Defying Tyranny: Masih Alinejad's Courageous Battle in Iran

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6 ай бұрын

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It was my pleasure to speak with Masih Alinejad, a hero who has shown courage and willpower in her fight for the freedom of women in Iran, and against the beastly clerics who rule it.
Her book The Wind In My Hair and her ongoing campaign to dismantle the oppressive dictatorship of Khameini, calls for Iranian women to protest against the country’s law of forced-hijab. The symbolic gesture is also reflective of growing rebellion in the nation that battles extremist Islamism’s disdain for basic human rights and freedoms.
We spoke about others like Salman Rushdie and Narges Mohammedi who continue to fight censorship through their work despite the risks, and about Masih’s continued efforts to meet hatred with courage.
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@poetryofreality 6 ай бұрын

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@MAY-bm3lh 6 ай бұрын

An Iranian woman here (from Iran) thank you so much for supporting us Richard ❤

@alimuhammad3704 6 ай бұрын

Zan, Zendagi, Azadi

@kingpriapatius5832 6 ай бұрын

Hello from Greece.

@djchaiwallah 6 ай бұрын

Persians existed over 3,000 years without Islam, and yet are now handicapped by a devotion to a religion of regression.

@ArshamHassani 6 ай бұрын

I'm an Iranian born in 2000. In 2013 when I was 13, I encountered two books that completely changed the curse of my life: 1_ Grand Design by Stephen Hawkins - which made me pursue mathematics as a career and start questioning creationism. 2- God Delusion by Richard Dawkins - which enabled me to annoy and frustrate my religion teachers as much as one can 😆.I claim more than 80% of my school mates from high school are atheists . I really really appreciate it that you invited Massih, and I hope the Iranian new atheist generation will one day be able to meet great thinkers like you inside free Iran.

@Liberty5024 6 ай бұрын

My friend, is there any way the secular minded good people can revolt against the theocratic Iranian government and turn it into a secular country?

@SirBroodAlot 6 ай бұрын

@@Liberty5024 We (normal people in Iran) are trying, and dying for it But this regime is too brutal, they shoot point blank at unarmed civilians, also our opposition "leaders" outside Iran are dysfunctional and practically useless, so... All I can say is that we're still fighting

@LittleVboh 5 ай бұрын

I wish you the best, live well and prosper.

@cyrusaalborg 5 ай бұрын

As an Iranian athiest , Christopher Hitchens and you sir changed my life ,thank you for God Delusion and your support

@breadfan7433 6 ай бұрын

Imagine someone wanting to silence this voice... My heart goes out to all the Muslim and non-Muslim women oppressed by the theocrats. You are our daughters, our sisters, our mothers, and you deserve to be free.

@Reet64 6 ай бұрын

As a long term feminist, I have for many years been absolutely frustrated with how liberal feminism would bow down to the patriarchy of other people’s cultures and religions in the interest of being “inclusive”. You can’t fight the patriarchy by including it. Thank you to you both for openly challenging the powers that be.

@nanoeletron 6 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@fscottfitzgerald115 6 ай бұрын

FIrstly, there is no patriarchy. Also, you should go to the middle east and stand up for women. You'd be useful over there. lol

@jurassicthunder 6 ай бұрын

And second, there's more of oppression of men than women if you actually dare to look at the statistics. Feminism has gone too far.

@jcortese3300 6 ай бұрын

And you can't be anti-racist by not giving a damn for brown women as long as brown men are the ones oppressing them. That drives me nuts that they are so willing to look the other way as long as the men who are treating women like trash are as dark as the women. Do the women's brown skins not count or something?!

@Liberty5024 6 ай бұрын

@@fscottfitzgerald115I am an Indian man. There might be no more patriarchy in the West as the feminists complains. But to think that patriarchy exists nowhere in the world is an extremely unrealistic and irrational claim. Especially under a video mentioning Islam.

@johndillon2426 6 ай бұрын

In the West Midlands, UK, there is an initiative to erect a statue celebrating the hijab called The Strength of the Hijab! Atheism UK is launching a campaign to oppose its erection on public land.

@Matin1999_unique 6 ай бұрын

As an Iranian, it makes me proud to see Masih on the front line of fighting against barbaric islamic laws imposed on us for more than 4 decades and having a lovely conversation with one of the people I respect a lot, professor Richard Dawkins who helped me a lot on leaving islam at the age of 20 after reading his famous book, The God Delusion (obviously besides other books and interviews, debates). By the way, I didn't know you have such a beautiful voice in singing, Masih. 😅 Damet Garm dokhtare Iran zamin. ❤✌️

@MAY-bm3lh 6 ай бұрын

I'm so thankful for Richard's support and this interview! I've been a fan of his for some years now and just like Masih, I hope to have him in Iran once we're free! Iran has many many atheists and so many of us admire him! I can't help but dream about seeing and listening to Richard in a conference in Tehran. Maybe some day?

@Bil491 6 ай бұрын

The Muslims in Pakistan makes an argument in the support of Iranian regime that the people who are protesting are just a tiny minority and the majority supports sharia laws and are okay with Iranian regime which i think also doesn't give them the right to impose their believes on others but i am curious is the number of atheists are enough or there any secular Muslims in Iran to over throw this regime ?

@LudwigZand 6 ай бұрын

@@Bil491 Especially young people in Iran are very secular. Since they associate Islam with dictatorship, murder and oppression they don't want anything to do with it. However, even the deeply religious are against the Islamic Republic. This revolution isn't led solely by secular Iranians but by Iranians of all walks of life. No matter what they believe - or don't believe - they are united by a deep yearning for freedom and love for this great nation, that is currently occupied by Islamist terrorists. The mullahs kill our compatriots, no matter if they are Muslims, atheists or Zoroastrians. So everyone is united against them. The only people who support the regime are those who profit from its systematic oppression and exploitation (IRGC and their relatives and other people who work for the regime). If the governments in countries like the US or Germany would stop giving the mullahs money, legitimizing and supporting them, we might have gotten rid of them already.

@stm1412 6 ай бұрын

@@Bil491its not about being Muslim or Atheist, majority of people and amongst them Atheists, muslims, .... dont want that regime anymore. People including independent muslims want a secular government who doesn't interfere with people's personal lives

@momo19991 5 ай бұрын

@@Bil491There is a growing number of atheists in Pakistan who support our sisters and brothers in Iran. The majority of people in Iran do not identify as religious Muslims and want religion to be kept at home!

@majidjamili2157 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Richard and Masih, with love from Iran

@stm1412 6 ай бұрын

Did you know you have so many fanatical fans in Iran Richard?, and I am proudly one of them! I am really happy I'm alive in the period that you are and can see and listen to your valuable works

@Masstoenergy 6 ай бұрын

Huge applause for that lady! Thank you, Richard, for being you!

@VeReePW 5 ай бұрын

A very valuable and enlightening conversation. The question still remains why extremists hate singing and dancing women. Why do they hate female expression so much?

@user-ln7sc9fk5v 5 ай бұрын

As an female Iranian girl writing to u from Tehran , Im the one who Dr Dawkins documentaries and debates made me a evolutionary neuroscientist( a student of course ) . I faced a big problem for my dissertation to be about evolution, bcz of laws. I would love to be able to email Dr Dawkins . He’s the one I owe ,He kinda changed my belief system when I was a teen born . You can’t believe the number of atheists youth here . Can’t explain more bcz of security issues . Btw Loved the video, Masih is a hero

@xeon2872 6 ай бұрын

I just want to say that i am so happy to see a fellow iranian on this channel. Richard dawkins is solely responsible for me realizing the true nature of religion and ultimately leaving it. I will always be grateful to people like richard for making the world a better place

@MAY-bm3lh 6 ай бұрын

OMG SHE SINGS IN THE VIDEO? I love her😭

@stm1412 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for inviting Masih, she is one of the best if not the best Iranian activists out there.

@ForNika 6 ай бұрын

Mullahs have been holding Iran hostage for over a thousand years, these Two greatest brave people are my most favourite people, The word "Secular" has been added to the vocabulary of new Iranian generation letter by letter. Change is coming, slowly but surely. Maseeh has a great voice too.

@Chadyaniki 5 ай бұрын

If one person can be oppressed then we will all be oppressed!

@user-tv1eh2xu4z 6 ай бұрын

Hi, Thank you for the interview. I am an ex Muslim and I was borne in Egypt. I’m going to make an attempt on answering that very important question, why are they scared of women, as I spend the first 28 years of my life in an Islamic culture and I was a devout Muslim. Islam has created this connection between honour and women’s sexual organs. I was actually arguing this with a woman on facebook yesterday. I grew up in the 70s and the country was fairly liberal. Then I spent my teenage years in the 80s where the poisoned fruit of Wahhabism from SA have ripened and the country started to become radicalised. That connection between honour and women’s sexual organs means that any act of a woman in my family or neighbourhood that shows her freedom of choice, would be considered a challenge to my honour and integrity. We have been spoon-fed that by so society from a very young age. That puts a responsibility on a man to try and make women sexually unappealing to other men. The reason behind this honour connection needs another comment. I do not wish to bore anyone with a very long comment but if anyone would like to know, I’ll reply. Long live freedom and down with barbarism

@marissalorion1244 5 ай бұрын

I’d be interested to know! I’m sorry you had to go through this and I’m glad you found a way out.

@fro_3 5 ай бұрын

It is to reduce a woman’s personhood to a body and nothing more, an object. An object that is “traded” on her wedding. An object that must live in a position of submissiveness to the wills of men. Of course, this also extends to the husband’s entire family. Often times, the mother in law get’s a good workout of projecting all that she endured onto the daughter in law, whom is set in a position of the scapegoat, the other. Then you’ll see the entire family ganging up on her. She has no where to go, no voice to speak with. If she even dares, she’s met with silence at best and criticism, shame, guilt at worst. Wash, rinse and repeat every generation. This is just the tip of the iceberg, the surface matters. Underneath it all, it brews stark hierarchal social structure where men in lower positions must do exactly what the women do at home, he must submit and obey the person above him. He must do as he’s told even to the point of cognitive dissonance. That frustration gets bottled up and projected at home onto the wife. The daughters in the household are groomed into following and normalizing that lifestyle. In the end, they all lose. It’s a lose-lose proposition but everyone is too busy and blinded by the misery they’re producing themselves to see the fundamental problem. The key is in their own hands.

@lflinares 5 ай бұрын

She should be TIME person of the year!

@drodsou 5 ай бұрын

Amazing woman, amazing person. To be in that situation and preserving her smile is beyond admirable.

@mikayilyousof 6 ай бұрын

Banning any form of activity that even slightly hints of the joy and beauty of Life and forcing constant grief has made the people of Iran Depressed, Hopeless, Vulnerable And More easily to control

@confectionerthegreat7060 5 ай бұрын

Awesome interview. Thanks Masih Alinejad and Richard Dawkins #WomanLifeFreedom

@MAY-bm3lh 6 ай бұрын

Oh I totally relate to Masih's anger!

@avasoltanifard3033 6 ай бұрын

Mr. Dawkins you are an absolute legend.

@merlijnxz 5 ай бұрын

Great conversation 🙏🏻

@mariadelpilarcambrabrown4176 5 ай бұрын

Great interview Richard, she's fantastic!

@Liberty5024 6 ай бұрын

Her singing voice is absolutely gorgeous.

@circleoflife3806 6 ай бұрын

A brave and beautiful soul!

@repolarrepolar9833 6 ай бұрын

This woman is gold. As a friend, as a wife, as a mother or as a daughter.

@DoctorFriday81 6 ай бұрын

Awesome woman nuff said

@sasanimani5232 6 ай бұрын

It was a good conversation, Richard

@zero9ee 6 ай бұрын

Wome life freedom Love Masih, brave woman ❤

@lesbrown8099 6 ай бұрын

Informative interview between two engaging, articulate and courageous individuals... thank you ...

@1234567marks 5 ай бұрын

What a truly brave human being, sadly I fear that there is nothing to be done with the regimes that subjugate women, they are too powerful and are feared by the west, the west would rather see women suffer in these countries than risk acts of terror on their own streets. As a side note that lady has a beautiful voice , what a tragedy that it will not be heard by those that should hear it.

@ravenkamalioneplus 5 ай бұрын

The problem is hypocrisy in the west. A while ago when I was active on Reddit, I joined the community of atheists and so I wrote an article about my detestation of Islam, having been born in Iran and raised with the doctrine of Islam. I was shocked when I was attacked by the moderator and got shadow-banned. Even on subreddits about Iran and those wanting freedom for Iran, it is warned that criticism of Islam is not tolerated. All the problems that Iran has and other Islamic countries have is because of Islam. What I would like to ask western people who protect Islam is this: how would they react if Christianity was enforced on them and leaving it would have them killed in the 21st century? We need all western atheists to be on the side of ex-Muslims, but a lot are not.

@saaidsoudagar90 5 ай бұрын

♥ For your you both.♥

@pallavidawson7933 6 ай бұрын

This was such a beautiful interview. What a fearless hero this great woman is. I don’t understand that men were born from women, how could they possibly fear or hate them. the ones who impose the rules on women have the phobia. It’s perverse.

@user-ng9gd4vl9s 4 ай бұрын

I've had to come back to this ladies story. Amazing.

@ShenelaFernando-kq4sb 6 ай бұрын

Loved the episode!!!!!

@MohamadPasandideh 3 ай бұрын

im an atheist from iran . you are one of my inspirations to study biology and cherish every moment in life cause it's one way ticket ❤

@gardengirl6636 6 ай бұрын

Brilliant!

@kingpriapatius5832 6 ай бұрын

As a GREEK I respect Persia/Iran. It's a shame that these wonderful people are under Muslim dictatorship.

@user-ng9gd4vl9s 6 ай бұрын

What a lovely lady.

@CocoaBeachLiving 6 ай бұрын

Incredible interview. Wow. In time, just as we see in the legalization of canabis in the US, it's all just a matter of time. The old guard dies away and the younger, more educated come into their own and decide it's time to speak out in one voice. It takes bravery and most importantly, numbers. If enough women in Iran say no, what can any man do to stop them?

@beback_ Ай бұрын

Very different situations. An unjust law in America, a country that is after all still a democracy, is due to the prejudices of a large portion of the population. So a new, more open-minded generation can overturn it without much of a fuss. Mandatory hijab has been unpopular in Iran since the 1980's. The Islamic Republic simply doesn't respond to the will of the people. 73% of Iranian women are already against mandatory hijab, and guess what, so are 71% of the men. So again, it's not the people against people kind of thing that you imagine it to be.

@benaroti 5 ай бұрын

i bought the kindle and the audio format of the book, thank you both

@uluctavukcuoglu3276 6 ай бұрын

Thank everyone involved for informing everyone about women resistance, strength and importance as well as cruelty of Islamic religious laws but also giving hope to people who suffer. İ hope that they succeed but i see that while they are fighting against, my country (turkey) is going back to their position. İ am sharing with everyone who can understand these podcasts in hopes of making a difference while İ can....

@Bil491 6 ай бұрын

I don't know much about turkeys politics but in the recent elections Erdogan did not win with a quit big margin so i think there's hope for turkey. Also turkey is already a secular country you guys are way bless than other Muslim countries

@jameswright... 6 ай бұрын

@@Bil491 Turkey is secular in name only really but leaning dangerously towards a theocracy in favour of Islam.

@miketherandomguy2456 6 ай бұрын

Masih is so awesome! :)

@AliAliAliAli062 6 ай бұрын

Hijab is not our cultur

@leevv5745 6 ай бұрын

Man created God so he could sin and forgive himself.

@radubradu 6 ай бұрын

Expect this in the UK as the most peaceful gain more power and more leadership positions.

@oleolsen3706 6 ай бұрын

Richard Dawkins is the Jesus of our time, saving us from religion!

@bayrat320 5 ай бұрын

It’s no coincidence that the God Delusion Arabic translation version was downloaded millions of times. 😊

@ja-auch 5 ай бұрын

Richard Dawkins ❤

@ahmetdogan5685 6 ай бұрын

JIN JIYAN AZADÎ

@tranquilnice775 6 ай бұрын

No, the crime is making something so beautiful hide their beauty. The muslim world has it backward.

@pappalorenzo 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Richard Dawkins, one day I was christian, I walked a thousand miles in the desert alone, under the burning egypt sun, hungry and thirsty, deluded and terrified, fasting from dusk to dawn and praying my gutts out, pleading for mercy from a god who never gets enough! Now I'm comfortably seated in my own house with my sweet kittens and a happy new morning, to the dew on the flowers and the shining sunlight, the wild dove and the little naughty bird flipping in the air. Hot coffee on a full stomach, showered and clean and cosy and comfortable and warm, listening to the greatness of classical music, and reading and studying good science and philosophy and literature and art and everything beautiful and everything noble... I am a FREE MAN! I've learned that cry, that echoes loud through ages and eras, after Hipatya and Cleopatra and the library of Alexandria; ATHOS, ETHOS, SOFIS!__LOVE AND FREEDOM! Seriously though; meowmeow? ❤️⚛️😹

@jadenalmeida8592 6 ай бұрын

Thank god geert wilders is the prime minister of neatherlands

@chrispywilliams1992 6 ай бұрын

Why do Richard’s books all have library stickers on them?

@new_criticiser 6 ай бұрын

Currently, Reza Pahlavi is more popular among Iranians than Mrs. Alinjad

@mmdurante1616 6 ай бұрын

Your opinion on this topic is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

@QuantumJJean 5 ай бұрын

not everybody lives in the 21st century. a lot of consensus are needed

@Machomouchseven 27 күн бұрын

Corrigez le slogan. Zen. ISTADEGI. Azadi

@scepticskeptic3794 6 ай бұрын

Islam a religion of peace LOL. Great video!

@Lobosank 6 ай бұрын

1953😊

@rahmatimantalabkordmahaleh2253 5 ай бұрын

Dear professor R. Dawkins, As an Iranian who studied in Iran and in uk been living here about 20 years, just wanted to let you know that this girl been playing fake for a long time against the Iranian new revolution which has been carrying on by the leadership of prince of Iran called Prince Reza Pahlavi. I wish I could see you having a debate with prince of Iran who is far more intelligent character with a concrete position in Iranians hearts and minds. Unfortunately recently been an effort to deny the real streamline of Iranian new revolution by the US government by promoting such weak characters like Massih Alinejad and Narjes Mohammadi ( who has recently been rewarded a peace Nobel prize in a very fishy way, who is a pro a dangerous, fanatic Islamist group called “ Mojahedin Khalgh”) that in this video her name been mentioned. I personally respect you genuinely and been following you as an atheist and as a big fan of science, involved with science, wanted to let you know that this lady and her mentality is not Iranian’s true opposition’ concern at all and hence having a big support from everywhere unlike the prince of Iran still people in Iran are behind their own prince and not support these fake characters.

@Life_42 5 ай бұрын

@pappalorenzo 6 ай бұрын

I like her, but she didn't get that question 😂😂😂 I guess it's the nature of all eastern revolutionaries, too much enthusiasm and poetic nostalgia, but not enough thought in the head, not very wise .. violence in some sense!

@mmdurante1616 6 ай бұрын

What a dumb comment...lol You're ok though!

@AliAliAliAli062 6 ай бұрын

As an Iranian first of all thank u for Ur support, but i should tell u Masih And Narges is not popular u should talk to Reza Pahlavi or Shahin najafi or even Armin navabi ceo of Atheist Republic.❤

@mmdurante1616 6 ай бұрын

I'm an Iranian, and I don't even know who Shahin Najafi and Armin Nabavi are.

@AliAliAliAli062 6 ай бұрын

@@mmdurante1616 خب تو نمیشناسی تقصیر منه؟ تو همین یوتوب جمهوری بی خدایان و شاهین نجفی رو سرچ کن فعالیت هاشونو میتونی مشاهده کنی!

@samANoooo 5 ай бұрын

@@mmdurante1616they're famous Iranian atheists

@ambientjohnny 5 ай бұрын

I'm sure they ask those women how they "identify" before oppressing them... Just pointing out the utter nonsense of "trans" ideology and activist claims that lie about the female sex not being oppressed but only "people who identify as women" (thus trying to include males in that category).

@hezbullahchakari2404 8 күн бұрын

she is not in a position to represent Iranian women and most of her speech is no evidence based.

@burakkaracuban5665 5 ай бұрын

The ads ruin the flow of the conversation

@omarkhodammi7132 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Richard ❤❤❤❤

@Gamekeeper77 5 ай бұрын

Valuable insights from two outstanding and intelligent people. It's extraordinary that these depraved beliefs cause so much wicked and repugnant behaviours in our world.

@ibrahimsozen2781 6 ай бұрын

In Türkiye we have similar problems. We dont have death penalty but sometimes we have same bullying issue. People who they think muslim ( but its not) bullying nonmuslim people. With My poor English its hard to explain. Our country look like muslim but its not. Atatürk realize this sitution. He said "araps religion doesnt fit for turkish people." or something . Some of our writers explains it very well like İlhan Arsel, Turan Dursun. İlhan Arsel went to Amerika and write about why İslam like very barbaric and wrong . Turan Dursun assasined in Türkiye. He wrote about islam too. We have lots of atheist writers or youtubers. Some of them are dead. For example Aziz Nesin was atheist writer. He had hearth attack in 1993. His son Ahmet Nesin is journalist and lives in France. Ahmet is atheist too and doesnt like by turkish people because of his kurdish ideas. Actually i dont like his kurdish ideas too but he is good personality. His brothers Ali Nesin lives in Türkiye. Ali is mathematic profeesor in istanbul. They have orphanry and raising child. Doesnt teach religions to childreen. Ali is libertian or something like that. I dont agree some of Ali Nesin's idea too 😂😂😂 we have Celal Şengör who is Kemalist, just like me🤣😂😂 Celal was professor in Istanbul tecnical universty , he retired now. He is interested in geology, biology and history. You can easly contact with him. Talk about Atatürk with him. Lives in Istanbul. We have atheist youtubers too. One of them who name is Ahmet Balyemez want to talk with you. Ahmet lives in Canada. We have Efe Aydal who lives in Türkiye. We have İbrahim Atabey who lives in russia. Ahmet is not popular but he interested in history. Efe is popular and interested with movie and cinema. İbrahim doesnt like in Türkiye. All of theese yotubers is Kemalist. Kemalizm is not religion. You can talk about this with theese youtubers. By the way Celal's son is biologist in USA.