8 Reasons Why Motorcycle Clubs HATE Bikers!!

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We talked about 8 reasons why bikers hate motorcycle club members. a lot of outnumbering and forcing people to follow rules they didn't sign up for. Well now we reverse it and talk about 8 reasons why motorcycle clubs hate bikers

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@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
8 Reasons Why Bikers HATE Motorcycle Clubs👉kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9-jmbeBrp-UZZc.html&ab_channel=DemonsRow
@TOP-SECRETCLOWNBUSINESS
@TOP-SECRETCLOWNBUSINESS 2 ай бұрын
And who are you to tell anybody how to ride anything...y'all ride dicks.
@jacobfoster9185
@jacobfoster9185 2 ай бұрын
Motorcyclists in general cause a LOT of accidents damaging civilians vehicles and bodies. If no-one is near by I'll ignore them and won't pull them over but if a civilian is within a couple miles and the riders are speeding or doing anything reckless I'm all over their selfish Douche-bag selves !!! I've seen too many wives, moms, grandmothers, sons and daughters horrifically injured, killed, or having to pay THOUSANDS to fix their vehicles. Losing jobs because they lose their cars. Then to make it worse outlaws will threaten civilians for trying to get insurance involved etc. No honor. The outlaws have changed in the last 20 years. They used to have deep respect for civilians and families etc and I left them alone as did my fellow officers. Something has changed though. I don't see any respect for civilians or even eachother anymore. Now local angels and others are the same as ghetto gang members. It's...I know this is going to sound weird but honestly it's very sad. I know they've always trafficked drugs and whatever but they aren't forcing people to buy. They're going to get what they want no matter who is selling so we'd leave the clubs alone because if it's going to happen anyway then we'd prefer men with honor and respect for civilians and eachother. They used to understand that assaults etc is disruptive to their business earnings and they used to police eachother for rape and domestic violence child abuse. They used to have charity events..they were illegal but rarely..unjust? Not sure how to articulate that. These days we're seeing behavior that would have been SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY internally that's happening all the time. Whomsoever reads this I hope that you and those you care for are happy, healthy, and safe this new year. Semper Fidelis P.S Please forgive me for any misspellings words that are out of context or poor punctuation. I lost my hand in Afghanistan so now I dictate rather than type and the program is not perfect. Traveling the roads is a privilege NOT a right.
@kottekotte7024
@kottekotte7024 2 ай бұрын
For a Outlaw MC so much Rules. I give a shit of their fucking Rules, it's Not their Road, i Ride my Bike where i want, in my Speed and If you are to slow, Just get the fuck Out of my way. Wish you a good ride.
@brendanmarino5699
@brendanmarino5699 Ай бұрын
What's up, brother? I was a 1% for almost 10 years. It's just that when you're in a group as A MC club. No one just for respect. Should pass them for one because it could Cause an accident. Two when you're in a It's just disrespectful to pass them going back to number one and cause an accident.
@kottekotte7024
@kottekotte7024 Ай бұрын
I don't care about the "disrespectful" behavior of 1% of the population who, as the term "one-percenter" suggests, see themselves outside of society and the law. Sorry for hurting the feelings of outlaws. Drive carefully, as outlaws do, otherwise an accident may occur.
@jbolin75
@jbolin75 2 ай бұрын
I've been riding since I was 17. I'm 49 now. I have no problem with MC's, Groups, Organizations, etc, but it's not my thing. When I go ride, occasionally I'll ride with friends, but I like to ride alone. It's my throttle therapy time. I know how to ride in formation, but I also enjoy gliding across the road and cutting around it like it's butter. I don't do stupid stunts or anything, I just enjoy my space. I give the wave to anything on 2 or 3 wheels. You don't have to be a fellow Harley rider. I'll wave at foreign sports bikes, dirt bikes, mopeds, hell even people on bicycles because they may be a future motorcycle owner. My only problem is with anyone who looks down on someone else because they think they are better than them for one reason or another. You don't know anyone else's life or circumstance. You don't know their pain or the different trials and hells they've survived. If you think you are too good to talk to someone because they aren't in a club or they haven't earned the "status" you have, you really need to check your pride. I believe respect is earned individually between each person you encounter. I offer the same amount of starter respect to everyone, general human decency. Above and beyond that, gonna have to be earned. On the subject of wearing a cut when you aren't in a club, I don't wear one. I wear a jacket when the weather calls for it, otherwise just my shirt. I have a jacket that the sleeves zip out of, but it's just a plain jacket, no patches. I've been given patches, I just don't ever do anything with them. Just shove them in a drawer back home. I also don't go out of my way to try to irritate anyone. So if I went to an event and there was a 1% club there, I wouldn't be intentionally trying to push anyone's buttons. After watching videos like these my main concern would be if I did something unintentionally out of ignorance for club culture and someone got in my face over it. It's never happened to me, but I see videos where thing have happened and wonder how I would react in that situation. I don't really want to find out, but I would hope clubs would at least try to be understanding. I don't know man, I'm just the kind of guy who carries around a tire iron in my saddle bags to help a person change a tire on the side of the road if I see a person who needs help. I prefer to be that random nice biker you didn't expect. In the last year I've changed 5 car tires and pushed 3 broke down cars out of the road just because I was on a joy ride and saw that someone needed help.
@Bob-rd9vd
@Bob-rd9vd Ай бұрын
I've been riding since I was 16 and I'm 72 now. Same story as yours.
@ElvisOnAShark
@ElvisOnAShark Ай бұрын
The thing clubs need to understand is, you are the only one that cares about your patch. Just because it means something to you doesn’t mean it matters to me.
@johnpoole57
@johnpoole57 2 ай бұрын
Whenever I'm asked about being part of an MC or any organized riding group I always quote Groucho Marx..."I won't be part of any organization that would have me as a member"
@christophjohnson3777
@christophjohnson3777 2 ай бұрын
Grouch was a genius
@user-xf8nh1we7l
@user-xf8nh1we7l 2 ай бұрын
I walked up to an SAA in front of a bathroom with his arms crossed. Stood next to him and crossed my arms. He told me to leave and I said, "why this is the line for the bathroom right?" And he laughed and shook my hand
@christinelangley7272
@christinelangley7272 2 ай бұрын
That was good. 😂😂😂
@Jzay4516
@Jzay4516 2 ай бұрын
Those mfers are clowns. All motorcycle club guys are pussys
@haildagon
@haildagon 2 ай бұрын
What rights or authority gives him any right to dictate where people should be.
@dannymiller7187
@dannymiller7187 2 ай бұрын
@@haildagonI think it’s his club house.
@bennyrest9122
@bennyrest9122 Ай бұрын
The old brasco conversations
@user-vw4rv7em1k
@user-vw4rv7em1k 2 ай бұрын
I just started riding on the road in the last couple of years but I put 30 years worth of death metal patches on a jacket, not to try and make people think I’m a biker but to use up all these patches and because that’s who I am. Not out to impress anyone, just a metal head that wants to ride.
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
alot of people do that thats never a problem
@user-vw4rv7em1k
@user-vw4rv7em1k 2 ай бұрын
@@DemonsRow cheers man much appreciated!
@user-cv6rl2qy1g
@user-cv6rl2qy1g 2 ай бұрын
I'm getting MotorHead vibes. I don't have the jean jacket cutoff, but still have a few shirts tucked away. 😎🤘🤘🤘
@user-vw4rv7em1k
@user-vw4rv7em1k 2 ай бұрын
@@user-cv6rl2qy1g Nice man! Can’t beat the mighty Motörhead!
@eibbor171
@eibbor171 2 ай бұрын
I have a jacket that has the pink floyd hammers patch..the amount of times people came up to me thinking i was KKK or some shit is annoying worst part is it's the usual suspects karen and daren cause they dont listen they just wanna argue its like dealing with children. Anyway got approached by few guys from a MC lets call the MC "heavens demons" they asked about my patch on my arm cause from their POV when i pulled in to the gas station they thought I was wearing a rivals patch so when the group came over and asked about the patch i just turned a bit showed them it was the pink floyd hammers and we ended up just talking about music,concerts and how much of a twat justina trudeau is. Best convo i had in awhile with strangers where i didn't feel like i was obligated to say something like "beautiful day isn't ?" you know that type of bullshit convo that doesn't need to be had
@thomasusowski2155
@thomasusowski2155 2 ай бұрын
When I ride, it’s two fingers down to every person on two wheels. Even someone on a scooter, we’re all on two wheels to have fun and be safe. I’m 42 and I’ve been riding since I was 6 years old. Respect to everyone on a bike, and watch out for each other against dumbass car drivers
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Much respect
@kennethanway7979
@kennethanway7979 2 ай бұрын
Same here brother!
@kevindowell6003
@kevindowell6003 2 ай бұрын
Two fingers down for two wheels, three down for trikes
@CyberNut930
@CyberNut930 2 ай бұрын
I’m not saying this about all people who ride but what about the dumb ass bikers that put them selves in dangerous situations on the road then flip out on the car because they almost wrecked? I ran into this a few years ago. I went to get into the next lane so I checked my mirrors to make sure it was clear then started to get over. As I’m half way over this dude on a crotch rocket comes whipping around a car a few lengths back and has to nearly lock it up to not hit me. He starts cussing me out like he wasn’t the one who put him self in that situation. I have respect for the safety of those on two wheels but I lose all respect for the ones who feel entitled to ride like idiots then flip out when they put them selves in bad situations.
@gofoats
@gofoats 2 ай бұрын
I used to run lights for the house band at a MC/Biker bar in TX, they had 2 rules. No cuts, and no weapons. Wait rule #3, don't fuck with the band. This place was sacred ground where any MC could go to and have a good time. The only time I saw shit go south was a dude we all knew had too much nose candy and started shit. Owner called the cops (yeah, it was understood the law could come in); dude would not leave, and they started scrapping. Dude had an artificial leg and the cops ended up pulling it off and beating him with it just so they could cuff him. One of the funnies things I ever saw being associated with MCs.
@xJRxinated
@xJRxinated 2 ай бұрын
I'm a sport bike rider. Most club guys are super chill and will give you a wave or a heads up. It's the cos play for dad's "bikers" who put on there "tough guy" outfit on the weekends and think they are outlaws who are dicks. I think we all universally hate those dudes.
@ashsherman
@ashsherman 2 ай бұрын
Haha, YESSS!
@shkumpvatican3877
@shkumpvatican3877 2 ай бұрын
I don't hate anybody.......
@choptop1989
@choptop1989 2 ай бұрын
Harley riders 😂 South Park had an episode about this
@guins99
@guins99 2 ай бұрын
I know your type. You don’t like HD riders, you think sports bikes are cool and Harley’s are trash, you don’t like guys in Harley’s cause you resent them. That’s cool, we don’t respect you, you ride a toy, you speed, stunt, put others at risk. I don’t wave to guys like you cause I don’t respect you, I definitely don’t consider you a biker. Cope harder…
@wadepenn
@wadepenn 2 ай бұрын
Tough until they see fresh cut grass on the road...
@waltjefferis552
@waltjefferis552 2 ай бұрын
As a retired police officer I’ve come across several outlaws on duty. I treated them as I would wanted to be treated . Respect isn’t a sign of weakness, its a sign of wisdom
@Robert-xs2mv
@Robert-xs2mv Ай бұрын
Sadly the majority of police officers do not hold such attitude.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 2 ай бұрын
I have never watched Sons of Anarchy or any show about Clubs. I’m not a biker culture expert so I keep my mouth shut and my eyes open.
@pyromaestro
@pyromaestro 2 ай бұрын
SOA & the newer spin off show Mayans are both well worth watching if you enjoy bikes or bike culture, enjoy action & good story telling check em out. People just shouldn't take things on TV literally or draw parallels to real life. 🙌🎆
@cypsolit
@cypsolit 2 ай бұрын
Watch the movie it’s really a good show it’s about family 10/10 for that movie 💯💯
@uploadth1s
@uploadth1s 2 ай бұрын
Soap operas, show and clubs.
@victorribeiro2431
@victorribeiro2431 Ай бұрын
​@@pyromaestro not only MC culture but gang banging too
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 2 ай бұрын
I’m a solo rider and I give them I give clubs their own space. Respect must go both ways.
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
i agree
@Formulabird88
@Formulabird88 2 ай бұрын
Yes!
@justcruise241
@justcruise241 2 ай бұрын
Love his stuff. He's loves his bike, club and life style, and we love him for that. However he also understands and embraces both sides of an argument. Making points for both sides, no bias. This is a man worth respect. Like motorcycling with a Buddhist twist.
@lenn675
@lenn675 2 ай бұрын
A few yrs ago my uncle invited me to hang out with him at his club. My uncle told me if anyone ever invited you to a club that you are not part of always bring a gift for the prez. Its a matter of respect, never show up empty handed. I think this would be a topic to touch on. What do to and not do if you are ever invited to attend a family members club house.
@yandman26
@yandman26 2 ай бұрын
Surely your family member would tell you.
@Leo-pg6lt
@Leo-pg6lt 2 ай бұрын
First and only club I went to I had just got into a fight at the bar and somebone thought it was a good idea to retreat to an old shop in the woods which happened to be a mc club….i show up with a my friends drunk shirt almost ripped off and blood everywhere….they were actually pretty cool
@Ten_Mil_Will
@Ten_Mil_Will 2 ай бұрын
This was my first thought, when he mentioned the bottle of liquor but.... I'm assuming he meant it was open and the guy was drinking it. Still sealed and offered as a donation, to the bar, seems like it would be a respectful gesture. I've been in environments where you ALWAYS bring a token of gratitude to the "boss".
@Nohandlethankyou1
@Nohandlethankyou1 2 ай бұрын
My mother told me to always bring a gift to the house owner we visit.
@cootriley6
@cootriley6 2 ай бұрын
614K Subscribers- 1 Million next. Way to go Sose!
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
i appreciate you coot
@kennethanway7979
@kennethanway7979 2 ай бұрын
Many years ago, i got stuck behind a MC...i was on a honda 350...i hated going 45 mph, but I think they were just having fun with me! After a while, they all zoomed off!
@CK4RC
@CK4RC 2 ай бұрын
Love these videos man. Super informative and solid insight into a culture a lot of people aren't aware of/don't understand. I'm a weekend warrior myself. Not trying to pretend to be anything else - I just like riding whenever I get a chance. Thanks for putting these out!
@scott8630
@scott8630 2 ай бұрын
I brought my one friend to the clubhouse. He actually asked a clubber if his 1% tattoo was the kind of milk he liked.😂
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
lol
@Anomalous_Phenomenon
@Anomalous_Phenomenon 2 ай бұрын
“Yo, ask Skim how he got his nickname.”
@icemuppet361
@icemuppet361 2 ай бұрын
if homeboy was actually that ignorant then this is a true win for everyone. you cant get mad at that... I would say im working on my lucky charms next.
@scott8630
@scott8630 2 ай бұрын
@icemuppet361 yah he was pretty ignorant and hes lucky..it was just me, him, and the 1%er.. I quickly explained what it meant.. I honestly think the 1 percenter being the Sgt at Arms and a was known for handing out a beating might have done something like a slap up the head if his brothers and other civilians were there.
@ehvway
@ehvway 2 ай бұрын
😂​@@Anomalous_Phenomenon
@MrDarkNutz
@MrDarkNutz 2 ай бұрын
im not even a rider but when greeted by co workers i always take off my gloves.. nobody ever taught me, i just always thought it was a sign of respect.. big on respect
@nero_palmire
@nero_palmire Ай бұрын
In my country it's a basic good manners to take off your glove before a handshake.
@spaceman83
@spaceman83 2 ай бұрын
We all ride. All should show respect to each other
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
truth
@RomanZ-zy1ef
@RomanZ-zy1ef 2 ай бұрын
Until we see annoying Bikers not mention Harley Riders too those kind of people make the Biker community look horrible and because of them we too get attacked or worse.
@fix-it-alljohn9837
@fix-it-alljohn9837 2 ай бұрын
I’ve run into club members here and there. I give them there space and I respect there space and never had an issue. Love your channel
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate you
@bryanelder5636
@bryanelder5636 2 ай бұрын
I can tell you about a situation in Virginia. The club wasn't 1% percenters, Their CMA (Christian Motorcycle Association) but they ride in formation like any club. Some fool on a crotch rocket tried to pass the entire group, coming down a mountain. He dumped it in front of the whole pack. 12 bikes wrecked and 9 people got hurt. All because of one dumbass.
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
nightmare smh
@user-vw4rv7em1k
@user-vw4rv7em1k 2 ай бұрын
That’s fcked, only takes one dckhead.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 2 ай бұрын
Smh...That's trash and just Selfish.
@rickyjackson197
@rickyjackson197 2 ай бұрын
Some people don't need to be on a motorcycle...period
@thelordbart
@thelordbart Ай бұрын
I want to say thank you for your videos. I am mostly an ADV rider. Lots of off road on my big BMW. One day (about a week ago) hour E of Albuquerque on I40 a whole bunch of Mongols (patched) rolled up, a dude (I assume a Jr member) crowds me out, at first I'm WTF?, then I see their patches, remember YOUR vids, and think "no sweat" and follow the "navigational cues", they eventually roar past (about 30 or so), and the guy "guiding me" gave me a wave and took off after. So, me, a dirty ADV guy on a euro fart machine (yeah I know what the Boxster sounds like heh)... THANK YOU, your vid gave me info I never woulda had otherwise and let me know the score before the event even happened on the road. All was and is good :)
@joebeez1287
@joebeez1287 2 ай бұрын
Sons of Anarchy is not the topic to talk about... hahaha...That was hilarious
@loganlovescarsandmotorcycles
@loganlovescarsandmotorcycles 2 ай бұрын
Most if not all of the motorcycle events here on the island are club run events or have a big club presence. It's usually pretty chill.
@DJDillyGent
@DJDillyGent 2 ай бұрын
Im from Florida and when i used to slide that way we always used guys who where eyes open to provide spots in the line but they give you space. But when i got on the car set and the first time the P looked at me said so you promise to protect my club and he handed the keys over it change my life 13 and 20 cars was average not to mention riding tail to separate the tag alongs or the officers of the next club or chapter depending on how deep the ranks are, the coordination. It's all about respect on any set but on 2s good logistics means safety
@MaddBaggins
@MaddBaggins 2 ай бұрын
I always appreciate your videos. I watch often. I wear a vest with patches but all my patches are National Parks I've been to and various geek type patches. Then I have my state flag patch and a Triumph patch. No rockers or anything that remotely looks like MC stuff. I've never had any one from an MC give me trouble over it. I have been invited to an MC clubhouse (not 1% but a good size local MC) but I wasn't able to make it. I made my apologies to the member that invited me. I could never prospect though, I'm older and theres no way I'm putting myself thru some bullshit to patch. I don't like to ride in groups either and I stay away from most of the young sport bike crowd. Mostly I just ride to go hit some twisties or take the back highways to a breakfast destination, stuff like that. I don't generally ride around town. Thanks for your content.
@fidellytle5838
@fidellytle5838 2 ай бұрын
I retired US Navy 20 years. Served on 4 Submarines. It took me almost 1 year to earn my Dolphins. Submarine Qualification. I hate it when I see some Yahoo wearing a Military Hat of any branch that never served. When questioned They say "I bought it at the gas station or Flea Market." So why are you profiling as thou you served? 😮😯😲
@lukewaters9435
@lukewaters9435 2 ай бұрын
Cause they want to steal the valor that the actual veterans earned
@M45T3R_B8ER
@M45T3R_B8ER 2 ай бұрын
​@@lukewaters9435meanwhile, most of us vets don't advertise it at all. I don't like going out in public and showing what I've done, where I've been, etc. It just brings unwanted attention for me personally. I don't even like stopping at the grocery store or gas station real quick if I'm in uniform on my way home from work... I save the military stories for my family and close friends. Outside of that circle, low profile.
@luckkibehemoth6626
@luckkibehemoth6626 2 ай бұрын
Did you piss of the A-gang chief on your boat or something? Why did it take almost a year to get qualified?
@Robert-xs2mv
@Robert-xs2mv Ай бұрын
@@luckkibehemoth6626if you have to ask that question you are to stupid to understand!
@mr.funkalicioussplendiferous
@mr.funkalicioussplendiferous Күн бұрын
​@@M45T3R_B8ER I know plenty of veterans (myself included) who are proud of our service. I am a 2 war combat veteran, and will sport my military patches on my vest,like my POW/MIA, rate badge (yes, I was in the Navy), disabled veteran patch (or more correctly, my Dysfunctional Veteran patch), etc. I earned those. I am not about to let anyone tell me I cannot be proud of my service. Also, to your point about most veterans NOT wearing military stuff, have you ever been to the VA? How about the VFW? American Legion? Or just out in public? I see plenty of guys wearing hats, shirts, and for bikers, patches on our vests. Just because you don't, it doesn't mean that I can't. Before you try and say anything about the Navy and combat, I was Combat Camera and intel, my rate was PH2 (Photographer's Mate 2nd Class).
@terischannel
@terischannel Ай бұрын
This is my first video of yours to see. I came in with the wrong idea of what this was going to be based on the title. Great video. I'm glad to find your channel.
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Preciousmiller1
@Preciousmiller1 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing.👍 Enjoy your day 💖
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
appreciate you precious
@Preciousmiller1
@Preciousmiller1 2 ай бұрын
@@DemonsRow 🙏🌹
@TommyWheeler316
@TommyWheeler316 2 ай бұрын
Been watching your videos and shorts for a couple months from the TV but I can't share or comment from there. I've seen a few that I'll share, more people need to see your content. Especially in Dub-K
@SmoothJohnson
@SmoothJohnson 2 ай бұрын
I ride every day in the north. I commute on ice and snow all winter. These guys look at me with their jaws dropped from their cars and trucks all winter, then as soon as the weather gets nice, they look at me like I’m less than them because I’m not riding a $30k bagger and trying to act like a tough guy.
@peted2770
@peted2770 2 ай бұрын
This is the absolute truth. Every year, I do a poker run in May or early June, and those guys are out in force. I laugh out loud as they peacock around and then duck walk their bikes or drag their feet for 20 yards.
@Judge_DreddR6
@Judge_DreddR6 Ай бұрын
As a police officer that rides, I aim to understand the protocol and give that respect. Love your videos and keep doing what you do Sose
@Gabriel-Kazu
@Gabriel-Kazu 2 ай бұрын
So everything Im hearing is MC's are no different than street gangs. Treat them the same as a thug street gang. Copy that. o7
@MrMadmazz
@MrMadmazz 2 ай бұрын
Define street gang? I can name over 1k street thugs on the east coast of Aus that are better people then the high rollers I work with from time to time..
@Formulabird88
@Formulabird88 2 ай бұрын
Congrats on winning the most ignorant comment of the year.
@Gabriel-Kazu
@Gabriel-Kazu 2 ай бұрын
@Formulabird88 looks like we found another one boys! 2wheel Thuggalishous clown posse right?
@BobbyBoccalino
@BobbyBoccalino 2 ай бұрын
they are very different- how often do you see blood members do toy drives for kids on christmas or fundraiser for veterans, or work security for events? you are a fucking idiot.
@lindongreen8922
@lindongreen8922 2 ай бұрын
Let me get this straight.. I'm on my own riding and two streams of hogs are riding below the limit and they get pissed if I pass them? That's just pathetic.
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 2 ай бұрын
Good topics that was well covered by the Sose!
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@wongfou
@wongfou 2 ай бұрын
Respect is key and knowing the proper way to show it. Much Love #Ghostin
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Well said #ghostin
@veronikaquick6738
@veronikaquick6738 2 ай бұрын
Riding pillion on the back of husbands Dyna doing 90+ mph on a not busy motorway somewhere in eastern Europe in a group and being passed by one guy doing a wheelie well over 100+ mph - the guy was in his 60`s. Contrary to some of the comments here, it was bloody impressive. Husband was impressed and he`s a seasoned Biker. Sometimes you ride the road, sometimes you ride the bike and sometimes you just ride. Good vid.
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate you
@CTuna-uo3pq
@CTuna-uo3pq 26 күн бұрын
Didn't MCs grow from ww2 military vets that got together to blow off steam? A lot of the edict, ethics and organization were learned in the service. Respect is earned.
@bigtyme2055
@bigtyme2055 2 ай бұрын
Great content again Ghost
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@user-yo7sb7sw8m
@user-yo7sb7sw8m 2 ай бұрын
First time in upstate New York I watched a group of at least 200-300 angels all so close to each other that they could touch everyone next to them. Crazy
@kentharding5874
@kentharding5874 2 ай бұрын
I agree with what your saying here. It's about respect and acceptance of each others choices. I am a 25 yr motorcycle tech, Japanese bikes. I have met all types and the people you describe as fake bikers really bother me too. If you want to look like a 1% then you should put in the work and be a 1%, but to be fake is just stupid. I worked at a Yamaha dealership for 20 yrs, 3 doors up the road was a Club shop, we became good friends over the years. I always respected their ways and values, they reciprocated the same. Next to that shop was a club for a non 1% group, I showed them the same respect and they did as well. One morning on the way into work, I was riding my sport bike. A couple of members came up on me very fast, just as I was changing lanes, nearly cut them off. I followed them to the club house, got of my bike, took off my lid and apologized to them. Offered anything I could do to make it right. No, you just did, thank you. Later in the day the tech for the 1% shop came down and told me that the boss wanted a word. I went and he commended my honesty and that the other club appreciated it as well. Stand up guy, you did the right thing. That is how respect is earned and given. I hope this helps someone else understand what respect means.
@erickdorsey556
@erickdorsey556 2 ай бұрын
Great video, if people would just listen to your advice. I'm a sport bike rider at 57 I don't do that stupid stuff, grew out of the 30 years ago. I grew up with club members, best jokes I ever herd. Much respect.
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Much respect
@micktrinus
@micktrinus 2 ай бұрын
The way I try to live my life is to not intentionally disrespect anyone, but at the same time, I will not follow asinine rules of a group or lifestyle that I am not a part of. Then again, I don't hang out in bars or clubs anyway, so it shouldn't be an issue.
@BulldogElf1
@BulldogElf1 2 ай бұрын
As to your first point I just did the Chicano Pride run in Denver. I rode from up north in a group and one guy on a sports bike weaving in and out of the pack and just generally being unsafe. So I get that.
@RoadCaptainEntertain
@RoadCaptainEntertain 2 ай бұрын
My jacket has a few patches I earned but mostly it is covered in run pins. So many so that there is no room for any more, a lot of run pins are in a jewelry box. Just no place left on the jacket to put them on.
@ricanryker6441
@ricanryker6441 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. I ride but respect your laws too, not in a group so I give you guys all the room in the world when I see ya coming, to each there own
@allencutcher6034
@allencutcher6034 2 ай бұрын
#GHOSTIN , Good info as always . Great show .
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Much appreciated
@superayoung
@superayoung 2 ай бұрын
This is dope channel 🤙🏼
@2bstiff584
@2bstiff584 2 ай бұрын
I not in a club but it pisses me off when others call a MC a gang I am a loner but I show the respect to any one who rides or in MC my vest has nothing on it I do not pass a group a MC on the road and I never had any problems because I do my research or I learn things from people like Demons Row and others
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
i appreciate you
@bobbywalter5320
@bobbywalter5320 2 ай бұрын
We appreciate you ​@@DemonsRow
@curtisclaire4341
@curtisclaire4341 2 ай бұрын
You sound like a 😺
@bayouboys2852
@bayouboys2852 2 ай бұрын
Where I come from all the mc has a few stunt riders in a night ride and they leave there vets at home bc it goes against there rules in the MC so this is the reason why I don’t like MC bc they are hypocrites and they say fuck the police but I see them talking to the police.
@Formulabird88
@Formulabird88 2 ай бұрын
@@bayouboys2852 Pretty bold calling MCs hypocrites. Until you know (if that ever happens) what every one of them are about you need to watch who you say that to. Not all clubs are the same and have different ideologies.
@richardbeckmann6720
@richardbeckmann6720 2 ай бұрын
In Chicago I always got along cool with the Outlaws because A friend of mine worked at 1 of their tattoo shops. And a friend of mine's father was good friends with the V.P and he knew me. Also a couple of high-school buddies also became members. It's been my experience.It's one member of a club bout trip for you and says you're cool. Then you're cool with everyone in the club.As long as you shall respect and they will respect you back..
@CaseyDJones-cv2xo
@CaseyDJones-cv2xo 2 ай бұрын
MC Vest patches are like military medals. Each representing a trial overcome each earned through loyalty, blood, sweat and tears.
@chriswalshe499
@chriswalshe499 2 ай бұрын
As someone who doesn't ride but is a muscle car freak, mate, I gotta say that was a very fair, well spoken, intelligent piece. I'm with you in not sweating the small stuff. I DO get being offended with the try-hard, store bought, patch thing. But you/we know they ain't real- weren't earned- and are therefore meaningless. Sometimes ya gotta pick ya battles. I just think Life is hard enough- the less conflict and more fun we can all have, the better I think. Well said mate. Peace.🇳🇿
@catshavesouls
@catshavesouls 2 ай бұрын
In a certain city, I was driving back from my brother's wedding. I was in a rented Aveo, tiny car. About 5 sportbike riders started stunting around me with their rides. Everybody's got neon lights shining down, standing on their bikes, doin' wheelies and riding past me, seemed like 160mph. This was also after 2am. I was really nervous and didn't feel safe at ALL. I WAS strapped, but their behavior was extreme, dangerous, and exactly like what you'd see bad guys act like in the movies before they attacked someone. Terrible experience. I have NEVER felt that way around Outlaws. Exactly the opposite. THEY'RE the good guys.
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Yea thats crazy
@LMCorvinus
@LMCorvinus 2 ай бұрын
because they're doing actual illegal shit and don't draw attention to themselves doing dumb nonsense like that in public
@NipponNostalgicTV
@NipponNostalgicTV 2 ай бұрын
😅
@thedragonsoul9194
@thedragonsoul9194 2 ай бұрын
My cat braver than you
@MrKrwillis72
@MrKrwillis72 2 ай бұрын
I remarked on Sose's post a while back about passing an MC on the highway, but I feel like my response is worth repeating here. I was once on a divided 4 lane & it started to hail so I blew by my local 1% club because I was running for an over pass to take shelter. Normally I wouldn't have done that, but I had my 10 year old nephew with me so he's priority number one right? Anyway, these cats stop under the same over pass & I tell the kid..... I don't think they'll beat my ass too bad since you're with me. Instead, these cats compliment me on my shitty little metric bobber & praise my nephew for being able to ride the fender for 50 miles! Mc's are WAY cooler than those sport bike dudes doing wheelies down the highway!
@AustinDay-vz3eo
@AustinDay-vz3eo 2 ай бұрын
Hey sos the ghost my name is Austin I watch a lot of your videos because I'm a newer rider and iv been learning about biker education I have been around and I show my respect to every mc or non mc clubs because they do go through hell to earn those patches and they should not just be allowed to be worn by anybody on the road if you show the proper respect and just be yourself the biker world is really amazing but if you go looking to be hard or just a showoff someone will show you just how big you really are just be cool ride and have fun guys
@chuniquepaceno470
@chuniquepaceno470 29 күн бұрын
As a retired military guy who is aware of the 'stolen valor' issue when it comes to people pretending to have been in the military who weren't I see interesting parallels with patch-wearers who don't earn them. I'll be sure not to clutter my riding jacket with any patches.
@frankmorris2603
@frankmorris2603 2 ай бұрын
We don't get these biker types in Australian cities generally speaking but in this scenario i definitely side with the organised group. The crazy stunting riders are putting all others at risk.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👌👌
@Coach.JohnnyCage
@Coach.JohnnyCage 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. I live in a place I can take my craziness out bush, so I can’t really comment on this kind of rivalry.
@christinelangley7272
@christinelangley7272 2 ай бұрын
Yeah this must be an American thing because l have been riding since '75 and l have never seen anything like they're saying go down. I ride in a SMC, we have patches and badges from runs and rallies we have been on/too, my vest is full.
@andrewramsdale
@andrewramsdale 2 ай бұрын
@@christinelangley7272he’s more meaning club patches when he is talking about patches I believe if u have any patches that are band/military,ride events there’s no problem
@p.thomas-el7529
@p.thomas-el7529 2 ай бұрын
Both videos were very informative for the community as a whole
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate you
@SS-pq3lc
@SS-pq3lc 2 ай бұрын
I used to ride a 75 Electra glide, no vest or patches. Never had a problem.
@jeffreymissal
@jeffreymissal 2 ай бұрын
1) Excusing their command of the roadway due to their MC's "safety" is a cop out. They view you passing them as a sign of disrespect...yet its them camped out in the left lane that's causing the disrespect. Keeping people from passing is a completely different thing than protecting your peeps from stunting asshats. 2) Patches don't make the man...if you get butt-hurt over "old Joe" wearing his HOG or SOA paraphernalia, that's on you. If they aren't wearing YOUR clubs patch, then its none of your business. 3) There's no "heart" involved in trying to fit into a click. Them's high school games. 4) One has to admit that there ARE a LOT of clean "club" patches out there.... 5) Who cares about posers? As long as they aren't wearing YOUR club's patches, who cares. 6) Its a fucking TV show. Again, who cares. 7) THIS is the root of it. Clubs hate bikers because non-club members live by their OWN rules, not THEIRS....they don't conform. 8) Most modern cops aren't police anymore; they are simply the enforcement are of a controlling nanny state. Nothing more....so I can relate to this one.
@christophjohnson3777
@christophjohnson3777 2 ай бұрын
The passing thing is what tears me up. Hasn't come up in my life, but i see videos. I never see the mc blocking cagers from passing though. 🤔
@Ridingon3TN
@Ridingon3TN 2 ай бұрын
good video once again. granted its only fair to let both sides have their say for sure when it comes down to things to possibly help bridge the gap of understanding somewhat for those that are truly interested. For me I didn't grow up entirely around the biker scene but was around it enough and taught enough about it by my uncle to not be scared of it like the rest of my family would like to have us younger boys scared of it. show respect until there's a reason not to no matter who a person is. Just like clubs have their reasons for what they do, and most will give and show respect as long as you show them the same respect back.
@harleyhawk7959
@harleyhawk7959 2 ай бұрын
had a patched 1% guy pass me from a light then move over back in front of me and slow down below the posted speed. I pass him raise my wtf arm, he then turns into a driveway less than a block down the road.
@amq474
@amq474 2 ай бұрын
I'm in a HOG riding group , no problems with local MCs, sometime I see MCs guys looking our front patch util the they see our back Harley HOG Rocker patches . Only patch I was asked for was the HOG Life Member for a PAGAN MC member , but no issues after the explanation and we finish drinking beer together
@dannydagerous
@dannydagerous 2 ай бұрын
yo the SOA, i got my favorite bike cheap cause some kid thought he could be a bike because he watched SOA; bought it and wrecked it the same hour,ended up in the hospital for 9 months. so
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
So it worked itself out lol
@dannydagerous
@dannydagerous 2 ай бұрын
@@DemonsRow haha
@CanOwhuppass
@CanOwhuppass 2 ай бұрын
Glad you did this video; people should be able to see both perspectives. Really pisses me off when i hear the whole cosplay thing. I have very good friends who do actual cosplay events, go to childrens hospitals, visit terminally ill children & often the local 1% club is there as well fundraising & just supporting. Another quality video, MLH&R from ireland 🇮🇪
@robertperry5272
@robertperry5272 2 ай бұрын
I’ve never had a problem with MC’s I’ve always just showed respect for them They’ve always been respectful to me as well as a Marine Corps Veteran I understand structure
@russellthompson3486
@russellthompson3486 2 ай бұрын
I’m just an old scooter bum, but these quad/trike/dirt off road machines. They can use the abandoned malls or factory parking lots
@forrestroush
@forrestroush 2 ай бұрын
52 years old....my pops always rode and i grew up with MC's ....he never patched in and was respected cuz he was an OG rip ART
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Rip
@onahu88
@onahu88 2 ай бұрын
That memory will now live in there rent free for both of them 👏👏👏, more of this and less of them sinking their heads into a tablet
@BobbyBoccalino
@BobbyBoccalino 2 ай бұрын
i was riding in a pack of 70-80 bikes and a car swerved- i went down at abt 80mph- and the dominoes fell- it happens fast and there is no stopping it.
@dw6104
@dw6104 5 күн бұрын
Re: "not a real biker" brotherhood doesn't/shouldn't mean supporting members who commit crimes and use club membership to demand silence. Nor should clubs demand dues that are so high that members feel obligated to get into criminal activity to be able to stay current.
@billyfinch7341
@billyfinch7341 Ай бұрын
As club member, you are 100% correct on all of the things you mentioned
@jamesheath5825
@jamesheath5825 2 ай бұрын
I have been riding over 55 years been in a club i have more miles getting lost than most do on purpose i don't consider myself a biker because i don't want to be lumped in with what motorcycling turned into i consider myself a motorcycle enthusiast FJB
@seandrake7534
@seandrake7534 2 ай бұрын
Fjb
@beachdaddy5588
@beachdaddy5588 2 ай бұрын
Fjb
@HowIDoItFaM
@HowIDoItFaM 2 ай бұрын
Down south. There are alot of spots, parties, trail rides, and strip clubs that are byob.
@HELLCAT-46
@HELLCAT-46 2 ай бұрын
Love your New video Keep it up your Awesome😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@matthines5150
@matthines5150 2 ай бұрын
As a middle aged sport touring nerd I find all of this pretty amusing. I’ll say this, the host is extremely even headed and rational and the behavior I see with many MCs and bikers acting out is unfortunately more what I think of as the norm. For me, I’m just all about the ride, not culture - but it’s cool for people to do their thing as long as they’re not messing with each other. I do get annoyed that so many people don’t wave now, especially MC/HD types. Back in the 90s everyone waved - because as RIDERS we knew everyone else was out to get us, and there was a solidarity in it. Also, we always stopped to offer help to any rider who was broken down or needed help. I know nothing of being in a club, it seems like a whole different thing - but it’d be cool if everyone didn’t have such an attitude toward each other. But again, this host seems like a cool dude. See you on the roads keep the dirty side down. ✌️
@paulthompson8642
@paulthompson8642 2 ай бұрын
18wheeling ghostin thumbs up 👍
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
much respect my brother youve been roccin with me for a long time i appreciate you
@robertsmith908
@robertsmith908 2 ай бұрын
I don’t own a motorcycle, am former LE, and will never be a 1%er. I still love your content.
@warwagen4530
@warwagen4530 2 ай бұрын
The arguing with bots is so true I wish people would look at that. AI is a pain in the ass for public conversations.
@mickey-eq5vw
@mickey-eq5vw 2 ай бұрын
no hate here in philly like ya say just happy to be alive and sittin on two's..riding threw these streets I feel more comfortable when i see clubs like cool im not the only boul riding a harley threw northphilly
@richardrodriguez2120
@richardrodriguez2120 2 ай бұрын
Even though our group isn’t an MC we still must follow protocol whenever we run into MCs and there are quite a few here including a few 1%ers. So we do watch our ps and qs and its all good ✌️
@lawrencesherman8822
@lawrencesherman8822 21 күн бұрын
I personally don’t want to be in an MC for multiple reasons but I have a vest that I like to wear and I have patches all over it. Mine are of where I have been, different states and countries. I also have some on the front of the model of bikes I own. I don’t at all do it to “look like I am in an MC”. I do it because I like it and wanted it for memorial purposes. I ride all year and all over so if I am not a “real biker” then so be it. It definitely won’t stop me from doing what I love.
@oneeyegaming_yt
@oneeyegaming_yt Ай бұрын
man i have been to new york city one time and it's crazy he right there is no where for them to ride but no way i would try the stuff they are doing to many cars, trucks and people driving there is insane they drive crazy there
@abarnes0330
@abarnes0330 2 ай бұрын
I'd love to be in a MC ...But, I have too much to lose (career, family, freedom) for some BS. My high school GF's dad was a Prez of SunDowners MC. He told me from the jump "Don't get involved in this life." And he told me several stories of work that he had to put in..I respect those that patched, but, I respect his words MORE!
@acechasombre5478
@acechasombre5478 Ай бұрын
been riding since i was a kid all kinds of rice burners and a bmw but now own 2 harleys, i wear leather but don’t do any patch stuff some of us ain’t in a club cause we were never approached
@OkieOn2Wheels
@OkieOn2Wheels 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video as well. There’s always two sides to a story.
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Yea i always like to show both sides
@AustinDay-vz3eo
@AustinDay-vz3eo 2 ай бұрын
There is always a time and place to have fun and showoff just not when it puts others in harms way
@Lukas.Chludzinski
@Lukas.Chludzinski 2 ай бұрын
It pisses me off when I’m out ridding usually solo and these groups of guys on street illegal dirt bikes quads and who knows else come by me so close I could touch them, pulling wheelies and swerving all around. I have no interest in dying because of their antics. I don’t mine it until I’m affected, even to the point that the cops bother me because I’m going the speed limit and stopping when the cops show up.
@b.d.sonstrucking1915
@b.d.sonstrucking1915 2 ай бұрын
Me and my Ole lady ride. When we have time. Coming from Troy, NY. If I were to join a club, you know which one it would be ghost. But I'm an OTR owner operator. Own a Kenworth. Lot of overhead.
@kynever7865
@kynever7865 2 ай бұрын
I've seen those bike, domino effects happen. Never motorbikes though. Just regular, old, pedal bikes and it's always hilarious!
@timfrederick9305
@timfrederick9305 2 ай бұрын
I ain’t in a club but have been invited to a party are visited on open house and always try to learn the protocols and hopefully know someone in the club or an associate so I don’t come off as disrespectful cause I’m in their house basically..Plus I was questioned a time or two which I left and didn’t come back
@rudybarreras5606
@rudybarreras5606 22 күн бұрын
What's up Ghost , I may look like I'm in an MC but I'm not , I grew up in South Phoenix in early 90's and my style is gangster style clothes wearing black and Azteca shirts and bandanas, I'd hate to get misunderstood cuz I ride solo and hold my own
@richardbeckmann6720
@richardbeckmann6720 2 ай бұрын
Will you consider doing a 10 reasons video on what reasons you think Harley Davidson sales are declining?
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
Great idea
@keithnolan830
@keithnolan830 2 ай бұрын
This is why i ride solo A beast of no nation I hate politics and the fact its now evident in every facet of life , even chewing up tarmac
@pyramidsinegypt
@pyramidsinegypt Ай бұрын
Looking at these things through the lens of psychology - aren't most of these things not just signs of poor self-esteem? If you get angry at someone wearing patches that you worked hard for; how does that person diminish the effort you put into getting yours? How does it affect you in any way, shape or form? If you get angry at someone calls you a cosplayer online... how confident in your identity are you really? If you scoff at someone who is perfectly happy doing his thing without being in a club, aren't you just jealous of them for, in a way, being more free than you are?
@williamohrt554
@williamohrt554 2 ай бұрын
I am a HOG member. We are motorcycle enthusiasts but tend to be between 55 and 80. We focus on motorcycle safety, and we are never looking for trouble. However, we encourage "Ride Warrior" theme patches that are pictures of, say, Bridges, Beaches, Harley Davidson motorcycle dealerships, etc. These patches are then sown onto our vests; however, they look nothing like "Biker MC" patches. In this case, are such patches also what you described as something that pisses off MC members?
@tex9280
@tex9280 2 ай бұрын
#ghostin Big G'day Sose from Down Under 🇦🇺 May all your days be Harley days 💪🖤🧡🖤🧡🖤💪 Safe travels 🙏♥️🐾🐾🇦🇺
@DemonsRow
@DemonsRow 2 ай бұрын
G day salute G
@distancejunkiemonkey4491
@distancejunkiemonkey4491 2 ай бұрын
Good information! Ret law enforcement motor officer, my motorcycle is my primary transportation, rain or shine. i don't like "bikers" either. Always doing weird lame crap on their bikes. Riding slow, cant hold their line, wearing MC wannabe stuff, walking around scowling at folks, bitching about being confronted by MC's for trying to pass,the list goes on. I'm obviously on the opposite side of the line from MC's. However i always respected and still respect the time they put in riding. The members of the ruling club were always respectful when our professional paths crossed, and I towards them. Members of the support clubs not so much, but that was just part of the job, no biggie. Similar organization structures, just different focuses. There's a serious tough path we go down to get our wings. we earn the right, and continually re-qualify to wear that different uniform and ride that motor. After learning what it takes to be fully patched in I always respected that dedication and commitment part of the culture. Now when I'm at a bike rally, bar, event etc and the ruling club is showing their presence I'm actually good with that as i know fools will not be tolerated. If i see a support club is running the event ill not stop or ill leave, as generally it will not be a professional atmosphere. And don't try and pass a 1% MC. I may not like the fact they are going 80 and i rolled up at 100, but thats just the way it is. I'll pull off and let the squaw pee and get a coffee, let them get further up the road, or just drop back and ride 80. Choose your battles wisely.
@jwc7334
@jwc7334 2 ай бұрын
I actually get amused when someone asks me if it’s like SOA. But it’s also my chance to explain how it really works I guess I am now one of the old timers I hate facing that but oh well. I’m lucky to be here. So do I get mad there ain’t no time worth wasting getting mad over that. And that’s the problem. Sometimes the dumbest questions are the ones that are the most important to ask
@ItsDaJax
@ItsDaJax 2 ай бұрын
I've never had no interest in the show, but I'm pretty sure that's the closest thing to mc life that most people have witnessed, unless they've played the GTA Lost and Damned game. It's like if you knew somebody that worked at Walmart or a place like Texas Roadhouse and asked them if it's like the movie Waiting or Employee Of The Month. People don't know, and people aren't always critical thinkers and let curiosity get the best of them. They say there's a bit of truth in just about anything, but even not seeing the show, the fact that it's a drama and a show, even if there is some real world reflections, I can assume real mc's are not like that satire, parody, or however you would call it, so I don't even know how much truth is even in the show. I generally expect people to be ignorant about whatever I'm into, until proven otherwise, and it's not always easy being patient in regards to an outsider talking about the thing you care about most, or are really invested in. I'm sorry for this long ass response. I do have a question, though. How many people do you encounter asking if it's like SoA, act like they know all there is to mc life because of the show?
@davidzapata9908
@davidzapata9908 2 ай бұрын
It’s all about respect no matter what or who you are it’s best just be respectful and you will be respected as well
@PerN1660
@PerN1660 2 ай бұрын
I think this might be less of a thing in other countries. I´m from Denmark, and grew up around bikers, in this small farm country place. My dad was in a club, not an outlaw club but they were also not like your average citizen. They put on this bike meet every year all the way back from the 80´s to this day. My old man did security for them, and let me tag along during the daytime (and didn´t notice me sneaking out of the tent to watch the strippers at night). What I saw growing up was often, these more on the rough side biker clubs, growing into outlaw clubs. During the 80´s they partied together, and honestly it did not work out well. My old mans job was dangerous, and the bikers took the brunt of it, because they were like tough strong dudes who worked at the farm, but they were not about that life and they did not come armed. They always had a box of confiscated weapons at the end. During the 90´s some sorta separation happened. I think my old mans club made some sorta agreement, with the outlaw clubs, and except for one they stopped showing up. The one that did, got their own field next to the official one, set up their own little camp and did their own thing, except for buying a bunch of beer. I always respected them for that. In the back of my mind I knew they could have crushed whatever my old man and his club made, but they did not, they figured it out amongst themselves. My old man is not here anymore, but he loved that place, and always told me not to fear the outlaws, but also let them do their thing.
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