i love watching these videos even as someone with thousands of hours 😭

Bunch of notes on certain champions to help players fight them even more: - Unstoppable Taken Phalanx & Cabal Incendior have to charge their strong attack before you take a big hit, meaning you can bait them into doing it by going around a corner or a rock, which immobilizes them for a bit and keep them from dmging you. - Overload Taken Hobgoblins can still unleash their Retaliation blasts while stunned if you provoke them before disrupting them. Be careful about damaging them before disrupting them. - All Barrier Champions may not regenerate their health if they have no targets in range (you or another race). So if you die against a barrier, it may not put its barrier up after you die, since it has nothing else to provoke it (the enemy will likely become docile and roam around like a regular ad). However, if this happens, and you provoke it, it will IMMEDIATELY throw its shield up to regenerate health. This doesn't always happen, but its nice to know. - All Overloads can still regenerate health while frozen and not stunned. However, this regeneration is far more tame that normal (as in it's slower than usual). So just because he can't move or attack, doesn't mean he isn't getting healthy. - Unstoppable Abominations are very slow while attacking and their attacks aren't as powerful as others. Time your shots while they attack and you'll be fine. - Unstoppable Ogres are by far the most dangerous champion outside of its stun state. Their beams melt, their slams are usually OHKOs, they are very fast, and ofc, cannot be "staggered" (as in doing massive dps to put them on the back foot) like Barrier and Overloads. Use caution. See Overload & Unstoppable below for stun states. - Barrier Servitors (assuming it's still like this) during their stun state will look up slightly after they are pierced (and just sitting there). So what? Well, their crit spot is actually shifted off of their eye during this time if you are attacking at a level field or slightly below them. If you aren't getting crits, even if shooting its eye, adjust your aim or positioning accordingly. - Overload Minotaurs will very likely begin charging at you, spawning in and out of existence as they approach you (they want to punch you). Follow their rhythm of teleports and remember it. This will help you time your shots and prevent wasted abilities. - Overload & Unstoppable Champions have rings around them or some root looking thing sprouting from them. While these are bright and white, they CANNOT be stunned. When these accessories turn dark and brown, that is when they can be stunned again. - Overload Captains teleport a TON. Watch its red fade effect for the direction it is going. If you can't see the dude, either he went behind an obstacle, or you are about to get cooked from behind. Deal with them asap when safe. - Overload Scorn Chieftains will CONSTANTLY spawn those little elemental trinkets. These are Solar (burn you), Arc (suck you), and Void (protect them and nearby enemies). Imo, these cats are TOP priority in higher content since they can protect entire rooms. Even if you destroy a void one, he may spawn another as soon as you destroyed it. There may be multiple trinkets from one Champion at any given time. - Barrier Colossus and Vex Hobgoblins do big damage while using their Solar weapons (minigun and sniper, respectively). Bait their attacks, and then stun from another angle. On higher difficulty, charging at these guys head-on is practically suicide. - Overload effects are not just bound to bullets on a weapon. Ex. An Overload Champion that is poisoned with Overload Osteo Striga will constantly have Overload rounds on them (the poison can stun them twice even). Experiment with weapons effects to see what can work for you. EDIT: - Certain Overload and Unstoppable Champions can be jumped over without taking damage at all (ex. Overload Minotaur, Unstoppable Incendior, Unstoppable Taken Phalanx). If you are getting charged at by one of these guys, charge back at them and jump over them. If done properly, their melee or boop attack will completely miss you. This maneuver takes practice and is high risk, mid reward. Good for being caught in bad situations. If you know any other tips, lmk, I know I'm forgetting some good ones. (Check replies)

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For more mid tierish content the cryostesia 77k is fun to use as a way to counter both barrier and unstoppable champs with the piercing sidearms artifact mod this season and it being able to freeze unstops

Another tip! Tractor Cannon applies the suppression debuff making it effective at stunning Overload Champions!! (-:

For vets, this is Comfy FIreside Chat - for newer players, this is vital; Datto stays winning

fantastic work with this datto. I appreciate that you added clips of you slowly stunning champs, it really helps drive the points you're making home. I knew all this already, but I'm sure there are tons of people that need this video.

Haven't seen enough people mention this - this season only, if you use the added scorch artifact mod for firebolt grenades, instead of throwing the firebolt on the ground you should throw it so it IMPACTS the target, because the impact will also apply scorch in addition to the regular lock-on from the nade, which will cause a GUARANTEED ignition, so long as the grenade hits the target directly. Very good for unstops obviously but also for causing as many ignitions as you like.

This is good stuff, Datto! Thank you. Along with your gameplay breakdown/coaching videos, this is a great resource for folks who are just dipping their toes into higher-level content.

Note about Shatter/Ignitions vs. Unstoppables: You don't need to ignite/shatter them directly, just deal that damage type. So if you ignite a target next to the champ, the champ will still stun.

Great video! Was going to make one of these myself, but you explained everything better and more succinctly than I ever could have! Good job GOAT!

Coming back to D2 after almost a year. I DESPERATELY needed this type of detailed guide, especially regarding to subclass effects to stun champs. Thanks daddy Datto

No matter how long I have played a game, I still will always learn something from a 101 video like this. Thanks.

Excellent guide for my new light friends, thanks again Datto!

Something to note about jolt & overloads it that it’s not the application of jolt that stuns the champion, just taking jolt damage whilst being jolted. So you can jolt an overload and so long as you keep damaging it, it’ll remain overloaded until the jolt debuff ends, which can sometimes be long enough to stun the champion twice from the same jolt procc.

Keep up the good work Datto!

Good stuff Datto… I learned some tips and tricks here. Gracias amigo!

These videos really help, thank you datto.

Always down to watch one of your videos to gain some small bit of insight I may have missed or overlooked. Coming back to the game and seeing abilities be able to stun champions was fantastic.

Great video, Datto! Thank you!

THANK YOU DATTO!!! This helps out ALOT!!!❤❤

Man there's a fair amount of nuance I wasn't aware of. I was curios about those red numbers and hadn't quite pieced it together as I tend to get tunnelvision ingame. Also that overload bit was extremely helpful and really brings light as to why freeze was so bad for them and why they went with slow stalling them. Also makes sense why thunderlord got overload rounds. To constantly apply it. It definitely seems like a big one eighty over the other two where you want to stop to conserve ammo. But with overload you want to keep dumping. This was extremely helpful and helps shed light on a number of things I hadn't quite pieced together but "felt" when I played if that makes sense.

datto i don’t think you understand how much this helps my friends who have just recently gotten back into the game

Honestly this was the most useful thing I've seen in a while. The 'stun and burst strategy' works ok in lower-end content so I never realized there was so much nuance in dealing with champions. This is definitely going to change how I play.

Good lookin out man i have needed a guide on how all this works since thw changes.

Freezing a champ also makes them immediately restunnable by bypassing the recovering phase which can be useful when an unstop is charging you but you can't stun them

Gread vid as usual! One small consideration that I didn't see mentioned: Barrier and Overload health regen scales with activity difficulty. In something like a Hero nightfall or a legend lost sector, it takes them several seconds to recover from ~33% health to full, but in a GM it takes them *maybe* 1.5 seconds. Not a huge issue if you're handling them correctly (i.e. clear out trash mobs, *then* tackle the champ), but just be aware that you need to be much more diligent with them in higher-level content.

That unstop and overload scout rifle point you made is something I didn't know about! I'll have to get my crafted one out of the vault now!

Love these videos Datto! You should make more coach videos, they've helped a lot.

Amazing video!!! Thank you for this!

I didnt know people needed a guide, but love the content and the bettering of the community lol

You can also manipulate how champions move! Whenever an Overload is charging toward you, if you stand on ground that they cannot walk on, they'll slowly walk back toward their original spawn point. This is useful for isolating them, like in Perdition with its 2nd Overload. I'm not sure if it's applicable to Unstops though.

As a Side note: Two Tailed Fox also has "Built-in" overload, the 2nd rocket supresses and the 3rd rocket (from the catalyst) jolts.

I'm just getting back into Destiny 2 and this helped alot. Before I was just shooting randomly killing things until I finally tried Legend lost sector and got eviscerated. I didnt even know that this was so worth it. Thank you for the video and explaining it so well

He has spoken. Everything explained, well structured and not getting too deep into some very specific unimportant examples. This game changes so fast and so much since Beyond Light. Videos like this are so needed if you want to do GM after just one or two seasons break from the game.

Running Voltshot for crowd control is handy when you've got champions mixed in because all the arc jumping around will keep them stunned while you clean up the mobs. That way you can focus on the champion without being shot up by harpies or whatever. I was doing some weekly mission farming and it was great for clearing mobs and keeping the champions stumbling.

Thanks for the video - really learned a lot as I was almost exclusively using strand first. Now I understand better what other subclasses and builds I can use

Jolt and Blind stunning overloads and unstoppables is part of why I love arc hunter so much - the dodge/punch combo applies jolt, and punching a jolted target blinds them.

Amazing video. Keep up the great work!

The new stasis bow, 'Verglas Curve' is an outlier, at least whilst overload bow is around, as you can also stun unstoppable champions by freezing and then shattering them. It makes for a fantastic all-round weapon in GMs.

there are several finisher bonuses you can incorporate into enhancing your performance as well which include healing, over shields, and cooldown reduction for skills. Void subclasses have a aspect that can make you go invisible for any class, and strand has a finisher to spawn threadlings.

“But why bother when my teammates can just kill them” - All of LFG

I played D1 and D2 for 6 years then stopped in 2020. recently came back and was VERY confused by the champions. Appreciate the video.

I knew all this but watched it for fun. Very good breakdown. All new players should watch

Two Tailed Fox is also useful for champions, mostly barrier and overload champions. Since you can apply volatile rounds to it and it has both suppression and jolt intrinsically if you have the catalyst

I have played since the game went f2p and i still found a lot of this info useful. I was wondering why radiant wasn't working but it turns out it is because i usually have an smg with overload equipped. Good video, appreciate it

Strand suspend can also be very useful for managing Overload Captains as it will hold them in place. If you are having a hard time hitting them because of how often they teleport, this can be a useful tool

Bro thank you so much needed this info displayed mannn I e been so confused

Love the coach Dattp vids! Good content even for a vet

Wow I'm conquerer x8 and I was just thinking about how do you stun Champs, this guide will come in clutch for GMs this season!

I’m happy that this is a video because I had a hard time figuring it out myself although I eventually did

Damn. I didn't realize how much I needed this going into my 9th year of Destiny.

That overload section was what i needed.

I'm pretty confident in myself now, but I just like listening to your thoughts 👍

FINALLY I understand overload, I've known about the Active, Stunned, and Recovery phase but I had no idea you had to hit it with overload in its recovery phase as well

Important to note that hunter tether will apply suppression which will stun overload champions

Thank you so. much for these types of videos they are very helpful to both new players and as a refresh for vets. Can you do a video on how to solo dungeons , not a dungeon guide, but more of how to survive when you're getting slapped from every direction.

Much appreciated, was planning on getting back into the game.

even as someone who has played over 1500 hours, this still had some pretty useful info and it was laid out in a way that was super useful. if introduce any new people to the game ill definitely show them this video

i needed to see this video thank you

Very much enjoying the datto coaching arc

Awesome , thx for this!

It's fun to watch these even knowing how to demolish any and every champ

Le monarque can also stun multiple overloads at once with the poison spread effect. I found this very useful in particular master lost sectors where overload taken hobgoblins had a tendency to bunch up in pairs

Saved! Thank you !! 🙏🙏

I just enjoy watching Datto’s videos, even if I already know what to do. 😄

Most useful video I’ve seen in a year

Thanks! This really helped. Haven’t played destiny in a few years and I was wondering how to counter there’s dudes

I'm glad I watched this refresher. Seeing the other Overload options was great because SMG/Auto overload is just awful at higher difficulty. Getting overload rounds in during recovery(not stunable yet) to prevent the healing is pretty important as it can begin healing faster than the recover ends and the timing of overload on SMG/Autos sucks solo. (Also particularly overload minotaurs basically rushing you like a regenerating unstoppable is a nightmare)

To add to the overload champ health regen part (and their ability spam and increased damage), I think of it as a separate invisible on/off light switch. Anti-overload anything will turn that switch to off for ~3 seconds. It can be, and should be, reapplied repeatedly, especially during the normal “recovery” period. The stun noise and text chat stun is mainly the “stop them from attacking” portion, you need to mentally keep track of the health regen light switch so you can apply anti-overload to keep it from turning back on. Tractor Cannon can also apply suppress to stun overloads, but is less used as it’s pretty ammo inefficient and low damage compared to other heavy weapons, even with the damage debuff.

No matter how many hours i put into destiny i will always watch your videos 🙌🏼

For the thing about swords. I have used the zephyr sword with cold steel and it has really helped me both with overloads and Unstoppables due to the slow, freeze, and shatter.

I’ve got 5000+ hours on this game and D1 and I still watched this video. Love your content Daddo

I’ve been having a lot of success using osteo striga with the overload smg perk since the poison counts towards resetting the overload timer and you can usually get a large mag from explosions so that you can do lots of damage up front and then run away to get any more stubs that you need when you run out of ammo

A fun interaction (although not something to rely on outside of seasonal content) is that hunter's gunpower gamble aspect technically counts as ignition damage, which means it's capable of stunning unstoppable champs.

*Collective Obligation* is great for Overload/Barrier on demand since you can store them and choose to fire them whenever. Storing Suppress and Volatile lets you deal with multiple champs in a room

As someone who's just started to poke their head into content with chmpions this video is very useful thank you

Depending on artifact most selection, you can go full anti-champ (ex. AP Pulse, O/L SMG/Auto, and Leviathan's Breath [accurate as of season 20]). Mods, fragments, and aspects can supplement damage for ad-clear or DPS. Granted, may be noob level, but it has worked for me for 2 seasons (Seraph and Defiance).

The poison effect from Osteo Striga also works well to keep the health regen for Overloads at bay.

As someone who has played Destiny since D1 Beta way back in the day, through D2's launch I still watch these. Also it's amazing how much stuff in the game, Bungie either A: Doesn't tell you how to do something or B: Goes into very little detail about how to do it beyond, Barrier Champions need this, Unstoppables need that but then go into no other details beyond that when really they probably should.

I routinely farm GM’s. Master raids. Low man’s. Day 1’s. I still watch datto explain the most basic stuff I can’t help it I have to watch and I can’t explain why.

Two tail fox will also stun overload with supersession on the good rocket and jolt on the their rocket thanks to the catalyst, it can also cause ignitions with a bit of help

As someone who is still pretty new, even though I’ve hit 1810, I really appreciate this. I know I’ve done a bunch of stunning before, just didn’t know how I was doing it. I’d really appreciate an up to date armor guide. I still have absolutely no idea how armor works in this game.

Extremely helpful 🤝

I think these videos are great because it covers things you’d think people would *intrinsically* know, but that’s not the case for a good chunk of people.

Veteran here. Still learnt something, though. Specifically, the thing about voltshot procing on weapons with other champion stun mods. Great vid. Would still have watched even if I had a doctrate in champion stunning. We need more vids like these that explain the intricacies Bungie does not.

Wow this is the video i needed i've only been playing the game for a month and whilst i can deal with the unstoppable (hung jury sr4) and overload champions (osteo striga) it's the barrier champions that are my kryptonite i think i'm gonna after run through the lightfall campaign to get my hands on the strand subclass though

You can prime the overload shot before peaking the overload champion by shooting your weapon atvthe floor or wall for the initial stun.

1 thing to note is all these anti champion things have 2 distinct effects. 1 is the ability to stun champions. Hitting an active overload or unstoppable champion with the effect makes them stunned, and depending on the difficulty of the content they stay stunned, then go into the recovery phase, then return to normal where they can be stunned again. The second effect is what the mods actually list, and these work against everything. Overload stops health Regen, ability regen, and decreases the enemies outgoing damage. Overload champions have health Regen, really fast ability regen, and deal more damage. Overload effects remove all 3 of these buffs for ~3 seconds. That's why you have to continually reapply overload, these effects are separate from the actual stun. It also allows these effects to be used against other enemies. Overloading a knight will prevent it from using a shield, overloading an ogre will prevent it from regenerating health when it enrages. Overloading any enemy will make them deal less damage. Unstoppable rounds are also like this. They stagger unshielded enemies. This lets them momentarily stop even boss tier enemies. Unstoppable champions happen to have damage resistance when they aren't staggered, which lines up with its stun, but it's still worth mentioning that it works outside of champions. Anti-Barrier effects are also like this. They can go through most non-elemental shields in the game. I just thought it was important to point out that these effects do a thing AND also stun champions.

Riptide with Chill clip is my one stop shop for all my champion needs. And it saves up an exotic slot for dps

There is one thing I can add to this video, specifically the chill clip section. If you are radiant and you shoot a chill clip shot at an overload champion, the shot will stop their health regeneration, however, it will NOT stop the champion from chasing you and/or attacking you. The only attack I've found it stopping is the retaliation shots that overload taken hobgoblins shoot.

This is very helpful, pls share this to any new players

Great informative vid! Hoping for new enemies like hive guardians or tormenters further in the future from D2.

Two tailed fox is great for overloads because the void rocket comes first, meaning if you have catalyst, the solar and arc rockets do full damage while they're stunned and the reload is long enough that you'll reapply suppression as they recover, so if you have an smg or auto, shoot the overloads with two shots from two tailed, reload, then switch to SMG or auto to restun and damage (and likely kill at this point) the overload

One more thing I don't think was mentioned. In different level activities the champs recovery phases has different times. For barrier/overloads their health will Regen at different speeds.

FYI: tractor canon can suppress and debuff at the same time. Makes short work of overloads on particular bonk builds 😊😊😊

Despite having played for a long time since champions were added, Ive only recently found time to get into high end content thats difficult enough champions actually matter. The specifics that overloads need to keep being hit after recovering never really crossed my mind because they usually get melted by Parasite and a finisher. That mindset though doesnt really work in master lost sectors though so knowing the more minor details of champs has been very insightful!

I think the freeze explanation vs barriers is underselling it, it works similarly to suspend as long as you have the burst damage to back it up. A frozen champion can't put up their barrier, and you can then do burst damage which will include the Shatter to kill them. This makes riptide the best antichampion weapon in the game as it handles all 3 types

i just got back into destiny AGAIN. so far im loving it because I'm on PC and load time is no longer a issue for me. but I have a lot of hours in both destiny. i never understood why I was doing sooo much less damage at certain times. now I know.

As a quick addendum, you can actually suspend Barrier champions if their barrier is up, if you shove the suspend source inside the barrier. IE, you can run up to a Barrier champion with its barrier up, and pop your Drengr's Lash barricade and suspend them.