I've had a video on my phone for years of Raven doing this crazy evil sounding laugh, and I had no clue until right now that that live w Kiely is where the video is from. The vibes of that live feel contentious af

Lmao well then Raven def was the best for Galleria because she seems like a diva who wanted to be the center of attention. The main person of the group.

@@emilyangel4real Raven naturally has that star quality to her. She’s the Beyoncé of Disney for a reason. No one would’ve done that part justice as Raven did. Galleria was the leader, level headed hardworking, and multitalented, which is Raven to a T.

@@TEXANSHAWTY no doubt. 👏 I hope you weren't thinking I was smashing Raven in any way, I definitely wasn't lol I grew up with That's so Raven being the only Disney Channel show I enjoyed to watch because it was the only kids show that made me laugh and was a really good show on bringing on real-world issues (the racism episode, the photoshop episode, etc) plus the Cheetah Girls, ugh I live for musicals BECAUSE OF THAT MUSICAL ❤️. I'm just still mad at Whitney for not taking on the role of Drinka, she could've played that role perfectly, for goodness sakes she produced the dang film. But probably just an availability clash or something 🤷‍♀️

sabrina was the dancer

Sabrina is way too much "I've seen this girl my whole life" type of look. I was tired of it even back then.

Definitely feel like Kiely was the filler. Sabrina added dance and stage presence even if vocally she couldn't contribute much. If Cheetah girls debuted as a trio, it would have worked sm better.

Omg yes!

@@LivBlanks lol and i'm sure you're a one of a kind beauty 😒 give me a break lmao she was and still is beautiful

She literally said she kept defending her. Kiely probably gaslit her into thinking she would never, all the while she is. She’s always seemed like a narcissist to me but I loved her in the movies

It’s “Adrienne” and I agree!

I knew Keily from 3LW, but yeah that was a dumb statement. I was best friends with a girl for years until she screwed me over. It doesn’t mean I was faking it when we were friends just because we aren’t now.

Well we knew her from 3LW so yeah there is that and she did it because why not she is also a singer, dancer and very pretty just like her and they would work close together like before. Fans loved 3LW so seeing both of them in the cheetah girls was not only shocking but a blast from the past.

I love ur pfp!

Maybe, but Solange still did well without, as she's now a Grammy winning artist.

Blame her father. Matthew Knowles was managing her and Destiny's Child.

Yess she would have taken it to the next level and then if Raven left it would have been spice girls all over again lol

Uh, no. Thank god she didnt take it. She would been stuck on the cheetah girl train for yeeears, like the rest of them. She would’ve been forever known as a cheetah girl. We might not have ever gotten the masterpiece she is today…

@@GameLover-pz5zcnot anymore

They talk a little about it on their KZfaq channel and have rerecorded some of their songs

Don’t let nobody tell you Your life is over

My only guess would be because of their religious background and you know how hollywood pretty much worships the devil lmao. Also them being a duo makes it harder for the higher ups to take advantage of compared to one child star.

Um they are still thriving . Look them up

@@ejpowerboyyes they are but they were seriously underrated even back in the day, they had like Nick Jonas level talent.

Kiely stay there for the last decades 😂😂😂😂

Yeah I always understood why Raven didn't want to get trapped into the girl group. Sure the movie was cute. But that's the thing it's not adult. Girl groups actually have very little power or control. Raven was an actor first anyway.

Her outcome was still the same. People know Symone because of her child acting, nothing else

Omg her song "Spectacular." 🤦🏽‍♀️

@@senpaisally69 She still has work. She is still making money. Sure she is not some big star but money is money. The thing is she seems happy in her personal life and that is what's important. Stardom in Hollywood isn't what it's cracked up to be. Especially for women.

Crazy as hell. they got that diverse coin and went right back to yt😂😂

While it is one, I think the best moment has to be Roger & Hammerstein’s Cinderella ☝🏽 I’ve NEVER seen another cast that was so diverse without it coming off as forced 💯

​@@user-kt4zg8jk5xwhich is what I crave, not diversity forced in my face and pointed out at every turn. R&H Cinderella handled it so very well

Agreed and it was so good for EVERY little girl watching this that’s why I loved them so much

@@cottoncandiez8872 never understand how in America people complain about diversity you just be white

Good marketing lol

lmaoo ikr

honestly 😭

I feel like my childhood has been destroyed since the beginning, they just joining me lmao

Not me

It's sad but true I had no idea.

Shady asf🤣🤣

Adrienne does it too XD

That never came to my mind. OMG

Raven had me crying this entire deep dive, like she really about that life 😭😭😭😭

Where was the context between Raven and Sabrina? what happened? Did I miss it?

Right cause they definitely wouldn’t have had beefs if solange was in it

AGREED!!!!! AT THAT TIME SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN HUGE PLUS BEY WAS PER USUAL KILLING IT TOO OMG BUT SOLANGE WOULD HAVE BEEN HUGE

Uhm let’s not act like solange has never been messy lol

😂😂😂😂😂

I mostly agree with you. Sabrina was a dancer at heart and wanted to get into acting. And stayed with singing with CG to advance her career. Which seemed to work because her dance career did bump after CG ended. I think to your point, Raven wasnt trying to go down the road Kiely and Adrienne wanted to. Again, no one thought the CG would become a phenomenon.

​@@vitohoney5911yeah Sabrina definitely wasn't a singer. A dancer that was for sure trying to advance her career. She could hold a note, but did not at all have the vocal level of the other girls, that's why she had almost no solos in the songs. She had some, but they were short. Even in her dance solo in CG2, Belinda sang the song. She was a pretty good actor though.

For real. I'm south-american and watched all of these shows and movies with Spanish dubs, which means that up until very recently I didn't even know most of these kids ALSO served as voice actors on top of everything else. They acted, recorded albums, toured, did press, attended media training/dancing/singing/acting clases, it all sounds like too much even for an adult.

@@GioGio-fq1vl right?? That’s a beyond a heavy workload!! If they tried to make an. adult take on all of that they’d laugh in their face and demand more money or tell them where to go. But for some reason they seem to think that kids have boundless energy and endurance to do all the work

@@Peajay007 Unfortunately there weren't that many laws protecting child entertainers back in the day, which is why some of these networks (I'm also talking Nickelodeon) got away with so much. I don't know if those regulations have changed, hopefully they have. I've noticed that more and more shows lately are hiring adults to play teens.

I think the biggest problem was how good the movie worked. At that point, Disney Channel movies were just something you watched on a Friday evening and forget the following week. No one could’ve seen coming how big the movie would’ve been plus Raven being in an equally successful show. That’s So Raven and The Cheetah Girls marked a new era of Disney, it was just bad luck for Raven to have been a part of that at such a young age.

But she MADE the cheetah girls!! She was my favorite cheetah girl and I know I'm not the only one

Unfortunate because these girls where very talented

Exactly. She even admitted it herself by saying she’s “difficult”. Like no, honey. You’re a mean girl.

It makes sense. Her mom was the manager and probably propped up her ego more so than focusing on her talent. It ends up sabotaging the child star when people with more talent enter the arena. Similar thing happened with Hilary Duff when her mom sabotaged Lizzie Mcguire 2.

i hate her omg

The most insecure and underqualified....💀💀

Ok calling Sabrina, “Dorinda” is really ignorant, because she’s unproblematic and just minded her business.

@@christiansoto1367girl boo

That is exactly pathetic and sad that you need to see others gain weight in order to feel better about yourself gaining weight as in you feel less guilty because you see others are doing it too when deep down you know it’s still not ok.

@@sandiego2380If you missed the point, raise your hand…

@@sandiego2380 I mean, I don't think weight gain is the fault of an 8 year-old? That is a child, and children are kind of famous for having very little personal agency.

Majority black or brown is not "diversity". Just say the cast wasn't white and you liked that. 🙄

@@skip031890 i think they mean diversity in the sense of disney shows as a whole, a cast that wasn't completely or majority white was diverse among the other shows and movies.

there were 2 black girls, a white girl and a latina, which IS DIVERSE, you just lump all the non white members together against the one white member and just feel like it’s not white enough for you, you seem to have a problem with a non predominantly white ensemble.

@@skip031890 Two black girls, one latina and one white girl is diverse especially during an era where everyone was blonde, white and basic-looking. That look is very boring and people wanted more, get over it

@@skip031890it is diverse considering everything else on every station except BET was white

Saame ☺️ growing up we needed the diversity

Yes. I wish girl/boy groups became a thing again other than just SK. But there are some global groups coming out. I would like to see more BlackSwan type groups too.

I’ve never seen anyone else with a user name spelled like mine, hi! 🩷

Same here

I straight up thought they were the Bratz when I was little but like under a different name like the barbie movies

She’s the common denominator in the end of 3LW & CG

​@@lizdiaz2277everyone has apologized for things they've done , why is she te only one at fault?

The fact that they make her seem like a good one in this video

No one is making her seem like the good one, she just didn't have much power in Cheetah Girls like she did 3LW@@musicchannel-ut7vg

@@sonamy1231000 Because for some reason, people need to have a villian all the damn time

Agree

Mh no, I highly disagree. And the why is just simple as that: those you’re talking about who “apologized” they just did in front of a camera/in a specific circumstance. To keep it straight, just for the spotlight, to come out clean in order not to be painted as “bad guys”. They’re also commonly known as narcissist, sounds familiar? Unfortunately I had much in my life that I can tell and that’s why I always teamed up with Kiely and Sabrina. They seem the evil ones because they’re not pretending to be the candy mesmerizing girlies as Raven and Adrienne. I don’t say that Kiely is a saint either, but she gave me the vibe that if ever did something wrong, it’s for a reason. Also, the obvious cause of the group disband are still Raven and Adrienne for the same reason someone already commented and also I did these years here and there. And don’t get me wrong, as a kid when the movies came out I always preferred them to the others. But analyzing them better I noticed that something’s not right.

@@Frutebrute69 actually, uhm…this kind of person does (and I think it’ll include you too at this point 😅)! Unfortunately I ran into this people, including my own family members, very often…so I know about that more than you can imagine. And yeah, also them will induce good people like me to go to therapy; I can’t deny I was going to do it and one day surely will because the pain they cause is enormously huge. I dealt with narcissistic/toxic people all my life and trust me, if they don’t kill you physically they will mentally and emotionally. Like I always say, of course by experience: they’re the evil in person.

So ... we not gonna say her name? lol

​@@lexiocYou're making excuses

Ikr

She didn’t do nothing wrong

Wtf does race have anything to do with anything.......

@@totezmagoatzit was a big deal because back then ​​⁠ mainstream girl groups aimed at tweens were either all white or majority white.

​@@totezmagoatzit is a VERY BIG DEAL! Y'all racists man.....BLACK is NOT a bad word! 😂😂😂😂

@@tamcar04 no but victim mentality IS bad.

​@@totezmagoatz what part of that is victim mentality?? theyre just talking about their past experiences and how important the Cheetah Girls was to their childhood

Hmmm explicit material lead to Kim Kardashians success so maybe there was some sort of influence from them.

Fr! They could even do a basic premise like Girlz 5eva where one or two of the girls suggests a reunion because nostalgia is hot right now.

@@gypsywoman9140 no tht would be cringe I think they need to be the new mama cheetah for the next generation of cheetahs.

The should reboot it how they did Raven’s home. Have Galleria and Chanel coaching and managing a new girl group. It’ll be lit

Sabrina really should have gotten with the winning team because Kiely is a dead end career wise lol

@@WildtingzSabrina was an innocent by stander in all of this, I wouldn’t be surprised if Keily bullied her into a friendship

@@tajsimms8976they're still friends today.... 💀💀💀💀

@@billy28061100I mean you can be manipulated even as an adult.

Raven and Adrienne are not best friends they’re industry friends lol Sabrina and Kelly were in each others weddings . Raven found out Adrienne had a baby through a interviewer that’s hardly friendship

same girl it aired on my birthday too!! yasss and Belinda has our bday! ❤🎉

I second this.

Black femininity tv has one that’s really good! I think empressive channel did one too

Her and Adrienne made that group☕️

3LW Next, Please...!!!

YASSS I NEED THIS ONE HERE C

Same. If Raven isn't there, I'm not going.

Raven could've if she wanted to but decided not to

Raven was there are clickbait basically they used her so that people would be interested in watching but I don’t think she was in the actual girl group

I didn’t like the 3rd movie anyways

​@@leasirenee6327they were over to me after that 😂😂

raven funny asffff 😂😂😂

I heard Keely was the problem too but I don't remember the reason why.

You can just tell from the IG live Kiely does not get it. Raven is spelling it out for her and she misses the message. Probably the norm for her.

​​@@crystalshaw8744 I read there was a lot jealousy from her, because Raven was already established and successful with her own show. So Kiely tried to single her out of the group, Raven said she felt excluded, and there where fights I read as well between them.

I didn't care to watch the 3rd movie without Raven in it. She carried the group and they did her dirty by releasing the sequel despite her not being in it.

I didn't even watch Cheetah girls 3 because Raven wasn't in it. Raven is one of my favorite actresses so when she left I left. Never even watched it don't want to watch it I really just like Raven. The rest were okay too I'm not saying they weren't, but my favorite one was Raven.

At the time she was trying to go solo too

Seems like she took a play out of the Kim K playbook.

​@@mannyjohnson4539true but she damn near ruined her career well she did with Disney

I blame Disney. They like to keep control of their people. And yet Disney messed so many of them up.

Kris jenner told her, if she wants to be a super star must leak some Shit

Yesss I thought that was so weird. I was like they took away her accent and everything lol

and that stupid Tx accent😂😂 the fact that they had a Texan for the role😂

*period*

Raven and Adrienne hardly ever acknowledge her, which means they not fond of her or are cool with her but also don't have anything that deep against her

@@joshg7120Right and they both refer to her as DORINDA

I think it's because she's Kiely's best friend. It seems like a guilty by association thing. It doesn't seem like Raven and Adrienne dislike Sabrina per se.

Well there are obviously some issues it’s just not as touched on as much… which is why Raven and Adrienne keeps saying will do something but with just us… I do think there is definitely something going on with her as well…but she is just Dorinda to them so they don’t care

They actually do...nobody talks about it...but years ago, she and the other one were speaking bad of Raven and Adrinne...she is not innocent...

I think they had to stop her from putting hands on Aqua 😂

It was bc of kiely lmao, I read something on Google about her being jealous of Raven regarding the Cosby show

Apparently during filming of the 2nd movie Kiely revealed on set that raven was gay and of course raven wasn’t ready to share that at the time and she was ready to throw hands on her but debrah took raven aside and talked to her that’s why she said ‘if it wasn’t for her I would of been in jail’

@@Laurenlife yeah I that rumor but Kiely say she wasn't never trying to out her She'll Never Do That

aqua and rave were both black gurls so aqua def felt jealous of raven

I’m glad that others see it too. She doesn’t look to well. She doesn’t seem content like the other women. It’s a form of karma in a sense, she thought that her ties would protect her. She has beautiful kids and what seems like a good hubby. However, her talking about the b2k members and sleeping with multiple members back then was crazy. I’m thinking you’re married with kids, why are you even bringing this up. She was rude to naturi from 3LW. She has an history of being problematic. She needs to heal. I know that her sister raised her. Her biological mom died in childbirth with her from what I’ve heard. I watched some old KZfaq videos and that show she had on BET, she drinks a lot of wine. I’m wondering does she use that as an outlet.

IDK She doesn't have any makeup on and Adrienne and Raven have at the very least had botox.

@@chacha2321Raven and Adrienne had success after, Kiely didn’t really. Maybe a bit part here and there but she never got to be the true Hollywood starlet like the other 2. Raven has always been “too cool for school” so to speak; both her and Adrienne come off as uppity and fake as hell. Always have.

I'm not sure if I like this painting of the "evil, jealous woman" in this story as looking rough and older, while the more fan favorite, more successful women obviously look more conventionally attractive (which is definitely not because they're still entertainers and get cosmetic touch ups /s) Not that cosmetic procedures are bad, or that I'm judging these women, but is it that hard not to correlate a woman's appearance to her actions?

@@loureedpipes thank you this had to be said

I remember lol. I always disliked it because I had always assumed that they pushed her out of the movie and group cuz Raven was the heaviest and I thought that was messed up. Now I know it was so much worse than that.

THIS!

I feel like she would have been too old for the role

She would’ve been a great fit. But I also think Keily made the group perfect! She gave the clueless quirky Houston girl next door. Disregard her being messy & difficult to deal with in girl groups. She was an definitely an amazing dancer

@@icekoldvexcept she didn’t play Houston well. Her accent was bad and didn’t even make it into the second movie. Solange was actually from Houston and could bring that swag naturally. Also she would’ve sounded better on these songs ngl.

she doesn't play well with others lol

Yeah, bad management, she could have done the movie and after that drop her album. Probably we would have another great big artist by now.

Solange did become a big artist in her own right. Her album went number one and she won a grammy for it in 2017.

@@brittanytiera32992017? You do realize this movie dropped in 2002?

No she didn’t miss anything actually… I’m the end it’s just a memory and nothing more than that…

@@brittanytiera3299living in her sisters shadow. Grammys don’t even matter anymore.

what a surprise , she's eating?!!?!!

​@@kammandebenevolence5505that is all you are getting from this comment What a surprise 😂

@@laurafabianmarrero All that I'm getting is someone pointed out that a Raven is stuffing her face , as if that is supposed to be a remarkable event or some virtue signaling of how laid back she is about being overweight and just not having the self restraint to even stop eating for a phone call or something. >>>> Now what would actually surprise me is if she called while she was out on a walk or something , cause the only running Raven ever seems to do, is of her mouth, which is likely to keep her jaw muscles strong for all that food she keeps hovelling in there. >>>> I find here as entertaining as the next person, just for different reasons than what is conventional these days

@@kammandebenevolence5505 she is free to do whatever she wants Looks like You áre focusing on the wrong thing. Cause of your dislike of Raven She loves to eat Is that a crime Geez 🤡🤡🤡

@@kammandebenevolence5505 Late to the party. Hello everyone. I think the focus is more on how unbothered she is, something you might be able to take a note on? Like I’m not even a huge Raven fan, but nearly writing a dissertation on the specifics of why you vehemently dislike someone you’ve never met (on top of body shaming lmao) seems just a bit….excessive?

Absolutely true.

Maybe I'm dead inside then? She hammed it up too much, it was really "Disney" acting from her.

Ouch...guess i am. But i am more nickelodeon kid.

Y'all are just hating on Kiely because she's light skin. Keep it real.

​@@BiracialTanika She is not light skin, just brown. Also, talent is talent, regardless of color, and Naturi has definitely gone on to be more successful in the entertainment world than Kiely. In fact, if she hadn't been picked for the Cheetah Girls, we might not have seen Kiely again after 3LW ended.

@@gazellehelene5380 If Kiely is brown then what is light skin? No pigmentation at all?😂

@@gazellehelene5380 I agree with you, it's just that a lot of people are making the issues between 3LW a color issue when it was really just a couple of mean girls doing what mean girls do. I think Naturi isn't comfortable in her own skin because she did the same thing to Lil Kim and Kim never said nothing about her color. All Kim wanted was an unknown actress from the Bronx to play as her in Notorious.

Naturi didn’t audition.

I think they had chemistry during the filming of the 2nd movie & photoshoots but it wasn't real because of behind the scenes issues. Kiely was the ring leader of the trio, so if she didn't like someone & iced them out then the other two (Adrienne & Sabrina) did the same. That means Raven was iced out from the other 3 during filming of CG2 & she left the franchise soon after that.

@GameLover-pz5zc When I watch TCG2, I can see that Kiely and Raven, in particular, weren't feeling each other. It's noticeable when they performed on GMA as well. It's subtle things, it's not necessarily "in our faces".

I felt the tension. In the first cheetah girls when the scene Where galleria wanted to the jackal Johnson instead of the talent show when aqua approached raven that was tense even for the scene

@@GameLover-pz5zc they definitely didn’t have chemistry in the second. The first movie yes cause they were actually friends/cool with each other but you can tell their was definitely some tension in the second one

Sounds about white

Except Solange did very well on her own though.

@@GameLover-pz5zcCranes in the Sky is definitely her best song. Wish it could of been a massive hit after its release.

It’s weird they resented her for that when they’ve had several successful tours without her

And that Bring it On film was one of the best in the franchise

@@jasminedeadlymagmitenot better than the first one, sorry

But the Cheetah girls went on to have sequels and even release albums and go on tour. Cheetah girls is still being talked about to this day. Her team fumbled by making her release her debut album so early. They thought she could ride off of Beyoncé’s fame instead of developing her own image. If she did the Cheetah Girls she would have built her own fan base before going solo.

At times? like when you press play

Lmao I didn’t even know that was beyonces sister wow tbh I didn’t even know she had a career I’ve only known her from the elevator incident with jay z💀

I honestly always thought it was pronounced sih-moan. Even back in the Cosby days when she was an adorable child.

Symone is her middle name

​@@DavidKen878isn't her last name Pearlman?

The rest of us reading this comment thread: 🙄

its part of her 1st her middle name is christina@@soulangel835a

OMG that makes so much sense lol

TRUE LOL

sooo true😂

I was a teen from the start of the show and had pretty much outgrown it by the time Raven left. I completely lost interest by the time she came back but I did wonder why she disappeared.

Oh so Disney never explained it

@tajsimms8976 Idk maybe they did? Or like things about the group dynamics and Raven would be kinda mentioned once in a while in interviews or something like that, in a super fake nice way lol. Cause they probably had to address her absence somewhat. But it was like oh she's just really busy with other projects type of thing. I keep thinking it was like this mainly unspoken thing it was so odd. I had no idea it was so messy lol but at the time I was pretty young. And it was confusing cause I just couldn't tell what they actually were.

Kiely is def the problem that’s why I lowkey want a reboot of the cheetah girls without her

After watching that reality show "Encore" it became obvious kiely was the problem in her group

Yeah they “dumb blonde”-ed her

Omg so I read your comment, looked for the song, listened and I completely forgot about that song 🥺 thanks girl 🫶🏼

You mean songs , they heard 3 days ago. Lol

@jaredjams4267 right 🤣

They seem to not be cool with Sabrina either. I bet it's mostly because Sabrina like Kiely ultimately blames Adrienne for the demise of the Cheetah Girls and since Adrienne and Raven had mended things - Raven has chosen to side with Adrienne which means she's against Sabrina.

Well Adrienne has mentioned dorindas character if they were to redo a film, so it seems like shes chill with her but maybe not besties

It doesn’t seem like they’re close at all. Maybe just on speaking terms more than anything, but I think it’s more the association with Kiely that possibly puts them off. I can’t see any sort of animosity between them and Sabrina. Though, Sabrina follows raven, Adrienne and Kiely on insta, but Raven and Adrienne don’t follow Sabrina. Raven even follows Kiely, so only god knows.

Yeah, it seems like they're just acquaintances.

Omg thank you 🥹💜

Someone mentioned to Deborah Martin Chase about a cheetah girls reunion and she said she’s been waiting to do that for so long and she said she’s not giving up on it

NO. No Sabrina or Kiely, no Cheetah Girls.

​@@chadpopulisjr243Girl please 😂😂😂

They are so shady and need healing

We're they not in a band together too, 3 something...?

​@@LoonZoomBoo Yes 3LW.

Adrienne kind of eluded to there needing to be an apology from Kiely to Naturi, after she herself apologized to Naturi on The Real for harassing her and assaulting her with food.

They need to make a biopic!

Of course it’s underrated. The algorithm won’t like this channel to tell the young masses the truth

But you're not even gonna admit what Adrienne did was messed up? Adrienne lied to her fans about the whole laptop debacle which is what ultimately ended the Cheetah Girls - something they all worked on so hard together all because Adrienne didn't want to be a Disney star anymore. It's pretty messed up to go behind your friend's backs and sabotage their careers like that all for your own gain.

@@basskitten808.exactly

@@basskitten808. oh, I could've sworn I only mentioned Tse and Kiely. Never said Adrienne was in the right........

​ @basskitten808. Adrienne may or may not have leaked her nudes but the Cheetah Girls contracts were up by 2009 regardless. Disney wasn't going to keep them for long as they planned on moving forward with newer shows & newer franchises. As for Adrienne and Kiely's friendship, that ended around the same time the group broke up, all because Adrienne had enough of Kiely & her family's ways. They haven't spoken since.

@@basskitten808.honestly I couldn’t care less about the laptop thing lol

lmaooooo 😂😂😂

I'm guessing you weren't keeping up with the Kardashians 😂

Solange is a Grammy award winning artist, she's doing just fine now.

They had them on Disney plus

@@MsDisneylandlover I know about now but back in 08 when they dated