I feel bad for Danielle- but she unwittingly got someone killed. Good God.
@MandA19003 жыл бұрын
Do you know which season and episode was this?
@juliag.51143 жыл бұрын
@@MandA1900 season 13, episode 7 called “Open season”
@cleobrown4133 күн бұрын
She's my favorite defense attorney, I felt bad for her, she sometimes was a pita in the zealous representation of her clients.
@gotch095 жыл бұрын
I really miss the original Law & Order.
@IWantToMature855 жыл бұрын
Jayne Mansfield it should have gotten an actual ending
@gotch095 жыл бұрын
@@IWantToMature85 I agree
@KS-qr1ry5 жыл бұрын
Zechariah Cameron i wish they went ahead with the 10 episode mini series with jack and mike
@princewindsor984 жыл бұрын
So do I
@madison-fakharaalabaljamil39174 жыл бұрын
@@KS-qr1ry which Mike? Logan or Cutter?
@davidpar24 жыл бұрын
McCoy and Danielle had some of the greatest d.a./defense attorney chemistry on the show
@blppt3 жыл бұрын
My only problem is that they almost never let her win. Matter of fact, I can't remember a time where she actually won against McCoy.
@zulfanbakri76409 ай бұрын
@@blppt Well there was the one she got shot and almost murdered....Jack was out for blood when that happened.
@rsybing7 ай бұрын
Ben Stone leaving the show gave Melnick a great opportunity for a reset. Stone and Melnick (besides her first appearance) were so at odds with each other that it got really boring after a while.
@floppabingussled6 жыл бұрын
Feldshuh was one of the finest actors to appear on Law and Order. She is quite versatile having appeared on stage In various one women shows.
@fever_spike5 жыл бұрын
Damn, I was such a tremendous fan of this, the original series, from 2005-2009...Sam was my favorite. Met him twice-first in 2008 at a Refugees International dinner in D.C., and then again in 2009, after an amazing performance in a play he did at Long Wharf Theater in Connecticut called ‘Have You Seen Us?’
@hm2g1303 жыл бұрын
I found this episode so great yet so frustrating. Melnick knowingly violated a judge’s order just because she personally felt like it was wrong and was an accessory to murder. McCoy should have put his personal feelings aside and charged her. I didn’t even feel satisfied when she was shot, I felt like she still got away with murder and would do it again
@shahidulkhan95662 жыл бұрын
She did. She was still allowed to practice as a lawyer and Avoided jail time.
@andrewclark75592 жыл бұрын
Don't forget how in Season 3 she tried so hard to get that rapist doctor off the hook.
@moongypsyguerrero19259 ай бұрын
He did charge her.The girl who shot her was also an extremist
@nuschlerclark8957 ай бұрын
Honey! This is a TV show not real life!
@driver346411 жыл бұрын
No she is not supposed to believe him, she is supposed to defend him to the best of her ability and see he not not convicted unless the state proves it's case beyond a reasonable doubt. And most defense attorney's work on the basis that their client is guilty.
@palmeraviles72503 жыл бұрын
I believe it. It’s probably the only way they keep there sanity
@misguidedyouth93312 жыл бұрын
Lawyers want to know the truth so they can help their client the best, attorney client privileges guarentees they can't be subpoenaed to testify against you
@matthewbee1282 ай бұрын
I can’t remember where I heard this, but a defense attorney once said “it’s not my job to prove your innocence, it’s my job to get you off”
@heleneschenbacher85125 жыл бұрын
I saw Tovah on Broadway in a one woman play as Golda Meir, prime minister of Israel! Zowie can she act!
@eliyugend46604 жыл бұрын
I saw her in Dancing With Giants and met her after, she is the smallest woman on God's earth. So friendly and talented
@crazybunnigaming932 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Danielle, fuck she gets shot at the end of this episode too! But man... this is why you follow the orders of the judge as you don't know what information you pass on will do to someone!
@dirdib692 жыл бұрын
Melnick was one of my favorite defense attorneys, though I loved Elaine Stritch's Lanie Stieglitz as well.
@irishpogi11 ай бұрын
even though she made one appearance, I liked the character Sandy Duncan played back in season 5
@KasbashPlays4 жыл бұрын
I miss L&O when this was the extent to how personal it could get between two characters.
@dianeblack68663 жыл бұрын
Jack McCoy got personal with a lot of the other female actors..have no idea why they found him attractive, but it was part of his sleazy character.
@HermioneSharman153 жыл бұрын
@@dianeblack6866 Jack McCoy was a lot of things, but he was never sleazy.
@rosegroshek12183 жыл бұрын
He was far from sleazy, they hinted that he slept with his ADAs but that's it
@777sicilia2 жыл бұрын
@@dianeblack6866 What? What show were u watching?
@jmmproductions6741 Жыл бұрын
You know it was a bit disturbing seeing Melnick so vulnerable. There's a couple female lawyers in the show who are hard as nails, and she's probably the toughest one I've seen. It really shouldn't be surprising for her to suddenly drop the tough act, but I was a little taken back just watching her walls come crumbling down, and resort to a simple desperate plea.
@katherynemero41182 жыл бұрын
I was shocked by this episode. Do you know how many times she was the lawyer? I expect to see dirty cops. I've even seen a lot of dirty lawyers. But a lawyer we've seen all the time? Crazy.
@zachzabrowski95463 жыл бұрын
So this is what Deanna Monroe was up to before the apocalypse... (Walking Dead Reference)
@juliag.51143 жыл бұрын
Funny, the dude is on Fear the walking dead, I forget his name
@zachzabrowski95463 жыл бұрын
@@juliag.5114 Which dude?
@Renagade23323 ай бұрын
@@zachzabrowski9546her client is John Dorie from Fear the Walking Dead
@rositawest42798 жыл бұрын
Tovah Feldshuh is the best!
@shockmandan7 жыл бұрын
Despite this melnick became a judge in chicago.
@KasbashPlays4 жыл бұрын
As Melnick or the same actor playing another character?
@irishpogi4 жыл бұрын
@@KasbashPlays yes.
@irishpogi11 жыл бұрын
"Open Season" from season 13
@lokialutt3445 Жыл бұрын
They didn't call him "hang em high McCoy" for nothing.
@georgebanks73474 жыл бұрын
Damn..Damn..That jack Mcoy..dosent give a DAMN about noooo- body.!.. tough...he's a bad ass......Wth....!!...⏰🤔
@nuschlerclark8957 ай бұрын
She won Tony for her Broadway performance as Golda Meier!
@nicholasmaude69064 жыл бұрын
I would've loved to have seen a Melnick/Stone interaction.
@jumpupdown25564 жыл бұрын
They did interact Stone was still on the show when Melnick first appeared. Pretty sure her first appearance was in the episode where Olivet was raped by her gynecologist in season 3 and she had one more episode alongside him in season 4.
@nicholasmaude69064 жыл бұрын
@@jumpupdown2556 IIRC Olivet was raped in S2 not S3.
@rsybing4 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasmaude6906 It was season 3. Either way Stone was in that episode and they really clashed when Melnick represented the doctor.
@nicholasmaude69062 жыл бұрын
@Dave Perez I don't know but I don't think so.
@matthewforsyth2842 жыл бұрын
@Dave Perez uh yeah she did actually.
@DorianMichaelsIII9 жыл бұрын
I just noticed this when I paused at 1:45, but is the actress playing Danielle Melnick just that short, or is Sam Waterston (Jack McCoy) just that *tall*? It almost looks like Sam's standing on a box (which is usually reserved for shorter actresses when they're paired against a much taller male actor so the size discrepancy isn't as apparent.)-- looking straight ahead, Danielle is face-to-*chest* with Jack! It's either that, or Melnick's actress is standing on a lowered section of the set so she *seems* shorter than she actually *is*...
@crysjumar18 жыл бұрын
+DorianMichaelsIII 5'3"
@RonJohn634 жыл бұрын
He's 6'1, and she's 5'3. Normally, she'd be wearing heels, but it's evening, so the full 10" difference is manifest.
@wyattnguyen63232 жыл бұрын
That conversation is strictly confidential. In what world are they allowed to listen in ?
@irishpogi2 жыл бұрын
This issue has been discussed numerous times here. Did you read the other comments?
@irishpogi2 жыл бұрын
The attorney was conspiring with her client. Attorney client privilege goes down the toilet when they're committing crimes together.
@Thrifty0327812 жыл бұрын
In the world where a defendant attempts to use a lawyer to commit a crime, which was what happened here.
@floridadad28173 ай бұрын
What exactly is a prosecutor doing secretly listening in on conversations between a defendant and his attorney? This is a total Constitutional violation.
@dornravlin8 жыл бұрын
its that one chick from the walking dead
@vswick4 жыл бұрын
dornravlin Good call!
@StevenSmith-br5tb7 ай бұрын
As an ACTUAL Irish kid, I wouldn’t have burned her as McCoy did. In our culture as is used to be, family, friendship, and loyalty are thicker than water. I would have either figured a way around, or just flat-out looked the other way. It’s in my DNA.
@bradendalhouse72472 жыл бұрын
Remember when law and order was law and order and not the Life and Loves of Olivia Benson
@stevevasta2 жыл бұрын
Different series: that's SVU.
@michaelleary92332 жыл бұрын
But luckily for you, they're bring back Sam and friends next year for a 21st season.
@@bradendalhouse7247 Yep, it was just announced yesterday. Dick Wolf finally got his wish to finish it off, after they cancelled it in 2010 after 20 years.
@masteroftheuniverse99292 жыл бұрын
I thought bugging a lawyer and client meeting was illegal?
@StephenMcGann2 жыл бұрын
Not if you convince a judge they are engaged in a criminal enterprise
@irishpogi2 жыл бұрын
@@StephenMcGann while Preuss was in jail awaiting trial, he was unable to communicate with anyone from the outside world other than his attorney. Yet the prosecutor who put Preuss' leader away for heinous crimes, he was murdered. It was believed Preuss' attorney had been communicating with someone from his organization and told him/her where to find this prosecutor.
@vladtepes979 ай бұрын
she survived long enough to run a community during the zombie apocalypse.
@chrissagon11119 ай бұрын
What episode is this?
@moongypsyguerrero19259 ай бұрын
He shouldn't have charged her,though, knowing it was her client, even if she had to be charged,if so, someone else should've.
@joaopauloadlergomesdacosta2823 жыл бұрын
I did not watch the rest of the episode, so I do not know the context. However, I was shocked when I was the D.A. listening in a private conversation between lawyer and the client. Shouldn't these be protected?
@irishpogi3 жыл бұрын
Serena got permission from the judge because her bosses were wondering how Danielle's client was communicating with the outside despite the special administrative measures imposed by the judge that presided over Julian Preuss' arraignment.
@Thrifty0327812 жыл бұрын
The defendant had murdered a famous defense attorney and stolen his address book. After he was arrested and remanded to jail, the judge put a special administrative order that he could not have any communication to with the outside world. Earlier in this episode, his attorney (Danielle) violated the order and passed a communication from him to a contact on the outside. The communication ordered the murder of a district attorney in Florida. Danielle didn't know she was doing this. Because they had suspicions that the defendant was using her to commit a crime, that broke the attorney client privilege.
@podsmpsg15 жыл бұрын
How much does she charge?
@freemanoxenholmes22414 жыл бұрын
STEVE P in 1 episode it was 100,000
@dwightlove37043 жыл бұрын
Is listening to a conversation between a client and his lawyer legal?????
@potatogirl13403 жыл бұрын
Usually it would be a violation of attorney-client privilege, yes, but the exception is if the attorney is conspiring with the client. In this case melnick was doing something illegal so the privilege was waived.
@Thrifty0327812 жыл бұрын
There are certain exceptions, such as if the communication is being used to commit a criminal act. Which is what happened in this episode.
@atroll1094 жыл бұрын
I feel very sorry for Danielle Melnick. She is unknowingly manipulated by her client in the commission of a murder. That is the ultimate circumstance that no ethical attorney wishes to have themselves put in. The sad fact is is that Melnick is simply following the judicial rules of professional conduct which state that a lawyer should zealously represent their client within the bounds of the law. Another important fact about this episode is that character of Julian Preuss, the villain of this episode, is based on white supremacist Matthew F. Hale. Hale was the leader of the white supremacist/white nationalist hate group The World Church of the Creator who is currently serving time for conspiring to murder a federal judge. Just a little fact, in case anyone is interested.
@loremipsum36103 жыл бұрын
"That is the ultimate circumstance that no ethical attorney wishes to have themselves put in." - she breached a court order, which are usually in place for good reasons. As she found out, even though she thought they were wrong, those reasons were indeed good, and breaching them led to someone being killed. That's on her.
@happybkwrm3 жыл бұрын
@@loremipsum3610 Yep. She put her personal feelings above a judge's order.
@ytafan40685 ай бұрын
There was an episode, after this one and after the shooting at City Hall, where Melnick once again tried to use the courtroom to pursue her own political agenda. Near the end of the show, McCoy had it with her and more or less told her to stop using the courtroom to change policy or pursue her own political ideas. If you want to do that, quit your job and go into politics. Or something to that effect.
@Billhatestheinternet3 жыл бұрын
Even in NYC, most people in that position carry a firearm. A person in that situation has two moral choices: Turn themselves in, or prepare the sidearm and a glass of Scotch.
@sapphireblue89303 жыл бұрын
I could never stand melnick
@trevonpernell08142 жыл бұрын
3:07 Take care of yourself, Danielle.
@MichaelWilliams-yl1cq2 жыл бұрын
Regardless or not as a result of her actions, someone was killed in regards to the ADA. She is at fault.
@shockmandan6 жыл бұрын
Were the Special Administrative Measures really necessary. What if the second judge had decided to vacate them completely.
@yesterdayitrained4 жыл бұрын
Obviously they were necessary- did you watch this video? The SAM were circumvented, and an ADA in Florida was killed as a result. I would say they were indeed necessary.
@shockmandan3 жыл бұрын
@@yesterdayitrained maybe so but I didn’t see the motions papers and the written ruling
@shockmandan3 жыл бұрын
Second McCoy can gather the dragon balls to ressurect the ADA
@shockmandan2 жыл бұрын
@@yesterdayitrained third there were other options such as monitoring the defendants phone calls and messages.
@josephbalan83844 жыл бұрын
It’s attorney client privilege! He violated it
@irishpogi4 жыл бұрын
If you watched the episode, Serena got permission from a judge to listen in on their conversation because Melnick became a co-conspirator in the death of a prosecuting attorney down south by being the defendant's conduit
@jadefalcon0013 жыл бұрын
Joseph you'll wanna take a remedial class in your armchair attorney school - as pointed out by the DA the privilege vanishes when used to conspire to commit a crime, successful or not (and it WAS successful in this case). Danielle violated court orders.
@josephbalan83843 жыл бұрын
Privilege should apply no matter what, it’s not the DA’s business
@irishpogi3 жыл бұрын
@@josephbalan8384 only if the attorney and her client were not committing crimes.
@irishpogi3 жыл бұрын
@@josephbalan8384 if you watched the entire episode, the district attorney was wondering how Danielle's client communicated with the outside the world despite special administrative measures that were imposed by the arraignment judge. The defendant was not to have any contact with anyone from the outside world. During his incarceration, a prosecutor in Florida was executed and Jack and Arthur were wondering why. That is why Arthur recommended that his staff wire up the conference room at Rikers when Danielle met with her client. They did all this with judicial approval none the less.
@stancartmankenny3 жыл бұрын
What happens to Melnick after this? I don't remember her ever being on the show after this.
@irishpogi3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the episode, Danielle is wheeled into an ambulance because one of her client's supporters shot her just as she was entering an elevator in her apartment building.
@stancartmankenny3 жыл бұрын
@@irishpogi Oh yeah I remember that... so we never hear what happens to her after that? I seem to remember her using a cane?
@irishpogi3 жыл бұрын
@@stancartmankenny In her next TV appearance in Season 14's "City Hall" episode.
@BryantFinlay2 жыл бұрын
@@stancartmankenny McCoy bails her out by getting Preuss to say he forced her into the messages
@irishpogi2 жыл бұрын
She makes an appearance in season 16 episode "America Inc." Also in season 17 episode "Good Faith." She also made her only appearance on Law & Order Criminal Intent's final episode "To The Boy WIth The Blue Cap."
@katiehertfelder51187 жыл бұрын
Did they sleep together at one point?
@jenniferclark98426 жыл бұрын
Katie Hertfelder I know they were friends from law school or some such.
@heleneschenbacher85125 жыл бұрын
I have watched every episode--I’m old. Jack only beds his ADA’s. He’s a prosecuting attorney, she’s a defense lawyer. They’ve been in MANY shows opposite each other.
@blppt3 жыл бұрын
Knowing McCoy, probably. He seems to bed just about every woman he has a history with on the show, lol. Although if Abby hooked up with Jack, she was the one wearing the pants in that encounter.
@LawAndOrderFangirl38 Жыл бұрын
@@blppt I thought Jack & Abbie had incredible chemistry together
@edwinmcgowen88662 жыл бұрын
It's not hot in here. Why is he sweating?
@moongypsyguerrero19259 ай бұрын
I like Danielle Melnick,but this crazy guy(now would be a republican,the proud boys),used her
@shockmandan2 жыл бұрын
If this were dragon ball z we could ask Shenron to revive the ADA and all the people that were killed throughout the entirety of the show. I would also ask that all of the people who McCoy stone and his assistants prosecuted to be released.
@adinicic42593 жыл бұрын
Ummm doesn't this break the law with them listening in on attorney/client privilege?
@ItsGooseIsland3 жыл бұрын
You gotta watch the entire episode to get the context
@happybkwrm3 жыл бұрын
When a lawyer conspires with a client, it's not protected.
@kriskross89084 жыл бұрын
Defense attorneys are worms. They lie for people they know are guilty. Always nice to see then get what's coming to them, even in a TV show.
@ColumbiaB4 жыл бұрын
Kris Kross - No, they don’t lie. If they do, they lose their license to practice. In addition, other attorneys learn that their word is no good, and it becomes impossible for them to do business. Defense attorneys are indispensable in our adversary system of justice, which is a bulwark against tyranny.
@kriskross89084 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are really one ignorant buffoon, aren't you? "Lawyers don't lie, because that would be WRONG!!" You hear about people this stupid, but to actually come across one is something special...
@ColumbiaB4 жыл бұрын
Kris Kross - Of course, that’s not what I said, but your reliance on dishonest distortion is clearly in character for you. The ignorance here lies in your failure to understand how our system of justice works. The buffoonery lies in your adherence to a tendentious caricature of that system and the professionals who work within it. They’re humans, and you can find instances of all human failings among them - as you can in any profession. But I’ve known many attorneys, and have no doubt that their general level of integrity well exceeds yours.
@kriskross89084 жыл бұрын
Yes, well done on finally cracking open that thesaurus your grandmother got you for Christmas, but pulling out a bunch of big words doesn't really win the day for you, sport. Unfortunately for you, it also doesn't obfuscate the fact that you actually did say exactly what I said you did. See, you didn't really have to qualify that you only *knew* lawyers, and weren't one yourself, because I was in absolutely no danger of thinking a lawyer would be so flat-out fucking stupid as to say--and I'm pulling a direct quote from your comment here-- "Lawyers don't lie", and then when called to task for it, say "I didn't say that" and try to call it "dishonest distortion". After this, you then decided to desperately spew out every word on your 2020 Word Of The Day calendar in the hopes that I would be so dazzled and confused by your brilliance as to lose sight of your furious backpedalling. Bad luck for you that you found yourself up against someone far above your intellectual weight class. But please, feel free to try again. 😉
@ColumbiaB4 жыл бұрын
It speaks volumes that your wittiest attempt at a comeback is an “accusation” that I used a thesaurus in writing my response. It certainly wasn’t original of you; it’s a favorite whine of the semiliterate. I use words whose meaning I know; I don’t need to look them up. But it’s amusing that you think of some of my vocabulary as abstruse. And you clearly have a hard time keeping straight what people have said. Your claim that I said, “Lawyers don’t lie, because that would be WRONG,” indicates, at best, hopeless confusion on your part. I said, very plainly, that lawyers don’t lie because it’s professional poison for them. There are also more than a few who don’t lie because (in addition) their moral compass compels them to honesty. In fact, that’s probably the majority of lawyers. And it’s not a hard call, to be blunt, to conclude that most lawyers are fundamentally more honest, trustworthy people than you are. But we don’t need to rely on such subjective judgments; the baseline reality is that the imperatives of self-preservation are sufficient to guarantee that lies in the legal profession are far less common that in most other areas of life. That, of course, doesn’t conform to the lurid fantasies about the legal system that you find more comforting than reality and rigorous thinking. But we could hardly expect a disciplined discussion of policy issues from you.
@TippiGordon4 жыл бұрын
Jesus, Elisabeth Rohm was terrible. That's some high school drama club acting.
@irishpogi4 жыл бұрын
of all the ADA's, I preferred Abby Carmichael!
@niccolovanible10013 жыл бұрын
@@irishpogi Season 10 had such a great cast of characters. Lennie, Ed, Anita, Jack, Abby, and Adam.
@irishpogi3 жыл бұрын
@@niccolovanible1001 I agree
@777sicilia3 жыл бұрын
But she was hot! That balanced it out. Lol
@rosegroshek12183 жыл бұрын
She truly was terrible. The part written for her didn't make her look any better but she definitely didn't fit in the show