Deck Building Fundamentals (Start Playing Vanguard Pt. 3)

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This is episode 3 of Start Playing Vanguard, where we go over deck building fundamentals.
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@alexg.9250
@alexg.9250 5 жыл бұрын
One way I lile to remember the standard deck ratio is that you start with 17 g0s(starter plus triggers),and substract 3 as you go up each grade:17->17-3=14->14-3=11->11-3=8
@icedude46
@icedude46 5 жыл бұрын
You honestly have one of, if not the best card channels around. I got into vanguard roughly 2 years ago and NONE of my friends play it, and trying to teach them was so rough. Thankfully I have this series to show them! You also help me expand my knowledge, as I said I am still relatively new. Your videos are so informational and very entertaining!
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 5 жыл бұрын
Truly appreciated!
@theglocknessmonster
@theglocknessmonster 5 жыл бұрын
I can explain the yugioh ratio thing. Some cards are powerful, but can be considered bricks that you wouldn’t be able to make plays from if you draw them. Let’s say Gem-knight Garnet who has no ability and fairly weak. He can’t extend, but you can use brilliant fusion to send him from the deck(not hand) to the graveyard to fusion summon Gem-knight Seraphinite who let’s you gain an additional norman summon. Just an example of the many ways cards aren’t always maximized.
@BoldAndSpicy
@BoldAndSpicy 5 жыл бұрын
I would say pot of desires is a better example of this and what he was talking about. It forces you to mill 10 cards off your deck and place them in basically an unusable state, but in return you get to draw 2 cards. This is a great trade off if you do it once in a game but its also not usually a card that you need to see in order to be able to win, in other words its nice to see. However if you draw another one from the first one, now you're paying a pretty hefty price to go +2 (basically milling half your deck and possibly making cards you need unusable) if you use the new one you draw. So now you either have a high risk situation or a dead card. If you only run two as opposed to 3 in a 40 card deck it reduces the risk significantly enough that its rarely an issue. Hence why its usually ran with 2 so that its good if you see it but okay if you don't.
@kaiserdragon1206
@kaiserdragon1206 4 жыл бұрын
You both made excellent points. In yugioh, the difference in ratios means you will see a particular card more often or not on your beginning hand. Most deck run a 40 card decks, so they want to max out on what we call starter cards while we leave the boss monsters in the 1 copy.
@rescuerex7031
@rescuerex7031 4 жыл бұрын
Also with Yugioh consistency is everywhere, Floating, Searching, and Drawing so even though like Vanguard it's a lot about Building and breaking Boards Vanguard doesn't have the same level of consistency
@mujtabasirius
@mujtabasirius 5 жыл бұрын
These videos of yours helped me alot, although i have been playing vangaurd since 2014 i still watch all of them and then show them to my friends who wanted to learn vangaurd got 2 people in this game through these.
@cfvanguard9034
@cfvanguard9034 4 жыл бұрын
5:11 oh man I love how he described aqua force's grade 1s 😂😂😂
@ItsCottonie
@ItsCottonie 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with all of these! I’m a casual, I don’t play tournaments, and can’t really deck build at all so I always stick to certain things to help. The ratio, always run 4 if the card is essential to the deck, and I netdeck especially with premium. Standard I can kind of get a feel for how to build the deck cause there isn’t many cards to choose from. But if you initially gave me every card from a clan and told me to make a deck I’d have no idea what I would be doing. So what I do is I make an excel sheet on google drive, then I pull up two or more deck lists of the clan and build I want (for example “great nature bigbelly success deck” or “pale moon Harri Magia deck”). Then I compare the lists. If both lists run a card at 4 then I know that card is important and I’ll add 4 to the excel sheet. So I do that first. Then after, for example if they run 2 separate cards then I’ll read the abilities and see which one id like more. If I’m unsure I go for the cheaper one lol. If they’re both cheap I’ll buy both and see which one is easier for me to play with. The excel sheet helps me keep track of all the cards, how many should be in the deck, how many of a card I have, how many I need, and a link for me to look at the card and see it’s ability. Great video!
@darkgn0ll587
@darkgn0ll587 3 жыл бұрын
Ths series has been super helpful to me- thank you very much!
@chitosecoffee9668
@chitosecoffee9668 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when cardfight was season one and I return today and the cards are drastically different from what a remember
@4ceher0
@4ceher0 5 жыл бұрын
really enjoying all this new content. keep it up !
@sloumagamer277
@sloumagamer277 4 жыл бұрын
I'm new to vanguard and you truly did help me a lottt ! thankkksss
@Goobrino
@Goobrino 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with netdecking. People hating on it are just salty mofos who can't win with their original builds. What I've always done is netdeck (if I'm not familiar with the clan) then tweak it constantly until I become comfortable with it.
@devaraft
@devaraft 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't netdecking and tweaking it a norm? I mean, I do have my own build for fun but netdecking is definitely acceptable.
@Goobrino
@Goobrino 5 жыл бұрын
@@devaraft You'd be surprised as to how many people think that netdecking makes you a bad player because they think original is the best.
@devaraft
@devaraft 5 жыл бұрын
@@Goobrino I honestly don't see the appeal of 100% netdecking but I don't mind if some people do. I mean it's only a game, why do one even get mad over people's preferences anyway
@Jachidos
@Jachidos 5 жыл бұрын
You guys misunderstand. Netdecking isn't the problem when you learn to properly play it and even twerk it a bit. What is looked down upon is people netdecking the day before a tournament and expecting to win without any practice, as if the deck would just play itself.
@Goobrino
@Goobrino 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jachidos We didn't misunderstand. You might be the one who did. I don't have a problem with netdecking, the other people do.
@yohannesmusa6684
@yohannesmusa6684 5 жыл бұрын
The extra draws are crucial in standard like for typical accel clan ( aqua,naru,nova) they need extra draw in order to collect their combo pieces as fast as possible and keep the hand consistent. Also i really think that standard is a matter of speed in the game.
@christiansanchezmontero4018
@christiansanchezmontero4018 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing work
@gogetta0100
@gogetta0100 4 жыл бұрын
New to the game here and I'm very thankful for your videos my friends have been trying to get me to start playing but they secretly don't know I am 😂
@ZEROPHOS
@ZEROPHOS 5 жыл бұрын
there are also some other exceptions for decks that can cycle the deck fast enough to get keypieces ex: Bladewing
@Windman1995
@Windman1995 5 жыл бұрын
You want to be running a lower ammount of G3s, looks at Melody and Ange/Trois xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.
@mocareginaalcus1263
@mocareginaalcus1263 5 жыл бұрын
Run 14 G3 Still G assist in G3 ride Kinda hate my luck
@cnash5647
@cnash5647 4 жыл бұрын
I never thought this was a thing, I only think of balance proportions and break them to make space for more important cards
@sebbainbridge-coombs9279
@sebbainbridge-coombs9279 3 жыл бұрын
An example of a weaker trigger thats good is sarugal as it gives you draw power which is really needed in royals
@haziqhamdan2643
@haziqhamdan2643 5 жыл бұрын
I play gear chronicle for standard format. From what I red from net, I should play 10:11:12 (g3>g1). But some people run 10:12:11, 11:11:11. I tried first recommendation but 1 over 15 get to bind equal to g19 against my brother's royal paladin soul saver palamedes
@Earthbound524
@Earthbound524 5 жыл бұрын
Eventually you should make a video talking about the other mechanics of the game (breakride, legion, strides, stride fodder, g guardians) but also i noticed you didn't explain intercepts as well in the previous video
@golddart6645
@golddart6645 5 жыл бұрын
Ayyy congrats 14k👍👍
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 5 жыл бұрын
ty!
@golddart6645
@golddart6645 5 жыл бұрын
Solemn Vanguard your welcome👍
@shirou-kun9093
@shirou-kun9093 4 жыл бұрын
Dragwizard decks generally run 15+ grade 1s and like only mabye 8-10 grade 2s
@redfalconyt6538
@redfalconyt6538 4 жыл бұрын
what do you mean by 4 drop eg
@sohamupadhyay7557
@sohamupadhyay7557 5 жыл бұрын
This could be the video that can help people win regionals , like really most fundamental but so impactful..
@ahmadjalal3483
@ahmadjalal3483 5 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us what the symbols mean
@melodoxoffical
@melodoxoffical 4 жыл бұрын
Highly doubt this'll be seen BUT i play yugioh and my friend plays both magic and yugioh. I saw some guys at my locals playing and i was drawn to it since. It took me some time but i finally decided I want to play. My friend offered to join me as where i live there is barely a vanguard playerbase. I chose to pick up a Bermuda triangle trial deck and we recently found your videos and have been watching the first 3 on repeat until we're comfortable to move on.
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 4 жыл бұрын
+Melodox Offical Awesome! Good luck on your journey :)
@matt-dc8zb
@matt-dc8zb 5 жыл бұрын
Just starting to play vanguard recently, and I want to start in standard, but I don't really have any card shops near by that play anything other than magic. I was wondering if you or someone in the comments could let me know what the pool of cards standard draws from. For example is it just the unite team q4, al4, miyaji academy, and vilest, or are there other cards too. I ask because I saw a dimension police standard profile on youtube, but from the card lists none of those sets have dimension police.
@BboyTurok1990
@BboyTurok1990 4 жыл бұрын
Dimension Police is mostly on extra boosters like My Glorious Justice and Asia Circuit Champion extra booster.
@iimegumn0717
@iimegumn0717 5 жыл бұрын
standard gears is soo hard in deck building but its fun to play
@Emperor_of_Perdition
@Emperor_of_Perdition 5 жыл бұрын
I love your intro song !!!
@Ahmed-DB
@Ahmed-DB 5 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hch5a8hevb3DYGg.html Thank me later
@plasmatriton7394
@plasmatriton7394 5 жыл бұрын
His final turn ost
@Emperor_of_Perdition
@Emperor_of_Perdition 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ahmed-DB Thank you !!
@Ahmed-DB
@Ahmed-DB 5 жыл бұрын
@@Emperor_of_Perdition np
@Ahmed-DB
@Ahmed-DB 5 жыл бұрын
@@Emperor_of_Perdition lyrics in his description btw
@NarukamiRaizer
@NarukamiRaizer 3 жыл бұрын
Im starting to play premium and i have a question. cards that have a standard and an original version but that are restircted .for example commander laurel is restricted to one but does that mean i can only run 1 laurel or can i for example run 1 old laurel and 3 new laurel is that possible? an answer would be great ( and sry for bad english greetings from germany 😊)
@crispycookie8477
@crispycookie8477 3 жыл бұрын
Nop you can run 1 old laurel and 3 new laurel, the restriction is only to that specific card
@golddart6645
@golddart6645 5 жыл бұрын
This is a video I need to watch, I really want to build decks but just don’t know how
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 5 жыл бұрын
I think this will help :)
@golddart6645
@golddart6645 5 жыл бұрын
Solemn Vanguard just finished and sure did it help me
@arjunbalamurali127
@arjunbalamurali127 4 жыл бұрын
I generally run 17 G 0s, 12 G 1s, 11 G 2s and 10 G3s. Always kinda worked for me.
@ianriley5756
@ianriley5756 4 жыл бұрын
What about g units and g guardians? Are they part of the 50 or separate like the extra deck in card games
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 4 жыл бұрын
+Ian Riley extra deck :)
@anthonycurto5654
@anthonycurto5654 2 жыл бұрын
I use genetic support like ultra and run 9 G3’s
@jinsoulsfish6103
@jinsoulsfish6103 5 жыл бұрын
Should I invest in cards/decks that is aplicable in standard format or the ones in premium format?
@Arlixd
@Arlixd 4 жыл бұрын
Both. But premium cards will last longer.
@RamenFool
@RamenFool 5 жыл бұрын
Thing is... you cant guard with monsters like you can in CFV, and with more deck toolboxing you're more likely to search something else at certain parts of the game... especially if it's a normal summon effect So wanting to see a card sometimes but not all the time is warranted for other card games
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 5 жыл бұрын
+Michael Fangre But yugioh games are generally decided on turn 1. So consistency of seeing specific things in 5/40 cards is more important than ever.
@manjulaekka4466
@manjulaekka4466 5 жыл бұрын
Can you explain how great nature × gyze works?
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 5 жыл бұрын
+Manjula Ekka It doesn’t... Really :P It’s a funny deck cuz it draws a lot and can fetch g3s with Mikesaburo but it’s not a competitive deck
@MrSirSquirtle
@MrSirSquirtle 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a particular trial deck in Standard that is "better" than the rest? Or one that is more easily upgradeable?
@dionardvale7448
@dionardvale7448 4 жыл бұрын
imo genesis
@gabsanga6703
@gabsanga6703 3 жыл бұрын
I guess Genesis TD. It has Valkerion the first G5 card in the game. Its kinda easy too build rn IMO, I think Astraios Dragon and New Uranus are the hardest ones to get
@bubblegum7661
@bubblegum7661 4 жыл бұрын
My D.I. Deck needs more grade 2s
@midlightdrakon9911
@midlightdrakon9911 4 жыл бұрын
I need to know the opening song
@fiendishmia506
@fiendishmia506 4 жыл бұрын
Midlight Drakon he made it I think
@mirilion8372
@mirilion8372 4 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for front quintet walls
@cronical246
@cronical246 5 жыл бұрын
Me wishing Hagakure was a grade 1
@khiarieverett9658
@khiarieverett9658 5 жыл бұрын
15 Grade 3s, what Glendios use to be
@tonyten39
@tonyten39 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Ahmed-DB
@Ahmed-DB 5 жыл бұрын
Oh and Solemn, why do you keep the Category of the video at default People and Blogs
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 5 жыл бұрын
+Dragonicblaster I never gave it any thought lol
@Ahmed-DB
@Ahmed-DB 5 жыл бұрын
@@SolemnVanguard lol ah well
@666Blush
@666Blush 4 жыл бұрын
I used to play vanguard then they added 4 stars and I lost it for like 2 years now I’m back...
@ultimatedrago4909
@ultimatedrago4909 5 жыл бұрын
Roughly how expensive is it to build a good deck with vrs and all those rares?
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 5 жыл бұрын
For standard, most competitive decks will be between 150 and 300. (Usually between 150-200... some are just extra expensive) For premium, it's extremely clan-reliant. Some competitively viable decks are only 60$ whilst others are 200$ or even 400$.
@ultimatedrago4909
@ultimatedrago4909 5 жыл бұрын
@@SolemnVanguard is that in usd?
@mekk-knightsarecool222
@mekk-knightsarecool222 5 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Drago490 yeah, it has a dollar sign behind the numbers
@Samikinlol
@Samikinlol 5 жыл бұрын
Actually I think it is still called G Assist as the G stands for Grades, right? Or am I going crazy?
@boykatanadewarrior9863
@boykatanadewarrior9863 5 жыл бұрын
nope you are right :D
@Samikinlol
@Samikinlol 5 жыл бұрын
@@aerinnmay7082 I just thought it meant G for grade since you do it while you are grade stuck and can't ride up. Why would it also be called generation assist if it had minimal effect on striding cards and more effect on riding cards?
@itsmegrimm
@itsmegrimm Жыл бұрын
I just bought Cardfight Vanguard Dear days Im looking for a video tutorial how to build a deck and I don't understand anything
@thecouncilofbruh7854
@thecouncilofbruh7854 5 жыл бұрын
*Talks about hypothetical drawing then talks about granblue* visible confusion
@golddart6645
@golddart6645 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have a reliable website where I can buy singles in the uk? Not eBay or amazon tho, coz like a Mac lir is going for £8 Thank you🙏
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 5 жыл бұрын
I use ebay, tcgplayer, etc..
@golddart6645
@golddart6645 5 жыл бұрын
Solemn Vanguard but isn’t tcgplayer American Idk I really want to get into vanguard but boosters are expensive in the uk And I find it hard to find singles Plus I don’t have locals
@leofransson3519
@leofransson3519 5 жыл бұрын
Spectral Dragon cardfightvanguardsingels is very good site! I have used it many times shipping is fast and very good condition too
@golddart6645
@golddart6645 5 жыл бұрын
Leo Fransson thanks
@anessalwan
@anessalwan 5 жыл бұрын
Cardmarket.eu is cheaper than other sites (at least that is my experience) and when you make a want list (feature of the site) it checks all the sellers for one with the most cards in your list and gow much it costs. You should try it out.
@zaza-vj4gn
@zaza-vj4gn 5 жыл бұрын
Y do you like using the word validity
@inukiokazaki3668
@inukiokazaki3668 4 жыл бұрын
2:10
@DarkMagicianMana
@DarkMagicianMana 5 жыл бұрын
What's better: G3= 8 G2= 10 G1= 15 G0= 17 Or: G3= 8 G2= 11 G1= 14 G0= 17 ???
@machina5
@machina5 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on your deck.
@neon5299
@neon5299 5 жыл бұрын
The other problem is money. Im broke af
@rai-kun7581
@rai-kun7581 4 жыл бұрын
shadow paladins dont have front triggers so we basically can have like 4 extra cards in our deck
@LeoNotLeonidas
@LeoNotLeonidas 4 жыл бұрын
8 crit of course, why 4 extra cards? You must have 16 triggers.
@skarn-
@skarn- 4 жыл бұрын
Can I have more then 50 ?
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 4 жыл бұрын
+kk nope! only in the G zone
@manjulaekka4466
@manjulaekka4466 5 жыл бұрын
Second
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 5 жыл бұрын
gratss
@teammetastorm1479
@teammetastorm1479 5 жыл бұрын
FIRST
@SolemnVanguard
@SolemnVanguard 5 жыл бұрын
CONGRATS
@RyujiRoyalSkull
@RyujiRoyalSkull 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao please don't Netdeck. Most are literal cancer. (Yugioh experience tho)
@crispycookie8477
@crispycookie8477 4 жыл бұрын
Well if your a beginner and no one can help you you dont really have a choice, they can learn from looking at what cards are considered good or playable
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