DEFENDER 2020. Hype Vs Reality | 4xOverland

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4 жыл бұрын

The number of news releases telling of the release of the Land Rover Defender 2020 is equalled only by the hype that's come with it. Andrew St Pierre White separates hype from reality. This is not a review. It's a commentary on the hype versus the reality.
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@noobsoff-road
@noobsoff-road 4 жыл бұрын
That was a bloody brilliant video. Factual and non biased. I'm hoping someone at JLR sees this and gives you a Defender 110 on coils to do with what you please for a year so that we can get a real "feel" for what it's really like....
@ErnestByaruhanga
@ErnestByaruhanga 4 жыл бұрын
There is no coil sprung 110. Only the 90
@aweaklingify
@aweaklingify 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree, fantastic, best video of anything I've watched for quite some time
@jeffkeith637
@jeffkeith637 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of opinion, rather. Quite a few suppositions. A lot of good opinions based on prior experience, but there's no experience with the new version yet, so that, as he says, makes this a case of commentary on the release notes from LR and that's it. I am looking forward to 2030 when I may be able to afford a 2021MY.
@kichaa13
@kichaa13 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, factual and unbiased from someone who has only seen the car on KZfaq. Cool story.
@johnferguson4857
@johnferguson4857 4 жыл бұрын
I hope Andrew gets involved with the grenadier being built next year
@Michael_Mears
@Michael_Mears 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew, you don't get cars to review because you tell it like it is...and they don't like that.
@kylebudd3664
@kylebudd3664 4 жыл бұрын
@@grievuspwn4g3 car wow haven't done a review yet .... they have done a introductory video scripted by landrover, they do good reviews, in their disco 5 review they even mentioned reliability.
@TheSpoovy
@TheSpoovy 4 жыл бұрын
@@grievuspwn4g3 Most of the UK car press is wholly in the pay of whoever advertises most with them unfortunately; you can't believe a word you read on just about any of the well known sites.
@daviemaclean61
@daviemaclean61 4 жыл бұрын
@@grievuspwn4g3 JLR only invited the top four selling car magazines (I'm old school - I still read stuff off paper!) in the UK, which did not include LR Monthly or LR Owner International!
@roryblake3232
@roryblake3232 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't yet follow him check out BOLTR. Ave puts his finger on it. Brands and their "marketing wank" They don't like people exposing their flawed, value-engineered products.
@andrewnorris5415
@andrewnorris5415 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, his review was very positive about its capabilities off road. I thought the standard industry reviewers did not go into that much, they usually drive cars.
@tituspullo9210
@tituspullo9210 4 жыл бұрын
As always, an insightful analysis. What makes me laugh is that you have not even been in front of one and this review is more in-depth than people who were looking at the vehicle in the flesh at the Frankfurt motor show. Nice one Andrew 👍👍👍
@vod8008
@vod8008 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect comment and I agree totally!
@tituspullo9210
@tituspullo9210 4 жыл бұрын
@@goldenboyi1989 And who pissed in your porridge?
@roryblake3232
@roryblake3232 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@tituspullo9210
@tituspullo9210 4 жыл бұрын
@@goldenboyi1989 So where is the video of your analysis? And I think your tightly whities are maybe a bit too tight. Eat a snickers and calm down
@LIVINSPAC
@LIVINSPAC 4 жыл бұрын
@@goldenboyi1989 absolutely right
@vibhupathak6638
@vibhupathak6638 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely blown away by how genuinely passionate this fella is regarding off-roading vehicles very rarely one comes across such healthy obsession... Thoroughly impressed and subscribed the channel
@arturovillegas3143
@arturovillegas3143 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I'm in Costa Rica, so how can I service a car that breaks down in the middle of a farm located in the mountain, that I have to cross a river full of rocks, I agree, I can't find parts in any place, plus buying the tires in case one gets destroyed would be impossible if it's size 22 or 18, plus air suspension doesn't work in mud and on sand, so the first generation still has time to make a durable off road that can stand pain, a roof tent without checking the local needs, our Land Rover dealer here in Costa Rica has some interesting testing for it's new arrivals, plus all electronics must stand weather issues such as rain and heat, that in my country goes to extreme, you can be in the middle of a beach with burning hot heat and 2 hours later you can be in the middle of a swamp with 90% of humidity, for example the Jeep Wrangler rubbers, plastics and wires don't stand moisture and heat in the USA and Canada, because of cheap materials that they are built on, now the question is how they are going to tackle such weather conditions for countries such as India, Australia, Canada and of course out the Latin America and African continent, I would like to see a Defender Camel trophy inspired competition so I can see the 110 and 90 in action, having to deal with mud, rivers and other lovely things that the tropical forest has to offer.
@noelmarapachi1808
@noelmarapachi1808 4 жыл бұрын
Vibhu Pathak me too buddy
@stuarth43
@stuarth43 3 жыл бұрын
@@arturovillegas3143 try Australia 400km from the nearest house
@patrickcowan8701
@patrickcowan8701 4 жыл бұрын
Well they definitely increased the resale price of old defender's.
@Flaminuggboot
@Flaminuggboot 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I'd bought one a few years ago. In Australia the used ones are being sold for silly money.
@diegosuarezdelreal5904
@diegosuarezdelreal5904 4 жыл бұрын
@@Flaminuggboot its impossible to find one in the US under 45k
@lucienwinter4515
@lucienwinter4515 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha they absolutely did
@georgejohnson1498
@georgejohnson1498 4 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine who is farmer in Shropshire wanted to replace a Defender short wheel base five cylinder diesel - owned from new. Too late; the old Defender was discontinued. He waited for the new thing called Defender, and decided to spend enough to bring his old Land Rover back as good as new with a complete rebuild. It will last another twenty years now. Longer than any of these new things called the Defender. Land Rover have just created another over-complicated Chelsea tractor for the school run.
@dash4177
@dash4177 4 жыл бұрын
They built a cordless drill when we wanted a hammer
@eyeswideopen2536
@eyeswideopen2536 4 жыл бұрын
Excuse the pun but you nailed it
@derfranz5770
@derfranz5770 4 жыл бұрын
First and foremost, JL is a company, with the purpose to deliver value to its shareholders, meaning to deliver profit. As more people on the marketplace want to buy cordless drills instead of old-fashioned hammers, the new Defender proposition has been chosen rightly so!
@pmnfernando
@pmnfernando 4 жыл бұрын
one can use anything as a hammer. conscious use paired up with ultimate goal (in what one is trying to hammer) will determine lifespan. would i get this cordless drill. No
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that this cordless drill looks like a leaf blower.
@richardsprojects
@richardsprojects 4 жыл бұрын
Just tried my hammer , cant get it to drill a hole or put a screw in
@Northmansland
@Northmansland 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t care about new Defender! Please, tell me the difference between an African and Australian mosquito nets?
@ontsejuniordigwa1176
@ontsejuniordigwa1176 4 жыл бұрын
I too was waiting on that one. ha ha ha
@zaneh6224
@zaneh6224 4 жыл бұрын
+Northmansland Australia has midge flies, these are smaller than the regular mosquito netting holes, so they can go straight through regular mosquito netting, any tent netting needs to be midge netting which has very small openings.
@Northmansland
@Northmansland 4 жыл бұрын
Zane H Thank you )))
@off_the_road
@off_the_road 4 жыл бұрын
@@zaneh6224 so why not use possible smallest net for all conditions?
@zaneh6224
@zaneh6224 4 жыл бұрын
@@off_the_road They are found mostly in coastal areas in Australia around lagoons etc, if you never camp around these types of areas there is no need for midge netting, Problem with the netting the openings have to be very small and this can restrict airflow inside the tent, making it hot inside, Australia coastal is hot during the warmer months so good airflow in a tent is essential so restricting airflow can make it very difficult to sleep :)
@musictomyeye
@musictomyeye 4 жыл бұрын
Solid, no bullshit analysis. Hope to hear your review after having a good drive and poke around its delicate bits.
@JasonDoege
@JasonDoege 4 жыл бұрын
99% of these will be traversing the very tough terrain between home and the grocer so...
@Slapbladder
@Slapbladder 4 жыл бұрын
School run mostly.....
@hughneek12
@hughneek12 4 жыл бұрын
I'll be the Indiana Jones of the local Tesco car park.
@VikingsNetworkAdmin
@VikingsNetworkAdmin 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, same is true for ANY off the shelf 4x4. People want to “look like” they are off roaders. Here in the states I see maybe one in 20 jeeps that actually leave the pavement. And that’s being very generous.
@2612greg
@2612greg 4 жыл бұрын
Except ho live in the countryside
@flatshootin2987
@flatshootin2987 3 жыл бұрын
Forget about driving it on sand.
@cedarcanoe
@cedarcanoe 4 жыл бұрын
You said it: the new Defender is what the successor of the Discovery 4 could have been.
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar Canoe I think if you dig deep enough the new defender is the old LR4. It is a very thorough reskin but needs a nose job to be a convincing Defender. replacement.
@Johndeerefan198
@Johndeerefan198 4 жыл бұрын
The LR4 was body on frame and this is not.
@yondubai2192
@yondubai2192 4 жыл бұрын
Not true, LR4/Discovery 4 is a BOF, the new defender is not.
@vedanthanwat7021
@vedanthanwat7021 4 жыл бұрын
Guys if you don't know discovery took its design ques from defender now defender has done the same !!! It was bound to happen !
@TheShireOverland
@TheShireOverland 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sure, it is what I told them last weekend, it is a incredible Discovery, but not a Defender, no, no not a Defender anymore.... And now what will be the future of the New Discovery.????
@SimonKinsella
@SimonKinsella 4 жыл бұрын
I wish Toyota would see the utilitarian hole left in the UK by the old Defender and bring us the 70!
@aloooonee
@aloooonee 4 жыл бұрын
What is the reason for not selling them in the UK and US?. It is weird.
@frankbrown9618
@frankbrown9618 4 жыл бұрын
You are right! the 70 would have many buyers and can't understand why Toyota doesn't want to bring it in UK, US and EU. Suzuki undersood the matter and came out with the new Jimney which is having big success. C'mon Toyota, wake up!
@loganholmberg2295
@loganholmberg2295 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankbrown9618 The Jimney is not available in North America. Why that is? It bugs the shit out of me.
@SteviePeeOutDoorLife
@SteviePeeOutDoorLife 4 жыл бұрын
@@loganholmberg2295 there is no Suzuki car Network anymore in North America.
@mhalley5
@mhalley5 4 жыл бұрын
Faisal VG - chicken tax, emissions, crash tests would make it hard work and expensive.
@ricardoterleira
@ricardoterleira 4 жыл бұрын
Man, i look forward to seeing part2; The one you actually have it in your hands and deconstruct it. Great video!!
@asadsankar589
@asadsankar589 4 жыл бұрын
When you said that you were reviewing the defender,I was sceptical. But I'm subscribing. And that video is just awesome for the unbiased review based on facts that you've collected via experience. Thank you.
@bobbymulwee7641
@bobbymulwee7641 4 жыл бұрын
The most advanced piece of tech I want in my 4x4's is my smartphone. I am excited to see one lifted with bigger tires and bumpers.
@turkyal-otaibi4403
@turkyal-otaibi4403 4 жыл бұрын
Bobby Mulwee 😂😂😂👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 4 жыл бұрын
A 4x4 "squared" version on portal axles and 37's would be awesome!
@harro9447
@harro9447 4 жыл бұрын
Simplicity is key 🔑
@stonewp
@stonewp 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! The most advanced infotainment any car has needed for the last 10 years is a Bluetooth receiver for the owners choice of phone and a place to mount it.
@bobbymulwee7641
@bobbymulwee7641 4 жыл бұрын
@@stonewp Yep
@J-P88
@J-P88 4 жыл бұрын
I watch your videos in general because of you honest reviews/opinions. No sugger coating no pandering to Sponsers
@gnawershreth
@gnawershreth 4 жыл бұрын
I really like that part as well. When he got BF Goodrich on board as a sponsor, he also stopped doing tire reviews and explained *why* he made that decision. That's a very good mentality to have. :)
@J-P88
@J-P88 4 жыл бұрын
@@gnawershreth what i liked and was one of his first videos i watched and made me continue watching regularly was with the ARB tyre monitors. If i remember correctly he was Brutally Honest about saying they are not up to scratch for an ARB product even though he loves ARB. Most Fan Boys of any company would of try to gloss over the negatives to try make it look better then what it was. In a follow uo Video he ended up finding a better product which he recommended (in built tyre monitor).
@thedanistan5889
@thedanistan5889 3 жыл бұрын
What a gift to be able to talk for half an hour straight into the camera and be informative, engaging and funny the whole time. Great video!
@Yuralpa
@Yuralpa 4 жыл бұрын
Well spoken and analyzed! Compliments for keeping my attention without any fancy video material!
@IMLYINGISWEAR
@IMLYINGISWEAR 4 жыл бұрын
You'd think Land Rover would have learnt from the overwhelming success of the new Suzuki Jimny and Landcruiser 70 series. There is a massive thirst for solid axle, simple, old school 4x4s. Land Rover had the perfect opportunity to do something great with the Defender in a similar vein. But instead went with independent air suspension all round, 85 ECU's and an electronic switch to open the tailgate... I dare say this is the last nail in the coffin for Land Rover.
@MrLunithy
@MrLunithy 4 жыл бұрын
That lady that cost them around half million would have sent a message too..... maybe.
@TheRousler
@TheRousler 4 жыл бұрын
Expect North and South West London to be nose to tail with these...the New Chelsea Tractor.
@chrisg1234fly
@chrisg1234fly 4 жыл бұрын
I reckon sales will be crazy for this little lovely, which is ultimately what LR needs and want. Most people want those nasty things. I will buy one for some moderate trips into the bush, but for the middle of the bush, back to my Toyota. What percentage will be Chelsea Tractors, well most, but thats business. Its like going back to the rotary telephone.
@tolga1cool
@tolga1cool 4 жыл бұрын
This thing will sell really well. Not in our demographic of course
@tilan6944
@tilan6944 4 жыл бұрын
bobscratchit I suspect it will do well at the cost of some of its other models.. particularly the discovery. Those who were considering the defender will probably look elsewhere
@kevinmahoque5608
@kevinmahoque5608 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely personality, noticeable passion for off-roading, unbiased and factually driven opinions... Hands down the best defender related video on KZfaq...
@vivasangabriele1608
@vivasangabriele1608 4 жыл бұрын
I presently proudly own a 2002 110 V8 and a 2018 Land Cruiser HZJ 4.5 TurboD troopie. And I just love their bold, uncompromised, practical , sturdy and immortal legacy to true 4x4 nature. And masculime beauty. How could I ever fancy to own the new, ladyboy minded KIA DEFENDER?
@wetwaterfish
@wetwaterfish 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a 76 series Land Cruiser driver comming from an old Land Rover Defender TD5. And allthough I love my 76, I will always have a soft spot for a Defender. I thought this video was a very well presented observation on the new Landy. Well done Andrew.
@gantulgaganhuyag717
@gantulgaganhuyag717 4 жыл бұрын
From Mongolia, long time subscriber and i have to tell you this! Yes you can find 17’ out in the countryside and tires will be fixed no problem. I have drove around my country quite literally in my 10 year old VW Touareg. Fee cuts and punctures, yes it is ok to ride on 17’ and have it serviced in a 100 people settlement with no squabble
@Ijusthopeitsquick
@Ijusthopeitsquick 4 жыл бұрын
@@jdenmark1287 Andrew said you couldn't easily find 18 inch tyres in remote areas. He didn't say you can't find 17 inch tyres.
@gantulgaganhuyag717
@gantulgaganhuyag717 4 жыл бұрын
Hey two? Point was that Mongolia is no-longer a “backwater” of the world! We have better phone service than most canadian or russian remote regions for example! All major car producers have shops with parts. Local services gotten so good to a point that you can make order online parts from a countryside and get the part in two days. Now try that in russia or chinese countryside.
@sgchoe4806
@sgchoe4806 4 жыл бұрын
One of the very best (p)review I have watched anywhere ever. Easily won my subscription.
@nickregnier1
@nickregnier1 4 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your video. Simply brilliantly put together! You are so good at explaining things...
@SridharNag
@SridharNag 4 жыл бұрын
Man, just from the specifications given in the promo video, you were able to grill down the defender and give the most useful review than many auto jounalist who actually gave a review by driving it for days. And Hats-off to your experience and knowledge on the Subject. You truly are 4x4 guru. !! :) Cheers
@olihogan4594
@olihogan4594 4 жыл бұрын
Sridhar Nag Nope.
@SridharNag
@SridharNag 4 жыл бұрын
@@olihogan4594 what it means by Nope?
@PrimalPetersen
@PrimalPetersen 4 жыл бұрын
You can chuck a dead giraffe in the back 😂 Good one Mr SPW
@philippevoordecker6956
@philippevoordecker6956 4 жыл бұрын
I did not see a girafe but I did see a living camel.
@dartmoordave
@dartmoordave 4 жыл бұрын
You'd have bought a Toyota in the first place. There aren't any LR dealers in Africa.
@JacksonBNash
@JacksonBNash 4 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel with this video, thought I might watch for just a couple of minutes... Here I am 20 mins later feeling extremely well educated on the new Defender!
@AdarshKookal
@AdarshKookal 4 жыл бұрын
me too😉
@KM_1983
@KM_1983 4 жыл бұрын
You need to watch many more of his videos! He has a GREAT channel for overlanding!
@JacksonBNash
@JacksonBNash 3 жыл бұрын
trip madden thank you for this reminder!
@lapollamirko
@lapollamirko 4 жыл бұрын
I am impressed by the passion and the clarity of the long explanation. I just subscribed, you are the best!!!
@aakar1s
@aakar1s 4 жыл бұрын
"You can throw a dead giraffe in the back of the old Defender." Mic drop.
@firstclassatlanticflyer
@firstclassatlanticflyer 4 жыл бұрын
It's kinda true, they use alot of them for big game hunting in Africa, and the prices are relatively reasonable too!
@aakar1s
@aakar1s 4 жыл бұрын
@@firstclassatlanticflyer reliability comes from a sturdy, but simplistic design. No wonder modern cars struggle to match olde rones in that area, what with all the sensors, infotainment, and complicated solutions applied to them
@firstclassatlanticflyer
@firstclassatlanticflyer 4 жыл бұрын
@@aakar1s exactly, it's what made those vehicles reliable and easy to work on. The worst that could happen today are cost and availability of parts, in my opinion. Other than that anyone with a decent amount of experience shouldn't have trouble with older cars.
@gibbethoskins8621
@gibbethoskins8621 4 жыл бұрын
My uncle just got back from Africa and has a video of a guide iterally dragging a dead giraffe off the road in a 70 series with 3 lions standing by waiting... no way guys like that will be using the new defender.
@philipjooste9075
@philipjooste9075 4 жыл бұрын
A very sober and objective look at the new Defender, Andrew - well done! I can see it selling well, but killing off the Discovery 5 in the process. LC 70 series, Wrangler and Jimny will remain unaffected.
@AwidVahedi
@AwidVahedi 4 жыл бұрын
Why is this video so good and detailed !!! I’m impressed ! Thank you for your so detailed and well thought video on this !
@kunalsingal1130
@kunalsingal1130 4 жыл бұрын
Sir it was damn an awesome video. You truly deserve a standing ovation for producing such amazing and unbiased content. Got to learn a lot. Thank you. All the best. Cheers.
@deangale5367
@deangale5367 4 жыл бұрын
Okay so I own a 2002 Td5 110 that I have had since new and I live in Australia. The problem with Land Rover Downunder is that they closed down all of their rural dealerships years ago. So it doesn't matter how capable this new Defender is because for those of us living in the Outback or even in rural areas the nearest dealership is bloody miles away. I just see the new Defender as a cheaper alternative for people wanting a Discovery.
@lucienwinter4515
@lucienwinter4515 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Toyota is the only way to go if you live in bumfuck australia
@joshuamclean6564
@joshuamclean6564 4 жыл бұрын
Electronics will be the its Achilles heel. My local tow truck driver said he had 5 new Range Rovers in one day and it was all electrical problems.
@greekguytalks
@greekguytalks 4 жыл бұрын
Range Rovers and Defenders are made in different facilities so this may NOT to be an issue but then again being made in Slovakia VW and Skoda are know to have electrical problems.
@finesoul677
@finesoul677 4 жыл бұрын
and that was only one recovery truck driver lol
@PAToph
@PAToph 4 жыл бұрын
Lucas electric, the prince of darkness? 😂😂
@nirfz
@nirfz 4 жыл бұрын
@@greekguytalks I think the programming and the quality of the electronic parts makes more difference than where those parts are assembled. (And the number of electronics incorporated in the vehicle. The more there are, the more can go wrong)
@annjfk
@annjfk 4 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@OluwamuyiwaAkinola
@OluwamuyiwaAkinola 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you carefully communicated the deal-breakers and the improvements of the 2020 Defender. Thank you.
@5ebra1
@5ebra1 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis and explanation. Would love to see another one after you have driven one.
@aloooonee
@aloooonee 4 жыл бұрын
The first thing that indicates if the car is a good off-roader is the amount of electronics, less is better for sure. 🙂
@thesheepman220
@thesheepman220 4 жыл бұрын
Faisal VG exactly electronics cant beat great engineering, I bet this Land Rover breaks down more than the rest lol
@EvanMoon
@EvanMoon 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. You cannot handle a breakdown in the middle of the woods because of some computer decided to throw up on themselves. I bought a 97 jeep Cherokee for that exact reason. Fuel injection is the only Electronics it has.
@aloooonee
@aloooonee 4 жыл бұрын
@@EvanMoon great point, dealing with mechanical issues is much easier than some electronics or computer related issue.
@jacquespotgieter2700
@jacquespotgieter2700 4 жыл бұрын
The safest means of mass transport is by aircraft, they are jammed packed with electronics. Welcome to 2020. Maybe it can be resolved if you undergo some training, get yourself a OBD reader, spare ECU pre-programmed and a various bunch of basic electronique spare parts... Food for thought
@thomasbailey4139
@thomasbailey4139 4 жыл бұрын
You people live in the dark ages lol
@koreanfriedchildren
@koreanfriedchildren 4 жыл бұрын
This was the first impressions video of the new Defender I've been looking for. Thank you!
@atlanticboulevard
@atlanticboulevard 4 жыл бұрын
Why is this high-key the best video I've ever watched on KZfaq? I've watched a few of your videos (maybe one or two - I remember watching a Pajero review two or three years ago, but I'm not sure), but I don't tend to watch these sorts of videos, and generally enjoy other genres on KZfaq. But my word, something about this video was so entertaining! You were so unbiased, and I really appreciate how you were realistic in your conclusions, without hating it or loving it automatically, considering what it did well and what it didn't. I felt bad about liking this vehicle, as I grew up around the old Defender in the middle of nowhere, West Africa, where the company that my dad worked for used them to get to the remotest of villages to provide aid and conduct medical research, specifically around child survival and malaria - the Defender was well respected (though extremely uncomfortable to ride in). My Dad's work stopped using them towards the early 2010s because they became much more computerised and difficult to fix, but I was too young to understand what any of that meant, even if it was explained to me in detail. This video was so interesting to me, given my "third-culture" background, and my less tehnical knowledge about the defender and more nostalgic emotional impressions of it. I feel justified in appreciating the new one now, even if it's just for the way it looks and not it's capability, now that we've moved home and no longer live in Africa. Keep up the good work! I'll be watching more often now ☺
@lemmenspeter
@lemmenspeter 4 жыл бұрын
Give this man a top job at Land Rover and allow him an audience with The Queen. He will make ̶E̶n̶g̶l̶a̶n̶d̶ Land Rover great again !
@sabyasachipatnaik8391
@sabyasachipatnaik8391 4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it Indian now??
@moxietube
@moxietube 4 жыл бұрын
won't i buy one ?? .........NO !!!!!!!!! not in a million years , i want a 4x4 that i can repair , change , modified , i am a machanic . i like to get my hands dirty good analyzed Andrew , i love the way you put into words
@AK-xt3qf
@AK-xt3qf 4 жыл бұрын
Best 4x4 is what please?
@mohamedabadila
@mohamedabadila 4 жыл бұрын
When a devoted off-road car expert talks
@offtrackfamily
@offtrackfamily 4 жыл бұрын
Very good point of view and very objective! We like your videos! Continue this great job! Greatings from overlanding family of Switzerland!
@EdwardSinclair
@EdwardSinclair 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! I love your review and chanel. Very clear, direct and informative.
@robthurlow1347
@robthurlow1347 4 жыл бұрын
The old defender 130s could tow 3.5 tons and carry a ton in the back at the same time, and only had tiny brakes. But they were all manuals so you did have engine braking on your side.
@RonsonDalby
@RonsonDalby 4 жыл бұрын
All those electronics would give me nightmares in outback Australia.
@bmccameron7642
@bmccameron7642 4 жыл бұрын
No issues with that....it won't make it out of the city before a tow truck is called.
@mikehurley5052
@mikehurley5052 4 жыл бұрын
@@bmccameron7642 If you go into the outback you must take a Land Rover, if you want to come back then you take a Toyota.
@bmccameron7642
@bmccameron7642 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikehurley5052 having owned several of both brands I'd have to agree. With the LR it's never just one thing, it's everything.
@TheActiveAssault
@TheActiveAssault 4 жыл бұрын
vince orr albert hybrids coming out
@davidphillips8416
@davidphillips8416 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikehurley5052 very true.you can,t rely on the new one,s .
@vansolo9794
@vansolo9794 4 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my 110 always. I can do everything on it myself after owning one for 8 years.
@emty9668
@emty9668 4 жыл бұрын
Can I hose the interior down? Can it be fixed in the dark with a couple of spanners? Can you climb in covered in mud without worrying you might ruin something? No? Then it's not a Defender.
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment!
@qwertyzxcv123
@qwertyzxcv123 4 жыл бұрын
E X A C T L Y
@darrenjones5885
@darrenjones5885 4 жыл бұрын
Look up the INEOS Grenadier. Sir Jim Ratcliffe, founder of INEOS, said a farmer should be able to get in with boots covered in cow shit and at the end of the day hose it down inside and out. He’s worth £15.6 billion and his company has just bought the bits of BP Petrochemicals it didn’t acquire previously. He’s spent £600-700million building a factory to build them.
@heyupchum
@heyupchum 4 жыл бұрын
sorry but you cant "hose down the interior" of a relatively modern original defender anyway!! Its full of electronics! and for the record, every surface in the new interior is wipe clean. Every surface is made of hard wearing materials. No its not the "Old" defender. But its not supposed to be either. Oh and your Ineos Grenadier? The retail price is gonna be even higher than a full spec Defender2
@arefeshghi
@arefeshghi 4 жыл бұрын
The real hope for this car is not to break down in the middle of the desert!
@WizzardPrang
@WizzardPrang 4 жыл бұрын
Well considered review. I'd like to see what you think once you've got your hands on one. Plus I think coil springs will be the way to go.
@RG-ja34sep
@RG-ja34sep 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew, you give such great reviews. You have the amazing ability of keeping us engrossed in what you are covering. So interesting, informative and enthusiastic, great video, keep it up pal!!
@lecoffeeride8267
@lecoffeeride8267 4 жыл бұрын
Great review and chanel, had a good time watching !!!
@reinokotze
@reinokotze 4 жыл бұрын
The essence of the old defender was a simple bare canvas for the owner to change and do with whatever they thought was best in there own garage if they so please, this to me is the essence of the defender, not what is was designed for but what it grew into.
@herbertmasing
@herbertmasing 4 жыл бұрын
The long awaited reaction from ASPW!
@herbertmasing
@herbertmasing 4 жыл бұрын
Having watched and listened to your analysis, all of what You said makes sense and thank You for continuously not being afraid to speak your mind. Having said that, I still am convinced that it was a mistake to put a Defender badge on this new LR, even if it does have good potential. As a Defender owner I feel let down by the company whose reputation was built by the user and the enthusiast, not by themselves. It's the community of owners who made the Defender name great and now we are being spat at for a quick buck. They should have made this the new Discovery or maybe the Defender Sport, but putting the name of the legendary design to a completely different looking car was an insult to the loyal community of Defender owners. Heavens know, it's not for the quality or the comfort that LR (never) gave us that we love the Defender. So yes, still a disappointment even if the new car has got potential on paper. Shouldn't have created this bad feeling between JLR and the loyal enthusiast :|
@zvimoser6258
@zvimoser6258 4 жыл бұрын
You judge a car without a car strange
@annjfk
@annjfk 4 жыл бұрын
@@zvimoser6258 sorta like reviewing a phone based on videos and magazines? Or maybe he has so much experience so that comes in handy. Id agree though. Sometimes people get pleasantly surprised when their expectations are surpassed by the genuine article.
@ikkeennietjij
@ikkeennietjij 4 жыл бұрын
@@herbertmasing I do think it lookes a bit like the old one! But when you prefer the old lookes and technique, then just keep the old ones! I think that if LR had the oppertunity, they still would have produced the old stuff and make money out of it :-) but that was not possible, I guess...
@MAMDAVEM
@MAMDAVEM 4 жыл бұрын
Very well put together, love the way you opinion evolves on camera as you extrovert your thinking.
@richardcrosby2110
@richardcrosby2110 4 жыл бұрын
I love your passion for this review Richard! I am going to have to lift my game with my channel.
@RitmoXL
@RitmoXL 4 жыл бұрын
Alright Ford, you’re our last hope. Don’t f*** up the Bronco.
@stonewp
@stonewp 4 жыл бұрын
I’m hoping Ford pulls through with something as iconic as the classic Bronco that can compete with the Jeep Wrangler, but I won’t be surprised to see something like this new Defender; essentially an Ford Escape with a body kit.
@PAExploration
@PAExploration 4 жыл бұрын
Amen, please don't fail us Ford. Latest rumor is that it will have a manual transmission, that's a good start
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they already have given out enough information to know they've fucked up the Bronco...not a little but a lot. No V8, no solid axles and no removable top, its nothing more than the Global Ford Everest pile of shit with a Bronco sticker on it and an additional $15-20k added to the price.
@anibalbabilonia1867
@anibalbabilonia1867 4 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure its gonna be the same crap!
@kishanjadeja507
@kishanjadeja507 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂👍 dont get your hopes up...
@raymondlogister6828
@raymondlogister6828 4 жыл бұрын
i 100% agree with you Andrew. There is hope, specialy with the coil spring version.
@golddiggerdave
@golddiggerdave 4 жыл бұрын
I hope the defender will be good, bought the wife a 2019 Suzuki Jimny, and I love that more than I thought.
@qwertyzxcv123
@qwertyzxcv123 4 жыл бұрын
Its a very capable bug.
@RAFFIZUMZ
@RAFFIZUMZ 4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered my Jimny. I know that my interrior isn't going to melt because it's made or rubber.
@parkcrashers5922
@parkcrashers5922 4 жыл бұрын
The jimny is probably a better buy than the deffender
@andrewhoward7200
@andrewhoward7200 4 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed that review, not just for the valuable technical insight alone but for it's passion- which is after all what off-road driving is about.
@grantmoorhouse4825
@grantmoorhouse4825 4 жыл бұрын
Mmmmm! I got a sneaky suspicion there’s gonna be another trip to Baboons Pass! There’s gonna have to be! I’ll leave this here!
@voituer
@voituer 4 жыл бұрын
I wish the new defender looked exactly like the old one. I think they have created a new Discovery here. That said I guess they worked out what they sell the most of and maybe this new "thing" is what customers actually want. Time will tell.
@asahardy-brownlie2229
@asahardy-brownlie2229 4 жыл бұрын
First time watching your videos - great content and very professional. Subbed!
@khanivore313
@khanivore313 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Wish you did reviews for Top Gear or some automotive/offroad journal type show. Thank you!! You're review has really helped me to decide to finally buy the new Defender (and keep my old one) ;)
@marcap599
@marcap599 4 жыл бұрын
I agree: this car is the real new Discovery 5. Not a new Defender.
@paazbra
@paazbra 4 жыл бұрын
So true.
@Michael-fm3ou
@Michael-fm3ou 4 жыл бұрын
Discovery 6
@MrWombatty
@MrWombatty 4 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the new Discovery on the road for the first time I couldn't stop laughing when I read the badge! Real case of WTF?
@kg0173
@kg0173 4 жыл бұрын
They should have never used the name "DEFENDER" for this. Leave that to history and start a new chapter here.
@danielmarshall4587
@danielmarshall4587 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I'd thought that when I saw it, it's looks just like the Discovery 3/4.
@georgedaniels3683
@georgedaniels3683 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent and completely unbiased review Andrew!
@shr00m7
@shr00m7 3 жыл бұрын
I love the talk-through of the new specs. I have been an occasional off-roader since I started driving at 16, so not an expert even in my 30's, but I followed along perfectly with the rational and what it means to that vehicle and purpose. Need more content like this.
@rabbit_nz176
@rabbit_nz176 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I bought a new suzuki jimny and TBH, I'm pleased I did. It surprisingly good offroad and I can tinker with it and add components. Even though it's new, I love it like an old car. I'm not sure I'd ever find that feeling with the new defender.
@Shanes_Shed
@Shanes_Shed 4 жыл бұрын
The writting was on the wall for what the new defender was going to be like once the discovery 5 was released. The defender is the Discovery 4 replacement for those who actually use them offroad.
@Thedarknessteve
@Thedarknessteve 4 жыл бұрын
And that is why i'll buy one. I want an updated Discovery, that is not the Disco 5
@robstone4537
@robstone4537 4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Darke exactly, I wanted a replacement for my D4 but have been put off by the Disco 5. I was starting to lean towards a Prado, but now the Defender is on the list.
@yahoodlums
@yahoodlums 4 жыл бұрын
If this was the new Discovery people would be raving about it.
@AnthonyIlstonJones
@AnthonyIlstonJones 4 жыл бұрын
@King Brilliant Should be though, much better shape than the new Disco.....it isn't (and never will be) a utilitarian, practical vehicle like the Defender has been for decades.
@cbr1100xxPL
@cbr1100xxPL 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, Discovery 1 300tdi is the only discovery id dare take around australia
@CamarilloVineyard
@CamarilloVineyard 4 жыл бұрын
The new discovery has a lot of the same specs - payload, towing, wading depth, suspension travel - the discovery trades a bit larger interior for a bit less geometery but the basic hardware is the same. The new discovery also comes with a big diesel here in the US which the discovery doesn't and i'm not sure about the longevity and replacement costs of a 48V lithium battery especially on a safari. I like the rear of the defender and the front of the discovery. Just my opinion.
@nragheeb
@nragheeb 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, great info, so accurate, so entertaining keep it up!
@mymingyen
@mymingyen 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Watched it many many times. Think we’re all looking forward to hearing from you about the Ineos Grenadier. Sorry to hear about your recent predicament, hope things pick up !! Cheers!!
@TheRousler
@TheRousler 4 жыл бұрын
Advertising is targeted towards urbanites. And all those marvellous accessories 😂....... mud flaps, roof rack, shower..... still my beating heart ! Get a Jimny if you want a cheap, versatile, go anywhere off roader. It's not a Defender but neither is the new Defender.
@mattsalon7007
@mattsalon7007 4 жыл бұрын
That has been my thoughts on the matter. That jimny looks bad ass..
@TheRousler
@TheRousler 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattsalon7007 Yes, its a modern Series 1 Landy... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/atR5ltSpl5nPnGw.html
@ati573
@ati573 4 жыл бұрын
I'll take my more powerful and bigger wrangler Rubicon
@sherwinchia8114
@sherwinchia8114 4 жыл бұрын
I would think the Jimny would feel underpowered taking off at the lights- Not to drag race of course, just to be able to move off without feeling like a P.O.S car. I mean, at baseline it's a 1.5L engine. A Hyundai i30 has a 1.6L engine and that in itself does not feel fun to drive. So why would people want to get a Jimny?
@herbertmasing
@herbertmasing 4 жыл бұрын
@@ati573 You are right, the Jeep Wrangler (especially Rubicon) is the only real full-size offroader left.
@Bluebottle_GB
@Bluebottle_GB 4 жыл бұрын
"There won't be any footage of the original Defender" 06:55 - original Defender ;)
@darticulate8751
@darticulate8751 4 жыл бұрын
Love your passionate insightfulness, thank you !
@philupton4039
@philupton4039 4 жыл бұрын
Stunning verbal review. So glad I found this channel. Your knowledge and wisdom is mind blowing. My old disco 3 is still my fave other than defender. I'll wait on the new defender till a few faults have been discovered. Great vid thanks
@fiveowaf454
@fiveowaf454 4 жыл бұрын
The new "Defender" is just another version of the Discovery type vehicle, the Defender was a utility vehicle at it's heart, I guess Landrover feel the market among "soccer mum's" is more profitable than the commercial and agricultural market. The weakness of the air suspension, beyond reliability, is that when you raise the ride height you make the suspension harder, which isn't want you want off road.
@Thunder_Yoda
@Thunder_Yoda 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Discovery 3 and I am not a soccer mom ;-) We take it to the playground (aka the mud) very regularly and I think you don't know what you're talking about. Air suspension is awesome. If you don't have solid axles, air suspension is the way to go if you need to tow, want to fit huge tires, want to fit normal tires for long voyages and so on. The Defender is a true Disco and I can't wait to try it out.
@fiveowaf454
@fiveowaf454 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thunder_Yoda Based on buying used cars as a dealer from the auto auctions for 15 years I beg to differ as to whether I know what I'm talking about, I've seen too many LR products in "low rider" mode be sold cheaply due to the need for expensive repairs to believe otherwise, still in your mind your sample of one trumps my experience. Good luck to you may your airbags continue to work.
@gnawershreth
@gnawershreth 4 жыл бұрын
And there's nothing wrong with LR wanting to make cars for soccer moms but why on earth does *every* model have to be made for them? It's like they made a car to compete against their other cars. Why?
@dougfilmu
@dougfilmu 4 жыл бұрын
The Land Rover Defender has always been a real 4X4 and nearly unstoppable. That new thing is a pretty boys city toy that will never fill the boots of it's namesake.
@MatrixDiscovery
@MatrixDiscovery 4 жыл бұрын
Yep...soon to be at every StarBucks coffee place. The new Defender is a for the yuppies. Trucks like the Toyota 70, LandCruiser and Nissan Patrol are for the real 4x4 men.
@nicbritton2287
@nicbritton2287 3 жыл бұрын
You do great videos. Well informed. I’ve got it to off roading / green laning. And love it. At mo start small grand Vitara lifted with a few other bits. What’s your take on the small 4x4. Plus I’m looking at a discover 3 thoughts??
@derwinjax
@derwinjax 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I watched this with my wife and afterwards, she clearly understood your findings based on the stats LR has made available. Thank you very much for the obviously unbiased review. Looking forward to more of your videos.
@tushardesh
@tushardesh 4 жыл бұрын
A real master at work. This video taught me more about the new Defender than the 10+ hours of video reviews I have seen so far.
@roverron7509
@roverron7509 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew, you forgot one of the biggest deal breakers on the new Defender, the price.
@Frank_Furter92
@Frank_Furter92 4 жыл бұрын
Price is comparable with the Toyota LC Prado and Jeep Wrangler, in the uk atleast
@kylebudd3664
@kylebudd3664 4 жыл бұрын
Mate, it's cheaper than a utility land cruiser, Base model Wrangler, and even the G wagen Utility
@shgurney
@shgurney 4 жыл бұрын
michael07111992 Not sure how you come to that conclusion. Spec a 110 to the same spec as a Rubicon, and it’s about £10K more, that’s even after Jeep UK 40% price hike with the latest Wrangler. Compare it to US and Canadian prices it’s about half the price. Same with Landcruiser. Even base utility version is £35K inc VAT, Defender commercial will start at £35K + VAT. I don’t consider a 20% difference the same. Again, no doubt when you spec them to the same level Defender will be even more than 20% more expensive.
@andrewparsons6416
@andrewparsons6416 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks - super interesting, genuine, unbiased review. Really enjoyed listening to that.
@nasserbrn
@nasserbrn 4 жыл бұрын
I was really waiting for your views and everything you said was to the point.... Excellent review!
@smoking-tm9xh
@smoking-tm9xh 4 жыл бұрын
I come to the conclusion that my old nissan td27 is my best friend never asks for anything!!😂
@davidanderson8381
@davidanderson8381 4 жыл бұрын
The Defender I owned, despite being about as technically advanced as a stone, was incredibly unreliable. Now they're going to go hi-tech ? Please.
@davidanderson8381
@davidanderson8381 4 жыл бұрын
And it's ugly.
@herbertmasing
@herbertmasing 4 жыл бұрын
@tha idealist :D
@nils895
@nils895 4 жыл бұрын
@tha idealist Best comment about the new Defender so far😂👍
@thesheepman220
@thesheepman220 4 жыл бұрын
David Anderson well the Australia military their land rovers the stuck a 3.9 ltr no turbo Isuzu engine in them
@doscwolny2221
@doscwolny2221 4 жыл бұрын
@@thesheepman220 ive had more trouble with my old landcruiser and l200 than my 300tdi defender. Its been reliable for me.
@tigerfishorganicsextra
@tigerfishorganicsextra 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your video review buddy, it's nice to see someone with off-road knowledge to point out the floors I have a Navara D22 and would love so information about making it more off-road ready ? If you can help in anyway would be very much appreciated ✌️
@daill4lwa
@daill4lwa 4 жыл бұрын
Best video I’ve come across since I started this KZfaq journey.
@mrme982007
@mrme982007 4 жыл бұрын
My initial reaction was “this is just a replacement for the disco 4” then I started watching and reading and now, I’m pretty happy, I kinda want one. I firmly believe that if they had called this by any other name there would not be an ounce of criticism toward it, as it stands though, I think they’ve done a good job
@ChuckRage
@ChuckRage 4 жыл бұрын
Same. But I'd be concerned about the air suspension and electronics until they're well proven
@Phos9
@Phos9 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChuckRage IIRC you can get it with steel suspension
@ChuckRage
@ChuckRage 4 жыл бұрын
@@Phos9 I may be wrong, but as far as I know, only the short wheel base model has the option of coil or air springs and the long wheel base is air only.
@AndyMacinnes1
@AndyMacinnes1 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChuckRage Interesting to see if they bring out a long wheel base van/ troop carrier.
@gilbert7794
@gilbert7794 4 жыл бұрын
TheNicknack43 proven to go wrong, it annoying when you get a suspension fault on the side of theA1 and it won’t move and have to wait two hours for recovery, imagine that in some far off middle of nowhere with little chance of recovery.
@arnomoller89
@arnomoller89 4 жыл бұрын
I have managed to find fuel tank capacities on the brochure available on Land Rover’s South African website. 83,5l for the diesel 90 series, 88,5l for the petrol 90 series. 85l for the diesel 110 series and 90l for the petrol 110 series.
@drumbrakes
@drumbrakes 4 жыл бұрын
Same figures in the UK brochure. Slightly less fuel capacity than my '83 109 (twin 50 litre tanks), about the same fuel economy, but at least 3 times the power.
@tamilee409
@tamilee409 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyd this video....very informative....👍👍
@BeastModeMTB
@BeastModeMTB 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve just been off road on Ramsden road in my standard 2019 discovery sport black edition, following Callum William otter and Chris with their 110 and disco td5 ... so much fun... Land Rover have smashed it. Thanks for the video
@Dengafur
@Dengafur 4 жыл бұрын
I watched some (non offroad) car channels reviewing the new Defender. The opinion that actually matters for that specific vehicle is ASPW´s!
@Phil_McAvity
@Phil_McAvity 4 жыл бұрын
I’d be very interested to see how the suspension stands up on Aussie tracks like the Anne Beadell Highway with kms kms of relentless corrugations.
@chaquisa1
@chaquisa1 4 жыл бұрын
I have been all around Australian tracks and tackled thousands of Klm of corrugations in my Discovery three with no prob's .The air suspension just glides over them .!The more rigid the suspension as in solid axles and coils results in cracked chassis and blown out wheel bearings etc etc etc !!
@Phil_McAvity
@Phil_McAvity 4 жыл бұрын
laurence mccarthy what tracks have you driven that have relentless corrugations?
@chaquisa1
@chaquisa1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Phil_McAvity Just about every road off the Stuart highway up here in the Northern Territory Mate !
@Phil_McAvity
@Phil_McAvity 4 жыл бұрын
laurence mccarthy fair enough, if you have done the Anne Beadell, Canning...etc on the standard suspension then that’s a bloody great effort. It’ll still be good to see how the new Defender goes though.
@chaquisa1
@chaquisa1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Phil_McAvity Yep i agree but if its anything like my disco 3 it will be fine .I have always maintained a Vehicle is only as good as its operator,My opinion is that all vehicles are as good as the next especially these days .Hell even the new 200 series and Patrols are loaded with electronics ,but no one will put them down because of the old theory they are bullet proof based on the old Toyota tractor of the 70's ,a cab ,chassis ,two diffs ,a motor and gear box full stop!.All vehicles will break if they are not maintained I havn't done the Anne Beadle,but have been over the Canning there and back.The only issue i have had with the suspension is replace lower control arms which i have done just recently and gears in the compressor about a year ago ,but in saying that i have traveled 378000 klm and still running the original air struts.I do maintenance checks regularly and replace any small thing just in case.The distances up the top end are a long way between towns ,not only that but just driving 50k off the beaten track and you are REMOTE as anywhere .
@klausroethel5961
@klausroethel5961 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, no BS , “thinking out of the box “ perspectives on four wheel driving !!
@MichaelLapi-ht8zm
@MichaelLapi-ht8zm 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I'm glad I watched your video.I own no vehicles but I like learning about them.Besides getting to learn you set my mood for the day,thanks.Best wishes!
@takiman1
@takiman1 4 жыл бұрын
Andy. This is the most awesome theoretical review of the new Defender so far. A whole different league than your competitors. I take my hat off.
@hendersonroger
@hendersonroger 4 жыл бұрын
Great comment. I thought this was a brilliant review with some wonderful insight.
@charlesrizzo6996
@charlesrizzo6996 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew; Want an honest opinion on off roading ACROSS THE WORLD!!?? Go to your videos. Honesty without being owned by the manufacturers is a rare thing. Keep up the great work and your honesty!!
@47Rolling
@47Rolling 4 жыл бұрын
Why do land rover drivers wave to each other as they drive past. To prove they have clean hands and hadn't had to fix something that day.
@rogerjones624
@rogerjones624 4 жыл бұрын
They are waving at me in my Toyota Land Cruiser sat on the side of the road with a blocked DPF
4 жыл бұрын
why do u wave to ur friends? why do motorcyclists wave? how old are you?
@47Rolling
@47Rolling 4 жыл бұрын
KennyG Hansen take is easy mate it's only a joke
@jimgoodwin6294
@jimgoodwin6294 4 жыл бұрын
@ Why? Because he's not a miserable f***er.......x
@marklongman6882
@marklongman6882 4 жыл бұрын
Such a great review without having driven the vehicle. I had not seen this channel before and recently having had the opportunity to become a land rover driver I found the information and enthusiasm of the video enthralling to watch and listen. I want more, thank you.
@caintiger
@caintiger 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still rocking the BlackBerry (key2). Lolol Love the BlackBerry, always have and always will. That said, best video I've seen on ANYTHING all year long! Lastly I most likely will buy this new LR defender. I'm in the States and don't plan on travelling to Botswana or Cambodia or Argentina but will take it on hunting trips, to the mountains for hikes and biking, and to college football tailgates, so all in all this vehicle will serve me well I think. Love this review though, absolutely aces!
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