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@@intoitreviews Appricate the video , Its great seeing other audio enthuist passion !

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Yeah great point, I didn't get the matching piece, but I have heard that's the case. Great to know! Thanks for being a part of the Neighborhood and subscribing to the channel. Enjoy the music with your new amp!

the dac in the cd player is identical to the one in the 1600

Bummer, if that is true is must be completely psychological. Mind blown! Fairly sure they're different in the US doh.

@@intoitreviews DAC chip is the only %30 of the job, implementation makes big difference .Same DAC chip with good power supply, pre amp implementation on a seperate deck system will be much better than same DAC chip onboard of an amplifier.

Preaching to the choir. Thanks for your thoughts being a loyal subscriber to the Neighborhood.

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Thanks for you comments and for subscribing to help the channel. Its definitely a great unit for the price if it matches your speakers well. And you are right, it is built very well, and its heft shows how well it is built. But, it was too cold and analytical for my speakers, and the Gold Note PA10 was just a better, more musical amplifier for similar money (for my speakers specifically); but that unit isn't an integrated, so one does lose out on the features that you get in the case of the integrated Denon. I'll go back and watch the video again, but I think I was pretty fair actually, and I stand by my reviews, as I put a lot of thought and effort into them. I'd invite you to re-watch it as well with that, and the following information in mind. A Topping D30 and some other budget DAC models were MUCH better than the included DAC, and the tone controls were necessary with the included DAC for sure (but wouldn't be necessary if the DAC were better), and as you noted they do work well. I also am not a huge fan of the Schiit Modi either, as there are much better DACs for the price. And yes, I would have liked the tone controls to be motorized like the volume control, or digitally stepped... as I did wish to adjust them more than "set it and forget it." But like I also said, the phono section is great, and I did consider keeping it for both that feature, and its power. I'm not sure, how much more fair I could be than that? I really wasn't overly critical I don't think. Sorry if you felt I was. Hope you enjoy the unit you swapped it out for. I hear it's even better. I hope to check it out one day.

@@intoitreviews No worries. I am not trying to play the advocate for the unit (or any other model). My only worry was people thinking it is not good enough for the money. To me it really is. I have not heard every single model, and we do not all agree on different amps/speakers. Otherwise, who doesn't believe something better (for any of us) is always around the corner. And with regards to the A110, I really LOVE it! But hey, that one is more than double the price; it has to be much better ;)

I agree with Emil, this amp is a gem, I have been using the UK version of this amp with PCM 1795 DAC for about 8 Months now, it sounded unspectacular right out of the box and needed 2-3 days use before it gave it's best. Personally I find the DAC to be excellent, not thin and lacking in bass as you mention, but warm and full of life, with great stereo separation and well balanced across the frequency spectrum, the amp is super clean and airy, very Hi Res while being creamy smooth with low end and punch, it doesn't particularly play well at low volumes where the sound is a tad boring, but turn the wick up and WOW it really comes to life, punching you in the chest but still remaining composed no matter how loud you go (no nasty treble here even when at nearly full output unlike my last 3 amplifiers) it's easily capable of giving the neighbors a very bad day (I swear this thing is outputting way more than 70W per ch) Switching out the digital circuit makes it sound buttery smooth and even warmer, great for Vinyl and other analogue RCA inputs if you want it. Main niggle is the very sensitive volume control when using remote, and it's a shame the remote doesn't allow you to turn on and off source direct, that has to be done on the amp. A subwoofer out and pre line outs would have also been nice, but for a 1200 quid amp with a decent 32 bit DAC I am very happy with it. It's surprising heavy as well at just under 40lbs and I read somewhere it took on 3 or 4 other good amps like Hegel, Yamaha & NAD and come out on top and was the reviewers favorite. This in fact was the only amp I tried apart from an Arcam SA20 that tamed the tweeters on my Monitor Audio Silver 300's and made them integrate well with the music (tried Naim, Musical Fidelity, Audio Lab and Rega) It will be a keeper for a while yet.

Thanks for your paragraph. But, the UK versions of the Denon are often different, which is a possibility I alluded too in the video, and likely the case here. I hope you payed attention to the video, and understand that. Also, your ears may have adjusted, or it could be a difference with your particular speakers/setup. I test numerous speakers and combinations of particular gear for specific reasons and purpose, across a number of weeks, and generally I am talking about the performance envelope of a product in a review and not specific outcomes. And, I hate to say it, because I don't let other reviews influence mine, but if you do check out other reviews of this product, I am not the only one say the DAC has issues, and this is evidence of this before, and after, my review. So, in this particular case, there is actually some consistency there for other consumers to follow. Your experience may vary, but it doesn't mean a product performs a certain way, even if you "disagree," for whatever reason. Just "food for thought" for you, and everyone really. But, I'm glad you enjoy your amplifier, as that is what is most important, in the end; is it not?

I have the pma1600ne, and yes, this reviewer does not give the amp enough credit. About the DAC, in this amp the DAC takes a long time to break in and it is VERY GOOD! I can afford just about any DAC that I want to buy, and the internal DAC in the pma1600 is so good that I will not bother looking elsewhere.

Yup!

6k buys you a lot of other amp probably too I guess. Good to seee the 1500r has done you mostly well. Thanks for being a subscriber!

Yes

Yes

No sorry.

"Better" is subjective, but I'd probably go with the Denon, as I find it more resolving and revealing, albeit leaner... thanks for subscribing...

Hey Jeff, thanks for subscribing. You would just use an external radio as a source with an RCA output. Treat it as a dac basically. Hope that helps!

@@intoitreviews Got it, thx's

Thanks for watching and subscribing. I luckily didn't have any of that when I had it. I just wanted a better sound.

Either would be fine. I replaced my pma 1600 ne with a gold note pa10, love the tones a bit more. Check out gestalt audio design. They can get you either. Thanks for subscribing to the channel!

@@intoitreviews ty n ty for review.

Depends on price point. At that priçe it's hard to beat the RME Adi2. Gold Note DS-10 is my personal DAC of choice, but higher price. The Konus Audio Digitale series only does 16/44.1, but sounds amazing. If you want more of an analog flavor I really did enjoy the iFi neo streamer/DAC, close in price to the Gustard. If something else comes to mind, l will let you know. I'm using a FiiO R7 upstairs right now, it's ok... Better than the Denon, but I think one would need to get the power supply for it to get the most out of it. I likely won't recommend it without it... And I'm having a hard time sourcing one... It sounds pretty good... Almost there, but not quite. Power supply might fix it...?

@@intoitreviews thank you for such rapid answer. Generally speaking, this Denon should be paired with warmer sounding dac like Gustard R26 for example or just opposite ?

It's all gonna depend on your system as a whole, but yeah generally speaking, something with a touch of mellowness (amount of warmth needed will vary based on preference) that still extends well would be what I would look for. The ADI 2 will be the most neutral, followed by gold note, followed by konus, followed by the iFi. I don't tend to rec overly warm Dacs, but I also hear good things about the ef400 from HIFIMAN as a dac (it's limited somewhat and I don't like he headphone output as much). I also liked the iFi micro signature as a dac out and it was decently warm and beefy (might not have enough liquidity for the Denon though). The Diablo is kind of in between the iFi signature and the neo. Just so you know, my topping d30 which is around $100 outperformed the internal dac considerably.

I had it for a number of months with hundreds of hours of burn in on the dac and the amp, but who knows... perhaps it needed more time. I'm also sure on a less revealing set of speakers it might also be fine. I tend to be more picky than most as well, but I'm also not the only one to point out the DAC as the deficit of this amp- if you look at other reviews there is a consensus. Thanks for subscribing to support the channel Cameron.

I'm using AudioQuest Dragonfly v1.2 and sounds better than the DAC of the amp. Not sure why, maybe it's the USB cable?

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There are lots of good options depending on price. My favorite DAC atm would the konus digitale series as great pricier options. Next step down might be looking at the RME ADI-2, but there also many other dacs that could work. I got better performance from a topping d30 than the integrated DAC, but I'd probably look next at a iFi micro idsd as an option if you are okay with single ended performance only (those are about $600ish, and have a muscle car like performance/would likely match well depending on your speakers). Hope that helps and thanks for supporting the channel by subscribing!

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I have Polks, Legend L200 4 ohms... Musician Knight one 4ohms... Just purchased Warfedale Evo 4.2 I think those are 4ohms too

It is better, but I'd upgrade even further if I were you. Something like the Konus Audio Integrale 1000 depending on the power you need.

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I haven't tried that particular pairing, but I would think it would do quite well with that Timbre of a speaker. I would just recommend using a different DAC.

I no longer have the unit or the manual. Assuming it doubles from 4 to 8, 105 watts sounds likely. I'd think 100ish. Thanks for subscribing to the channel! This really help, and makes it possible for me to keep making excellent content like this.

I'd prpbably do that (get the used) unless you want a stark, chemeleon like sound.

@@intoitreviews I never bought used Hi-Fi gear so I’m afraid to get ripped off xD

Always a risk.

@@juliangst Find a shop that sells used gear that they serviced or refurbished themselves. See the people, talk to them, then you'll know if you can trust them. If they love what they do, they will not rip you off. It's not the cheapest option, you'll have to pay for the servicing or refurbisment effort. But you could make a fresh start with reliable used gear.

@@colanitower already ordered a used amp but thanks for the advice

You'll have to use a high level input from your subwoofer from the Speaker B post. The Recorder out is a "fixed" output so it will not work as a "preout" to control the volume of the subwoofer. High level input is better for intergration anyways if your subwoofer has that connection.

Thujan is correct, I was mistaken. There is no dedicated sub out, so you would need to use line-level inputs on your sub. Which is less of a big deal when you get used to it.

@@ThujanK is it any bad effect-in sound

Yamaha is slightly warmer, thicker note weight, fuzzier... Thanks for subscribing

Hi! How's the step up from the CXA60 to the PMA1600NE in terms of general audio quality?

A lot.

@@zbojtdifnmj The Denon is more transparent, better clarity, wider soundstage, more powerful sounding and more control when the wick is turned up, CX60 was more detailed at lower volumes tho, but too bright at higher volumes.

Puzzling is an understatement. My findings are exactly as you describe them Mutley.

Also went from cxa60 to denon pma1600ne. Although its in storage waiting for its new space in my new home. Very excited to compare !

Excellent points thanks for subscribing

Interesting opinion.

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