My personal opinion - I sincerely hope and wish that Shri J Sai Deepak takes the highest seat in the Indian Judicial System someday. Jai Hind 🇮🇳

DR. Ali came thinking this is NDTV debate, He certainly got his facts cleared.😀😄

J Sai bhaiya in the process of writing his second book has become a powerhouse in pre modern history

With no disrespect to other Speakers, all those here for the famous JSD missiles, jump to: 04:27 to 10:10 31:49 to 41:59 1:01:45 to 1:07:11 A sardar from Punjab salutes this man's knowledge and courage. Respect forever 🙏

Ali is a shining example showing that whatever a Muslim does..he remains faithful to Islam and never to truth

Meenakshi ji elegant as always ❤️ May she will write 100 more books . Thank you Arth

Three legends on the stage, patiently listening and hearing a hypocrite speak his hypocrisy out of his heart! This is my Bharat.

Mr Ali is the one who started his talk...... With meaning of Islam and Hindu. He just diverted the whole talk away from the topic and then questions the panelists. Wah Ali ji wah.

My question to Dr. Ali - if the whole world was all the time fighting in past, how did our Indic culture and systems make so many spiritual, academic, biological, scientific, astronomical, health related research and knowledge systems ??? There must be inherent peace and security for any social system to come up with so much knowledge and inventions .

Just another day listening to J Sai Anna & watching what he do best, stating pure facts with sheer confidence & conviction. 🔥Always insightful to hear legends like Meenakshi mam, Ranga sir & JSD. 🙏

This video should be shown to all the youth of this country 🙏

There are NO power cuts in rural UP during the whole program/event . Good. Tr.Ali has an agenda.......

Ali bhai thought it would be a debate show but he finally found himself in a class of history taken by professor sai deepak

3years to that video " I am an Indian from the south . Not a south indian."

Sadly today most Hindus r interested in Politics winning and the cost of losing of Civilization and Culture due to our ignorance for not Questioning the qovt. for controlling our Temples and not giving equal rights to Hindu Institutions . We have put our Civilization at the stake for election but rather politics should have just been the means to Increase our Civilization. That's why people like J Sai Deepak, Meenakshi Mam, Anuj Dhar , Vikram Sampath , Sanjay Dixit sir , Anand Ranganathan sir ,Keonard Elst , Acharya Prashant,. Pt. Satish Sharma and many more across Bharat across different fields r so impt. This rising chunk r people r putting their life on line for the Bharat Civilization and not for mere politics !!!! The rise of these people will ensure that thousands more will be inspired to take up the. Cause of Dharma !!!! Jai. hind !! Jai Shree Ram !!

Mr Ali reminded, "I as a trained historian". Audrey ki aatma aa gayi.

J Sai Deepak pointed out the mistakes and fleshed out the facts, especially when Islamic invasion horrors are downplayed and hided.

India faced two waves of colonisation as explicitly said by Jai Sai Dipak, one from the invading Muslims and then from the English. The discussion shall be on both waves when we talk about decolonisation!

25:49 Meenakshi Jain By 18th century there was no Hindu temples left in North India. When Mughal empire was on decline and Marthas were on rise, leading Ulema of Delhi wrote to Afghan King to invade India

Ali was quick to fish out his victim card. He belongs to those category of people who react as soon as anyone says anything against a Muslim, even if that Muslim is Aurangzeb and his ilk. He talks very smoothly with a slight British accent - and I can see how naive people can get influenced by him. Then there's the typical apologia where he mentions some Muslim donated money to temples.

When the whole of UP's rural commoners are saying that UP is getting 20 hours of power/day, only a frustrated Muslim like Dr Ali would want us to believe that he still lives in the colonized Uttar Pradesh where there is still darkness. This in a forum which is discussing Decolonizing Indin History.

Dr Ali I apologise in advance but it looks like Rural UP doesnt have any electricity flunctuations.

I feel so sorry for students of Ashoka, who spend lacs and lacs to be taught by someone who does nothing but digress, lacks courage, cannot call a spade a spade, who cannot even agree on expanding the definition of deconolising simply because he is from a 'religion' which has remained a significant part of destruction and colonising India. I'm from LSR, DU, and Mr. ALI reminds me of my english professors, full of shitty truths, no facts and teaching us convoluted, factually incorrect, horribly left opinions about our history! Shame!

The moment Ali says Geeta is about war and compares it with Quran, the headshake Sai gives is hilarious. He is like, dude you know nothing, why did we even get him here. 🤣🤣

Two questions that come to mind regarding Dr Ali. If a photo is not a sample then can one family's history be a sample? Who 'trains' historians? The Left, the Right, or the Centre?

What a splendid debate and j sai Deepak, what a man he is.

Sai Deepak is a real gem.

Shame on me on having bought the books of these two geniuses but haven’t been able to get to reading it. What a reminder to get back into serious reading.

🙏🕉🇮🇳 Fantastic, informative and educational and Kudos to the 3 panelist. This Muslim guy is beyond his depth and simply peddling SIN ( Standard Islamic Narrative) taught to him in madrassas and mosques. This video should go viral. Every proud Hindu should watch this video not once but many times to digest what Islamic doctrine , ideology and imposition is all about. Thank you.

When I was a high schooler I had the opportunity to read slightly about Dr. Bhagwan Singh and his theory challenging the Aryan Invasion Theory. In a snippet in the famous Children's magazine Chandamama I got to know about Dr. Bhagwan Singh and his claim. I as kid was in dilemma and was looking for more information about that. But no library within my reach could provide either anything about Dr. Singh or this claims. He was pushed to forgetfulness....

The thing I love about Indic people is that they invite competent guests from the left and give fair amount of time for them to state their points. You will never have this in the left. They won't invite guests like Sai Deepak or many others because they know these people will take away the spotlight and doesn't give fair amount of time to the other side. The moment they know their narrative is at threat they interrupt guests and divert the subject or bring whatboutism and move on to the other guests. Great discussion loved it. All three guests raised some great points including Anand Ranganathan who actually gave more time to Ali Khan than the other two which is interesting.

Watching from tthe Philippines...the critique about Islam is on point. It is the same problem in the West and other Asian majority islam countries. Islam appears to have no mechanism for self-critique.

Hope present government takes cognizance of this and rewrite correct history books so that our young generation is aware of Bharat's rich cultural, traditional heritage 🙏

If people have listened to Osho he rightly compares each societies like middle eastern ,west and east. The truth is bharat especially is more consiouslly evolved then the present west and middle east .west(Christian society) is a little ahead of middle - east(Muslim society) in terms of consciousness development.There is absolutely no doubt the hindustan is more consiouslly developed .as Osho said ,"Just look at the people being enlightened in this land 🙏"

Wow! I am just amazed at the depth of knowledge Sai has on Islamic history in India. He can easily crush any leftist or Muslim intellectual in a debate with his facts. It was a wonderful discussion, as usual Anand moderated very well and Meenakshi Ji gave important facts about the lies in history writing by the left.

Geeta talks about war with an evil mentality. This war is for people. Not only Bhagavadgita, all our religious books never encourage discrimination against anyone. Any fault Is there that belongs to people, not our books. Quran talks about war with kafirs. Ali must know about geeta.

Sai Deepak. The way he dwells into documentary facts and for his outspoken audacity, he should be provided with Z security by the Govt

Ali is a “political” scientist

J Sai Deepak is excellent as always 🙏🏻

One thing i have observed with non Indic Historians is that they mostly talk about philosophy if history and all such fancy ideas.where as Indic historians just talk about facts.

You said Ali is from LKO , but he is saying he’s speaking from rural UP where there is a scarce power problem . Is it a deliberate statement as UP is going in polls ?

@32:14 - Mr. Ali is probably thinking.... There are 3 Hindus and 1 muslim in the discussion. So the muslim panelist should get 3x more time to speak. Or else India is not secular, India is majoritarian. This is hindutva ideology etc etc.... 😁. PS - this is a joke, pls don't take it to heart.

Absolutely brilliant! We’re truly blessed to have Indic Scholars like J Sai Deepak🙏🏽

Bad sound quality..for such a great conversation

Very interesting discussion. Always a pleasure to hear Dr. Ranganathan, Meenakshiji and JSDeepak. Personally I think the narrative needs to come from the people - independent researchers and scholars and NOT the govt. Surely we all agree that govt controlled narratives can be misused as in the past. Today we have a govt with a sympathetic attitude but what if that changes again in the future. If we build our own body of research then at least the narrative will be honest and fair. After all history is about people and not an elite group - political or academic.

Brilliant super-interesting illuminating discussion, pushing the boundaries of our thoughts about History, India & religions. Thank you! We need more of these please!!

Aurangzeb is ruler like any other 😂😂, these peaceful people will never change.

An absolute civilised discussion. What an insight of each panel members. Loved it.

most satishfying discussion with real intellects and comprehensive knowledge ever seen on any debate. @saideepak you are a machine gun with automatic mode for lutyens historions. pls accept my ramram.

Interesting and thought provoking discussion.

Great discussions and civilized debate. But for the title every thing else is great. One better title could be " should we limit de-colonization to British era".

Sai Deepakji you are super arguer. Unmatched knowledge with facts.I admire always

Very true Ali. Aurangazeb was a bad muslim for he killed his father brother etc( fellow MUSLIMS). Not a mention of his barbarism to the non muz. The notion of a good muz comes from the killing of non muz.

Audrey, probably Romila and Irfan Habib are also trained histrorians. Noone is fooled by that training argument.

It's hard to respect scholars like Dr. Ali Khan who are intentionally vague, talk of irrelevant, anomalous events and of shallow philosophical arguments instead to staying true to the historical method of accepting facts and being objective. I've noticed this weird trend among 'trained historians' to forget all their objectivity when discussing anout Is lam, as if they're obliged to defend this regress ive religion to death against the face of all facts. I have noticed this trend not only in Indian academic historians but also in western academic historians who write on classical history in Quora.

BJP has failed the Hindus. We need to rise independent of any political party.

Power house of knowledge and history in action. Hats off to Sai Deepak ji and Dr. Ranganathan ji. God bless you!

All kinds of Taquiya put forward by Mr. Ali. Facts are missing, call to emotion is all he is trained for. Sophisticated dishonesty,

A movie should be made on this information For us Indians

Ali speaks well but in the end, his grandfather was Muslim League's financier lekin yeh gaye nahi uss paar. With J Sai Deepak, the best part is a 'south Indian' is leading this charge and a intellectual renaissance of what is essentially north and central Indian history.

I will be happy that these recordings are brought out in a form of book. I am 86, till this day I was not aware of facts mentioned. If there is a well documented book I shall purchase it.

Only amazing respect for the obvious speakers having the well being of Bharat as the goal of their pursuit. 🙏

Amazing Discussion, only gripe, why it ended so early. Even after one hour, feels like this only started. Such an interesting eye opening topic, we feel like daft on our beliefs through what we've learned from our textbooks and what it actually is. Wish existing and next generation don't have to learn false and grossly misrepresented history anymore, more power to these individuals on their herculean task of decolonization our history.

Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant panel discussion which is informative and educational values. It is a treat that both Dr Anand Ranganathan and Dr Sai Deepak are in the distinguished panel. Thanks 🙏

Brilliant discussion. Brings to the fore the faultlines in telling of our past. All three made pertinent points.

Menakshi mam is reservoir of knowledge.

That was a heartening debate. Sensible people from all communities should face the past so that we can move freely into the future.

I see a revolutionary change in the general consciousness of the masses.

The man ..the machine..the demolisher..J Sai...senior your great sir ji...🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

Ahh was waiting for this video 😍

Such a brilliant conversation. I never liked history while growing up in schools,just coz I could never connect the dots and it was just limited to mug up the names n events with no sequence. Kudos to scholars like Sai Deepak, Anand and Meenakshi ma'am for enlightening us with facts and confidence with which Sai Deepak Sir says he can present the truth citing evidences. Huge respect to their intense research and work on this. High time , ruling party of so called the savers of Hindu culture/ hindutva do somethin to make this a reality of including them in the school texts. Jai hind. Jai bharat.

Ahhh!! Was waiting for this for so long. Used to re-watch previous year's sessions. Amazing and informative 👏👏

Caste is a Colonial construct. Caste system was a predominant system of European system that they shamelessly attributed to Asian societies. Caste system (which did not allow social mobility) was created by Lord Risley (a British Christian Missionary) in the 19th century. He morphed ancient and flexible jathis (occupational groups which allowed social mobility) and 4 varnas (colors of character of a person shaped by past karma or cause and effect not birth family) and classified people based on race science (nose size and head shape). The same race science was later used in Africa by colonialists which led to Rwandan genocide. Other countries also have surnames based on occupations eg Smith, Potter, Cooper, Mason, Tailor or Taylor, Spinner, Weaver (Webb was another word for a weaver, a webster was usually a female weaver), Dyer, Thatcher, Tyler, Slater, Miller, Baker, Cheeseman, Spicer, Cook, Fisher, Shepherd, Carter, Clarke, Skinner Gardener etc

10:39 So he starts off by saying that decolonisation should be done by "people trained in methodologies of history and other social science disciplines", and then goes on to assert multiple times that it shouldn't be the state doing it but rather the common people themselves. Both(the social science academia and the state) are much bigger entities who will be positing(or imposing) their view/version/method onto the people. Therefore, it basically boils down to "no you guys are not allowed to do it, we have the authority, we will be the ones doing it". And then also considering it was a strawman to suggest that anyone was suggesting the state to do it in the first place, he is literally opposing the common individuals and their ability and authority for decolonisation, and grabbing the authority for his small closed elitist aristocratic cabal of social scientists and historians. Its the deliberate conflation of any and all non-marxist and outside(to this cabal) entities and voices with the state and with the worst forms of nationalism(which was also clearly evident with his fallacious and simplistic reductions to "nationalism" multiple times).

Very happy to see eminent panelists taking up vital issue. They should come as often as possible on national channels. Jai Hind !🇮🇳

Brilliant intellectual discussion!!! Can I ask Dr Ranganathan to include in this time travel (indeed right minded)evolutionary biologists and theologists from two major sects Shavaism and Vaishnavism to decode what has been said about human and life origins. That would lead to a meaningful insight about science and philosophy of human birth and existence

Thanks Arth for inviting such Stalwarts for 21st gen audience.

Thanks arth festival for arranging this programme ❤️

Anand sir and Deepak sir is doing great job.....we Hindus must be aware of true history which is not teach in schools.

🙏 so releiving to know my belief system is being looked into and studied by the knowledgeable Bharatiya .

One word to describe this Ali guy is Taqaiya. This guy redefines it more apparently.

Fantastic, they brought Anand Ranganathan, Meenakshi Jain and Sai Deepak together.

Eye opening discussion . There is an urgent need to teach all the facts of history from school onwards so that one is able to analyse the present events with correct perspective.

J sai deepak sir as always amazing.. full of facts.

If we build our own intellectual infrastructure and indian spectrum of the scholarship, then we shall overcome our academic famine oneday.

I loved all the speakers and of course, we can’t forget the moderator ! Great discussion! :)

Thanks for uploading complete video.

Whenever one say, "I am trained historian"; one would deduce that that person is out of arguments and logic.

Dr. Ali came prepared but then out of syllabus questions from Sai ji and Dr. Ranga clean bowled him! Perhaps he should be given one more chance and come prepared on last 1000 years of Decolonization of India!! What say ?? Brilliant discussion... Jai Hind

Brilliant discussion. I am delighted to see such a great gathering for open discussion.

Deepak, Bharatha Maatha will be with you and dynasty for as long as the humanity survives….

Mr. Ali is the living example of what sai said about Jinnah that even though he dressed modern the mentality of being extremist Islamist was there.

I skipped Alis part bcz I did not want to waste my time

Thank you Arth for organisation this and many more discussions!

Jai Sai Deepaks 2nd book is out and I have read it....AMAZING

Mr Ali cannot talk straightforward, rather he will go on and on about some obscure philosophical rattling so that he can save himself from being confronted by hard historical facts about his own community.

Dr. Ali doing taqaiya straight up

Kudos to this open discussion..wow hats off J Sai Deepak..for opening it threadbare

J sai by just one debate i watched earlier flipped my mind upside down and changed my south pole to north pole. That's the kind of impact he has on me by just one speech one lecture

Ali was all over the place. The phrase "arre bhai kehna kya chahte ho?" comes to mind