NO WORK IS INVOLVED IN SALVATION IT'S A FREE GIFT TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIM

Bless you 🙏🏼🕊️ We need to ask for our ‘daily bread’ and ‘put on’ the armour of God for spiritual warfare. We are blessed having the promises of salvation for all who ‘follow him’ and ‘keep’ his commandments. That means we can lose our way and the parable of the seed falling on stony ground and the ground that takes no deep root for the cares of this world ruin our faithfulness. Also it says we can have faith that moves mountains, pray and fast, give to poor, even offer our bodies for our faith to be burned yet…… if we have not LOVE, to which is the highest commandment, we are but clanging cymbals making lots of noise and opinions but are empty. The greatest of faith hope and love is to LOVE. We still have to follow the two greatest commandments. And ‘renew’ our minds daily. Dying to self. 🙏🏼🕊️ Thank you for encouraging all. We are to build one another up not tear each other down. Jesus is praised and glorified by doing these things.

@@TheElizabethashby LOL! Putting your comment in all caps won't make it true lol. No work is involved in salvation being offered to you, BUT you better believe that "work" is involved in holding on to it. Whether you (or I!) like it or not, "enduring till the end" is a requirement, not just resting on the fact that we prayed a prayer one day. In order for the scripture to talk about "falling away", you would have to FIRST have something to "fall away" from, do you not agree? I hope this makes sense and helps.

@@OkImJustCommenting there is no works required least any man can boast. You believe that you can work out your salvation good luck Christ already worked it out. You can’t add anything else to what he did. Your saved sealed until the day of redemption.

@@terrillclark6486 My thought is when is the moment that God applies the seal? I don't think that is when we pray a sinners prayer or something like that. God is outside of time, he knows exactly how, when, and what state we will pass away at in the future. It's not that the seal is given and taken away, it is only given once, and there are those who never got it because God knows their future. Long story short, we can lose our faith from our perspective, and in that case, I don't think that person was ever truly and officially sealed because God foresaw that happening because he knows hearts down to every cell. So both views are essentially right, we are sealed forever (once it is actually applied) and from our point of view, we can lose faith and become lost again. It is truly the only way to understand the seed parable as far as I see it. I can't imagine turning from Jesus at this point, it's not even an option for me to consider anymore. I think someone who truly has that heart conversion and born again, they will never walk away from it. There will be many that say all the right words but it never happened to them, they never got sealed.

Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3, and what is Christmas, Goodfriday and Easter according to the Bible?

Church or denominations don't save only Christ alone

@@deonbotha9235 agree with you.. not the churches is saving us but Christ alone by His marcy,grace death and resurrection.. we need to have a personal relationship with Him, ask Him in alone time in prayer to start a relationship with you, recognize the sins in your life and repent

What's your example from Scripture of someone adding Jesus to their lives while simultaneously not making Him Lord and Savior. One cannot "make" Christ Lord and Savior, He is who He is, no matter what you believe, and one cannot "add" Christ to their lives. It is not according to human will or exertion, but by Him who calls. Our will is still involved though, don't get me wrong

@@michaelbarger3665 Matthew 2:21-27 … our friend means that people who claim Jesus as Christ but not following His teachings

No Faith no salvation Matt. 25 John 15 1-7 Phase Prophit Alert

Then you need to remember the earliest verse….if you do not forgive your Heavenly Father WILL Not FORGIVE YOU. There are so many If’s that debunk once saved always saved. Try reading the qualifications of a Bishop in the book of Timothy because the Bishop can fall into condemnation of the devil and there are many others and try in Rev. 2-3. If ppl were once saved always saved then why go to church anymore or read the Word anymore etc.?

@whistlep4494 the gospel is what saves and there is only one gospel and that is the faith in the Jesus and his redemptive work on the cross and rising again. If you think, you're saved because YOU forgave someone, then you believe in another gospel that doesn't save. That verse you mentioned about God not forgiving if you don't forgive isn't about salvation but one being held accountable during their earthly. You're not a child of God because you forgive people, you are a child of God because you believe in His only begotten Son. Now if you don't forgive others, you're not BEHAVING like a child of God and at that point you're being a disobedient child but you're STILL a child because of JESUS....NOT YOU. To the question about going to church, those who are born again have been giving a new heart and have the Holy Spirit and want to please God. Does this mean they will be perfect in their walk and never have battles or struggles to face? Absolutely not. The flesh and spirit are at odds with one another. Understanding the difference between HOW to be saved and HOW to LIVE as a saved person is a very important thing.

Well, Apparently you haven.'t read James's message rounding out Paul's message in Ephesians. You know what Is sad That a person would put their salvation in the hands of what some man said instead of what the bible said. Take heed at no man deceive you matthew mark and luke. Jesus said that in the in end time prophecies. But go ahead and believe some man over what the word of god said and what jesus told you. Remind me of the five foolish and five was virgins. If you believe the wrong message when the RapTure comes. You need to have the right Message of faith or you're gonna be denied entrance Into the kingdom of heaven Because of deception. Hence the term false assurance

@danielmccabe8449 having faith and assurance in Jesus and His redemptive works alone is deceptive and false assurance???

Amen

Amen!!

We all are sinners that's why we here but not all of them. Some they come here as an obligation to save others on request of God or nature. Only way get rid of our sins are forgive yourself all wrong doing and move on with the life doing good deeds throughout the rest of the life and redeem our sins

Some cases l am in total shock to read that kind of atrocity happened to the children Adults are acceptable they knew what they doing and consent was there.

I know for me sometimes hard to stay on the narrow road because I am a sinner but it's the ONLY road for me prase the Lord hollow be your name amen 🙏

And John 6 😊 Verse 37: All that the Father gives me will come to me and whoever comes to me I will NEVER drive away Verse 39: And this is the will of Him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that He has given me

Amen

Yahusha 🙏☝️worthy of all praise , Glory be to The Father.

@@tomames6624His name is JESUS!

OSAS is Damnable Unbiblical devil doctrine.

Thank you, brother, for sharing this... i fail, I get angry and depressed, but the message of His love, mercy and allmightiness carries me back... "I have given God countless reasons not to love me, but none of them has been strong enough to change Him"

Glory to God!!

I weep with you and pray you make right choices from this point on in your walk with Christ.

All these people CLAIMING that they “NEVER sin anymore” are LYING So just DO NOT give up…. YES, sin DESTROYS and we SHOULD NEVER SIN though it is IMPOSSIBLE to “never sin” while in THIS cursed flesh

That scripture are those who truly walk in Righteousness. What happy to Demas then and he walked with Apostle Paul too but left for the world. Then remember the easiest verse….to remember…if you do not forgive your Heavenly Father WILL NOT FORGIVE YOU. There are so many If’s that debunk once saved always saved. Try reading the qualifications of a Bishop in the book of Timothy because the Bishop can fall into condemnation of the devil and there are many others and try in Rev. 2-3. If ppl were once saved always saved then why go to church anymore or read the Word anymore etc.?

@@whistlep4494 you didn't save yourself, therefore you can't keep yourself saved. Scripture says no one can snatched the saved out of the Father's hand. If you're saved, you stay that way. If you "fall away," you were never saved to begin with. It's the perseverence of the saints. The saved were chosen, predestined, before the creation of the world. Really think about that.

@@ACE53621 That verse are for those who obey. Doesn’t Christ say obey? Yes! Demas walked with Paul and Peter but lived the world. Read this and it’s easy to understand… ”Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.“ ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3‬:‭6‬-‭7‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Read Rev. 2-3 where Jesus warns to overcome. The Lukewarm church is going to be vomited out of Gods mouth. Does sound saved? No! We must obey Him by the help of the Holy Spirit. Ppl use those few verses all the time. Apostle Paul we are not saved until the end. Meaning we are to walk in obedience. Remember Faith without works is dead. When you re as c how many times Jesus says, Works. God Bless!

Help. May trust God that He will keep me

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No, you're still being saved & so long you continue in the faith, steadfast....working out your salvation daily, with fear & trembling,...you will be saved, on that Day, .when your salvation is (will be), complete, when you die in Christ or if the LORD returns before you die... that's the Scriptural TRUTH..... search it out for yourself...

@@Nkoti-Ooks-tv7xv Excellent , well done said. Hell is filling up because a lot of people think they are saved so they don't have to check if they are in the faith which actually means they are in Christ Jesus and Christ Jesus is living in them. We must have a living relationship with Christ Jesus. And yes we will suffer. Once saved always saved is a LIE.

Amen! We’re about to see him come for us!

Hello, the rapture is not going to happen 4 almost 4 decades at least. I have had hundreds of interlocking signs from GOD. Minister, William Lorne Marks YAHWEH Ministry CHRIST

Thank you for your comments 🙏🏼

According to God's Word, You can lose your salvation...don't be deceived by the lies of Satan. 1Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. This earth on which we live, where men both stand and fall; and the best are subject to failing, being sons of Adam as well as sons of God; partly flesh and partly spirit. -The vigilancy required in order to our standing, Take heed. -How many thousands have fallen by a presumptuous confidence of their own strength in standing! they fell by thinking it impossible to fall. Romans11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Romans11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. --The Lord is with a people only whilst they are with him; if they serve and seek him, he will be found of them; but if they forsake him, he will cast them off for ever.( See Hebrews 10:26) Hebrews 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Hebrews 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Hebrews 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. 2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 2 Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. -----Woe to those that relapse from God to the world, from truth to error, from grace to vice; their latter end will be worse than their beginning, if they do not recover themselves again by timely repentance, they will be cast into the lake of fire with the rest of the wicked, no matter what their previous profession.

I know buying into this doctrine comes from a hardened heart but I’m going to pray for you and hope you let the words of our Lord Jesus Christ sink in. ”Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes. Truly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all that he has. But if that servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and be drunk, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.“ ‭‭Luke‬ ‭12‬:‭43‬-‭48‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ ”But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.“ ‭‭James‬ ‭3‬:‭14‬-‭18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ ”Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation-as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.“ ‭‭II Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭14‬-‭16‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

@@dargasbGod bless you.

@@dargasb if we could lose our salvation, then nobody is saved

Muslims, Catholism, and many other religious people. It's a spiritual war and many casualties!

so very true,peter went so far as to be crtcified upside down,feeling not worthy to suffer as christ suffered,if this was false why would the disciples,give up riches and some, a good lifestyle for nothing, but christ and his teachings....the early christians suffered emensely,i cannot say what these false teachers and prophets for profit will recieve apon meeting the lord,but i wouldn`t want to be them........praise be to the father,son and holy spirit amen...

Very likely. But some have secured salvation. Have walked away from it. Not christ revoking it. For in christ his promise is eternal. But children raised in faith. And I mean children of ALL ages. May come to the point of cursing God and walking away. Now this sin is not unforgivable. But. Like all sin , requires transformation and repentance . if it is not done. As Paul has said. If you continue in sin. Then there is no path for salvation. Whether having never been born again. Or having been done so. Still walk away .

Phil 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ

You can walk away all you want. But HE STILL BOUGHT YOU. Even one's emotional folly wavering on foundations of sand as Luke said, you cannot just "UN" BELIEVE. One in this state has obviously not been praying or walking w the Lord but by no means will you lose salvation. You'll just lose your testimony and all reward crown jewels at the judgement seat. Tears wiped away but literally the bottom rung of heaven and the Lord's assignments the other side of this matrix.

Don't kid yourself. Moral cowards who refuse to take person accountability for their every thought, motive, and deed love this lie. Satan's first lie - which led to the fall of mankind (Gen 2:17; 3:4). "For if AFTER they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are AGAIN entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, AFTER they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them." 2 Peter 2:20-21

@@SafeGuardYourSoulAmen. Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’

@@SafeGuardYourSoul I don't know if you are speaking to me but I've been a born again believer who's life has been changed many many years ago so I suggest you get behind me. I know Jesus personally and I will not be second guessed on social media. I LOVE YOU LORD AND I AM NOT ASHAMED! USE ME LORD...MAKE ME MORE LIKE CHRIST. :)

Amen

A few scriptures for you to consider 1) 1 Timothy 4:1 (read on for more) 2) Matthew 13:18-23 Jesus did not ever teach one could not or would not ever walk or fall away from belief. If someone teaches this; it presents a false sense of security. This would contradict the teaching of Paul in 1 Timothy 4:1.

​@@21stCenturyRevivalWhich church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3, and what is Christmas, Goodfriday and Easter according to the Bible?

​@@darinb.3273Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3, and what is Christmas, Goodfriday and Easter according to the Bible?

@@vusimngomezulu2500 ME: Hello Vusi, those are great questions and a great number of churches exist through a misunderstanding of what is written in the Bible. I will share with you what I understand follow Biblically. Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? ME: There are multiple churches spoken of in the Bible but they exist only because of location hence the term "churches". In three of the Gospels Jesus asked Peter a specific question see Matthew 16:13-20, Mark 8:27-30, Luke 9:18-20. Matthew gives the most complete discussion between Jesus and Peter among the Gospels. A quick summary based on the answer Peter gave Him Jesus responded upon this rock I will build my church. Christ established the church, so it is His church. No other name for a church exists. That is the church Christ established therefore the only name. Church of Christ or Christ's Church. No 1st, 2nd, Southern Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, Holiness, Church of God, Presbyterian, Jehovah Witness, Mormon, Latter day Saints, Roman Catholic, Islam/muslim, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, I likely missed one or more. Jesus Christ named one church and it is his church. Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3, ME: My preferred method is to post the scriptures but sometimes my comments are dismissed from the comments. I can at least refresh my memory with them. Matthew 7:21-23 Christ isn't addressing a church here, he was addressing the people who claimed to follow his teachings, but didn't follow them in the day of judgement. Romans 10:1-3 this was referring to men of Israel making up their own righteousness and disregarding the righteousness of God 2 Corinthians 11:12-15 this is not referring to a church. This has to do with the evil one presenting himself as an angel of light, which he is definitely not. Paul is warning the people about those who masquerade as follows of Christ. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 This is again speaking not of a church, but of people turning from the teachings of sound doctrine, instead these men form and follow their own false doctrines. 2 Peter 2:1-3 This is again talking of false doctrines and men who teach them. No church is specifically named here. and what is Christmas, ME: The Bible makes no reference strictly thought up by man. Goodfriday ME: A name given by man and there are no references to the term Good Friday in the Bible. and Easter according to the Bible? ME: The same as the first two all three are holidays thought up by heathen men. We are warned not to do as the heathens do. (Matthew 6:7)

Keyword: stay. Those who endure till the end, and keep walking in obedience to the Lord will be saved. God bless you all

So we are not saved yet I don't understand ​@@izraelservantofalmightygod

@@Slamsports8210 did you hear any of the revelations of hell? There are here on KZfaq as on the Touching the Afterlife channel. If you are curious, listen to these testimonies. People tell there they have seen Christians in hell. Christians who followed the Lord and for some reason stopped doing this. It is a stinging warning for all of us. God bless you

​@@izraelservantofalmightygodAmen....endure to the end, not fall away, return to vomit, fall from grace, separate oneself by sin

James isn't indicating earning salvation he is implying not many self proclaimed believers are not saved because without regeneration of the holyspirit he is doing the sanctifying work in your soul and spirit that brings evidence of working faith in a believer life that produces working out their salvation only the holy spirit does that produces fruit in genuine believer not self will or emotions un adulterated word of adonai that produces genuine fruit amen

2nd Thessalonians 1:8 breaks it down to 2 things: Know God and obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. The Ethiopian in Acts 8 responded to the good news of Jesus the way we need to also if we wish to follow Jesus. Mark 16:16. Acts 22:16.

Amen

Thank you.

You should really look up all the uses of the Greek word “believe”. Did you know every time it’s used towards man it’s “commit to” but every time it’s used towards us “believing in God” they translate it “believe”? Kinda makes things like this make more sense: ”Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes. Truly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all that he has. But if that servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and be drunk, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion *with the unbelievers.* And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.“ ‭‭Luke‬ ‭12‬:‭43‬-‭48‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ ”But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.“ ‭‭James‬ ‭3‬:‭14‬-‭18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ ”Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation-as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.“ ‭‭II Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭14‬-‭16‬ ‭NKJV

........ assuming that = "leave' means to die. =. since when we are saved by the Lord. [who is God of everything]. He 'keeps' what He claims ! IF they turn their back on the One who went to that cross to pay for their sins. =. they were NEVER saved at all ! They were pretenders ! see the Gospel of John ch.10 and verse 28 >. " and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, nether shall any man pick them out of my hand." Once they are Born Again it is sealed! One who is 'saved' IS Born Again ! They can't become 'UNborn' ~ if they 'leave' faith =. it translates to = never were genuinely 'born again' ! .......... that means = they still have the opportunity to belong to Him & be saved.

God is all knowing. He would not save you and give you his Holy Spirit and say oh no I made a mistake ! Lord please open this person’s heart to the truth of your Word. This is the record: God has given us eternal life. His life!

Revelation 3:5 ​@@deborahlucas1567

Amen. Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’

You are right in the sense that they remove themselves. No one can be deceived against their will without them giving it to the enemy.

@@TLA-ml2lg SO YOUR ADMITTING THAT ONE COULD LOOSE THEIR SALVATION.

@@bullheadedoldtimer1256a truly saved, reborn believer cannot lose their salvation. That would mean that God un-saved them and took the gifted holy spirit and saving faith back. So no. That would be him breaking his promises.

Yes, you can “fall away” in a limited sense. But if you’re truly saved and reborn, God has gifted you saving faith and the Holy Spirit. So no, you can not lose your salvation. You will not fall away COMPLETELY if you ever do start to fall. Falling away 100% would mean God is taking his gifts back and un-saving you. So no that is not possible.

what KIND of fight? if in the flesh you have already forsaken Christ for the LAW

The saved fight it, they love not that which they fight against. But the unsaved, love it, embraces it, they succumb and seek more.

@@onceamusician5408Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’. You ought to obey God, rather than man

Even saved we never fully shed the old man because of our sin nature. We may not sin like the old man we once were but the memories of depravity, sexual sin, etc. are always there. We shouldn’t romanticize them but they are still there. That personally bothers me. I hope those types of thought are blotted from memory once we’re in God’s Kingdom.

@@ronwilliams1094 Heaven; No more sickness, disease, or death. (no more sin) As time passes, it is likely that old memories, are replaced with new ones.

Yes I ve wondered about that. I do think people who once chose to believe can also chose not to believe. They harden their heart and turn from truly believing in Jesus.

But you also have to remember Matthew 7:21-23 to those who say Lord Lord have we not done mighty deeds in your name? And Jesus will reply that He never knew them. So in a lot of cases there are imposters who were false from the beginning. By the claims would seem to indicate false teachers who brag about their works and it is backed up by a lot more scripture. Like 2 Peter 2:3 and 2 Corinthians 11:13-15. And many other places that warn against wolves in sheep's clothing. Bible tells us to test the spirits and never take anything at face value. Jesus said we will know them by their fruits. Those who desire truth and study to know God's word won't be deceived. But hypocrites who don't sincerely seek God will be open to deception because they are on the enemy's legal ground.

@@TLA-ml2lg Yes, but that does not address the issue of apostasy. The Bible does not indicate that those who fall away in the last days of this age were phony believers like those in Matthew. 7. I believe there are many who will cry Lord lord and not enter into the kingdom as the word says. But the apostasy teaching from Paul in 2nd Thessalonians and in the book of Revelation does not imply that these were those people.

I agree. I hear so many people say they Believe they have Faith but I ask WHO is the judge, people or GOD? I go back to Hebrew 11 chapter the whole chapter which gives examples of faith. Looks like to me many have faith in them selves, God is the judge. He promised he will never leave us, never said we would not leave him.

And yet it does not say that they are damned to hell for their apostasy either. The power rests with GOD.

When do I lose it? And when I do, how do I get it back? This is HORRIBLE NEWS! Not good news?! What if I already lost His Grace? Maybe the Catholics get it? Maybe I need a confessional booth, and a Priest to ensure my sins are paid for with penance.

@@blacksheepbear6382 You now see why, at the 1619 Synod of Dort, "Conditional Security", as taught by the Followers of Jacobus Arminius, was Unanimously Condemned by over 100 of the Finest Theologians of the Time (Including the Ten Men who had Translated the King James Version of the Bible!) to be a Damnable. Heresy. It was also utterly Condemned as Damnable Heresy long afore Dort, as St. Augustine of Hippo has also Condemned "Conditional Security" , as taught by Pelagian and his Followers, as Damnable Heresy at the 419 Council of Carthage. For "Conditional Security" is indeed nothing but bad news that takes away all hope and all peace, and all assurance, and forces slave bondage to the Terrors of Rome and the Abrogated laws of Moses and of the false laws of the Pharisees! "Conditional Security" , and all who hold to it, are to be Rebuked, and those who hold to it are to be Commanded in Love to Repent and Believe the Gospel of Grace to be Saved.

@@blacksheepbear6382 Always read scripture and test what ANYONE says, even me. Jesus is our High Priest. Confess all to him daily and pray as often as possible for his guidance, strength and mercy. And keep focussed on God in deed, speech, and thoughts. Bring everything you know to be ungodly into submission and that’s how we follow. When I find myself annoyed or said or done something ungodly I immediately feel remorse and ask, father forgive me and give me strength. Jesus taught that his Holy Spirit keeps us in check and we will know when we’ve grieved him as he convicts us, through our conscience. That we’ve done or said something unholy. He forgives when we ask. When Jesus died the veil in the temple tore in two! That’s because only high priests were allowed behind there to take blood sacrifices once a year to ask that the people are forgiven. But Jesus fulfilled all the law and now he is our heavenly priest, good shepherd, who forgives as often as we ask. He is loving and merciful and loves those who are broken hearted and ‘seek’ righteousness. It’s a relationship. Where man finds it hard to forgive us first things, Jesus forgives instantly when we pray for it. And the fact you are worried shows that you have the fear of the LORD which is the beginning of wisdom. So you need not be afraid or let your heart be troubled. He came to save us, not condemn us. His disciples made many mistakes, doubted, denied him, argued who was greatest. They’re human like us. It’s all about seeking and wanting to be righteous daily. One day at a time is all we have and each day Jesus is there to guide us and his spirit to teach us lovingly. I hope that helps. We are all struggling and Jesus knows our hearts and pain. Our Father just wants us home with him one day and to not give up and to keep praying, seeking and trying. 🙏🏼🕊️💞

The many in the last days ; there will be many that mix their faith with the world. They will not have saving faith but they will be hit by the great delusion that God sends upon all people. True faith in Christ will see it and will turn away from the Antichrist and follow Jesus no matter what happens.

Amen. We can’t become proud in Our salvation . We need to daily pick up our cross and , be in the living Word and prayer daily . Meditate on His Word day and night.

You can walk away as much as you want, You are his forever! That was the contract of his salvation, his gift! He might kill your flesh early tho lol

Unbelievers walk away. Not true Christians. For it is the Holy Spirit of God who He has sealed us with; that keeps us doing His will. The glory is always to God

They wont listen . They have itching ears.

I agree 100% - With this logic, you can then say "well, now that I am saved I can go out and murder people or have orgies or be whatever sin and rub God's nose in it and I can stop praying or having anything to do with Jesus and not fear God or his wrath because I am saved... this is completely illogical and the only people jumping on this thought are people who continue to sin vs repenting of sins.

@@truckstopcowboytruckstopco5639 -The angels lost their salvation (2 Peter 2:4), the people in the wilderness lost their salvation, they never got to go to the Promised Land (a parallel intimating Heaven)..that is an example for us to understand that we can lose our salvation just as they did and we will not make it to the Promised Land of Heaven but instead we will be cast in with the one we followed in hell, because we disobeyed God and His commands to repent and live a holy life. -The angels lost their salvation by following Satan when he fell, people are less than the angels of heaven. 2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; ---Neither their former rank as angels of Heaven, their dignity, nor their being in Heaven, saved them from being thrust down to hell, and if God punished them so severely, how do you think that you can't lose your salvation and be thrust to hell with the angels that sinned. We are referring to angels in heaven that were truly holy and saved but due to falling into sin they lost their salvation and were thrust into hell. According to God's Word, You can lose your salvation...don't be deceived by the lies of Satan and these false prophets. Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. -Satan was an angel that had salvation in Heaven, until he fell, he was saved until, because of unbelief he sinned..fell and lost his salvation. An angel of God that is truly saved can fall and lose their salvation is a very implicit warning to us that we should be watchful against our own fall 1Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. -This earth on which we live, where men both stand and fall; and the best are subject to failing, being sons of Adam as well as sons of God; partly flesh and partly spirit. -The vigilancy required in order to our standing, Take heed. -How many thousands have fallen by a presumptuous confidence of their own strength in standing! they fell by thinking it impossible to fall. 2 Peter 3:7 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. Romans11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Romans11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. --The Lord is with a people only whilst they are with him; if they serve and seek him, he will be found of them; but if they forsake him, he will cast them off for ever.( See Hebrews 10:26) Hebrews 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. Hebrews 3:11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) Hebrews 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. Hebrews 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. Hebrews 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; Hebrews 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? Hebrews 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? Hebrews 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief. -Unbelief was their sin, they did not believe God and did not do as He required. They did not believe the commands that God gave them, not to do certain things and to do other things a certain way. -Unbelief that we have to do our part …(work out our salvation with fear and trembling -Philippians 2:12) 1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. -And the unbelief that we don’t have to do anything but believe, have faith, James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? -So if you just believe as the devils and do not have repentance, reformation of life, change of heart, purifying self as He is pure to back that belief/faith up, then you will spend eternity with the devils that just believe. -They lost their salvation because of unbelief of what is required of the people..Obedience, purifying self, working out our own salvation with fear and trembling..works required by God that must accompany faith… “But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”.. -Unbelief that nothing more is required than to believe is how they lost their salvation and it is how many others will lose their salvation and will not go to the rest of the promised land of God, Heaven but will instead be told by God..

I know buying into this doctrine comes from a hardened heart but I’m going to pray for you and hope you let the words of our Lord Jesus Christ sink in. ”Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes. Truly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all that he has. But if that servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and be drunk, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion *with the unbelievers.* And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.“ ‭‭Luke‬ ‭12‬:‭43‬-‭48‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ ”But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.“ ‭‭James‬ ‭3‬:‭14‬-‭18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ ”Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation-as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.“ ‭‭II Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭14‬-‭16‬ ‭NKJV

According to God's Word, You can lose your salvation...don't be deceived by the lies of Satan. 1Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. This earth on which we live, where men both stand and fall; and the best are subject to failing, being sons of Adam as well as sons of God; partly flesh and partly spirit. -The vigilancy required in order to our standing, Take heed. -How many thousands have fallen by a presumptuous confidence of their own strength in standing! they fell by thinking it impossible to fall. Romans11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Romans11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. --The Lord is with a people only whilst they are with him; if they serve and seek him, he will be found of them; but if they forsake him, he will cast them off for ever.( See Hebrews 10:26) Hebrews 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Hebrews 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Hebrews 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. 2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 2 Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. -----Woe to those that relapse from God to the world, from truth to error, from grace to vice; their latter end will be worse than their beginning, if they do not recover themselves again by timely repentance, they will be cast into the lake of fire with the rest of the wicked, no matter what their previous profession.

Right, the great sin of presumption.

Trusting in the things we do (works based) for Salvation = unsaved Trusting in Christ Jesus not ourselves for Salvation = saved

The words you don't want to hear from Jesus..Depart from me worker of iniquity I never knew you

​@@davidreed6264God tells us our sins an iniquities he rembers no more he is not lying to us believers are no longer that new spirit same sinful flesh the new man in me knows no sin but the flesh still sins daily why were so blessed to have Christ to cleanse us an forgive use an be that advocate for us with the father he thankfully that in day you die you'll have Christ standing next to you before the father being your advocate because one sin or thousand they all bring same punishment without christ

@@TheClimbingBronyOldColt That's too simply for some in this chat, lol Oh well let them work for his salvation.

All Glory to God

No one in their right mind would ever do that! We are (our soul)preserved and sealed in Christ Jesus

And God hates divorce and abortion. And you are actually accusing him of doing that to us that are betrothed to him and have been born again

@deborahlucas1567 so you mean to tell me the bible says nothing about people falling away from the faith? You need to read and study the bible and pray for the Holy Spirit to teach you.

Our free will is limited: one is either a slave to sin or a slave to the Lord, our Master!

Your free will has nothing to do with your soul being secured in christ, for you didn't save yourself in the first place and you aren't keeping yourself saved, Christ said he shall lose none the father has given him

@christian4ever1962 . . That was a beautiful picture of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Amen!! *IF* is a conditional statement!

How can you not walk away from your child when he or she becomes a monster?

And all praise be unto Him, forever and ever, for ever.

Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’ you ought to obey God, rather than man

How much obedience is enough to be saved I'm being sincer​e here not kidding@@KallyKafritsas

@@Slamsports8210 Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul. Love your neighbor as yourself, and love your enemies also. Repent (change of mind regarding sin), believe and trust in God (that He will and have saved you), and you are saved. Acts 16:31 Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household. There is no need to keep the old law, for Jesus fulfilled it. We need not keep the ten commandments perfectly, to enter Heaven. Matthew 22:37 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. Matthew 22:39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Matthew 5:43-45 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

According to God's Word, You can lose your salvation...don't be deceived by the lies of Satan and these false prophets. 1Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. This earth on which we live, where men both stand and fall; and the best are subject to failing, being sons of Adam as well as sons of God; partly flesh and partly spirit. -The vigilancy required in order to our standing, Take heed. -How many thousands have fallen by a presumptuous confidence of their own strength in standing! they fell by thinking it impossible to fall. Romans11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Romans11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. --The Lord is with a people only whilst they are with him; if they serve and seek him, he will be found of them; but if they forsake him, he will cast them off for ever.( See Hebrews 10:26) Hebrews 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Hebrews 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Hebrews 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. 2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 2 Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. -----Woe to those that relapse from God to the world, from truth to error, from grace to vice; their latter end will be worse than their beginning, if they do not recover themselves again by timely repentance, they will be cast into the lake of fire with the rest of the wicked, no matter what their previous profession.

”But if that servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and be drunk, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and *will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.* And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.“ ‭‭Luke‬ ‭12‬:‭45‬-‭48‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ ”“I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’-and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked- I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.“ ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭3‬:‭15‬-‭18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Interjection: You will go to the suffering side of Sheol, and then to Gehenna.

Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’ Damnable OSAS devil doctrine says, NO Jesus, we Refuse to count the cost, ‘we just believe’ (like the demons) we Refuse to pick up our cross Daily, we Refuse to suffer and serve you. That is a Burden to us. We live like the world, we do as we will. Blatant Blasphemy

​Umm demons don't believe in Jesus meaning they don't put their trust in Jesus for salvation, and also peter was saved already when he denied Jesus three times are you telling me he lost his salvation there? And btw counting the cost is not equal to living the cost no one i mean no one will live the cost that our Lord Jesus lived , is this how you are preaching the gospel to your neighbor who don't know christ? Listen you do not become a spiritual giant the day you got saved ok judah didnt believe Jesus, Jesus himself said that if you think you obey Jesus by your own strength you'll just fail . God bless@@KallyKafritsas

@@Slamsports8210 OSAS is Unbiblical devil doctrine. OSAS 'just believe' and NOTHING, like the demons. Titus 1:16 OSAS are lazy, lukewarm, Abominable, Disobedeient Reprobates

Whenever we sin we are to repent because there is no forgiveness without repentance.

But they don’t want to believe in God to transform them so they heap up for themselves teachers who will tend to their itching ears. Voddie did a great job preaching until he stopped reading the word of God and went to his own human reasoning.

Yes, great Sermon indeed.

All Glory to God

God is trying to restore what was lost, his image. Adam sinned and God took out his spirit, and we became selfish. So born again is getting back the spirit, the helper. So you can shine in a dark world and people will see your light, which is him in you. But ask for the spirit Luke 11:13 won't God give the spirit to those who ask? We don't lay hands anymore. You can feel him, if you've got him. A frequency, and he spies on you daily.

No.

You should really get born again for real then. Read the word of God because these teachings are from the pits of hell.

Amen. It's a lifestyle that honors God 🙏🏾

WE are saved by BELIVING JESUS CHRIST ONLY...... READ JOHN CH 3 VS 16 Jesus Christ period this man is a false teacger HE mixes LORDSHIP SALVATION WITH GRACE THREW FAITH ALONE

God's Word says we can lose your salvation…Don't be deceived by the lies of Satan and these false prophets. ***The angels lost their salvation (2 Peter 2:4), the people in the wilderness lost their salvation, they never got to go to the Promised Land (a parallel intimating Heaven)..these are examples for us to be warned that we can lose our salvation just as they did and we will not make it to the Promised Land of Heaven but instead we will be cast in with the one we followed in hell, because we disobeyed God and His commands to repent and live a holy life. ***The angels lost their salvation by following Satan when he fell, people are less than the angels of heaven. 2 Peter 2:4 For if GOD SPARED NOT THE ANGELS THAT SINNED, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; ***Neither their former rank as holy angels of Heaven, their dignity, nor their being in Heaven, saved them from being thrust down to hell, and if God punished them so severely, how do you think that you can't lose your salvation and be thrust to hell with the fallen angels that sinned. The word of God is referring to angels in heaven that were truly holy and saved but due to falling into sin they lost their salvation and were thrust into hell. In the presence of an holy God, is no place for unholy persons. ***Before these fallen angels came out of the presence of God, they were holy; and being holy, they were beloved of God; else he hated the image of his own spotless purity. But now he loves them no more; they are doomed to endless destruction. (for if he loved them still, he would love what is sinful:) and both his former love, and his present righteous and eternal displeasure towards the same work of his own hands, are because he changes not; because he invariably loves righteousness, and hates iniquity. Jude 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, HOW THAT THE LORD, HAVING SAVED THE PEOPLE OUT OF the land of Egypt, AFTERWARD DESTROYED THEM that believed not. Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, ARE SET FORTH FOR AN EXAMPLE, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. *** SAVED THE PEOPLE - Delivered them from the Egyptian bondage (intimating the bondage of sin). ***AFTERWARD DESTROYED THEM - Because they neither believed his word, nor were obedient to his commands. Let none therefore presume upon past mercies, as if he was now out of danger. ***The destruction of the Israelites, of the inhabitants of Sodom, and of the angels that sinned, is recorded for the warning of sinners in all ages, and to show that however great the blessings men may enjoy, if they continue in sin, or reject the gospel, they will inevitably and awfully perish forever losing their salvation. ***The Israelites in the wilderness; as they perished through unbelief, after they were brought out of Egypt, so shall revolters perish, notwithstanding their baptism, and fair beginnings. As those who had been delivered from Egypt were afterward destroyed for their unbelief (sin), or as the mere fact of their being rescued did not prevent destruction from coming on them, so the fact that these persons were saved to be delivered from sin, and had become professed followers of God, would not prevent their being destroyed if they afterward led wicked, sinful lives. ***They first were saved, delivered from sin; then second, they were destroyed because of their sin of unbelief that God said not to sin. They thought that they could do what they wanted and live contrary to God’s way because HE had saved them previously, they justifying themselves in their sins suffered the loss of that precious salvation and never entered into God’s rest (promise land). Destroyed them that believed not. That is, on account of their unbelief, returning to sin, living in sin. They were not permitted to enter the promised land, but were cut off in the wilderness. Just as if we continue to sin or go back to sin, we “ALSO SHALT BE CUT OFF” - Romans 11:22..meaning you will lose your salvation, will not enter into God’s rest in Heaven, will not be saved from the burning torments of hell. ***Unbelief will as certainly bring destruction upon Christians now, as it did upon the Israelites of old. Did God destroy them that believed not his commands then? no less will he destroy them that believe not his commands now. ***After having been called by God, we ought not to glory carelessly in his grace, but on the contrary, to walk watchfully in his fear; for if any trifles thus with God, the contempt of his grace will not be unpunished. And this he proves by three examples in His word given through Jude. He first refers to the vengeance which God executed on those unbelievers, whom he had chosen as his people, and delivered by his power. Nearly the same reference is made by Paul in the tenth chapter of the First Epistle to the Corinthians. The import of what he says is, that those whom God had honored with the greatest blessings, whom he had extolled to the same degree of honor as we enjoy at this day, he afterwards severely punished. Then in vain were all they proud of God’s grace, who did not live in a manner suitable to their calling. ***The word people is by way of honor taken for the holy and chosen nation, as though he had said that it availed them nothing, that they by a singular favor had been taken into covenant. ***By calling them unbelieving, he denotes the fountain of all evils; for all their sins, mentioned by Moses, were owing to this, because they refused to be ruled by God’s word. For where there is the subjection of faith, there obedience towards God necessarily appears in all the duties of life. ***Suffering the vengeance of eternal fire; they were cast into endless perdition with the devil and his angels. Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. ***Satan was an angel that had salvation in Heaven, until he fell, he was saved until, because of unbelief he sinned..fell and lost his salvation. An angel of God that is truly saved can fall and lose their salvation is a very implicit warning to us that we should be watchful against our own fall Hosea 4:3 Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away. Hosea 4:5 Therefore shalt thou FALL in the day, and the prophet also shall FALL with thee in the night, and I WILL DESTROY thy mother. Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I ALSO WILL REJECT THEE 1Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL. ***This earth on which we live, where men both stand and fall; and the best are subject to failing, being sons of Adam as well as sons of God; partly flesh and partly spirit. -The vigilancy required in order to our standing, Take heed. -How many thousands have fallen by a presumptuous confidence of their own strength in standing! they fell by thinking it impossible to fall.

You can lose salvation, I did , you got to follow God the rest of your life

You cannot lose Salvation. Jesus said that He will say; 'I never knew you.', and not "knew you at some point".

@@TheClimbingBronyOldColtThe angels kept Not their first estate, having Left their own habitation. And God having SAVED the people out of the land of Egypt, Afterwards Destroyed them that believed not. In the latter times, Many shall DEPART from the faith

@@KallyKafritsas There was people gathered, sitting, listening, once fed, they left and very few remained. People can intellectually know about faith, and just up and leave, but very few people does know God intimately, savingly. I stand by my words, and angels are different from humans.

@@TheClimbingBronyOldColt One of the pillars of the Protestant Reformation was Martin Luther’s belief that we are saved by faith alone. All one had to do was to profess a belief in Christ and he would be saved for all eternity. Anything he might do from that point on would have no effect on it. Luther once wrote: “No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day”. Luther’s novel teaching was in stark contrast to what we find in Scripture. The apostle Paul clearly believed that salvation, once achieved, could be lost. He affirms this when writing to the church at Corinth: “But you yourselves wrong and defraud, and that even your own brethren. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor the idolaters, nor the adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:8-10). It is important to note that Paul was talking to a group of Christians. In other words, He was talking to people who Martin Luther would say were saved. And yet Paul is warning them about losing their salvation. Jesus Himself made the same point when He addressed the Church at Ephesus: “Realize how far you have fallen. Repent, and do the works you did at first. Otherwise, I will come to you and remove your lamp stand from its place” (Revelation 2:5). The lamp stand is symbolic of Christ’s presence. To have your lamp stand removed is to be separated from Christ. That they had a lamp stand to remove indicates that they were at one point, “in Christ” (2 Corinthians 5:17). Jesus’ command to repent is a warning that they must once again abide in Him. And as we are told in John 15:4-6 we must abide in Him or be cast forth like a branch and be burned. Earlier in 1 Corinthians Paul allows for the possibility that even he might not be saved. He wrote: It is required of stewards that they be found trustworthy. But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you or by any human court. I do not even judge myself. I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore, do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then every man will receive his commendation from God (1 Corinthians 4:2-5). Paul points out that it is God who pronounces judgment. And he takes the extra step to tell others not to pronounce judgment. That means you can never definitively say that a person is damned or saved. Only God can make that judgment. Paul also said: “Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. Well, I do not run aimlessly, I do not box as one beating the air, but I pommel my body and subdue it lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified” (1 Corinthians 9:25-27). I do not think that anyone would argue with the fact that Paul is a Christian at this point. And yet in this passage he tells us that he can lose his salvation. The reason why Paul, or any Christian for that matter, can lose their salvation is because even after accepting Christ a person is still capable of sinning and remaining unrepentant. And as we saw above (Revelation 2:5) repentance is necessary for forgiveness. Apostasy is another way that salvation can be lost: For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they then commit apostasy, since they crucify the Son of God on their own account and hold Him up to contempt. For land which has drunk the rain that often falls upon it, and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near being cursed; its end is to be burned (Hebrews 6:4-8). Protestants will point to several verses of Scripture which appear to bolster their argument. For instance: He who has the Son has life; he who has not the Son of God has not life. I write this to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life (1 John 5:12-13). My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand (John 10:29). In the first reading John tells us that he who has the Son has eternal life. And of course, this raises the question; who are the ones who have the Son? John himself answers that question; those who remain in Him have the Son (John 6:57). He also says that those who believe in Jesus have eternal life. Consequently, those who do not believe do not have eternal life. To believe in Jesus is to believe in what He taught. When asked what was necessary for salvation Jesus replied, obey the commandments, and give to the poor (Mark 1017-22). As for John 10:29; It is true, no one can snatch the saved from the Father’s hand. However, if we have free will we can voluntarily jump out of the Father’s hand. And that is just the point we saw illustrated earlier in the readings from 1 Corinthians and Ephesians. James makes the case even stronger: My brothers, if anyone among you should stray from the truth and someone bring him back, he should know that whoever brings back a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins (James 5:19-20). Abide in the truth, your saved. Stray from the truth, your condemned. Brought back to the truth, your saved. Another argument used to support the Protestant view comes from John 6:39 which reads: “and this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me but raise it up at the last day.” And so, the reasoning goes, one who is saved is given to Jesus. Thus, if anyone who has been given to Jesus is subsequently lost it would mean that the will of God had not been realized. Since God is all powerful that could never happen. Hence, once someone is saved, they are always saved. But this is based on a misunderstanding of the nature of God’s will. There are three aspects of God’s will. First there is what some would call God’s Executive will. He says: “let there be light” and without the slightest hesitation there is light. God is all powerful and it simply cannot be any other way. Then there is God’s permissive will. This would involve His allowing bad things to happen. And this is usually the result of our bad choices. Lastly there is God’s active will. This would involve those things that God desires for us. God only desires good things for us. But He does not force them on us. He loves us, and He wants us to love Him. Only someone with free will can choose to love God. Once we accept God our free will is not taken away. One who can choose to love can also choose not to love. Just as it is the will of God that Jesus not lose one that is given to Him, so it is also the will of God that all men be saved (1 Timothy 2:4). And yet we know that most people will choose hell. Jesus Himself tells us this: “Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few (Matthew 7:13-14).” Is this a failure on God’s part? No, it is a failure on the part of those who have rejected God’s offer. Salvation can also be lost if we neglect to do that which God calls us to. While faith is certainly a vital element in achieving salvation, it is also true that our faith must be evident in our actions. The book of James is very clear on this: What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him? If a brother or sister is ill-clad and in lack of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what does it profit? So, faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead (James 2:14-17). I have said it before, but it bears repeating, the works that lead to salvation are not the product of our own intrinsic goodness. They are accomplished by the power (grace) of God. A failure to do good works is a rejection of God’s grace. And that brings us back to our original question; can salvation be lost? It most certainly can be lost. And it will be lost when, at any point, a Christian rejects God’s grace and remains unrepentant.

You ought to obey God, rather than man. Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’

Amen. OSAS is Damnable devil doctrine. Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’

Finally someone who gets it Revelation 3:5 NKJV He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

Well said!!! Amen!

Not by works of righteousness thst we have done but according to his mercy he saved us by the washing of regeneration . We weren’t saved by works and we don’t stay saved by works. It’s all his doing! We receive by faith. And he who began a good work in us is faithful to complete it. God is all knowing. He wouldn’t save you, seal you with his Holy Spirit and say oh no. I made a mistake. I pray the Lord helps you see that you are saying that his blood was not sufficient .

@@deborahlucas1567 You are sadly mistaken, please see the previous comments and scripture that confirms that your name can be removed from the book of life. You must surrender your life and follow the lords commandments, if you love Him. Saved by grace arguments are not any reason whatsoever to accept any form of sin in your life. Jesus said “Go and sin no more” also, “be ye therefore perfect, as my Father is in Heaven”. Please don’t lean on your own understanding and follow the Holy Sprit in everything that you do. That’s the only way to be sure you are living according to the Lords will.

The holy spirit is the proof. Do you physically feel him? Ask for him we don't lay hands anymore.. Luke 11:13 won't God give the spirit to those who ask?

H E Y. check what God tells us in His Holy Word !!! I KNOW CHRIST TOOK THE PUNISHMENT FOR MY SINS ON THAT CROSS and I trust HIM completely to keep all He. promises !!! Check the Scriptures = salvation is NOT based on our stupid 'works'. =. His Precious BLOOD COVERS IT ALL ! He tells us "NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, BUT ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY HE SAVED BY THE WASHING OF REGENERATION AND THE RENEWING OF THE HOLY GHOST." TITUS 3: 5.

An Christ must be lying all us when he says harh know yea have eternal life

-The angels lost their salvation (2 Peter 2:4), the people in the wilderness lost their salvation, they never got to go to the Promised Land (a parallel intimating Heaven)..that is an example for us to understand that we can lose our salvation just as they did and we will not make it to the Promised Land of Heaven but instead we will be cast in with the one we followed in hell, because we disobeyed God and His commands to repent and live a holy life. -The angels lost their salvation by following Satan when he fell, people are less than the angels of heaven. 2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; ---Neither their former rank as angels of Heaven, their dignity, nor their being in Heaven, saved them from being thrust down to hell, and if God punished them so severely, how do you think that you can't lose your salvation and be thrust to hell with the angels that sinned. We are referring to angels in heaven that were truly holy and saved but due to falling into sin they lost their salvation and were thrust into hell. According to God's Word, You can lose your salvation...don't be deceived by the lies of Satan and these false prophets. Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. -Satan was an angel that had salvation in Heaven, until he fell, he was saved until, because of unbelief he sinned..fell and lost his salvation. An angel of God that is truly saved can fall and lose their salvation is a very implicit warning to us that we should be watchful against our own fall 1Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. -This earth on which we live, where men both stand and fall; and the best are subject to failing, being sons of Adam as well as sons of God; partly flesh and partly spirit. -The vigilancy required in order to our standing, Take heed. -How many thousands have fallen by a presumptuous confidence of their own strength in standing! they fell by thinking it impossible to fall. 2 Peter 3:7 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. Romans11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Romans11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. --The Lord is with a people only whilst they are with him; if they serve and seek him, he will be found of them; but if they forsake him, he will cast them off for ever.( See Hebrews 10:26) Hebrews 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. Hebrews 3:11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) Hebrews 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. Hebrews 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. Hebrews 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; Hebrews 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? Hebrews 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? Hebrews 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief. -Unbelief was their sin, they did not believe God and did not do as He required. They did not believe the commands that God gave them, not to do certain things and to do other things a certain way. -Unbelief that we have to do our part …(work out our salvation with fear and trembling -Philippians 2:12) 1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. -And the unbelief that we don’t have to do anything but believe, have faith, James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? -So if you just believe as the devils and do not have repentance, reformation of life, change of heart, purifying self as He is pure to back that belief/faith up, then you will spend eternity with the devils that just believe. -They lost their salvation because of unbelief of what is required of the people..Obedience, purifying self, working out our own salvation with fear and trembling..works required by God that must accompany faith… “But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”.. -Unbelief that nothing more is required than to believe is how they lost their salvation and it is how many others will lose their salvation and will not go to the rest of the promised land of God, Heaven but will instead be told by God..

According to God's Word, You can lose your salvation...don't be deceived by the lies of Satan. 1Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. This earth on which we live, where men both stand and fall; and the best are subject to failing, being sons of Adam as well as sons of God; partly flesh and partly spirit. -The vigilancy required in order to our standing, Take heed. -How many thousands have fallen by a presumptuous confidence of their own strength in standing! they fell by thinking it impossible to fall. Romans11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Romans11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. --The Lord is with a people only whilst they are with him; if they serve and seek him, he will be found of them; but if they forsake him, he will cast them off for ever.( See Hebrews 10:26) Hebrews 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Hebrews 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Hebrews 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. 2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 2 Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. -----Woe to those that relapse from God to the world, from truth to error, from grace to vice; their latter end will be worse than their beginning, if they do not recover themselves again by timely repentance, they will be cast into the lake of fire with the rest of the wicked, no matter what their previous profession.

That's what they are talking about. A genuine Christian cannot lose his salvation.

@@21stCenturyRevival yes if you were elected, if God giving you genuine, faith, genuine repentance, a genuine heart to love him then you will never lose your salvation even if you fall off the path, he will go get you, but I started out with so many people with me, not believed in Jesus and decades later so few remain only a few had that real life born again spiritual experience real faith never goes back. Will follow Christ to the end.

@@MMAGUY13OSAS is Damnable devil doctrine. Many shall DEPART from the Faith. Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’

These teachings are from the pit of hell, made to comfort insincere unbelieving Christians in their sin. They believe Jesus was crucified and was raised but don’t believe in Him to crucify their flesh. Read Luke 12 and Matthew 25.

It says in the end times people will leave the faith, apostosy falling away.

Then you don’t believe the true gospel.

@@sonofagunn1967 what is a backslider??

@@1greyhair504 well, it’s not a biblical term. That’s what it’s not. So, if it’s not a biblical term, I don’t feel the need to address it. Because what we are talking about is what is biblical and what isn’t.

@@sonofagunn1967 then what's the biblical term for turning back to your old ways??

​@1greyhair504 bud we are inherently evil, wicked, and opposed to god. So much so that we can't even seek God on our own. It's up to the spirit to do it for us! it's like vodi said bro. If you where able to lose it you would. Backsliders are the seeds scattered on the path, the rocky soil, and the weeds and brambles. They never where saved.

Amen! OSAS is Damnable devil doctrine. Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’ God bless you greatly

Amen! Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’

Jesus did not say salvation is a process. Eternal life is a free gift, Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Discipleship and service is a process but not to be saved. He clearly said if you believe in Him, you have eternal life right at that moment. Not go through some manmade process you made up. It is not about what you do but what Jesus did. John 3 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. ... 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 5:24 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 6:47 47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. John 11 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? 27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world. 1 John 5 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’

But you have to ask for him Luke 11:13 won't God give the spirit to those who ask?

@@KallyKafritsas YEAH! HE PAID THE PRICE FOR YOUR SINS ON THE CROSS !

@@carolmartin2503 So you do NOTHING. like a dog you return to your own Vomit

You are like a dog that returns to your own Vomit

Christ's righteousness is imputed onto us, and God loves us so much, He will help us become more conformed to us which is sanctification. But yes, belief in Christ - faith in Him and His grace IS enough. The devils do believe God exists but they don't have faith in Him, period. Works do not save - Ephesians 2:8,9

Amen!

You ought to obey God rather than man. OSAS is Damnable devil doctrine. Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’

Satan messing with your head putting doubt in your mind

One of the pillars of the Protestant Reformation was Martin Luther’s belief that we are saved by faith alone. All one had to do was to profess a belief in Christ and he would be saved for all eternity. Anything he might do from that point on would have no effect on it. Luther once wrote: “No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day". Luther’s novel teaching was in stark contrast to what we find in Scripture. The apostle Paul clearly believed that salvation, once achieved, could be lost. He affirms this when writing to the church at Corinth: “But you yourselves wrong and defraud, and that even your own brethren. Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor the idolaters, nor the adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:8-10). It is important to note that Paul was talking to a group of Christians. In other words, He was talking to people who Martin Luther would say were saved. And yet Paul is warning them about losing their salvation. Jesus Himself made the same point when He addressed the Church at Ephesus: “Realize how far you have fallen. Repent, and do the works you did at first. Otherwise, I will come to you and remove your lamp stand from its place” (Revelation 2:5). The lamp stand is symbolic of Christ’s presence. To have your lamp stand removed is to be separated from Christ. That they had a lamp stand to remove indicates that they were at one point, “in Christ” (2 Corinthians 5:17). Jesus’ command to repent is a warning that they must once again abide in Him. And as we are told in John 15:4-6 we must abide in Him or be cast forth like a branch and be burned. Earlier in 1 Corinthians Paul allows for the possibility that even he might not be saved. He wrote: It is required of stewards that they be found trustworthy. But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you or by any human court. I do not even judge myself. I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore, do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then every man will receive his commendation from God (1 Corinthians 4:2-5). Paul points out that it is God who pronounces judgment. And he takes the extra step to tell others not to pronounce judgment. That means you can never definitively say that a person is damned or saved. Only God can make that judgment. Paul also said: “Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. Well, I do not run aimlessly, I do not box as one beating the air, but I pommel my body and subdue it lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified” (1 Corinthians 9:25-27). I do not think that anyone would argue with the fact that Paul is a Christian at this point. And yet in this passage he tells us that he can lose his salvation. The reason why Paul, or any Christian for that matter, can lose their salvation is because even after accepting Christ a person is still capable of sinning and remaining unrepentant. And as we saw above (Revelation 2:5) repentance is necessary for forgiveness. Apostasy is another way that salvation can be lost: For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they then commit apostasy, since they crucify the Son of God on their own account and hold Him up to contempt. For land which has drunk the rain that often falls upon it, and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near being cursed; its end is to be burned (Hebrews 6:4-8). Protestants will point to several verses of Scripture which appear to bolster their argument. For instance: He who has the Son has life; he who has not the Son of God has not life. I write this to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life (1 John 5:12-13). My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand (John 10:29). In the first reading John tells us that he who has the Son has eternal life. And of course, this raises the question; who are the ones who have the Son? John himself answers that question; those who remain in Him have the Son (John 6:57). He also says that those who believe in Jesus have eternal life. Consequently, those who do not believe do not have eternal life. To believe in Jesus is to believe in what He taught. When asked what was necessary for salvation Jesus replied, obey the commandments, and give to the poor (Mark 1017-22). As for John 10:29; It is true, no one can snatch the saved from the Father’s hand. However, if we have free will we can voluntarily jump out of the Father’s hand. And that is just the point we saw illustrated earlier in the readings from 1 Corinthians and Ephesians. James makes the case even stronger: My brothers, if anyone among you should stray from the truth and someone bring him back, he should know that whoever brings back a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins (James 5:19-20). Abide in the truth, your saved. Stray from the truth, your condemned. Brought back to the truth, your saved. Another argument used to support the Protestant view comes from John 6:39 which reads: “and this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me but raise it up at the last day.” And so, the reasoning goes, one who is saved is given to Jesus. Thus, if anyone who has been given to Jesus is subsequently lost it would mean that the will of God had not been realized. Since God is all powerful that could never happen. Hence, once someone is saved, they are always saved. But this is based on a misunderstanding of the nature of God’s will. There are three aspects of God’s will. First there is what some would call God’s Executive will. He says: “let there be light” and without the slightest hesitation there is light. God is all powerful and it simply cannot be any other way. Then there is God’s permissive will. This would involve His allowing bad things to happen. And this is usually the result of our bad choices. Lastly there is God’s active will. This would involve those things that God desires for us. God only desires good things for us. But He does not force them on us. He loves us, and He wants us to love Him. Only someone with free will can choose to love God. Once we accept God our free will is not taken away. One who can choose to love can also choose not to love. Just as it is the will of God that Jesus not lose one that is given to Him, so it is also the will of God that all men be saved (1 Timothy 2:4). And yet we know that most people will choose hell. Jesus Himself tells us this: “Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few (Matthew 7:13-14).” Is this a failure on God’s part? No, it is a failure on the part of those who have rejected God’s offer. Salvation can also be lost if we neglect to do that which God calls us to. While faith is certainly a vital element in achieving salvation, it is also true that our faith must be evident in our actions. The book of James is very clear on this: What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him? If a brother or sister is ill-clad and in lack of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what does it profit? So, faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead (James 2:14-17). I have said it before, but it bears repeating, the works that lead to salvation are not the product of our own intrinsic goodness. They are accomplished by the power (grace) of God. A failure to do good works is a rejection of God’s grace. And that brings us back to our original question; can salvation be lost? It most certainly can be lost. And it will be lost when, at any point, a Christian rejects God’s grace and remains unrepentant.

***The angels lost their salvation (2 Peter 2:4), the people in the wilderness lost their salvation, they never got to go to the Promised Land (a parallel intimating Heaven)..that is an example for us to understand that we can lose our salvation just as they did and we will not make it to the Promised Land of Heaven but instead we will be cast in with the one we followed in hell, because we disobeyed God and His commands to repent and live a holy life. ***The angels lost their salvation by following Satan when he fell, people are less than the angels of heaven. 2 Peter 2:4 For if GOD SPARED NOT THE ANGELS THAT SINNED, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; ***Neither their former rank as angels of Heaven, their dignity, nor their being in Heaven, saved them from being thrust down to hell, and if God punished them so severely, how do you think that you can't lose your salvation and be thrust to hell with the angels that sinned. The word of God is referring to angels in heaven that were truly holy and saved but due to falling into sin they lost their salvation and were thrust into hell. Jude 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, HOW THAT THE LORD, HAVING SAVED THE PEOPLE OUT OF the land of Egypt, AFTERWARD DESTROYED THEM that believed not. Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, ARE SET FORTH FOR AN EXAMPLE, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. *** SAVED THE PEOPLE - Delivered them from the Egyptian bondage (intimating the bondage of sin). ***AFTERWARD DESTROYED THEM - Because they neither believed his word, nor were obedient to his commands. Let none therefore presume upon past mercies, as if he was now out of danger. ***The Israelites in the wilderness; as they perished through unbelief, after they were brought out of Egypt, so shall revolters perish, notwithstanding their baptism, and fair beginnings. As those who had been delivered from Egypt were afterward destroyed for their unbelief (sin), or as the mere fact of their being rescued did not prevent destruction from coming on them, so the fact that these persons were saved to be delivered from sin, and had become professed followers of God, would not prevent their being destroyed if they afterward led wicked, sinful lives. ***They first were saved, delivered from sin; then second, they were destroyed because of their sin of unbelief that God said not to sin. They thought that they could do what they wanted and live contrary to God’s way because HE had saved them previously, they justifying themselves in their sins suffered the loss of that precious salvation and never entered into God’s rest (promise land). Destroyed them that believed not. That is, on account of their unbelief, returning to sin, living in sin. They were not permitted to enter the promised land, but were cut off in the wilderness. Just as if we continue to sin or go back to sin, we “ALSO SHALT BE CUT OFF” - Romans 11:22..meaning you will lose your salvation, will not enter into God’s rest in Heaven, will not be saved from the burning torments of hell. ***Unbelief will as certainly bring destruction upon Christians now, as it did upon the Israelites of old. Did God destroy them that believed not his commands then? no less will he destroy them that believe not his commands now. ***After having been called by God, we ought not to glory carelessly in his grace, but on the contrary, to walk watchfully in his fear; for if any trifles thus with God, the contempt of his grace will not be unpunished. And this he proves by three examples in His word given through Jude. He first refers to the vengeance which God executed on those unbelievers, whom he had chosen as his people, and delivered by his power. Nearly the same reference is made by Paul in the tenth chapter of the First Epistle to the Corinthians. The import of what he says is, that those whom God had honored with the greatest blessings, whom he had extolled to the same degree of honor as we enjoy at this day, he afterwards severely punished. Then in vain were all they proud of God’s grace, who did not live in a manner suitable to their calling. ***The word people is by way of honor taken for the holy and chosen nation, as though he had said that it availed them nothing, that they by a singular favor had been taken into covenant. ***By calling them unbelieving, he denotes the fountain of all evils; for all their sins, mentioned by Moses, were owing to this, because they refused to be ruled by God’s word. For where there is the subjection of faith, there obedience towards God necessarily appears in all the duties of life. Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. ***Satan was an angel that had salvation in Heaven, until he fell, he was saved until, because of unbelief he sinned..fell and lost his salvation. An angel of God that is truly saved can fall and lose their salvation is a very implicit warning to us that we should be watchful against our own fall 1Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. ***This earth on which we live, where men both stand and fall; and the best are subject to failing, being sons of Adam as well as sons of God; partly flesh and partly spirit. -The vigilancy required in order to our standing, Take heed. -How many thousands have fallen by a presumptuous confidence of their own strength in standing! they fell by thinking it impossible to fall. 2 Peter 3:7 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, FALL from your own stedfastness. Romans11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Romans11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise THOU ALSO SHALT BE CUT OFF. ***The Lord is with a people only whilst they are with him; if they serve and seek him, he will be found of them; but if they forsake him, he will cast them off for ever.( See Hebrews 10:26) Hebrews 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. Hebrews 3:11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) Hebrews 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. Hebrews 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. Hebrews 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, IF we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast UNTO THE END;

@@dargasb Thank you!!! Amen!!

@@dargasbSalvation does not apply to angels.

@@rlhicks1 Those that are not of God will always argue HIS word and make excuses. Thanks for proving to the whole world that you serve the devil. John 8:43-45 (KJV) 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

@@dargasb Thanks for proving salvation does not apply to angels.

According to God's Word, You can lose your salvation...don't be deceived by the lies of Satan. 1Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. This earth on which we live, where men both stand and fall; and the best are subject to failing, being sons of Adam as well as sons of God; partly flesh and partly spirit. -The vigilancy required in order to our standing, Take heed. -How many thousands have fallen by a presumptuous confidence of their own strength in standing! they fell by thinking it impossible to fall. Romans11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Romans11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. --The Lord is with a people only whilst they are with him; if they serve and seek him, he will be found of them; but if they forsake him, he will cast them off for ever.( See Hebrews 10:26) Hebrews 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Hebrews 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Hebrews 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. 2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 2 Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. -----Woe to those that relapse from God to the world, from truth to error, from grace to vice; their latter end will be worse than their beginning, if they do not recover themselves again by timely repentance, they will be cast into the lake of fire with the rest of the wicked, no matter what their previous profession.

OSAS is Damnable devil doctrine. Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’

Jesus said, ‘Count the cost’

@@KallyKafritsas are you going to use 3 words only?

@@SoJc_FaithForwardOSAS is Unbiblical devil doctrine

Titus 1:16 OSAS are lazy, lukewarm Abominable, and Disobedient, reprobates

Yes Amen

Context is key 🔑

@@aaronguzman2258 esp the context of the entirety of the sacred text, the context understood & taught by the great saints & martyrs of the ancient holy faith....Orthodox Christendom not imposed Heterodoxy

@@aaronguzman2258 if many fell away or even will fall away, betray & hate another, lead astray by false prophets, will be wicked, love grown cold....this sounds like they lost the holy faith, they did not or will not endure to the end, hence osas Calvinism is absolutely heterodox

Do you think they endured? Oh you didn't think that verse was written for the church, did you? lol

how he changed your life? all of the sudden automatically, or after many years he brought revival? or you started to change right from the beginning bcz you had a good ground.?

What does that mean?

Christians need to learn how to divide the word like Jesus said to do.

According to God's Word, You can lose your salvation...don't be deceived by the lies of Satan and these false prophets. 1Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. This earth on which we live, where men both stand and fall; and the best are subject to failing, being sons of Adam as well as sons of God; partly flesh and partly spirit. -The vigilancy required in order to our standing, Take heed. -How many thousands have fallen by a presumptuous confidence of their own strength in standing! they fell by thinking it impossible to fall. Romans11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Romans11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. --The Lord is with a people only whilst they are with him; if they serve and seek him, he will be found of them; but if they forsake him, he will cast them off for ever.( See Hebrews 10:26) Hebrews 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Hebrews 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Hebrews 10:28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Hebrews 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Hebrews 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. 2 Peter 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 2 Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. -----Woe to those that relapse from God to the world, from truth to error, from grace to vice; their latter end will be worse than their beginning, if they do not recover themselves again by timely repentance, they will be cast into the lake of fire with the rest of the wicked, no matter what their previous profession....

That's not what the last page of our Bible says. That page rocked me so hard that I read Revelation 10 times in a year.

God's Word says You can lose your salvation…Don't be deceived by the lies of Satan and these false prophets. ***The angels lost their salvation (2 Peter 2:4), the people in the wilderness lost their salvation, they never got to go to the Promised Land (a parallel intimating Heaven)..these are examples for us to be warned that we can lose our salvation just as they did and we will not make it to the Promised Land of Heaven but instead we will be cast in with the one we followed in hell, because we disobeyed God and His commands to repent and live a holy life. ***The angels lost their salvation by following Satan when he fell, people are less than the angels of heaven. 2 Peter 2:4 For if GOD SPARED NOT THE ANGELS THAT SINNED, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; ***Neither their former rank as holy angels of Heaven, their dignity, nor their being in Heaven, saved them from being thrust down to hell, and if God punished them so severely, how do you think that you can't lose your salvation and be thrust to hell with the fallen angels that sinned. The word of God is referring to angels in heaven that were truly holy and saved but due to falling into sin they lost their salvation and were thrust into hell. In the presence of an holy God, is no place for unholy persons. ***Before these fallen angels came out of the presence of God, they were holy; and being holy, they were beloved of God; else he hated the image of his own spotless purity. But now he loves them no more; they are doomed to endless destruction. (for if he loved them still, he would love what is sinful:) and both his former love, and his present righteous and eternal displeasure towards the same work of his own hands, are because he changes not; because he invariably loves righteousness, and hates iniquity. Jude 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, HOW THAT THE LORD, HAVING SAVED THE PEOPLE OUT OF the land of Egypt, AFTERWARD DESTROYED THEM that believed not. Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, ARE SET FORTH FOR AN EXAMPLE, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. *** SAVED THE PEOPLE - Delivered them from the Egyptian bondage (intimating the bondage of sin). ***AFTERWARD DESTROYED THEM - Because they neither believed his word, nor were obedient to his commands. Let none therefore presume upon past mercies, as if he was now out of danger. ***The destruction of the Israelites, of the inhabitants of Sodom, and of the angels that sinned, is recorded for the warning of sinners in all ages, and to show that however great the blessings men may enjoy, if they continue in sin, or reject the gospel, they will inevitably and awfully perish forever losing their salvation. ***The Israelites in the wilderness; as they perished through unbelief, after they were brought out of Egypt, so shall revolters perish, notwithstanding their baptism, and fair beginnings. As those who had been delivered from Egypt were afterward destroyed for their unbelief (sin), or as the mere fact of their being rescued did not prevent destruction from coming on them, so the fact that these persons were saved to be delivered from sin, and had become professed followers of God, would not prevent their being destroyed if they afterward led wicked, sinful lives. ***They first were saved, delivered from sin; then second, they were destroyed because of their sin of unbelief that God said not to sin. They thought that they could do what they wanted and live contrary to God’s way because HE had saved them previously, they justifying themselves in their sins suffered the loss of that precious salvation and never entered into God’s rest (promise land). Destroyed them that believed not. That is, on account of their unbelief, returning to sin, living in sin. They were not permitted to enter the promised land, but were cut off in the wilderness. Just as if we continue to sin or go back to sin, we “ALSO SHALT BE CUT OFF” - Romans 11:22..meaning you will lose your salvation, will not enter into God’s rest in Heaven, will not be saved from the burning torments of hell. ***Unbelief will as certainly bring destruction upon Christians now, as it did upon the Israelites of old. Did God destroy them that believed not his commands then? no less will he destroy them that believe not his commands now. ***After having been called by God, we ought not to glory carelessly in his grace, but on the contrary, to walk watchfully in his fear; for if any trifles thus with God, the contempt of his grace will not be unpunished. And this he proves by three examples in His word given through Jude. He first refers to the vengeance which God executed on those unbelievers, whom he had chosen as his people, and delivered by his power. Nearly the same reference is made by Paul in the tenth chapter of the First Epistle to the Corinthians. The import of what he says is, that those whom God had honored with the greatest blessings, whom he had extolled to the same degree of honor as we enjoy at this day, he afterwards severely punished. Then in vain were all they proud of God’s grace, who did not live in a manner suitable to their calling. ***The word people is by way of honor taken for the holy and chosen nation, as though he had said that it availed them nothing, that they by a singular favor had been taken into covenant. ***By calling them unbelieving, he denotes the fountain of all evils; for all their sins, mentioned by Moses, were owing to this, because they refused to be ruled by God’s word. For where there is the subjection of faith, there obedience towards God necessarily appears in all the duties of life. ***Suffering the vengeance of eternal fire; they were cast into endless perdition with the devil and his angels. Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. ***Satan was an angel that had salvation in Heaven, until he fell, he was saved until, because of unbelief he sinned..fell and lost his salvation. An angel of God that is truly saved can fall and lose their salvation is a very implicit warning to us that we should be watchful against our own fall 1Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. 1Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. ***This earth on which we live, where men both stand and fall; and the best are subject to failing, being sons of Adam as well as sons of God; partly flesh and partly spirit. -The vigilancy required in order to our standing, Take heed. -How many thousands have fallen by a presumptuous confidence of their own strength in standing! they fell by thinking it impossible to fall. 2 Peter 3:7 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, FALL from your own stedfastness. Romans11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Romans11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise THOU ALSO SHALT BE CUT OFF. ***The Lord is with a people only whilst they are with him; if they serve and seek him, he will be found of them; but if they forsake him, he will cast them off for ever.( See Hebrews 10:26)