From a fan perspective, Nascar was better before the charters.

If there is no charter deal, it will go back to teams chasing actual purse money. Rewind to the 80’s, not so bad.

I’m so sick of charter systems they need get hell out of here

It’s going to keep getting worse

I think Stewart haus has started a eye opener

Millionaires arguing with billionaires.

I have seen this kind of tug of war once before. Penske was involved. I see a split just like cart and Indy. The tracks that nascar owns will be the leverage. Race teams will split and find other tracks to run on.

I've been a fan of NASCAR since the 1970s, and my gut feeling is things are close to falling apart. I do not like the rules and regulations put on teams today and it is taking away from my enjoyment of the sport.

I truly hope the charter system goes under. It stiffles competition majorly. NASCAR was already insanely expensive to get into as a sport, but the Charter system makes it actively impossible.

EXCELLENT interview Kenny; also INCREDIBLE breakdown by Denny of this situation! I'm from the sports world, and have worked for both professional hockey, basketball and baseball teams. He's SPOT on...

This is an example on a small scale of what’s happening nation wide. Unions! The people want more power back just like the teams. Come on Denny!

Do away with the charter system completely. NASCAR and the tracks need to work together to significantly increase the payout for the races. This way revenue to the teams is earned through performance and it helps to promote competition. Charters are stunting growth because new teams can’t come into the sport unless they have one. How many races do we see now where there’s only 36 cars showing up to the track each week? I miss the days where 52 teams used to show up for 43 spots. Your spot in the field should never be guaranteed just because you have a “charter”.

I never could stand Denny as a driver, but as an owner and with some of his perspective on building and running a team, he puts a good viewpoint out there.

The way it sounds to me, charters need to go.

Team owners just need to buy some tracks or spin off with SMI for a new racing series. The fans won't stay with NASCAR, they'll follow the stars which are the drivers and teams. Media will follow the fans.

Jordan may be the saving factor for this race form. He has the power. Never envisioned him doing this but he alone can save it.

RIP NASCAR

I've always thought that in a negotiation if both sides aren't happy with a least something, then the negotiation wasn't fair.

Great interview Kenny! I love your KZfaq channel!

NASCAR is just not that important to people in this day and age. We can live without it !!

If you guys didn't show up at a race by boycotting races they will get the message

You get what we give you. Sounds like every every local track across the country. If you don't like then don't come back or try somewhere else. The problem with the local track is if the racer doesn't show up the track will eventually shut down

And this is EXACTLY how High Limit started. Keep effin around and Nascar is gonna find out🤔

I knew NASCAR was going to die when they started buying up all the tracks. Its a monopoly, and they (nascar) are getting loaded.

I compare the charter system to the medallion system in for New York cabs. They went from 50K to almost a mil, Now they are worth nothing. No matter how it goes for one side or the other it is unsustainable.

NASCAR is like old money ppl they don’t want anyone to make money but them selfishness selves.

Kenny you are the best when it comes to NASCAR media.

The sport is about to implode

Great information Kenny & Denny, Thank for this! The driver of the 11 sounds incredibly convincing but I'd really like to hear the other side of the story just one time.

Go back to One race.... start, 250 Miles, finish, Winner WINS

Run your business like a normal everyday business in America. Private jets, multimillion dollar shops to bolt a prefab car together etc... would be a good place to start to bring the 18 million down which is a fictional number since spending beyond what you bring in is just poor business practices. Look in the mirror & start there!!!

This is a really delicate situation. Almost 30 years ago, indycar went through their split, and they have never recovered fully. I hope Nascar, the tracks, and the teams learn a few from that situation and get a deal done.

It sounds like NASCAR has everyone by the balls, and has no intention of letting go. They own it all.

I wish the France family would move to France. If you take care of those who take care or make sure that the organization is running good everyone wins. It seems the the frances are more interested in short term profits than long term viability.

I was a big nascar fan but now I've been watching F1 and Indy car and motogp 😢

I love your show kenny. You bring a new light to racing with honest conversation. How can i get a diecast signed by you? Keep up the good work legend

Skip Daytona in 2025 as a group. Like Hamlin said “Someone is going to have to feel some pain.”

We love our drivers and owners, not so much with NASCAR. I used to go to NASCAR races at the infield in Charlotte. We went from showing up early to get a spot to having to buy spots that got smaller and more expense. They then took the sight lines away. Never again! I spend my money at my local dirt tracks. Just saw the Outlaws last night and it was a good a show as any NASCAR race. As Darrell Waltrip said about Rusty Wallace when he wrecked him at the first All star race to win, I hope the Frances choke on their money!

Glorified spec series , I keep up on news like this but do not waste my Sundays anymore...

Never thought i would say this but i really totally agree with denny lately i have agreed with alot of things he has to say.

No teams no races no Nascar. The teams should do an IRL type move when CART split. Get back to basics and make the cars cheaper.

Drop the charter, drop the playoffs, let teams pick and choose races but put up big $$ for a season long points battle. Probably could attract a season championship cup sponsor again. This helps to make each race a standalone big deal in and of itself again and allows teams to do the cost benefit analysis of races. If promotors aren’t getting butts in seats then let them do what needs to be done to promote their race again.

I really hope these teams don’t fold on this negotiation. I hope they at least hold out and race without the choke hold to show NASCAR the teams could make more money but coming as they please.

Ok, NASCAR has existed since the 1950s. Now in the past 10-12 years the teams are suddenly losing money, got to have guarantees, want a firm percentage of the external revenue stream, want equity in their business model, were given a charter and "the teams" have placed market value on it not NASCAR. What did they do before from 1950-2000. Seems like there were always plenty of teams to show up and qualify for a race. Now its impossible for anyone to show up and race unless you own a charter. Kind of stiffles competition dont it. Maybe they need to get out of the Taj Mahals and go back to working in simple garages like they used to

Heres how you show them whos more valuable. Pick the next three biggest races and park the fuckin cars. Look at the down turn that dale sr’s death had on the sport and he’s one man. Tony stewart tried to start an alternative and unfortunately it didnt work out. Would sure like to know the behind the scenes crap nascar pulled over that deal. Tony walking away should have sent shock waves through the sport but its old news now…

This is why the cars no longer have associate sponsorship. Those little sponsorship on the front wheel fenders were full at one time.

I wondered how the new TV Partners’ payments to NASCAR change if there little or no show to put on in a given race weekend? I’m sure their investment in the Sport was predicated on an ever-increasing viewing audience. On a side note, are NASCAR’s NFT digital products still around? Wasn’t that supposed to be the next big moneymaker for everyone?

I can see one point about the charters , its like money in the bank

We need new leaders and owners like Denny and Brad K in the sport. I get the cost, but I wished Dale Jr would get into cup. NASCAR to keep growing needs Dale Jr, Hamlin, Brad K to be the voices for drivers and fans. Mr H, Penske, Jack Roush, Joe Gibbs, and Richard are not going to be around forever. All are getting up in age.

The world existed before NASCAR it will go around without just fine without it.

I havent seen a race in 2 years. I used to go to 2-3 races a year and dedicate my Sunday afternoons. Im not saying what NASCAR is doing is wrong, I can only say they have put together a racing series I am no longer interested in.

I am not, and never have been a Denny Hamlin fan. But I agree with what he is saying.

I am a Nascar fan for 50 years and no days it sucks, don't just take my word, look at the grand stands race day.

I thought the new cars were supposed to save the team's money but it sounds like it's not

I've been a Denny fan since his rookie year. Smart dude. Now win a championship bro

the fans are sick of nascar we come to the races to support the teams yeah that helps nascar but we dont like it but we want to show the love to the teams at loudon when i went this year i saw a bunch of banners people were flying saying nascar sucks we are here for the teams.

These charters are not real, nascar can revoke them. Like NFT’s that teams trade amongst themselves.

the france family want to sell NASCAR and they can not have things like charters holding that back

Kenny! lol. Love the videos. Cut, cut, cut.

Im pretty sure NASCAR will survive . This just media gold. Good job kenny!😊

The charter system was one of the last bad decisions made by a guy who made a lot of bad decisions for nascar. Btw, it was the ARCA series that big bill france brought to Talladega when the nascar drivers boycotted.

This is heading towards a replay of teams walking away from participating in events for a few weeks. Nobody wants that but to not negotiate in good faith is going to bring things to a breaking point. Daytona 2025 with 6 cars entered.

It is possible for a sponsors to buy the Charters? The sponsors could then hire the teams/drivers as contractors for 36 races each season.

As a fan of NASCAR I’m not a Hamiln fan but he does have an absolutely point here. NASCAR wonders why they lose teams and fans well one is the stars droping out (like SHR) and the other is inconsistent calling of rules. It’s basically a pick and choose who gets what. I believe they need to at least cover cost for the teams to put on a damn good show (especially if they want to rig it like they did with Larson at Indy). But they won’t hell they can’t even get caution calls correctly so in my opinion NASCAR (not the teams) will kill them selves. Which blows my mind.

*it's 2030, the charter deal is gone. The Cup field struggles to field more than 25 cars, most drivers in the series have no prestige because they've all bought theor rides instead of earned them, and only Hendrick Motorsports is winning any races because most other teams are barely functional* NASCAR fans: "At least the Charter system is gone"

WOW 18 million dollars a season to run 1 car Nascar has over priced their organization 😮 running themselves into the ground it's crazy I stopped watching cause of all the B.S. every week

Herman NASCAR has got Greed on the brain😊

This sucks as a fan, either nascar takes care of the operating costs and passes that on to the fans. Or nascar says no and you lose drivers or teams for seasons or bare minimum they will pick and choose races as Denny said.

Real content!

Double/increase the purse monies. Do away with the charters. Put it all on performance. Throw out the current rules book. Simplify the rules. Allow for gray areas that teams were able to dance around and make their cars more competitive. Make the cars look like actual stock cars.

As a fan, I think they need to go back to the way they were during Dale SR AND Dale Jr. The only races I watch are the ones Dale Jr runs.

Not talking Charters, but one Big thing I noticed at Indy, the Seats, were Not sold out! There was Plenty of Empty Seats! I Thought, Indy was Always , sold out. What's happening ?

Michael Jordan needs to attend some NHRA events with Smoke!

Longtime NASCAR fan and I know that the France family is making a killing ok, it’s no secret. NASCAR needs to get this new deal correct and share profits with the teams. Yes everyone could be replaced, teams, drivers etc. Fans pay to see a Quality product with the best of the best on the track each week. Fans won’t pay for anything less. It’s been tried in the past and it failed. I enjoy NASCAR as a sport, but that’s all it is.

All teams need to stop racing! In till France family comes up with a better deal! There greedy an making way to much money! NASCAR sucks!!

This is unfortunate and will likely be the reason I stop watching and going to races. Money, power, and greed at the root of this. I applaud Denny for his leadership and courage in championing the conversation on the driver side. He could easily be fined or marginalized by NASCAR for speaking out.

A charter deal where Teams and NASCAR share Car #s, NASCAR & Teams share sponsors in money only not in image. We should go back to the days where every car has a few of the same sponsor logos on every car. Bring back Pepsi and throw Pepsi or Coke on every car. Stuff like that. Share the revenue and share the power. Create a balance system where NASCAR agrees to pay the basic costs for teams as long as they make their sponsorship amount/quota/revenue. This would cause teams to go after even more sponsorship and could bring more money into the sport. This all starts with getting a main sponsor for the cup series again. Look to Walmart, Microsoft, or NVIDIA even.

Unless the France family plan on running races with no teams in them, they need owners. Why would anyone run NASCAR knowing that the teams they’re investing all this money into have zero value?

Sounds crazy, maybe it is BUT if there isn't an agreement, NASCARwin and the teams and fans lose, start your own series, all the teams, drivers, sponsors move on to something new where the owners are the governing body make the rules, set the budget, NASCAR has become wayy too big and at what cost? At the end of the day, they're rolling in the $$$ no matter what while everyone else suffers. Just my opinion, hate if you want but something needs to change

I hope Kaulig buys one of them for SVG to drive full-time 2025

Pay the teams and drivers.

The gen 7 low hp car ruined it for me more than anything. In 2016 or so the cars were so much more fun to watch. Sliding them sideways off the corners at Atlanta and staying in it was always fun. This new car gets sideways it’s going around. Take a step back to those cars and it’d be a lot better. With better racing, especially the short track problems. Not going to 2 different compounds tire like f1. That’s just not the answer. I can’t figure out why there so set in not giving more hp for more tire wear and off throttle time.

I would like to see charters go away entirely. But if they stay, Nascar needs to pay independent teams the same purse money that charter teams get. The charter owners want to choke out any small team.

As a fan I want to see the guys at the track every week racing for a win

That statement of asking NASCAR to "cover their costs" makes no sense. What costs? The overspending on engineering that the teams are doing? The travel costs? The teams are already set to get significantly more than they had been receiving after the new TV deal. How about the teams accept a spending cap that is reasonable. NASCAR has already placed rules limiting the number of traveling crew members and cut practices in order to help cut expenses. Part of the problem is that teams need to look into the mirror on how they spend.

Nascar is just securing their money. And future of the sport. And they will go eléctric. And this is 55+ years as a fan that will probably not be around.

This is all about putting money in Hamlin's pocket

I pay $100.00 a year for FRDM Larry McReynolds hosted a few races Kurt Bush won a race Tony Stewart had dominated the Indy 800 until a last lap restart. Drag, roll, drag and drive racing, street car take over, dirt racing, jet boat racing + mini jet, burn-out's skids" Australian style, aircraft-all types, shenanigans and a lot more. I gave up on Nascar a looooooong time ago for two reasons 1st to many rule changes at the time when Toyota came to Nascar that hurt a lot of teams that were meant to hurt Toyota. 2nd was just before Dale Ernheart passed away too much fucking drama and it has only gotten worse imho. F-1 is the best racing and they do it right. They keep the drama out!!! No interviews pre or after race, they keep the racers private life private and what brand toothpaste or shoes they use. Top three get up on the stage receive their trophies then filed into a very short post q and a and wha-la. I have a couple years on you Kenny. Yer still a kid poking with a stick and it's hilarious. If you aint having fun "you go you know the thing"

If every team wouldn't show up to the Daytona 500. Nascar would get the message loud and clear.

Even if .. u can’t buy some thing u don’t own

What is keeping all these teams with Nascar, why can’t they build their own league and forget Nascar altogether and do it on their own? SRX was very popular and was run very well until it got into the wrong hands. Let’s get back to stock-car racing.

RCR should buy both

Its a easy fix all the teams do not show up at Daytona in February make the france family get off of the money or just run the races that make sense not all of them

The teams should just not show up for Daytona and a couple of races after that, nascar needs to learn a leason!!

The charter systems put smaller teams at a huge disadvantage. I believe in the long run it's detrimental to the sport. How do you expect smaller teams to ever get their foot in the door if they can never qualify? There has to be a better way. It worked for half a century without charters. Find a reasonable way to cut costs and you won't need the charters. The Wood Brothers made it without running every race for 20 years. There are plenty of sponsors for part time teams, as shown by the fact that many of them will only sponsor the big teams for partial seasons.

I was a loyal fan of all three series of nascar the way the tv packaging is going to be I can afford this just like the NFL nascar is not loyal to me same way nascar not helping the teams

Race for anyone but nascar. No show at the 500

Get Your Sugar Daddy to Buy 12 Tracks and Go For it...! Show the France Family How its Done...😂😂😂😂

Great video! Very interesting points being made!

I sense that the rta mat boycott some events if this agreement expires and a new one is not reached