigger club

@@jacobalexander4167 their corresponding positions are completely different. it’s easier to judge a 6 than it is to judge a CB. and maguire has been misprofiled at utd, he was incredible for leicester and is still very good for england. remember, utd made pogba and di maria look average. Rice is well worth it, purely because he’s such a rare commodity. part of signing him will be taking him away from our competitors.

@@joelshaw864 do you think rice is able to do what partey and rodri does for their respective clubs? Don't say he doesn't play for a decent side, he plays for England and any analysts would tell England tends to bypass rice in their build up phase using trippier and Shaw as the guys that moves the ball upwards even when they are facing lower oppositions, I mean rodri and partey's stat won't look crazy because they play for a possession based side now imagine bringing in a player whose strengths lies in chasing the ball to a role where he doesn't get to chase the ball but be an outlet of progressing the ball from defense to attack, he'd be a fish out of water, same way Maguire was comfortable at Leicester, sitting deep and doing a traditional defenders job to a teams that ask of him to start out play to pass it out from the back, it's going to fail, Tierney doesn't get to play much because he's a typical LB, wants to clear out when under pressure but arteta want someone that would pass it out instead when under pressure, so it's basically the same scenario

@@jacobalexander4167 it’s a good point. but Rice at 24 essentially plays every respective role in the west ham midfield. his interceptions and positioning make him a better transition killer than both rodri and partey. and his ball carrying makes him a better outlet than them both as well. he’s capable of playing both interiors and as a 6 to an elite level, on top of the fact that his profile and technical ability allow him to slot in at LB and CB if needs be. there’s not a single player. his mental profile also needs to be considered, as west ham captain, and likely future england captain, to me he’s a no brainer, he’s the future. the reason england bypass him in the build up is largely because of gareth southgate, and the centre backs (dier and maguire🤢) inability to reach him

@@joelshaw864 have you asked yourself why, his interceptions and tackles are higher than the likes fo Rodri, partey and casimero? These guys play for a possession based teams, so their roles isn't chasing after the balls but helping to progress play, receiving the ball from deep and moving it upwards with a pass, is rice like that? Is that what he does for either England or westham? Rice is a mid-table midfielder, his strengths lies in chasing the ball, whereas the biggest clubs play possession game, more time on the ball, little time chasing the ball

In the kingdom of the blind, the half binded gets to be the king I guess😂

oh come on now lool

Like how pepe is to us or Maguire at united or enzo at Chelsea, don't be ridiculous if there's anything that is a fact is that big money signings doesn't work at England

@@jacobalexander4167 Terrible examples. Delcan Rice is proven in the Prem, he's played and consistently added more and more to his game. Pepe had 1 standout season in Ligue 1, Enzo had 1 fantastic World Cup. Meanwhile Declan has shown time and time again that he performs at a level above a struggling West Ham. It's not about the money, it's about the experience.

@@YoungCarty14 We've never replaced Vieira's presence in midfield. Partey is close, but far too injury prone and inconsistent when it matters.

@@dak8710 and Maguire isn't prem proven, he played for Hull,before going to a stable Leicester team before ending up at united? Isn't that classified as prem. proven, and how has rice elevated his game when his teams best finish is 6th

You think arteta would fall for the British media outcry, he didn't fall for the maddison bs and went for ødegaard, I feel he'd do the same