Demons, but they are Harmless | Against the Odds | Explorer Magic: the Gathering (MTG)

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What are the odds of winning by giving the opponent Archfiend of the Dross with Harmless Offering in a Demon Tribal deck that can also win with Liliana's Contract? Let's find out!
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@SymmetricalDocking Жыл бұрын

"Cats, better than demons." Best line in the video

@fromadhdtodndtomtg Жыл бұрын

Bear prolly agrees.

@the_r4ts Жыл бұрын

_sad demon noises_

@natejablonski Жыл бұрын

But cats are demons...

@charleslynn7420 Жыл бұрын

Harmless offering does feature a cat in the art after all…

@HomeCookinMTG Жыл бұрын

Yea, cats have the advantage of having more than 1 creature at 2 mana on their curve lol.

@Samantho87 Жыл бұрын

You probably forgot that if you make the copy with reflection on your opponent's end step, you don't have to sacrifice it and you untap with it. Lost a bunch of letal like that in game 1. It's also an incredible mana sink when you have two reflections in play

@tyukan2000 Жыл бұрын

He could also have made instant speed chump blockers

@1ogic948 Жыл бұрын

“Harmless Demons” is a sick deck name imo

@tomsmith4698 Жыл бұрын

They have to find an answer to Archfiend, or it will find an answer to them.

@TheWorldsStage Жыл бұрын

I wish Harmless Offering had the same flavor text as Jinxed Idol, where it just says: "Here."

@azuraflame1 Жыл бұрын

at this point in time I watch more of seth play than I play. really enjoy your content and your upbeat attitude and personality.

@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@simic0racle157 Жыл бұрын

I want to see a Liliana's Contract deck based on changelings.

@christianbarrett3040 Жыл бұрын

I play it in an ally's commander deck with maskwood nexus as the maskwood nexus enables an infinite etb loop for me.

@HomeCookinMTG Жыл бұрын

@@christianbarrett3040 changing creature types always leads to crazy interactions, my favorite is the card conspiracy. Its an older card that works similarly to Maskwood nexus, but you choose a creature type, and it makes all your creatures that type. The thing is, it's NOT in addition to their other types, so if you name...scarecrow, and then cast Restoration angel while you control reaper king, resto can now blink itself (because it's no longer an angel) and you get to blow up ALL THE THINGS

@AbyssalFury Жыл бұрын

Seth actually has two other contract videos using arcane adaptation in one and conspiracy in the other

@jk6971 Жыл бұрын

LegendVD just did this if you're interested

@dm9910 Жыл бұрын

I think my version of this deck would play more Demonic Pacts and cut the Liliana's Contract and the janky demons. Getting to play 6-8 copies of offering-able cards feels like a major upgrade and they work great in multiples since you only need to be able to donate the first one

@matthewsanchez7953 Жыл бұрын

Yay! I love decks that pass the kitty!

@LadyMapi Жыл бұрын

Fable is an absurd card, but I'm OK with that because it's fundamentally an enabler. Sure, it gets jammed into every deck that can play it, but it usually helps your jank do crazy stuff instead of just winning by itself. Compare that to Urza's Saga, where yeah, sure, it can tutor up one of your sweet combo pieces... but you're probably just going to end up making two Constructs and beating down in 90% of the games where you draw it.

@Raknarroth Жыл бұрын

I run this in Standard with Archfiend and Fateful Handoff

@newhampshirenate Жыл бұрын

Title typo!

@Hoththefinalbattle Жыл бұрын

I swear that Seth and I must be on the same wave length...I was play testing around with Gleeful Smash, then the Gleeful Whacking video comes out... LITERALLY YESTERDAY I was building around harmless offering and Archfiend of the Dross and then this!!!

@androkguz Жыл бұрын

Special win or lose conditions should definitely have a different effect than "opponent's head explodes" It doesn't need to be too flashy, but it needs to be different.

@jrjamesson Жыл бұрын

I know it's sort of a combo deck, but feels too fair to be running wishclaw

@thedarkonegaming1 Жыл бұрын

Now that has some possession issues! in a manner of any willing force! loved this and the intro was just so cool!

@TheGreenLightningMRT Жыл бұрын

I love that the tools for this combo exist in Standard right now.

@breakingthewall2112 Жыл бұрын

I agree Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire is so much better than at first glance. Seems hard to get the card search trigger but the OP doesn't want to block and lose their good creature and chumping doesn't stop it. I have it as my Commander for a demon tribal deck and as a 4 of in my Lilliana's contract demon deck and it is sooo good. Especially as a Commander can tutor everything including demonic tutor lol and Runescape Demon

@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын

Every time I put it in a deck it overperforms. I guess I need to play it more often :)

@kokioen Жыл бұрын

"Fable might be a good card" - more news at eleven

@jameshayes-barber9340 Жыл бұрын

7:46 could have made a token to block with

@scottevil4531 Жыл бұрын

When I saw the card I knew you´d make something like this XDXD

@ConnorFesenmaier Жыл бұрын

This looks hilarious 🤣

@thecrazycapn Жыл бұрын

Crim was real high on Archfiend of the Dross during prerelease. I'm sad he doesn't see more play.

@HomeCookinMTG Жыл бұрын

It's because of the fact that fatal push is in older formats and there's too much life gain stalling going around in standard. spending your fourth turn tapping out for a creature that doesn't impact the board immediately is a death sentence in Historic/pioneer usually, and in standard if your opponent can chump it/live through all four attacks, then you're stuck having to kill your own demon, or lose to it.

@johannanish9749 Жыл бұрын

At least it's like the best rare to pull in draft, so there's that.

@strika234 Жыл бұрын

why not run fateful handoff? draw 4 seems better for an extra mana than harmless offering unless im missing something

@demiurge2501 Жыл бұрын

I don’t have fateful handoff memorized but if I remember correctly handoff doesn’t work with enchantments

@MrTJeffords Жыл бұрын

@@demiurge2501 Correct. But there is only one Demonic Pact so that isn't as much of a setback.

@cris5555 Жыл бұрын

You want to use the offerings to win the game most of the time, so drawing or not doesn't matter, that makes the harmless offering better as it cost 1 less

@MistaZiggy Жыл бұрын

@@cris5555 there are cases where you clone the archfiend and then donate it

@the_r4ts Жыл бұрын

Handoff works better for donating things that don’t instantly kill your opponent like if you need to wait a few turns those extra cards can help you get there.. but this deck doesn’t really have that issue plus it can’t deal with an opponent’s demon without outright killing it so it’s just better to go for the combo

@theornerytrilobite Жыл бұрын

I totally forgot Harmless Offering was on this client lmao. This is great. Also, Ammit Eternal is The Truth.

@ursulcx299 Жыл бұрын

Game 2 was like "And I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling cat and your little chariot too!"

@andrewnelms1420 Жыл бұрын

You know you can reflection on end step for an extra token next turn?

@domri4203 Жыл бұрын

I was trying this a few weeks ago. Hope it went better for you.

@jameshayes-barber9340 Жыл бұрын

What was that demon dialogue from?

@Spotifist Жыл бұрын

Oh man this is HOT ! Gotta make something similar, thanks for the video!

@MTGGoldfish Жыл бұрын

Good luck!

@pr0fess0rbadass Жыл бұрын

When jank can beat a top meta deck, you know it's a pretty healthy format.

@edgarpettijohn8215 Жыл бұрын

Crewing is an activated ability so pithing needle would shut down the chariot as well

@forgottenking3326 Жыл бұрын

i got a good historic/pioneer/modern/legacy vintage 2 card combo: vorinclex, monsterous raider- vraska betrayals sting.

@alaraplatt8104 Жыл бұрын

"ShawnaTapThatMTG" is one of the absolutely adorable co hosts of the youtube channel Tap That MTG

@xLegendaryPete Жыл бұрын

Wow , 2 videos in one day? We are spoiled

@Midnightv Жыл бұрын

I really think this is a try again type of situation because there were a few things that could have been done to mitigate some of those harsh match ups

@dementievatz Жыл бұрын

I tried to play Archfiend fairly in Pioneer a little, and I think the first time I got one down my opponent hit it with Heartless Act!!!

@cuddlequeen3225 7 ай бұрын

This is fricken hilarious.

@tiagogarcia4900 Жыл бұрын

What's the narration at the start?

@loz9324 Жыл бұрын

its from star wars episode 4

@PhetaFox Жыл бұрын

@@loz9324 def not lol

@PhetaFox Жыл бұрын

Just went and found it. I thought it was going to be a demon slayer intro monologue, but it's apparently a Lion of Judah sermon.

@loz9324 Жыл бұрын

@@PhetaFox yes but Darth Vader also says it

@PhetaFox Жыл бұрын

@Loz says what specifically?

@Nitestorm1985 Жыл бұрын

What about the 4 cc black offering that’s in ONE that’s offering 5-8 and I would concentrate more on removal and setup the offering plan with either pact and/ or demon. At least that’s how I have my version setup

@kuja130 Жыл бұрын

after running this deck in historic since the day all will be one dropped I've run into it a few times. just hit it with an ephemerate

@djumisaid Жыл бұрын

sweet... sweet, sweet

@charlesmartin4588 Жыл бұрын

you say no one's expecting a donated arch-fiend...welp, that kitty is outta the bag now!

@lukemorgan6003 Жыл бұрын

Now that Shadows over Innistrad Remastered is back in arena, I’m really hoping for some janky explorer decks. Maybe Offspring’s Revenge + Tree of Perdition?

@HomeCookinMTG Жыл бұрын

against that aura deck in game two, I think the line w/ fatal on sram should have been to thoughtseize and take all that glitters, then when he tries to load up sram on his turn, fatal push. Could have gotten rid of two auras and the creature that way.

@Kaalia0202 Жыл бұрын

You could call the deck "Pact City"

@JoshRudis Жыл бұрын

Virulent plague out of the sideboard for the tokens matchup would have been decent.

@Soulryu11 Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t you foretell at the end of your turn, so that dream devourers pump stays until the end of the following turn?

@bene5785 Жыл бұрын

How about Fateful Handoff?

@Crusina Жыл бұрын

suprised not even a single copy of fateful handoff.

@Kindaichi83 Жыл бұрын

Or, hear me out, you could play Archfiend of the Dross and then enchant metamorphic alteration onto an opponent’s creature to turn it into Archfiend without oil counters.

@Kindaichi83 Жыл бұрын

@@TheWorldsStage metamorphic alteration is an aura that turns enchanted creature into a copy of another creature. It doesn’t trigger any etb.

@kirbi200 Жыл бұрын

Cats tribal plz!!

@silverfoxbro4168 Жыл бұрын

Against the odds? More like against the dross am I right No but seriously, always diggin the janky fun lists 🤘

@TheMegaMagikarp Жыл бұрын

Cats better than demons? Seth, cats ARE demons. I own one, I know.

@cactuarnoob100 Жыл бұрын

TALiiiiiiS man MVP

@mistysowards7365 Жыл бұрын

This demon is actually good in modern btw...

@SublimeSublemon Жыл бұрын

If only reflections of kiki had an ability...

@MistaZiggy Жыл бұрын

No “fateful handoff” redundancy smh

@michaelking7391 Жыл бұрын

Demons, but they have harmless

@kamikazebanzai1005 Жыл бұрын

Demons but they*ve* harmless

@bjarkov12 Жыл бұрын

I intensely dislike the contract play crappy demons plan but offering dross is cool

@mazein90 Жыл бұрын

Rakdross

@person3176 Жыл бұрын

around 8:45 where you need a good name for the deck.. how about Archfiend's Heartless Offering

@mistysowards7365 Жыл бұрын

Their harmless

@merlebrown7664 Жыл бұрын

Your contents are really nice and there are so many online jobs that pays up to $3250 daily for posting contents like this on social media 🤓

@seifeir6951 Жыл бұрын

They've harmless what??

@colinthornton3806 Жыл бұрын

Bothers me way more than it probably should, but its been like weeks now so I feel like I have to point it out, there's no s in the middle of brotherhood's end