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mike walsh-thorpe ur likes as of this point are 420

I know it sounds insane, but that is a big part why most children's television is the way it is: people trying (and always failing) to make the youth not fall into the same issues of greed, war, and apathy for one's fell man that the generations before dealt with. A noble, if ultimately pointless endeavour. As we have seen though with thawing of cold war issues, improving of the US's relationship with North Korea, etc. a change in media and more importantly time can, in some small way at least, lead to long-term change. Yes, I am saying shit like Spongebob has value.

@Shaman X Have you seen the recent episodes? XD Also, I was making a joke of an ostensibly "dumb, but good" show that has far-reaching influence over kids and the future population.

I guess you've never heard Jim's final thoughts on it: "We're not inheriting the world from our parents, we're borrowing the world for our children."

"Why do something the easy way, when the difficult way also works." - German proverb

This comment is criminally underrated.

@@patrickcross1571 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I didn’t know he could move his fingers individually Although I can’t say I’m surprised he does

Buying your own movie back from a billionaire tyrant for $15 mil, having it be average but not falling flat enough to still pull in $60 mil at the theaters and quadruple your budget investment, I say he did okay.

@@MrWolfSnack That $60M didn't all go to Jim of course, lots of expenses and other people to pay. Is $60M the raw ticket take? Cos then the cinemas have to take their share of that too, and that's no small one. Still I suppose he was the sole rights owner, so he'd make his money back. He probably owned merchandising too, but there weren't so many Dark Crystal lunch boxes about back then. Storybooks and stuff, maybe toys, I dunno, but I doubt it was big money.

man, you gotta get out more. there are people who are good, you just gotta look for them in the right places.

fd

Way before woke culture or people getting deeply offended easily

@@JaiPritchett Maybe you should watch the show, it might help you to become less insensitive. : (

​@Jai Pritchett Jim was "Woke" you idiot. He was brilliant.

There is no such thing as an unhealthy obsession with Jim Henson and Muppets.

You have got to visit the Jim Henson exhibit at the Museum of the Moving Image in NYC.

I’m the 200th like!

@@robynbrown415 As I live in NYC, I'm going to go there now. Not this second, of course.

nah that's perfectly healthy

Well, if you look at it from the Soviet Perspective, I can see how it could like or at least jive with propaganda on their end: -The only clearly religious character is a con artist -Taken in combination with the above, the Christmas special may have appeared to be shooting down religion as well, "There is no great bell, it is all a lie." "But there is a great bell at the heart of the rock." "The great bell is [snip]... our bells keep the rock moving, it is our music that keeps the rock alive." -The whole episode "The Perfect Blue Rollie" can be easily construed as bashing capitalists. Though to be fair their solution would be to have Wimbly seize the means of production =D -"The Gorg Who Would be King" has a strong focus on egalitarianism, a point both east and west media machines claimed over the other despite hypocrisy both ways, pointing out only the hypocrisy of the other. - The story involves no clear currency, the Fraggles themselves seem to operate in a way similar to the Federation in Star Trek. Is such a perspective the actual intention of the artists? Idk, after some reflection as an adult I started to really wonder if the show was intended to be Marxist. I think after watching this that it was not the intention, but appears that way due to a similar mistake in assuming the benevolence of every human being.

The wall fell dur to neglect. The Soviets didn't respond and send more guards to a certain gate and the man in command got so fed up with tue protesters and not having any back up he just opened the gates. And by the time the comanders found 9ut the wall was coming down all over

Is that what they're teaching in school because that's nowhere near correct........

I read what you typed there and then, out of nowhere, it dawned on me to look up "fraggle_rock" on e621 _just_ to see if there was anything there. ... Yeah... Yeah, there's some stuff there. Goodbye, untouched part of my childhood.

@@quinnking8405 There's no way you believe that. Please don't let others teach you history. Read the books written by people who were there and who have nothing to lose by telling the truth. The wall didn't fall because of gravity and neglect.

same here. i feel you

It hurt my little soul… I still bawl when I see the episodes.

We're the same age. I cry so hard every time I watch the last episode. Such a beautiful show.

Big facts

Um, no.

Are you an LA movie, singer or song writer?

@@ellestar2306 writer yes, but not in LA. Why do you ask? I'm interested in work in the entertainment industry.

@@aburninglandfillofbadmovie2930 I just really liked the way you worded your comment and figured you must've had some work out in the public by now. Also new to defunct and really enjoying the content, with your comment making it better.

As we see all this inequality in America. I have been saying. " Either all of us are equal. Or none of us are."

@Evi1M4chine No. With Jim, he believed that either everything is important or nothing itself is.

Sophia Bogard inequality seems to follow not following social and moral rules. Don’t value education, don’t work, don’t save, spend more than you make on stupid things (mostly entertainment), get addicted to hand outs, get addicted to some form of substance abuse, don’t control sexual urges. After a few years of this, or a few generations, you find yourself unequal with those who follow the rules. You can recognize this, change your choices and improve yourself, but most seem to keep doing what causes their failures and blame those who follow the rules and have success.

@@jerryyoung6494 And what about the people who follow the rules but still never get ahead?

Hitmon Chan , the comment was originally that there was inequality in America. I strongly disagree with this. The opportunity for success is there for all. But not everyone succeeds at the same level. On a community level those with broken families (no fathers present), those who don’t control themselves sexually making babies and disease outside of marriage, those who don’t value education, those who don’t value the law, and those who become dependent on handouts, they simply don’t succeed except for the rare exception through sports or entertainment. And that’s usually short lived. It’s based on world view and behavior and until it changes the success rate will not improve. Typically racism is used as an excuse, but then non-whites such as Asians succeed in the US but look at how that community values my list above. On an individual level if I get an art degree and you get an engineering degree, you will tend to be more financially successful than me. But we aren’t guaranteed equal outcomes, only equal opportunity. There are exceptions such as when poor health affects things, but that’s not an inequality issue

Time is unforgiving Mollz. We all knew this would eventually come.

I was gonna say something, but you put it perfectly. Oof.

Couple that with the fact that the credits have naught but a ticking clock sound… D:

It was like a knife in the heart

I have fucking tears in my eyes this doesn't feel funny anymore

What? They are the size that they are. The Gorgs are way bigger than Silly people

scooptime the gorgs are giants, Fraggles are a similar size to an average toddler

Nah, Junior Gorg is 25-30 feet tall

The fraggles are always fraggle sized.

@@autizztic sometimes Gobo was smaller than Sprocket

That was a criminal decision. It was brilliant.

Indeed. It was SHOCKINGLY good. I was skeptical before it came out, but they did a marvelous job. Truly honored Jim Henson's vision and legacy with it.

Sad 😢

There's something to be said about that hippie genius. Naivete can be a wonderful thing at times...

You're a retired marine? Thank you for your service, you made the ultimate sacrifice for this beautiful country. May God bless you sir.

@@BMoney8600 Appreciate your very kind comments, but honestly I did what I thought was right and it wasnt much worth thanking. A lot of guys gave up so much more than me: marriages, limbs, sanity, their very lives (thank anyone of those guys much as you can, folks). I normally don't mention my service, but did it here to emphasize how even us trained, heartless warfighters can look at Jim Henson trying to make world peace happen through a puppet show and actually believe "He might pull it off and put us all out of work". Cheers.

Joshua Cochran You're welcome. I am thankful to everyone who served in the military. I am the same way with police officers since my grandfather is a retired homicide detective for the CPD. Everyone in the military should be thanked along with civil servants.

@@BMoney8600 No arguments there mate.

"There's not a word yet for old friends just met" feels appropriate here, but I mean, it fits, doesn't it?

Bear in the Big Blue House was made after his death and that's one of the best shows that uses Muppets.

Only if there's enough of them left that you know what you're missing.

Jim probably didn't get to meet most of his fans. but when ever he made something he made it you and the rest of us in mind. sure it was his creative vision, but he made what he made for everyone.

I just said the same thing that I really wish I could have met him like he was a dope human being I wish I could just thank him for creating so much stuff that I love and still watch

I love how he was a perfectionist, and yet he was so non-demanding and interfering. It’s like he knew he had a knack for hiring incredibly talented people who were always capable of bringing his visions to life exactly as he saw them in his head, so he knew he could trust them.

⁠@@crescentfreshbrethe was also an artist at heart. Plus he said he liked the make the muppets grow organically. So, I’m sure he did the same with others. Like David Goelz, who started in the mullet workshop and then slowly worked his way into part time performer to full time.

All those years I thought it was Rocky IV

Even the sponsorship announcement is hilarious! Great comedy here.

Are you talking about the Defunct TV or Fraggle Rock?

Well, it was from a time when companies cared about children and not their parent’s wallets.

@@madamebluebell4597 theyre talking about the jim henson series on this channel, no the show, lol

Turned that 999likes into 1k, and I couldn’t be more pleased w the comment I got to do it to.🤗

As a someone born in '94, I can safely say Jim Henson's teachings go well beyond that. (Sadly some people have just forgotten.)

Ditto. I must let my children watch Fraggle Rock & the Muppet Show instead of the drivel produced nowadays.

@@ForrestFox626 I was born in 2004 and I was raised on Muppets and Fraggle Rock! Jim Henson shaped my entire world view and sense of self, and Fraggle Rock is the reason I’m determined to become a puppeteer for the company in the future 🥰

@@booberfraggle Dude I was literally just about to comment almost exactly this minus the puppeteer stuff, like we were even born in the same year, that's super cool

@@nameillprobablyregret6533 Oh that’s awesome!!! I wish I could run into someone like you irl 😭 we could talk about Henson things forever

have you ever had the opportunity to answer the question “How did you get into being an architect?” with “Fraggle rock”?? if not, please find one as soon as possible.

@@carlwheezerofsouls3273 The Dosers. They're always designing and building stuff in the background. And I grew up with lots of Lego sets too. Building lots of things from spaceships from Star wars, at at Walkers to the x wing & y wing fighters, to scale of the Lego men. Unfortunately it didn't have camera phones back in the 80s, and the different colour lego bricks....

That’s awesome!! You became an Architect because of Fraggles.. I became a puppeteer 🥰

DOWN AT FRAGGLE ROCK ... down at Fraggle Rock.

Yep I danced as I read that.

“Work your cares away. Dancing’s for another day.” -Doozers

🎶 Let the music play, down in Fraggle Rock! 🎶

We’re Gobo, Mokey, Wembley, Boober, RED!

and Chuck Wagons,.. (and scrubbing Bubbles!) :-)

maybe the Fraggle holes we searched for, were inside of us all along?

Norisa absolutely not

I still look for Fraggle Holes....

I thought I found one at one point but it was just a large rat hole

Are you as stoked as me for the Netflix prequel film to Dark Crystal?

@@krsc1506 Just learned about it yesterday and HELL YEAH!!!

@@krsc1506 And now ive watched it all :)

I've only recently watch the movie (I have Defunctland to thank for that, thanks Kevin!), but man did I enjoy. Can't say I love the story, but Jim Henson always works best with simple stories so he can focus on character and the world. And it is AMAZING!

I really wish to know how exactly he did it

If you don’t know how to end a skit, do it the Muppet way- blow something up or have someone get eaten

At one point in time I (50) used the instrumental portion of the theme song as a ringtone. And I'm proud of it too. 😊

I'm 70 plus and still miss it.

I'm 19 and I still love fraggle rock too! in fact I'm in the midst of reviewing every episode on my channel!

Me too.

You cannot leave the magic. ❤️

@@RubianaRosevine and indeed we could not: there's a reboot currently in production.

@@Supasmartguy Really?

@@rae-raetheturtledemon.5461 yes. It wrapped filming in June.

@@Supasmartguy What's it about?

Jared Abraham Cid FDA he just wanted to create worlds and explore I don’t think he thought about the work he would have to put in the projects to bring those worlds to life like Sesame Street, The Muppet Show, The Muppet Movies, Fraggle Rock and various specials. Even though he was one of the hardest workers ever on earth. He was always looking for new adventures and opening new doors. He just loved to experiment with ideas just like what he did with The Dark Crystal he had it in mind and wanted to experiment with that.

Brock Pifer yah, not that he was a bad creator but I feel his full potential would’ve been realized had he worked with the right people and channeled his creativity properly

Jim was one of my true inspirations and I will always love his work. I loved Sesame, Muppets and Fraggle Rock since I was a baby. I’ll never stop loving his work. I never judge Jim’s work

We could use more Jim Hensons in the world right now 🌎

RogersBase Oh shit, didn’t expect to see YOU here, Roger! 😄

Hokey Smokes, it's Rogersbase! Brother, you've got great taste

Yes I cried over a two weeks did not want it to leave

You know you're doing something right, when a Nintendo KZfaqr comments on a video about the MUPPETS!!

WOW rogerbase

And probably all due to the new show coming soon!

@@mrsrobophile Oh yeah, undeniably! I'm actually very skeptical about the new game because generally tie-in games have been pretty bad overall, but the Netflix series seems to definitely have some money going to it because it looks amazing and I don't doubt at all that they're planning to get as much out of it as they can.

And now their making a series based on it for "Netflix."

@@mnmnnm586 Yup

Coincidentally, my mother watched "The Dark Crystal" for the first time ever last week. She didn't even know it existed until she happened to see the thumbnail of the movie and asked me about it. She thought it was about fairies or something, and I was like "Nope, it's darker." She didn't know Jim Henson made it. *I* was surprised she didn't know about it since she was 19 when it came out.

I caught that one and thought that is social programming right there...scary

Nah. That's just Boober in general. He is the group's pessimist & enjoyed anything relatively boring (he distanced himself from most of the noisy play-making & song-singing of other Fraggles).

@@TherealRNOwwfpooh Taoism will teach u about toxic positivity. This is Boober's refrain. Yin & Yang. Too much of any 1 thing is not good! Too much work like the Doozers & too much play like the Fraggles!

Also, I find it interesting how they made the Gorgs like the elite ruling class seemingly in a different dimension! Typical.

... said from a smartphone on KZfaq...

Cantus Fraggle. A wise, creative mind.

The particularly interesting thing about that line is that he doesn't make a claim of which is true, only what he prefers and the truth is open to interpretation. That was one of the show's strengths: it's nuanced and doesn't talk down to you, in this case, by not handing you answers but instead, offers you questions.

@@jaysonklein6018 Performed by a wise, creative mind in Jim Henson (just as Convincing John ["Listen to Convincing John! And all your troubles will be gone. He's gonna tell it, spell it & sell it just for you!"] was).

XD

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*laughs in Gulf War and Wars in West Asia*

What man?

Man? Career?

Because you can't leave the magic

Reruns.

Because it aged really well and it was in Angry Birds Toons TV.

@@ther0ach28 we grew up with uhhh we think it was the Og Muppet show and the Disney made Muppet movie

Reruns, of course.

Thank you for your service cap.

thankyou

Captindo, thank you for your service, man.

Thank you for your service, now stop crying before I bust you down to KP you sissy freak.

Thank you for your service ❤️

Me too!! My girlfriend thinks I’m crazy sometimes.. she and I are watching it together now 😌

i agree with this, he should do a documentary movie on the life of Jim Henson, i'd pay to see it in theatres

@@BXV2 thats more or less what this season of defuntTV is turning out to be

It helps when nothing has topped it ever since. I'm from the '90s, but I've seen a few episodes through VHS tapes of the show. I had (still have, but haven't touched them in years thanks to having non-working VHS recorders) 4 of Buena Vista's volume tapes (they had a stingy 2 episodes per tape) and 3 HBO Video singles from the '80s (25 minutes a tape). I'm on the fence about buying that Blu-Ray set to replace all of my aging tapes, as there are episodes that are on there that I don't have but it's far easier than tracking all the season DVD boxes down.

@@Code7Unltd Don't get rid of those tapes!

@@1sliiver Getting rid of those tapes would be a waste of money. I'd only dispose of them if they didn't function, but I've seen no mould on the tapes yet.

@@Code7Unltd Well, besides the monetary value, there are your memories as well.

@@1sliiver True. Then again, they were memories of my childhood in a rural area, with only my family's houses nearest to me. There were little city amenities in my neck of the woods as a youngin', save for TV (It was either broadcast where most of the stations had some level of static, or satellite providers with high price tags and bad customer assistance, unless you wanted to make a big dish setup) and phone lines (I had to use that as a tween to get on the internet until 2-way satellite became common). Rural kids are better than 90s kids in my opinion and I was one of both..

It was the best show ever. I miss it so much

Wheres Bob Ross?

@@NathanChisholm041 He's 4th, behind Walt Disney, who's next to Jim & Mr. Rogers. The reason? Unlike the former 3 who didn't serve in combat (Wealthy Presbyterian minister Mr. Rogers was already well into producing The Children's Corner & eventually what became Mister Rogers' Neighborhood during most of the wars he would've refused to partake in out of principle alone, Jim Henson too never really served as a solider as he was too busy expanding puppetry as a viable art form & even though Walt Disney lied about his age to serve, he never saw battle first-hand, but was instead sort of like on reserve & doing his part under the banner of the Red Cross), Bob Ross did serve in combat & turned to painting to likely help him keep from getting PSTD - like many former military personnel who have gone into war just to come back completely changed due to unsafe paranoia generated from the very real imminent danger posed by the encroaching enemy & physically engaging the threat at a deeply personal level - which allowed him to help others like him, as well as captivate future budding artists (some might have even previously "graduated" from watching Michael Carligo's Pappyland as a junior starting tutorial for very young children using basic drawing techniques), all using relatively simple gestures to create lovely masterpieces of nature's beauty featuring billowing, wispy clouds or charming little trees.

@@TherealRNOwwfpooh Thanks for the info mate.

Fuck Walt

@@victorsanchez2112 Why? Don't tell me you believe that xenophobic, anti-Jewish bullshit that the surviving members of the extended Disney family & the one Sherman brother still alive have all disproven?

His work ethic eventually led to his unfortunate downfall : (

You’re not alone; this show has always been a part of me!! Hell, it more or less raised me, and I wouldn’t be anywhere near the person I am today or even have the close friends that I do if I had never seen it. Fraggle Rock not only shaped me as a person, but it helped me find my own dream of becoming a puppeteer!! 💕

He did, he also worked with George Lucas and David Bowie

I think he worked on the movie Willow too.

You can add The Dark Crystal to the list also.

He did. And with a similar message to the final episode of Fragile Rock. "Should you need us..." It wasn't till I was an adult that I truly understood what that meant, and proved that his work is timeless.

@@nickmonks9563 Just remember what the Trash Heap said. "You cannot leave the magic!"

NITRO SHERBERT NITRO SHERBERT 15 seconds ago (edited) You guys know that the reason he died was because the scientologist tell them to f*** over doctors

We all knew this moment was going to come, even though we don't want it to come.

@@nitrosherbert888 No, it's not. He was raised on Christian Science, which is nowhere anything like Scientology. Quit being a trolling idiot.

It was a failure🗑️💩

Me too!

How can a series about Henson not end on his tragic early departure! It's gonna be sad, no bones about it.

You guys know that the reason he died was because the scientologist tell them to f*** over doctors

@@nitrosherbert888 You mean Christian Scientist

@@nitrosherbert888 Christian Scientists not Scientologists.

That's hype as hell

Really? I don't know, I'd personally give it a 5/7.

Hulu has it

That's what the little boy said in a commercial after he turned off the TV and shouted "I L-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-OVE FRAGGILE ROCK!!!"

And let's no forget "The Muppet Show" ended after 5 seasons, and also the demise of ATV, the British distributor of the show which was later became Central TV by early 1982, and the company's founder and producer Lord Grande of both ATV and ITC.

dont u me my brother n me that was nick

We lived in the boonies so we didn't even have cable, so my aunt used to mail us VHS copies of Fraggle Rock. Loved it so much

@@MsDisneylandlover Nick came with the package.... I remember Danger Mouse and Count Duckula.... Were some of my Nick Favourites.... I miss the past.Some much Originality.....😪

Until The Rugrats took over nick!

We weren’t that lucky, but I remember getting to watch it at friends houses or my grandmothers house and it was such a huge deal for me!

DOWN IN FRAGGLE ROCK!

@@KidSnivy69 down in fraggle rock

Down at fraggle rooooock

Muppet Babies!!!!!!!

*Cough* and Jim Pickens

NintenDweeb me too omg!!! All-time favorite show from my childhood! 😍🥰😍👑🥇🏆

Dammit I can't unsee it

Does that make Trash Heap , Grampa?

@@MrSheckstr Marjorie the Trash Heap is female, though. The Old Man in drag?

Somehow that does makes sense.

Well until up to the point he got busted with meth and pot.

My Dad loved it when he was a kid too...in his sixties! Lol Now in his 90's and still laughing.

I loved it too and I loved the dark crystal

I still love it, and i'm 40 .... :O

Same!!!

It used to be on early in the morning on HBO and I'd watch it every day before school. I was about 6 when the show started.

That's sponsoring

I know! When channel's have a one and only staple show that they do, it's usually impossible to make a second series on the same channel that is even decent. But my boy Defunctland just nails it.

You're making me want to wear my hair like Red's. Red is my favourite character, I actually had a huge crush on her when I was little, I still do to this day!

Ill have to disagree. I'm not saying it's not a good show. Fraggle Rock is not near as good as Sesame Street or The Muppet Show.

@@joeljohnson8214 yeah Muppet show was so legendary, A list stars were lining up for a spot on the show.

@@afrosheenix It is just that Fraggle Rock had a far nobler purpose for its existence (i.e. its goal was to stop war in order to champion world peace, making it a world peace pet project series for Jim, not to mention existing as one of of the first truly international programs, right alongside the foreign versions of Sesame Street) rather than Sesame Street's multi-racial & inter-species human and Muppet casts teaching rudimentary elementary basics as well as all-inclusive multiculturalism to preschool children (the focus was initially geared towards those kids from low-income, inner city "ghetto" neighborhoods, who were shown in child psychological studies to be behind their peers in terms of their educational levels) or The Muppet Show beginning in 1976 (and its eventual late 90's counterpart Muppets Tonight, made posthumously) existing as Jim's undeterred success in achieving his aim of a prime time Muppet show using the vaudevillian sketch comedy templates of old that originally catered to intelligent, satirical adults moreover than impressionable children to avoid Jim's being pigeon-held as a children's entertainment provider due to the world's ignorance of seeing puppetry as an art strictly just aimed at kids.

@@TherealRNOwwfpooh so Fraggle Rock was peak hippie? It's too bad it's not on the cartoon network or something in syndication.

@@afrosheenix Funny enough, I actually just saw in syndication on an over the air channel (I don't remember which) just the other day, stopped me in the middle of what I was doing and sat down to watch for a bit. I just had the TV on for background noise while I was doing some housework.

They are asking me to leave

So I wasn't the only one thinking about Hamilton ✒

Mine too