DENON S970H - Why I'm Returning It

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@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

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@thomasjones2071 Жыл бұрын

That's for informative video, especially the breakdown of the 4k/120hz. Eagles Fan for sure!!

@EndbossTV 9 ай бұрын

Hey! Thx for the great video. Question, The Denon AVC-X3700H or Denon AVC-X4700H are indeed significantly more expensive. Are the only advantages that I have more channels, for example, if I want to connect 4 Atmos speakers, or are there more advantages? Or are there even advantages of the AVR-S970H that the mentioned ones do not have?

@GhostpenguinsReptileResort Жыл бұрын

Did you figure out how to fix the center channel? I bought this and love everything else about it….. but the center sounds so bad 😖

@leonci5639 Жыл бұрын

My speakers operate in the range of 50-180W. I have a 5.1 setup. Are the 75W per channel underdimensioned for my setup or is it going to be just fine?

@josephespino2628 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for suggesting to use the second HDMI output for HDMI light sync boxes!

@nrnoble Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. What would be some useful functionality for having a second video out? I am assuming that both display the same video out.

11 ай бұрын

Great content Jacob! I am helping my old man to setup a 970 and the guy who sold it to us (together with a bunch of other stuff) tried to get aps such as deezer and youtube to stream from my dads phone (S23) to no avail. From his iPhone, the guy is able to stream via airplane. I am thinking..... could there be a true limitation of the 970, of only streaming from apple devices with airplay? is there a work around? Any ideas or heads ups? Thanks!

@lazarousjam 7 ай бұрын

Super awesome and informative. Thanks for sharing.

@steve95023 9 ай бұрын

Where did you get the angled stands your using for the front atmos bookshelf speakers?

@blanka4545 Жыл бұрын

can't ' wait to get mine yeah!

@rtaustin316 8 күн бұрын

Thanks for the advice on the S760!

@LuckyClipsLC 7 ай бұрын

What speaker stands are those that ur using as heights?

@jdavideast Жыл бұрын

I tried the 760 from Costco and couldn't hear hardly any verbal dialog from streaming through the newest appleTV 4k, even after the calibration. Took it back.

@nigelpottinger901 Жыл бұрын

As always very detailed video makes me wanto go buy my self a denon even though qas going for 1 anyway

@yardman0001 Жыл бұрын

Can someone check if your 970 displays DTS HD Master Audio on the panel or info bar on the screen when watch a blu-ray with Master Audio. Mine only shows DTS HD and doesn't show the Master Audio part anywhere. Thanks.

@pjaygutierrez1407 Жыл бұрын

Thanks boss! Now I’m really sold getting the S760H! And of course Fly Eagles Fly! 🦅🦅🦅

@offgridsolaruk843 8 ай бұрын

What about 3D pass through? Does the 760 have that?

@tragicanomaly1707 Жыл бұрын

2:24 are you using an S760H for this setup?

@catminister3327 Жыл бұрын

how does the s760H compare to pioneers vsx935

@CatManDoom84 Жыл бұрын

That is one sexy home theater setup ya got there dude! I just got the 570BT, upgraded from an old yamaha and wow im loving it! 4k 120hz for my new pc, and a huge upgrade in sound quality for my PS5 which is pretty much a dedicated 4k bluray player hah (unless im playing PS5 exclusive games). If you dont need a 7.1 receiver like the 760h def go with the 5.2 570BT for a $100 less. Great video either way!

@TheJediRevan Жыл бұрын

I have the s760H and love it!

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

Same!

@tometube1 Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hijack a thread, but I have a Denon S940H, and I'm trying to hook an original XBox (Mechassault FTW) via Component (RBG?). I'm connected to the TV via HDMI, and I'm getting the impression the components can't be routed to the HDMI to TV. Wtf is the purpose of the component inputs if this is the case? Can someone help me out? I have a native OGXbox to HDMI converter on order, but in the interim, can someone explain why I can't get this to work?

@thedarkdade Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ronsworld250 9 ай бұрын

I loved the video and I am having an issue with the DENON AVR-S970H receiver I just purchased . For some unknown reason, my receiver cuts off randomly for no apparent reason when I increase the volume. I read somewhere that this may occur if your speakers are not able to handle the power. I have some very, very, old Polk surround 5.1 speakers and was wondering if you can recommend a good replacement set of speakers that are compatible with this receiver? I prefer the Polk sound and I loved your setup. Would you mind sharing what type and where you purchased your Polk surround sound system? Thanks so much for any help you can provide.😊

@kevinvizcainno 2 ай бұрын

It was your hdmi

@PedrotheOscalecollector 4 ай бұрын

I had a denon 8k receiver it's had so many problems that the sound kept going out and changing up. Also, I bought an emovita m1l basx 9.2 and don't have any problems work fines every time

@TeraqAT Жыл бұрын

Does AVR-S970H have new graphical user interface (GUI) in 1080p ? all new X2800H X3800H X4800H etc have updated user interface with new GUI, but i have heard AVR-S970H still have that ugly old interface.

@docwho10th88 Жыл бұрын

Yes there are us who need two outputs for our projectors. The tv goes behind a motorized screen. Godzilla is measured in feet and yards..not inches! lol And no, in my room that sucks up sound I need at least 90 watts per channel. I picked up the 970 for only $400. I also got the Denon 2700 for my main theater for $549. Great review btw!

@MandrakeCigars 7 ай бұрын

Just bought the S970H for $399 on sale today. Thanks for the video!

@JacobDarkOfficial 7 ай бұрын

Nice!

@stinkfinger 7 ай бұрын

Well crap, I bought the 970 yesterday too... paid a little under $500. Who has it for $399?

@MandrakeCigars 7 ай бұрын

@@stinkfinger It was at adorama. The deal showed up on the slickdeals website.

@appala 3 ай бұрын

Can you let me know where you bought it for 400? is it new or refurb?

@drhoeh 11 ай бұрын

I totally agree with you and I would have gone with the s760 over the s970h if I didn't already find a s970h on sale for the same price. At that point the decision was made for me. I just wish the system had ir inputs and along with analog video inputs for my legacy consoles.

@canehoyer Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your video! I have 2 questions: 1.) Is it possible to built a surround group without using cables just via HEOS as you can do with SONOS oder Bluesound systems? 2.) Is there any delay of video signal from XBOX or PS4/5 passing thru the DENON to TV, as this would be important playing multiplayer shooters?

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

1) I've never used HEOS so not really sure 2) Absolutely no delay, I play both consoles with no issues

@avalosound Жыл бұрын

What's the difference between 970 and 960? I have the 960H. I'm having major issues with Bluetooth connection?

@TheWorstGamerr 9 ай бұрын

I have the same question.

@desbarry8414 Жыл бұрын

Bad luck buddy. I bought the new X1700H and have had zero issues, it is for a second system in the bedroom. I think on reflection I would only get models from their X series and avoid the s series, good looking system btw

@Weezulguy Жыл бұрын

Hey Des, looking at the 1700 and the top end S units, what do you specifically like about the 1700? I was spec'ing it out against the 960SH and it looked a little lean to me in some areas

@desbarry8414 Жыл бұрын

@@Weezulguy It has better HDMI functionality and NO bugs, like it upscales and switches perfectly without any drop outs . Im in the UK so maybe they only sell the better X range and not the S range. Really happy with my 1700H as Im really only using it with a PC via HDMI and my ITunes on a HDD I got a BD player hooked up too and it sits at the bottom of the bed in our bedroom. Go for the 1700H and skip the other middle units as you wont get a big leap until you go above the thousand dollar mark.

@Weezulguy Жыл бұрын

@@desbarry8414 thank you!

@skaryed 2 ай бұрын

I have a question. Does the 4k inputs support 4k 120hz or it's only featured in the 8k inputs?

@JacobDarkOfficial 2 ай бұрын

Only the 8K inputs support 4K 120Hz

@user-ec9bc9lr4i 6 ай бұрын

I have the same unit and cant get the setup menu to show up on tv out put i have a tcl roku tv and cant adjust the sound threw the set up screen. Anyone have this issue or just me?

@Albineitor 6 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for the valuable information. I will happily buy it on sale in my country for approximately 700 dollars. Greetings.😃

@O.G.Alphaborn Жыл бұрын

Hello I am looking at the are you having issues with video clipping. Meaning is the video input being filtered or spec'd on the video output to the TV. I have found that some receivers HDMi will spec the output from the receiver to the TV. Not true HDMI full video spectrum output

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

I have not experienced any issues

@O.G.Alphaborn Жыл бұрын

@Jacob Dark not really an issue a chip limitation. Also I am currently looking at s960h 2.3 hdmi any issues. I have ready some other comments about issue with this and other denon 4k 120 issues. I think unit is one that is not effected by the 4kissue something about the serial numbers

@alexhunter0815 Жыл бұрын

The price difference is a point which is important. For me, a receiver with only one hdmi output is useless as a broken car

@bg4406 6 ай бұрын

I have the 760, but I’m unhappy that I’m unable to connect my Amazon Alexa echo dot to the back by using a 3.5 to rca cable , it didn’t work on any of the rca ports, I tried the phono port and the cd port and the other rca ports and although I did get some sound it was horribly distorted especially when the bass kicked in, I made sure the wires were in correct, I didn’t have this problem on Yamaha or onkyo, does anyone that own the 760 try to connect there Alexa with 3.5 to rca cable??? I’m trying to figure out if I just got a defective unit

@MrBassfreaq 5 ай бұрын

Just bought it for only € 469 in the Netherlands. Guess that's a good price. It arrives tomorrow. Can't wait...

@daniellakatos4130 Жыл бұрын

Hi! Could you or somebody else help me please? The issue is whenever I connect my PS5 (whether with its own HDMI or a brand new one) the screen goes black and says ‘no signal’, also the AVR does not recognize the device as it writes ‘game’ or ‘xbox’ instead of ‘PS5’ (xbox s actually works properly and we have already tried what happens if it’s not connected or connected at the same time alongside with the PS, and the AVR always gets confused). What could be a possible solution? Thanks for the answers!

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

It's really impossible to diagnose without being there in person to try out different things. If everything fails maybe try to get it replaced

@jerrygregory4613 3 ай бұрын

Have you tried 2.1 hdmi cables

@chargingbadger_ 11 ай бұрын

last week I ordered the Denon 570 BT from amazon. Yesterday it arrived, and I was confused but also ecstatic as what arrived was actually a 970! Paid $280 for an open-box 570 and got a brand new $900 970. Quite the luck.

@JacobDarkOfficial 11 ай бұрын

Nice!!

@JacobDarkOfficial 11 ай бұрын

One time I ordered a $400 rug and they sent two. When I tried to return the 2nd they just told me to keep it so I sold it for $300 lol

@someonelse9 8 ай бұрын

one time i ordered a technics 1200 gr but got a 1200 g which was thousands of dollars extra. luck well deserved

@NateMac000 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review you calmed my FOMO... the 970h is $380 right now at Adorama with coupon.

@JacobDarkOfficial 6 ай бұрын

What coupon? I show it for $799

@NateMac000 6 ай бұрын

@@JacobDarkOfficial CYBEWEE2

@fredmccarroll3476 6 ай бұрын

I was going to go with the AVR-S 760H, but with all of the equipment that I need to connect there wasn't enough inputs/outputs according to the Geek Squad technician at Best Buy. And he suggested that I go with the Denon AVR-S 970H. The equipment that I need to connect is a 55 inch TV, two Tascam CD player/recorders, Music Hall turntable, Samsung Blu-ray player, and a Pioneer RT-1020L reel to reel tape deck. I also hope the Denon AVR-S 970H has an auxiliary input so that I can get the sound from my computer through my Klipsch 7.1 speakers when I watch KZfaq videos.

@user-rp6mq5pc3f Жыл бұрын

Спасибо! Очень подробно, достаточно профессионально и, самое главное, для меня - актуально. Уважаю!

@mrsuri33 Жыл бұрын

i have the 950h and the ony reason for me would be hdmi 2.1. my xbox is now connected directly to the tv and that works just fine. if this thing has the ame sound output i do not see ht epoint for now

@mangatom192 5 ай бұрын

So that's why I can't find the s760h. It's been discontinued for a long while now.😅

@chas218 Жыл бұрын

I found a refurbished S970H for $500. I think I might pull the trigger, thanks to your points about the price and all the features. Thanks!

@Slip_The_Jab Жыл бұрын

I’ve found them for $550. Can you put the link for that $500 price?

@_FLAK_ Жыл бұрын

I got one at $360.

@chas218 Жыл бұрын

@@_FLAK_ Do you have a link?

@BLown05Navigator Жыл бұрын

@@chas218 $399 on Amazon right at this moment..but only 6 left.

@chas218 Жыл бұрын

OMG! I just spent $630 on an x2700h!

@erniewyles8832 Жыл бұрын

Luckily, I was able to pick up the S970H for $399. I KNOW!!!!!!

@letsgetdoing Жыл бұрын

Same!

@yardman0001 Жыл бұрын

Me too.

@yardman0001 Жыл бұрын

Can one you check if your 970 displays DTS HD Master Audio on the panel or info bar on the screen when watch a blu-ray with Master Audio. Mine only shows DTS HD and doesn't show the Master Audio part anywhere. Thanks.

@erniewyles8832 Жыл бұрын

@@yardman0001 mine does the same. The Spanish and French tracks of the Lord of the Rings Extended 4k Blu-rays have that track, but I only get DTS-HD options and not DTS-HD MA on the panel.

@therobinsons7862 11 ай бұрын

Yea I was scared to see why he sent it back. Got this on a deal on prime day

@markkearns6702 4 ай бұрын

I see you're an eagles fan awesome btw does have an option to plug in a phono

@KrashTheMusician 11 ай бұрын

Will the 760h work with ps5 3d audio?

@JacobDarkOfficial 11 ай бұрын

Yes, I have a PS5 and works fine

@KrashTheMusician 11 ай бұрын

@@JacobDarkOfficialcool thanks for the reply man

@debronculture7093 Жыл бұрын

I really love the way you teaches And it’s very easy to do when you teach Powerful studio machines too❤❤❤

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@iapiaya 5 ай бұрын

I really like my S960h I run my PC gaming rig through it and results was great sound of course.(Best Bang for the Buck in my opinion) It identifies my Nvidia 4080 w/Nvidia High definiton Audio aslo with Polk Speakers & 2 subwoofers.I have no issues with 4K at 120hz gaming. I wasn't sure about settling on the Denon AVR S960H but so glad I did.

@JacobDarkOfficial 5 ай бұрын

Sounds like a nice setup you got going.

@ddeep2518 Жыл бұрын

Great video, very well explained, pls make a video on 3800h. I'm planning to grab one soon.

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the feedback! Please consider using my link, it really helps!

@user-yo3uc9zh6i 6 ай бұрын

What is the brand name of your dope speakers?? 😊

@JacobDarkOfficial 6 ай бұрын

The ones in my living room or home studio?

@user-yo3uc9zh6i 6 ай бұрын

@@JacobDarkOfficial the one on the video with TV screen in the middle, with mini ones on top of each monitors. Trying to see if they are also here in South Africa. Thanks

@Deltax5 4 ай бұрын

Are you sure the 4k ports labeled aren't HDMI 2.1? I think it's bandwidth. We got a place with buddy's with a lg c1. They say it's HDMI 2.1. But it's a 4k 120hz TV. Top end so says the internet. We need a receiver that fulfills the TV.

@THERIGHTWAY8164 5 ай бұрын

i have it and its weak 970 weak in power good if you have cheap speakers

@as2980 2 ай бұрын

Decent vid. Note: in other news, it's April 4-19-24. The s760h which is heralded here has a successor (the 2023 s770h) that's is out now and the video hasn't been revised to talk about it (not that doing so is mandatory in my view, just saying). Admittedly, I don't know if a s780 model is due this year (or a s770 successor with a different name). Yet if one comes about, it would be interesting to hear your decidely knowledgeable thoughts on it in general and/or via a review (brief overview, in-depth review, otherwise Mahalo.

@mattbakker8393 7 ай бұрын

Would you go with a 770 ($480) which was released on July of this year or the 970 ($525) which was released September of 2022? Anyone have any thoughts

@JacobDarkOfficial 7 ай бұрын

I don't think you'll really notice much of a difference performance wise, either should be fine.

@NICKISFAST Жыл бұрын

I have the s760h innmy apartment and it does its job

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

Absolutely does, I think in order to truly upgrade you'd need an X series receiver

@claypyrotech7473 6 күн бұрын

I just replaced my Onkyo Tx-NR696 to the denon avr-s970h and i notice a big difference on sound. The Denon was a big upgrade for me.

@JacobDarkOfficial 6 күн бұрын

Nice! I was actually thinking of getting the Onkyo TX RZ50 but I've read alot of people have issues with those units so will probably get another Denon when it's time to upgrade

@pablovi77 5 ай бұрын

The S970H is around $500 USD and I do need two outputs for my projector.

@cordoba4068 7 ай бұрын

S970 can be had for $400 (mine came from Adarama one day sale).

@pauldavidson317 6 ай бұрын

Just picked one of these up for $350. I didn't realise they were $900 😮

@aaaagggghhhh6370 11 ай бұрын

check out what the price walmart is selling it for !

@djcashwell Жыл бұрын

Great video, Still considering the S-970 as I plan out my home theater system.. I connect my PS5 to my TV…. And FLY EAGLES FLY/GO BIRDS

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

Go Birds!

@mikeharris8028 6 ай бұрын

Good video. I do prefer Yamaha receivers for their excellent audio quality. The green bird jersey should be changed to a Chiefs jersey!!

@sirnate54 Жыл бұрын

So your saying the s760h is better than the s960h?

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

The S760H is better for me because it has HDMI 2.1 for my consoles

@sirnate54 Жыл бұрын

@@JacobDarkOfficial The s960h also has HDMI 2.1. This is what I'm using with my series X.

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

@sirnate54 It does but only has one HDMI 2.1 input, I needed two for my PS5 and Series X, if you're OK with one you'll be fine sticking with it

@sirnate54 Жыл бұрын

@Jacob Dark Okay. Yeah, the s760h has 3 HDMI 2.1 inputs.

@TheZachTrack 7 ай бұрын

This Reciever is $379 at adorama right now. Heck of a deal at that price when mine is 10 years old. Lol

@JacobDarkOfficial 7 ай бұрын

I looked it up but it shows $599

@familyman8644 4 ай бұрын

They have killer sales now you should hage waited now avrs over 1000 you can find for 400 if you dont mind last years model like the DENON S 960H for 350$ maybe even x 2700 for 400 but its gone

@06silverfire Жыл бұрын

The 760 doesn’t have component for retro game consoles.

@watsonanthony8438 10 ай бұрын

Buy an adapter lol

@retropalooza 9 ай бұрын

S970h just managed one for 229.... that special opened box version

@eb2350 7 ай бұрын

where did you find one?

@retropalooza 7 ай бұрын

@@eb2350 best buy store closure boston

@73_de_CJHall Жыл бұрын

Denon response to rumors that AVR-S760H is being discontinued: · 3 hours ago Hello, The AVR-S760H is still a current model. We have them in stock.

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

Good to know, a rep at Crutchfield advised me they were discontinued (which their website showed at the time)

@CycloneJack Жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbmPoMqUzcu9YHU.html In case you want to get to the reason he's sending it back without listening to the rest of it, like I did. Answer: it's a good receiver; he just found a much cheaper one that meets his needs.

@JoeChrist34 Жыл бұрын

Dude you failed to mention the drawback of the S760H needing a honky adapter to display 8K 60hz/4k 120hz if you get stuck with a serial number under 7000. I know most if not all TV's don't support 8k yet, but people wanting to "future proof" their equipment, the s760h is NOT the way to go, especially since most of these sites now are unloading old models pre-7000 the serial number. So yeah, if you want one 8k input and likely need an adapter almost the size of the receiver itself to view 8k content, the old model is the way to go.

@JacobDarkOfficial Жыл бұрын

The S760H is not part of the chip problem, the only models affected were the Denon AVR-A110, Denon AVR-X6700H, Denon AVR-X4700H, Denon AVR-X3700H, Denon AVR-X2700H, Denon AVR-S960H

@JoeChrist34 Жыл бұрын

@@JacobDarkOfficial you're right man my bad. All these numbers scrambled my brain for a second. When you said you were returning the s970h I thought you were saying the older model the s960h (which also goes for around $500/600 now) was a cheaper and suitable replacement. So yeah, my bad. I actually got stuck with the 960 bro, and it fucking pissed me off! Good looks though, and thanks for the video!

@docwho10th88 Жыл бұрын

@@JacobDarkOfficial What was wrong with the chipset? So the 2700 does not do 8k? If so, no problem...by the time and IF that time comes around my 2700 will need replacing anyway. lol

@monacocross4241 Жыл бұрын

take yamaha

@rockabilli3058 5 ай бұрын

Bringe erst mal alles in Deutsch .Es gibt auch Leute die kein Englisch sprechen und lesen kónnen .Was ihr euch immer Einbildet mit euren Englisch. Ihr redet alle von Respekt und macht es selber nicht .Es Nerft einen wenn man was nicht versteht