DEF CON 31 - There Are No Mushroom Clouds in Cyberwar - Mieke Eoyang

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DEFCONConference

8 ай бұрын

This presentation will discuss the history of cyberwarfare, highlighting the misconceptions between nuclear deterrence and the nature of cyber conflict. It will shed light on this association in popular culture, including in movies like "WarGames," which influenced then President Ronald Reagan and fed his concerns about potential hacking into U.S. weapons systems. These concerns and other influences helped to shape early perceptions about the cyber domain, which immediately became intertwined with notions of strategic weapons and catastrophic effects. In subsequent decades, continued theorizing about cyberwarfare envisioned strategic cyber attacks that could cause decisive effects, stoking fears of a "Cyber Pearl Harbor." However, the reality is that cyber operations are ephemeral and cyber effects are hard to attribute and are rarely decisive. The turning point in U.S. cyber strategy occurred in lead up to the 2018 midterm election, with the adoption of a new approach focused on defending forward, which involved actively disrupting malicious cyber activity before it affected the U.S. Homeland. This strategy was further informed by Russia’s 2022 invasion of Ukraine, which demonstrated how cyber capabilities may be used in large-scale conventional conflict. Looking ahead, in terms of protecting Americans and strengthening our global Allies and partners, we know that private industry and individual volunteers will play a critical role, including many of the participants at DEF CON. This recognition acknowledges that cyberwarfare is pervasive and requires collective engagement.

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@kehet4409
@kehet4409 6 ай бұрын
How to say something without actually saying anything
@Jump-2-the-moon
@Jump-2-the-moon 8 ай бұрын
I get it, cyber war is not as bad as big boomy things. What’s the takeaway from this presentation?
@Distortion0
@Distortion0 8 ай бұрын
Military still no understand computer.
@andrewferguson6901
@andrewferguson6901 8 ай бұрын
Career bureaucrat in intelligence becomes talking head on cable news becomes high ranking civilian in DoD. Classified. Cyber. We were wrong about some things. Cyber cyber. Ukraine so brave so strong. Cyber cyber. prc scary, so scary we won't use their common name. Cyber. We are hiring, pls apply. Thank you
@Notelloceel
@Notelloceel 7 ай бұрын
@@andrewferguson6901 characterizing cyberspace as an extension of the battlefield and suggesting the option of killing people (aka 'kinetics) has to be considered in the context of automated detection and response. People are already being killed based on fuzzy attribution and telling stories with metadata. Further automation in this space will be increasingly harmful.
@Dripl0mat
@Dripl0mat Ай бұрын
This Glows...
@itsme7570
@itsme7570 8 ай бұрын
So how exactly do we help with identifying these attackers? Like if I come across what I believe is a state sponsored hacking group or cyber criminal organization X how do I inform them? They need a better space and system for communicating with people like us from all over.
@itsme7570
@itsme7570 7 ай бұрын
@@AntonKushnir-gy8yn tf does that have to do with what I'm talking about
@glitchsister
@glitchsister 7 ай бұрын
​@@itsme7570no Anton might be correct here, wearing a mask is about the only thing you can do, just like sitting under a desk during a nuke, because the amount of social media sites without an abuse support email publicly listed or just not having one is staggering
@jamestaylor3805
@jamestaylor3805 7 ай бұрын
​@@itsme7570his comment is an example what happens when someone takes the anarchist mindset to an extreme. In all things a balance must be found... and that ain't it.
@silly_willi
@silly_willi 6 ай бұрын
JCDC was already stood up a couple of years ago now in an attempt to address some of the issues she is talking about in terms of the idea of "help [us] cyber." By the end of this video it seems she is either recruiting or asking for free research/threat/attack reporting to be brought to the DoD to help them. I'll be honest, I don't visit the JCDC website for anything. It does not appear to provide anything useful to the public. Big tech has its own cyber concerns to track and monitor. It doesn't need to add watching the DoD's back for free to its list of priorities... www.cisa.gov/topics/partnerships-and-collaboration/joint-cyber-defense-collaborative
@jakedill1304
@jakedill1304 6 ай бұрын
I mean.. there could be mushroom clouds if you do it right.. sure there was a tangential archetype of such in that Iranian nuclear power plant.. can't speak to if there was a mushroom cloud though.. but if you could do that I'm sure you could kind of make that one work if that's really what you want, which it might be.. just you know.. depends on what you're trying to do next Thursday I guess.
@NeverTrust298
@NeverTrust298 Ай бұрын
DEFCON NSA/CIA/FBI/DoD SPONSORED THIS IS ALL THE EVIDENCE WE NEED
@chrisphoenix115
@chrisphoenix115 7 ай бұрын
but they never helped us....
@WinnerSigma14
@WinnerSigma14 4 ай бұрын
I saw ya'll on the darkweb
@Shackleford_Rusty
@Shackleford_Rusty 7 ай бұрын
Legal authority…… gtfo
@jamestaylor3805
@jamestaylor3805 7 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a mixed bag presentation for the audience. I get what she's trying to do/say and think that she's being honest about it for her part, but she's a little off an what she assumes will resonate with this group.
@jamestaylor3805
@jamestaylor3805 7 ай бұрын
She specifically speaks on "commercial" replacements to Ukrainian net access and not just "alternative" replacements... it's the little things.
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