I'm 49, been in lots of short and long-term relationships, and other than the sex offered by an attractive young woman, I don't see the value that women bring to relationships. They simply hold men back and bring little to the table other than youth and sexiness...when that is gone they are a complete liability and parasite, living off you, the host. Good luck gentlemen, good luck.

Rollo Tomassi's Frame concept is spot on, women are great at getting you into their frame once there you are done. Being aware of this is your protection.

Women (and some men) keep telling/asking me: why are you single, why don't you have kids? In addition to that, they stated, you are such a 'nice' guy, and etc. I've replied: I cook, clean, I got freedom and most importantly, I am at peace. Then, I asked them: what is it for me if I get married? What is she bringing unto the table? I Kid You Not, 99% of cases, they don't know what to say except that I need to pass my genes.

My first love was a diagnosed BPD. The shit i dealt with changed me for life. That was the definition of a toxic relationship. If a girl ever says I have BPD and down plays it like its not a big deal, you need to run.

I dated a girl with BPD once. It was absolute heaven and absolute hell. Beware gentleman..!

From your recommendation I've started reading the book. About half way through. I though I took the red pill but this really lays it all out. It's "soul crushing" to really see that woman act just like it says in the book and why. Just came out of a relationship with "the one" so the first chapter hit home. I make good money for a single guy and live comfortably. This girl knew I didn't make big money, I know she was more into my looks. About a year and a half into it she starts helping out her ex with the kids. Basically taking them cause he can't deal. I don't think she was sleeping with him but I think she was looking at her financial situation and wanted to stay close to the money. He makes 6 figures. I get my fair share of women but once the novelty of the looks wears off their gone. They want the money.

Rollo may have been doing this for 20 years but he needs your support & leadership Richard, thank you for hosting him on your show.

This book is rocking my world, love it!! Your mess is your message!!!

My brothers... If you want to learn more from Rollo Tomassi, and others like him, he will be speaking at the 21 Convention this fall, I'll be a speaker also. Tickets went on sale today with an early bird discount. Hope to see you there, here is my link for my EiC peeps: the21convention.org/eic

When a speaker tells essentially tells your own story, it chips away at the sense of isolation we get from living through a horrible relationship. RT's life with a BPD mirrors my own life experience of 8 years in hell with a BPD woman. Thanks for sharing it.

Bought the audible version of the rational male after seeing it mentioned in your email a week or two ago. Just finishing it up now. Found it so interesting I've bought a soft cover copy so I can add some sticky notes and do some marking up with my own notes. Thanks for the recommendation.

I just received my copy last week. Great read - anyone who hasn't had a chance to read it really should 👍

This came back into my feed after a few years. I’ve read RT and RC’s books and listened to many of their podcasts and they have really helped me all around improve my life. Thanks guys!

Bought the audible book because of you, now after listening 2x I feel like a smarter man. socially atleast

great interview! congratulations for getting Rollo on your channel.

I've found this video as one of the most helpful among videos on Your channel. Thank you very much and best wishes for the future ;)

Thanks for organizing this! Good follow up after reading the book.

Big Brother your work is awesome and inspires many brothers out there including me to reach a better self! Keep it up your doing a great job!

Mr Tomassi has saved lot of lives in different continents including mine Africa mainly northern part.

This is a great video that’s been lost in time.

Thank you both, The Rational Male changed my life.

Reading this book on your recommendation. Great, empowering book! So simple yet so complex.

less than 40 hours since I discovered your channel, and picked up "The Rational Male" e-book. Read it, and for the benefit of AFC's (like me) and/or newbies to your channel, let me say that this book is the most important thing I've ever read in my life; like being struck by lightning! I wanted to thank you. Not only do I feel reborn after my first read of The Rational Male, but am excited to focus on me....and also help friends in the same boat. My question: I have two son's, one is 14 and in the crosshairs of girls already, is it too soon to introduce this book to him? Again, thank you! And to those reading this post, read this book, it will change your life!

I finished the book yesterday and I think I should start again very deep stuff but I thought you and Rollo should do something since your stuff are similar, great to see this happen keep it up brother.

The RM is probably one of the most honest and important books I have ever read.

I continually miss the mark with women, I appreciate Rollo for writing the rational male book, it really helps

One of the first true original interviews

The Rational Male is the best book ever!

Another great interview! Thanks for doing what you do Richard. Much appreciated.

Every commenter who has a son here, "Mastery" is almost required reading as soon as they reach high school age. 48 Laws of Power is good anytime as well, but those two titles IMO, the earlier they're read, absorbed and practiced, the better.

Great great book and message. The complete red pill package in 1 book. I found out a lot by myself (by experience + reading/youtube) but one of the most interesting points (that were new to me) was that he mentioned the way women want men to be to serve only their needs, plus the fact that women don’t want men to realize that men add more value then women... and thus they call the real male character bad and give it a feminist twist to remain in the position of power, and lots of men are living blindfolded because of that these days, even the buff big ‘agressive’ (read : emotional) dudes (because they grew up in a single mother house-hold without guidance by a father and were told all men are bad). Also the fact that women always are labeled as a mystery but that their nature in fact can be written downs as clearly as a man’s nature. Thanks Rollo and thanks Richard for the interview

Great Video!

I can't wait to check this out. Thank you for doing this dude!!!!

Very good and deep interview but I noticed that Richard did not say PEACE at the end.

Hey EIC, I was wondering if you could do a video on dating in your 20's to 30's and explain what to look out for in women of that age. like negative and positive stuff.

Thank you to both of you.

I'm at the part the part called 'frame': I'm in a group for an assignment; when the group was formed by the lecturer, I automatically became the leader based on the fact that I was the one that made the move to collect the numbers of the members and maybe some other factors...Ive noticed that these particular members male and female much rather being in my frame than having shared power, and when the females take over, they take an inferior defensive/self protective stance that undermines that quality of work. things seem to work better when I just take control

I have abandoned any hope of ever finding a reasonable woman that would satisfy me.

Thanks for this EiC! Rollo I love - and 'The Rational Male' but he don't sound like no Sam Botta...

Was there a problem with the sync or editing? There seemed to be numerous times where his responses were at a much lower volume than your audio and you were cutting him off while he was responding.

He drones on for so long! I enjoyed the book but would hate to hangout with him in person.

good stuff Rich!

Kick-a$$ amazing! Thanks for doing this... great interview and content. 👍

Good stuff. Rollo is great. You really need to fix your audio btw

How do I sign up for clarity?

Thanks so much! This is awesome.

Please all read Corey Wayne’s 3% male book

I tried google but no luck: what is PURPLE PILL and MRA?

Alright, I've put it off long enough. I don't feel like I NEED to read The Rational Male but I'm intrigued, that and I can get it free as my first Audible download. 40 years old, let's see what else I can learn...

According to the Longman pronunciation dictionary, the word hyperbole is stressed in pEr and the word hyperbolic in bOl. It would make sence to stress hypergamy and hypergamic accordingly. My point being Mr. Cooper is right.

Why it’s always around 4 years? Is that when a man, in that state, can’t take it anymore?

Good Interview... Thanks

'frame' sounds very much like frame of reference

I can share my story, I've been in 2 serious relationships, one lasted 3 years in my late teens, and then the most recent with a woman that I actually married after 8 years of being together, and ended 3 years after (so 11 years together). I can say one thing, I've never given it much thought, but I was always "the red pill" guy it seems. I'm very sensitive to the derogatory flavour of feminism, to women (or men actually) having their way with no respect for the partner, and to the way of seeing the world, where women are the victims of men. There's so much of that everywhere, it's unreal. So my first relationship ended, when my partner started generalising about men and women, and placing women in place of victims of society, and men as the makers of all evil (which is funny, because her dad was a really kind guy, and a 100% beta at that). Anyway, against all "rules of the society" I decided I'm not gonna have any of that. My next relationship was with a very kind girl, who I was sure, was a complete opposite of the previous one. I became sure that we'll have a good relationship with mutual understanding and we will complement each other. To my complete surprise, the girl after almost 10 years adopted the same principles as the previous girl had (which is still unbelievable for me), started finding faults in everything I was doing as a guy, started having the same victim attitude etc. (mind you we were both adults over 30 now, no kids, high earning professionals with most things in life sorted). I couldn't understand the sudden change ... but it happened at a time when we've both sorted our "shit" and we both became fully independent. I wanted to be with her more, she clearly didn't. Anyway, after 2 years of "giving it time" I decided to pull the trigger. Short morale of this story is, that as soon as you put yourself in a position of a victim (or you are being put in that frame, or a frame of an oppressor), things go sour real quick. We all design our world with how we think and see things, and in a relationship we create frames and pull / get pulled into our states of mind, value systems etc. which is normal, that's how mind functions, so be aware of that guys. Now I'm with a new woman, and I'm actually going into her frame to an extent (careers, life events etc.), the mission statement is, keep my frame as well and never loose it. The one thing I've learned from that is, you are a different person with a different person. You really are. Even if you keep your frame, you still get put in a "role". Now the question is, weather you like this role or not and weather you will like it in X years (and weather your partner will like it in X years as well). The key here is just to be mindful of that in everyday life. Even simple things like keeping your leather jacker, or a motorcycle, or a sports car, cool glasses etc. those little things count and they help to define your masculine frame. Take care ppl, all the best!

Smart guy , could listen to him for hours and has made Red Pill more palatable and easy to digest for me as i have just discover MGTOW about 3 months ago and have been overwhelmed by info latley . Will buy his book ASAP , thanks Richard for organising skype chat with him .

Male hug from Brazil!

can we get a glossary???

I hope his book will be translated in many languages !

Awesome... THX

Epiphany-phase at 29-32? A little late i think, i would say it starts early as 24/25, there are plenty "women" today who have a double digit n-count in their early 20s. At 25 some crack 50+, in 5 to 10 years sexual activity, they already look worn out due to partying every weekend for years with plenty alcohol, cigarettes and occasional drug use. Women who are worthy of a LTR are nowadays close to a myth, no wonder they're called "unicorns". So if you date someone above 23, beware. But around the 30 year mark it becomes incredible obvious. 49:00 come on... you may never can leave the game, but you can exploit it. Still no reason to engage on a personal romantic/sexual level if they don't want to, spoiler alert, some humans get drained from ANY social interaction, so no reason to spend any energy on energy thieves.

Do you recommend the Red Pill movie?

great video

love his book...wish I read it in my 40's

Guys. Just buy the book. It’s like $9 on Amazon. The Rational Male.

I like the interview, but man you gotta stop cutting the off so abruptly. He’s dropping gems

Strange how we can shift back and forth between alpha and omega and everything in between throughout our lives until a BPD wrecks us and, in doing so, wake us up. I thank her, that wretched trollop.

A lot of males that Excel at game fall back into being a beta male in relationships, especially if they are with a girl with borderline personality or narcissism, because they are actually co-dependent and need to recover from that. You can have equal value but realize you need to lead the interaction. But it's based on reading where shes at or wants things to go.

Dude Rollo I did the same thing holy crap!

Shame the audio is a bit wonky on this

@21:53 Yes. I don't think Paul Elam ever said that he's about equality. Equal value - yes. Equal responsibility - yes. Equal treatment in the eyes of the law - yes. Equality as in, men and women are the same - no. He never said that. @28:10 And yet numerous screenings of the film were shut down... Why would universities care if some feminist changes her mind about being one and puts it on film? You think that the University of Calgary cares about Cassie Jay?

Think about it...Crazy in bed Crazy out of bed!

Who in the hell needs an M5 BMW when you can be signing in the terrain with a Subaru Forester that's well equipped for only $27,997*? *Random fucking charges will apply whenever​ we feel like it!

I have enjoyed this channel immensely for Richard's advice on women. Here is where I was introduced to Paul Elam who so far is the Master when it comes to advice on women and relationship. This guy, Rollo Tomassi? The audio was poor, but I think he said he's married now for twenty years? That's not even in the same league as any guy going through or has gone through a divorce or dated in the last twenty years. His portrayal of himself is pretentious, yet he comes off as a nervous insecure babbling assclown. I couldnt even listen to the whole talk.

Great info here. Young men absolutely need informational awareness taught in this feminized estrogen driven world. This is how guys Man Up! Glad I subscribed 🇺🇸

Best book I have read this year.

i guess the question is, how do we fight feminism? or should we even try?

This is a much healthier ideology than mgtow I wish more people saw this as a valid alternative but people prefer to blame other for their problems rather than themselves

The audio is ass. All you need to do to not drown out your guest every time you let out any sound is turn down your microphone. Hard to listen to for technical reasons.

Supid Ad. No "app" is going to "protect" anybody from active shooters. Armed security and awareness will help MORE.

Rollo Tomassi = fictional character in LA Confidential. Good movie BTW.

I once dated a BPD chick from australia (I'm in America--LDR) anywho she was crazy into sex and immature for her age... too childish. The cybersex had worn thin and she brought nothing new to the table.

DDJ?

Rolo Tomassi is definitely not speaker but great mind and writer.

Only time a chick says hell yes is if she ugly or you have so much power you’re the ultimate prize! Most guys are mediocre and will get meh women or end up chasing

Just watched The Red Pill documentary. Very powerful!

Ya, I don't completely agree with Rollo on all his thoughts and ideas. He is spot on with his explanation on how women are and how they operate. I do t agree with him in regards to his critisims in regards to Warren Farrell. Warren Farrell is spot on, especially with his information in his book, "The Myth of Male Power". I feel that Warren Farrell's thoughts and philosophies in regards to men and women dynamics are spot on. I agree with Rollo 50% of the time.

Apples and oranges both things are still healthy for ya mras mgtow rational male all ways of dealing with the problem can be useful

God relationships just feel / seem so toxic

It is a logical fallacy to say that because a certain characteristic belongs to a majority it therefore applies to all. Especially since there are counter examples. What I mean is that some women are more dominant and some men are more submissive and that has to do partly with genetics. Not all men are born to be "alpha" dogs, and some men will never be able to reach that status. Maybe they like it when a woman dominates and then that relationship could work just as well as its reverse. The best thing said here is that women aren't fairy tale magical creatures but real people, which is what the feminist movement has been saying all along. But you still need to see us as human beings rather than machines constantly slaves to instincts. The true "red pill" is recognizing that women are individuals. Treating us all the same is wrong because you're effectively creating a new matrix hooking up all women to the same machine.

great food for thought

All boils down to this....... Female ....do you want Sex tonight? Guy YES! are we doing things MY way......................Guy (yes) OWNED

I'm genuinely considering reading Rolo Tomassi's book. I wouldn't consider myself a MGTOW per se but I haven't actively pursued dating, relationships and sex in ten years. I'm thirty years old and though it doesn't bother me intellectually that I've never had sex I definitely can't shake the sexual frustration. It has gotten to the point where the thought of having a sex life is something bizarre. I know it's natural and that my biology probably won't relinquish that imperitive even though I could care less about participating in propagating the species. I wouldn't say that I've "given up" I just try not to give it too much sway over my other desires. I intellectualized it like this at one point. "If you want girlfriends, relationships, sex etc. you're going to have to approach women. Women by and large don't approach men, at least not directly. If you want something you're going to have to work for it, if not then don't bother." So I've basically decided that if it's not something I really want bad enough to go through the drudgery. I simply try to mitigate that seemingly mandatory drive. I do however agree with Rolo's point about how you're still going to have to interact with women. I'm certainly not unable to carry on conversations with women but I do admit that it's primarily work related, or if it's small talk it's still at work or get togethers that are planned by other friends. If I'm attracted to them it is challenging to not over think the situation, I just try to keep a level head and have a good time, entertaining myself if need be. This is bit of a rambling post but if you read it I just want to say I dig your channel. There are a great deal of intriguing ideas here worth repeating.

the true feminist movement was about equality in pay, rights to make reproduction choices, the right to vote, its not about the subjugation of men. if you think about it disney actually places men in roles as well. the ideal that man must be alpha males is ridiculous.happy wife happy life is not about women cutting your balls off and keeping them in a jar. its about appreciating your wife and contributing to her well being by being her partner in life.

How can a married man claim MGTOW? Also, can't women drive themselves?

I’m having trouble finding advice on something I went through with an ex recently. We only dated a few months. She is a very spiritual Christian girl who wanted wait til she was married. I’m 36 she is 23. She is extremely attractive. she told me she was very attracted to me cause I had a lot of confidence. She would constantly try to pull me into her frame very early in the relationship. I held my ground. A couple of weeks later all the sudden she’s giving me handjobs. I told her I wasn’t trying to have sex with her cause I respected her decision and think it’s honorable. Shortly after she’s comfortable with giving me HJs I find out she’s not a virgin (which I was lead to believe she was). She told me she was engaged before and she used to have sex. She was talking about marriage in a month of dating and asking about my health insurance and showed me all the medication she was on on the same day. All these were massive red flags and put a damper on my views of her. She would use the “I think I need to rethink our relationship” several times when I wanted to go out with my friends for a drink or watch a game. Another red flag. She dumps me when I went out for my friends birthday and constantly used her religious faith to justify her decisions. Less than a month after the break up. She has a “fb official” boyfriend who basically acts like she does and already saying they’re in love and they haven’t know each other a month. (Also, she didn’t want to be fb official with me.) because I think all her posts are about scripture while mine are mostly dank memes that I get some small measure of amusement. Q: do you think I was basically lied to and that she didn’t seem to be a very authentic person? Q: why would she waste her time with me when she knew I wasn’t going to enter into her frame. Q: do the rules of hypergamy still apply to religious/Christian values in women?

Great interview with Rollo, the behind The Rational Male! The only problem with RT is that he is a writer, not a speaker. Which is probably WHY he don't know when he should put his full stop in his yapping. Points are good, but his conversational skills seemed horrendous, which is ironic because it makes it sounded like it's all about him (and what he knows). Kinda like women eh?

Generally solid advice, but I cringe at Rollo's bashing of Paul Elam, who's always advocated a commitment to self improvement and true red pill philosophy. The reason he dislikes PUAs he's made clear, namely that most if them are really blue pill manginas who are desperately trying to learn techniques to increase their SMV because they've already placed women on a pedestal. Guys like Elam or Leykis would rather you work on yourself so she chases you instead. That's the real red pill victory

Great great great

this guy seems to still have some blue pill in him.

also promotion of gays and homosexuality has been from establishment culture, champagne liberals, academia etc.... why you guys still stay in the WEST I really dont get it. he he. good video though