Buyer beware: I bought one of these because the Razer staff at EVO claimed that the Kitsune was compatible with Keychron low-profile optical switches, which is a claim that's also repeated in this video. They do work (as in, the switches will actuate), but I've tested it extensively with both Keychron whites and browns, and I experienced issues with the switches not resetting consistently. The keycaps on this controller use a weird sort of captured design to minimize wobble and rattling. When you press down on a button particularly hard and/or on the edge of the button, the keycap can get jammed, resulting in the switch being held down. You have to kind of smack the button again to get it to release. This issue doesn't occur with the stock Razer switches, but it consistently occurs with the Keychrons. I think it's due to some minute difference in the geometry of the stem. I ended up swapping Kailh Choc pink springs into the Razer red switches for a lighter actuation force, and the Kitsune is now my favorite leverless controller. No more reset issues. So, while the Kitsune does have hot swap sockets and nominally supports third party switches... yeah, it kind of actually doesn't. Clearly Razer never really tested this claim, nor has any reviewer who's repeating this claim.

Converted from Arcade stick to the Leverless kitsune 4 weeks ago. 1st session: I could barely do anything 2nd: had the fundementals down 3rd: starting to learn bugger combos 4th: got bigger combos down 5th: feeling overall pretty comfortable with it Fast forward to now… I feel very comfortable and Im able to do certain things that I had a difficult time with on arcade stick. A couple things are still slightly difficult to do like double hadoken facing the left and instant over head down kicks with chun li. Those two things I had down pat on stick. Im almost there though… I tried my stick a few days ago just to see what it feels like and its night and day difference at this point. Stick feels restrictive now and it requires significantly more effort to do things like crouching medium kick to drive rush combo which an extremely important combo. Overall Im 95% satisfied with my kitsune. My only gripe is that it doesnt have lit up buttons so I can see them in the dark

Thank you! straight-to-the-point explanation video without talking about talking about "unboxing". Dont know why other KZfaqrs are so obsessed with cardboard packaging.

Super glad you at least mention how much of a pain finding a leverless controller is, availability is a huge plus for the Kitsune imo. I just got into SF6, I play mostly PC games otherwise so i started on keyboard then decided I wanted to try leverless. The process of cycling through a dozen random websites and etsy shops, seeing they're literally all sold out, then falling down a rabbit hole of buying a board/buttons/casing (then worrying about system compatibility) and making your own leverless is just a huge turn off to actually getting one. Then I saw the Kitsune, it had just released. just pressed "buy now" and it got here a week later. Yes it's expensive, but when the alternatives are to wait forever and hope you find one in stock or build your own it's a premium I'll pay.

I finally got mine yesterday and i'm loving it! Finally I could purchase a leverless controller, it's super hard here in Malaysia to get one. Surprisingly it didn't take more than an hour to get used to the jump button, coming from someone who only uses fightsticks before this. The matte finish on the Cammy version I have is also not an oil magnet.

I was literally getting ready to search of the review of the razer kitsune and your video pops up and BAM!! I’m ready to enjoy! I’m very excited! I get mine tomorrow!!

Dude that Mazda Miata ad 8:19 😍!! I've always known you were a man of culture

I got mine a few days ago and gotta say I'm enjoying using it a lot! It's been a bit of a learning curve using one for the first time but it's so nice to use.

had mine for months now....love everything about it!

Amazing review! I picked one up and I absolutely love it. I thought I was going crazy with the button spacing hahaha. Glad I wasn’t wrong about it.

Nice to see. I've bought the ASindo conversion kit based off your video and have a Snackbox Micro, but neither quite scratches the itch. If I can ever get this on discount one day I'll probably bite. As an Xbox-first player it's more complicated now.

definitely been waiting on this review. ive seen others on the hitbox, but its from some people that either dont really play fighters or arent really all that passionate about these types of controllers, so insight from them was rather limited. im on the market for a hitbox and im not too fussed about the price, though i also want to try it out and see if its the control scheme for me. I managed to hit platinum in SF6 which isnt high but as my first fighting game im taking seriously it felt like an accomplishment, using the Victrix pro bfg. i plan to try a hitbox with SF6, and Tekken 8, and wanted something for PS5/PC. So thanks for the review man, this could be the one i grab

Found you from HBomberGuy! Can't believe I've never heard of you before as I've been playing fighting games for a bit!

I would love to see you check out some of the leverless designs Mavercade is experimenting with utilizing extra buttons specifically the KeebFighter 03 and KeebBrawler 04

3:40 that is why it is optimal to jump with your left hand. After several years of right hand jumping, I eventually had to train myself to use only my left hand for movement. With the exception of dash macros.

One of the best reviews I ever seen🎯…! Thank you 🤝 💯

So overpriced tho

I own one. Overall: it’s damn good, quiet, feels high quality, not worth the price.

We are too far in the future to not have controllers that work with everything out the box

Damn perfect timing! I was literally flipping between websites for a leverless controllers only to see everything is sold out or doesn’t ship for a month. I already have a Panthera so why not add a Kitsune to the mix

Great review. I’m tempted to get the Chun Li version. I had the Mad Catz Chun Li fight stick back in the day!

Just got my Kitsune controller today. Bought it cuz my left hand has been hurting for 3 weeks playing SF6. But playing this controller today my left hand doesn't hurt. Love how light and small this controller is too.

I got one at launch. If you're on the fence just buy it. It's fantastic.

My favorite thing about the Kitsune as a PC player is the touch pad. I have a TV on the other side of my office wall hooked up and that's where I sit to play Street Fighter. It's soo annoying to have to run in my office if something needs mouse input. The trackpad is a very nice addition for me.

All I worried about was a transparent cover and the SOCD situation, and you answered both. I think my purchase is solidified

Being available to buy and officially licensed make it a no-brainer for me. A lot of people say it’s overpriced and while it is relatively expensive you have to ask yourself if the “it just works” feature is of value to you. I will gladly pay for convenience if I know the thing I’m buying will work out of the box, not require modding, is high quality, and will continue to work because it’s officially licensed.

Great review Nihongo, you are one of the most remarkable content creators that fully explains the ins and outs of the sticks, also, which game shows up at 0:16 seconds? It looks interesting.

Still deciding between this and victrix fs12 before tekken 8 comes out 😵‍💫

the second I saw you playing granblue I was sold, this is exactly what I was looking for lmao

Great video production Nihongo !

How does it compare to the Victrix hitbox overall? I'm using that one right now my one main issue is that the buttons are quite small. The ones on the Kitsune seem to be comfortably big.

W ulil clip, I’m trying to get into fgs but I cant decide on either getting a leverless, stick or a controller

which key caps could you switch these with? thanks

i still dont get how you hit diagonal with one of these . wish there were under $75 one i can try for ps5

Hey NihongoGamer have you ever considered doing commentary? You have a very good voice and tons of knowledge about multiple fighting games. I'd love to see you doing that!

i got the chun li flavor, my first leverless. i have been using stick for my whole life and this is SO weird to adapt to. i bought it for tekken 8 but have been playing sf6 on it. it’s strange having to learn a full new input method AND character at the same time, as i play grapplers only and i can’t imagine that with a leverless. really premium quality though, just wish the design was printed on and not a sticker.

Compare to Victrix pro fs-12, which one do you prefer

There was a time when I thought that I would never switch to leverless, especially as the Brooks FGC adapter resurrected my old Hori FS3 from the dead. However, after trying and failing to execute the EWGF move on Tekken 8 over Christmas, I decided to purchase the Razer Kitsune. It will be delivered tomorrow, so I can't yet say whether it's the right decision or not, but in theory, an all-button controller will be more precise and allow me to execute the EWGF more consistently. I'm looking forward to experimenting with it. 🙏

Heads up, on the recommendation of this video I got a set of Punk Workshop caps to replace my stock caps since they were beginning to shine and they work fine for the action buttons and left/right/down buttons but the up button doesn't work with them because the housing for the switch is larger and causes the PWS cap to stick when pressed down. Now I'm left with one mismatched button cap that will eventually get shiny too unfortunately.

Thanks for this review. You've convinced me to purchase the Haute 42 M16+

I grew up with Arcade controllers (80's to mid 90's), so I like it more than every other controller on the market, I would like to get one to play a game which requires all the buttons that a regular console controller has, stick, d-pad, and all the others. Is there an Arcade stick controller which has it?

Do you prefer the kitsune over the victrix sf 12?

Do a followup video. Wanna hear more about this controller lol.

what is thumb jump priority? Im new to all button controllers idk what that means.

How do we connect this controller to PC having trouble having both this and my keyboard at the same time

Have you tried playing for an extended time with any other switches, including other razor optical low profiles? My caps always end up tilting back-and-forth or sticking eventually just curious if you have a trick to stop that from happening

Do you have to do anything on the Razer app for the Kitsune?

Been playing tekken 7 loving this fight pad. Can’t wait for tekken 8

my left wrist has been giving me some guff lately, so I've been planning on getting a leverless controller for a while. Ordered the bits for 5 flatbox rev 5s a while back, still waiting on the actual RP2040-Zero controllers and the tiny tac switches. if it works out well for me, I've got my eyes on the kitsune

I get mine today.... soo excited...

Are the punk workshop keycaps that are usable all one size? Or would you need a 30mm for the jump button?

Great review!

Just ordered mine today. Pulled the trigger. I experimented with a leverless with keyboard keys, however those buttons are too close to one another. The Kitsune will make me feel more at home with their button layouts

Does anyone know which keycaps fit the kitsune from punk workshop? The 24mm or the 30mm im new to this kinda of stuff

which one is better between the pantera stick and the tes2 + see the tes +??

I finally got mine today. Gotta say, even though I was a bit sceptical about the price, I think it's worth it. The other button-only controllers aren't really much cheaper over here and this one feels quality and is slim and light. It also fits my smaller hands pretty well without being an actual mini controller, so I'm happy with my purchase.

This looks great for desk play, but how is it for lap play? I'm concerned that it might not be wide enough for lap play if you're not keeping your legs tightly together.

does anyone have the same issue, that this controller is only working, when i connect it AFTER i launched steam? when i bootup windows with it, it doesn't even have the lighting on.

Been using leverless controllers for fighting games since the first gen Hitbox (had the multi console version), and this is the first time I've thought about buying a controller that isn't a Hitbox. Brand loyalty and all that... Now if I can just get my hands on the Cammy version, all will be well in the universe.

This is or Victrix Pro FS-12?

been thinking bout buying this or the hit box variant

How well does it work on PC?

For those who are worried about how much of an oil magnet the Kitsune's surface is, get one of the ones with a decal applied; i.e.: Chun/Cammy versions. I've got the Chun version and it remains clean looking always. The buttons however will accumulate shiny/smooth spots over time. Not a whole lot that can be done about that other than replace them.

I was gonna get this as my first leverless and then I saw PS5/PC only.. and I have an Xbox.. ugh the struggles

Off topic but what's the puzzle game shown at 0:45 ?

Hori Fighting Stick Alpha or razer kitsune?

Now I'm curious if my street fighter 4 fight stick will work on the ps5

i do hope razer come up with a budget option paying more than 200$ for a hitbox is just not for your average person who barely even have enough for a dlc fighter

What is thumb jump priority?

Is it compatible with Xbox series X? I have a brook wingman xb 2 but not sure if it supports the kitsune.

Excellent review

Hello, how can I remove the keycaps easily? @6:40

Tried many leverless controllers, ended up using the one I crafted from a shoebox. The softest surface + custom button placing. Yes, it doesnt look good, tho, It doesn't injure my wrists and fingers that much. Oh yes, it is also cheap af and replacement is always available.

Has anyone in the comments gotten it to play purely for the PC? If so, any issues with it lately? I may get this down the road but hesitant cause I game on PC mainly now

Just got the SF6 Chun Li Kitsune for my PS5 ...but I also have a Xbox Series X and a Brook Wingman XB2... Wasn't sure if it would work, especially with Xbox cracking down and supposedly only allowing licensed controllers on the Series consoles (as of Nov '23 I think it was?)... Flip the Kitsune to PC mode and with the Wingman it works on the Series X! Total bonus!! (Appropriate given that's where my copy of SF6 actually is!) Not only that but also on Xbox 360 and OG Xbox tested fine. (Can't help feeling there's going to be a catch with the Xbox Series - like Xbox/Microsoft will close whatever the loop-hole is at some point ...will just have to see if it carries on working okay as is. Maybe Brook issues a new Wingman in the future with an Xbox licenced chip in it, or such like)

Nihongo will this work with another games like Metal Slug? Can you give it a try outside fighting games? I have SnackBox Micro, and I know it cannot play outside fighting games.

Been loving it.

Please, ask someone very important question. Is it compatible with Steam Deck?

What do you mean by thumb jump priority?

What are the games shown off here? Some of them look really intrresting

Hi, today i did L3 shortcut on fightstick, the problem is i dont know how i did, i was wondering if u can give me that information pls? Like 3 & 4 = L1...1 & 3 = L2...2 & 4 = R1... ?? = L3...

Should I buy this over the OG hitbox for my first leverless controller? I wanna try out a new controller but $250+ is a big investment for something I’m completely new to

Please try the Haute42 T16/T13 and make a comparison video. It's a complete bargain in comparison to this. Similar slim design and similar low profile switches for 1/3 of the price.

what’s the anime fighter in the video? looks cool

I wonder if Razer would make an Xbox version of The Kitsune since we can't use Hitboxes and Cross-ups on any Xbox consoles?

I got it last week. Was not sold on how much I was going really like it until I could get my hands on it. As soon as I held it, I fell in love and threw my Hitbox in the closet. Only complaint is I hope they give us a clear top case we can buy so we can add artwork in the future. Outside that's it's amazing in every way feels freaking great!

anyone else noticed when he touches the button, the like/dislike buttons glows rgb? 12:00

Don't know if it has happened to anyone else but I had to get a new one because my right button would stick and I couldn't fix it

Wait is razer kitsune compatible with ROG ally?

I just wish they make the reverse layout. The optical tech means you can't reverse the button layout by yourself :(

Do they make one for Xbox?

Amazon been on backorder for weeks now 😅 so much for availability

Got mine just intime for release of tekken 8 and its pretry nice

Is it can be use on pc?

Buttons so close together. I wonder if thats better or worse for your hands/wrists/

does anyone know if this detects as a ps5 controller? I have a snackbox and it detects as a usb controller so I wasn’t able to use it for majority of fighting games.

1:57 what game is this?

Will it work on xbox or do I need an adapter for it?

it looks pretty good...but i hate that kind of plastic that get permanent smudges over time and usually under a couple months :/ i don't know how long you've had it, but it looks like it's getting there.

Anybody tried to fit low profile cherry mx silvers ?